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Mon May-12-08 11:02 PM
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| 57. Webb's a good guy, but he needs to hold that Senate seat for at least one term |
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He's a little too far to the Right for me and a few million others. He was also a signatory to a PNAC support letter back before things started going all WORNG with the Invasion and Occupation of Iraq, so I have the same issues with him that I have with HC. Not something that is irrepairable, mind you, but these folks just need to speak up about their fatal errors in judgement, that is, unless they don't feel that way, in which case I guess this IS an ir-repairable problem for me on both counts (Webb and HC).
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| -Jim Webb is the best VP candidate? So no problems with his anti-women writings? |
sfam |
May-12-08 09:53 PM |
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I think he'd be a disastrous VP choice |
bicentennial_baby |
May-12-08 09:55 PM |
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Needs to be either Richardson, Strickland, Rendell, Ritter, or Clinton |
Unsane |
May-12-08 11:51 PM |
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I think Clark provides everything Webb does, and more |
AchtungToddler |
May-12-08 09:56 PM |
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Does Clark bring a state even more into play like Webb does in VA? |
hnmnf |
May-12-08 09:57 PM |
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Webb might be more of a boost in VA, but they both help in that state |
AchtungToddler |
May-12-08 09:59 PM |
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I like the boost in VA thing, but Webb will hurt us in other places...not sure Clark... |
sfam |
May-12-08 10:02 PM |
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I think Webb helps just as much as Clark does in southern states |
hnmnf |
May-12-08 10:03 PM |
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he's apologized. |
woolldog |
May-12-08 09:56 PM |
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Of course he doesn't hate women. That's not my point. This is something the Repubs can exploit... |
sfam |
May-12-08 09:58 PM |
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watch this (defending himself on CNN): |
woolldog |
May-12-08 10:03 PM |
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EXACTLY. Do we really want our VP spending his time telling the MSM why he doesn't hate women? |
sfam |
May-12-08 10:15 PM |
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It was from 1979. I really don't think they can make an issue of it. |
Shakespeare |
May-12-08 10:30 PM |
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Wanna bet? You really don't see McCain picking a woman and then... |
sfam |
May-12-08 10:34 PM |
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No, I really don't. |
Shakespeare |
May-12-08 10:36 PM |
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Fair enough. If Webb gets selected, I'll hope your crystal ball is better than mine...nt |
sfam |
May-12-08 10:44 PM |
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Um...wow....just, wow.... |
bicentennial_baby |
May-12-08 09:58 PM |
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My 37 wives prove I love women too. |
Forkboy |
May-12-08 11:51 PM |
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He didnt have a women's issue in VA |
hnmnf |
May-12-08 09:56 PM |
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Bullshit. Not true. Not true at all. |
sfam |
May-12-08 09:57 PM |
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Webb did well among women in VA |
hnmnf |
May-12-08 09:59 PM |
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Webb barely won by less than half of 1%...This was the ONLY attack that the Repubs ran.. |
sfam |
May-12-08 10:01 PM |
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Webb won 55 percent of the women's vote in 2006. Kerry for example won only 51% |
hnmnf |
May-12-08 10:06 PM |
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This was more due to the Maccaca comments...again, these ads ran non-stop...BUT AGAIN... |
sfam |
May-12-08 10:11 PM |
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Ouch. |
anonymous171 |
May-12-08 09:56 PM |
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That is why I don't want him. |
PM7nj |
May-12-08 09:58 PM |
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Exactly. Someone like Sebelius would ensure a huge women's vote even among moderate repubs nt |
sfam |
May-12-08 09:59 PM |
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I think if we don't have a woman on the ticket McCain will... |
PM7nj |
May-12-08 10:05 PM |
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Moderate Republicans won't vote for a woman and a |
mac2 |
May-12-08 10:53 PM |
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So how did she get so popular in a blood red state again? Just wondering...nt |
sfam |
May-12-08 10:54 PM |
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Maybe the Republican was a worse choice? |
mac2 |
May-12-08 11:00 PM |
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She's Pro-Choice, in trouble with the bishop for it, not supposed to go to Communion. |
patrice |
May-12-08 11:57 PM |
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I'd like for him to keep that senate seat. I wonder if it would go |
Ilsa |
May-12-08 10:01 PM |
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YES...That is my fear too. It took a crappy candidate saying Maccaca... |
sfam |
May-12-08 10:06 PM |
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Military Women Endorse Webb |
sandnsea |
May-12-08 10:02 PM |
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I live in the DC area...I experienced the campaign daily...yes Webb dealt with this issue... |
sfam |
May-12-08 10:04 PM |
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Everybody will have to deal with something |
sandnsea |
May-12-08 10:12 PM |
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That wasn't the case in the Senate race. It was his 80s writings that caused issues...and.. |
sfam |
May-12-08 10:13 PM |
