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Mon May-12-08 06:28 PM
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A lot of the country is still against interracial marriage.
"Does Hillary Clinton have a point "
No. Saying racism is an issue is fine.
Arguing that as a reason not to support Obama is racist.
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| -Is it possible racism WILL keep Obama out of the White House? |
shomino |
May-12-08 06:25 PM |
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I think not... |
gabby garcia |
May-12-08 06:26 PM |
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Is is completely disengenuous coming from someone with her unfavorables |
rosebud57 |
May-12-08 06:27 PM |
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Even if it is... |
shomino |
May-12-08 06:28 PM |
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yes when the candidate is as charismatic as Obama is |
rosebud57 |
May-12-08 08:32 PM |
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how do you suppose she got those "unfavorables?" |
Evergreen Emerald |
May-12-08 06:31 PM |
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Lots of ways many of which have to do with Clenis, meaning of "is", dishonesty, negative |
rosebud57 |
May-12-08 07:23 PM |
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yes...just as I suspected. |
Evergreen Emerald |
May-12-08 07:45 PM |
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annoying people come in both genders, misogyny doesn't explain the errors her campaign made |
rosebud57 |
May-12-08 08:16 PM |
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Everyone made mistakes in the campaign..no one is perfect. |
Evergreen Emerald |
May-12-08 08:27 PM |
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Life is not fair, Everyone doesn't get to be prom king/queen, reality bites, it is what it is |
rosebud57 |
May-12-08 08:41 PM |
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There's a difference between a candidate that makes mistakes |
MadMaddie |
May-12-08 09:22 PM |
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Most people here are not misogynists |
OhioBlues |
May-13-08 04:54 AM |
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Probably |
galaxy21 |
May-12-08 06:27 PM |
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I Think You Post Is..... |
rsmith6621 |
May-12-08 06:28 PM |
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no |
Botany |
May-12-08 06:28 PM |
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Ummm....have you seen some of those pics of hillary voters? |
galaxy21 |
May-12-08 06:31 PM |
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hillary supporters are not |
beezlebum |
May-12-08 06:38 PM |
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It's possible. |
Bornaginhooligan |
May-12-08 06:28 PM |
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Damn. That was perfect. |
Solomon |
May-12-08 07:41 PM |
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Agreed. Excellent response. |
Barrymores Ghost |
May-12-08 08:04 PM |
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No, it is not possible. Americans will rise to the challenge of getting |
FrenchieCat |
May-12-08 06:29 PM |
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There are more of us (who abhor racism and racists) |
C_U_L8R |
May-12-08 06:29 PM |
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Once again I should make clear I support Obama |
shomino |
May-12-08 06:30 PM |
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No worries. There was never any doubt. |
C_U_L8R |
May-12-08 06:37 PM |
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Don't get it |
Number23 |
May-12-08 08:59 PM |
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Heh, thanks for the honest response. |
shomino |
May-12-08 09:08 PM |
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I think Obama can register enough young voters to cancel out the racists.... |
PoliticalAmazon |
May-12-08 06:30 PM |
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Are you saying that young voters are never racists? |
qijackie |
May-12-08 06:38 PM |
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How many are you "banking" on? |
FrenchieCat |
May-12-08 06:41 PM |
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What does "banking on" mean? Some sort of feeble insult ? |
qijackie |
May-12-08 06:47 PM |
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Many of them are Republicans...and they are the same ones that |
FrenchieCat |
May-12-08 06:58 PM |
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No, I don't get it. |
qijackie |
May-12-08 07:02 PM |
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Are you from West Virginia? |
FrenchieCat |
May-12-08 07:06 PM |
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How terribly amusing. |
qijackie |
May-12-08 07:15 PM |
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New poll out today.....Obama 51, McCain 44 vs. Clinton 49, McCain 46. Primary #'s O53 v. C. 41 |
FrenchieCat |
May-12-08 07:17 PM |
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Thanks for the info. Personally, I want a Democrat elected - I want it very badly... |
qijackie |
May-12-08 07:36 PM |
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I reject your "lesser of two evils" rationalization. |
Barrymores Ghost |
May-12-08 10:34 PM |
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Revolution. |
qijackie |
May-13-08 09:03 PM |
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Speak for yourself Rush. |
IsItJustMe |
May-12-08 07:03 PM |
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I believe young people are less likely to be racist. Certainly, there .... |
PoliticalAmazon |
May-12-08 06:54 PM |
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Yes and no. I agree that it seems the flagrant racism has |
qijackie |
May-12-08 07:01 PM |
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You're right. And bad economic times seems to bring out the worst of it. n/t |
PoliticalAmazon |
May-12-08 07:05 PM |
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No kidding. Toss a little "survival" stress into the mix and all hell tends to break loose. |
qijackie |
May-12-08 07:10 PM |
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It could be one among multiple causes if Obama gets the nomination and loses the election |
slackmaster |
May-12-08 06:32 PM |
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No. Not possible |
panader0 |
May-12-08 06:33 PM |
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I think there are more of us who are not racist, than those that are. nt |
gateley |
May-12-08 06:33 PM |
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I would argue that GWDumbshit was NEVER elected, let alone re-elected |
grannylib |
May-12-08 06:34 PM |
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But it could be used as a talking point after election stealing, like guns & gays in 04 |
Overseas |
May-12-08 06:53 PM |
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Gotcha, and that's what scares me most, a squeaker that |
grannylib |
May-13-08 06:41 PM |
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no. |
beezlebum |
May-12-08 06:34 PM |
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Obama's mother was white. His father was black |
wurzel |
May-12-08 06:34 PM |
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Some black people don't like mixed race blacks... ditto for white people |
Juniperx |
May-12-08 07:36 PM |
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Possibly |
laptoprepairguy |
May-12-08 06:34 PM |
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no |
enid602 |
May-12-08 06:37 PM |
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... |
beezlebum |
May-12-08 06:39 PM |
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If Obama wins against McCain then no |
rock |
May-12-08 06:42 PM |
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Aren't we all racist to some degree? |
shomino |
May-12-08 06:44 