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The man who opened the way for women's rights in the Navy? |
sandnsea |
May-12-08 10:20 PM |
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You miss my point. I hold NOTHING against Webb for this...but this will be an issue the Repubs... |
sfam |
May-12-08 10:24 PM |
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sandnsea, what do you think about Webb as VP? n/t |
woolldog |
May-12-08 10:07 PM |
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Other than the penis stuff in his book |
sandnsea |
May-12-08 10:10 PM |
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Honestly, the attacks on his fiction writings fell on deaf ears...those went nowhere...but.. |
sfam |
May-12-08 10:12 PM |
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Compare Virginia to WV, KY, PA, OH |
sandnsea |
May-12-08 10:16 PM |
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His answer was that these things were based on actual events he saw, many times... |
sfam |
May-12-08 10:19 PM |
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I didn't know about this stuff |
CaptJasHook |
May-12-08 10:25 PM |
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He rethought it in the 80's |
sandnsea |
May-12-08 10:27 PM |
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He really has rethought his position, and is doing a great job in the Senate...Let's leave him there |
sfam |
May-12-08 10:27 PM |
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He's also pretty tight with the military and that worries me. |
dailykoff |
May-12-08 10:29 PM |
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Ferraro sucked as a candidate, so did Mondale...this is not a good reason to stay away from women... |
sfam |
May-12-08 10:33 PM |
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The fact that they picked Ferraro before investigating her |
mac2 |
May-12-08 10:36 PM |
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I think they were both good candidates, |
dailykoff |
May-13-08 12:01 AM |
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Women in the military are being rapped and abused. |
mac2 |
May-12-08 10:33 PM |
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I just would rather our VP augment Obama's strengths instead of sending us down a rathole... |
sfam |
May-12-08 10:35 PM |
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I don't like counting VPs before the primary is over. |
mac2 |
May-12-08 10:39 PM |
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I can't think of one instance in history when a VP candidate caused the ticket to lose. |
totodeinhere |
May-12-08 10:41 PM |
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Fair point. Quale did not do Bush any favors...nt |
sfam |
May-12-08 10:43 PM |
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People didn't know much about Quale. |
mac2 |
May-12-08 10:51 PM |
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Here's one. |
mac2 |
May-12-08 10:50 PM |
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No, Lieberman didn't cost Gore the election. Gore won and the Repukes stole it from him. |
totodeinhere |
May-12-08 10:55 PM |
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There is no reason why it had to be so close. |
mac2 |
May-12-08 11:04 PM |
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That's not the point. Lieberman may not have been popular with all Dems, but... |
totodeinhere |
May-13-08 07:47 AM |
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I'll say it again. |
mac2 |
May-13-08 08:10 PM |
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I'll say it again. |
totodeinhere |
May-14-08 10:34 AM |
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Delete |
mac2 |
May-13-08 08:11 PM |
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Jim Webb, bad choice for Obama |
rove karl rove |
May-12-08 10:44 PM |
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Webb's a good guy, but he needs to hold that Senate seat for at least one term |
patrice |
May-12-08 11:02 PM |
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Good to know. |
mac2 |
May-12-08 11:29 PM |
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Nothing secret about PNAC. He didn't sign their original plan for Iraq in '97 |
patrice |
May-12-08 11:38 PM |
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That rules him out ENTIRELY. |
dailykoff |
May-12-08 11:40 PM |
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Those secret groups have plans that we don't agree with. |
mac2 |
May-12-08 11:41 PM |
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God help us another PNAC mole. |
dailykoff |
May-12-08 11:38 PM |
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A patriot questions his government leaders. |
mac2 |
May-12-08 11:43 PM |
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I'm not being sarcastic. |
dailykoff |
May-12-08 11:46 PM |
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Wow. This is trash that was spewed on Free Republic in 2006 |
ButterflyBlood |
May-12-08 11:40 PM |
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Google it and see it is not a Republican lie. |
mac2 |
May-12-08 11:41 PM |
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Try rereading the OP. This is NOT about whether Webb believes this crap. This is about... |
sfam |
May-12-08 11:43 PM |
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These secret elite organizations exist. |
mac2 |
May-12-08 11:46 PM |
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Just to be clear, my OP has nothing to do with secret elite organizations...I was discussing... |
sfam |
May-12-08 11:48 PM |
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I haven't paid much attention to the Obama/Vp threads lately |
muryan |
May-13-08 12:03 AM |
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I love Webb as a Senator, but he is crazy |
theboss |
May-13-08 12:05 AM |
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That is a good point. I also think we need his Senate seat. |
beachmom |
May-14-08 10:38 AM |
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sexism is ok, racism is not - dont you love the double standard? |
Texas Hill Country |
May-14-08 10:40 AM |
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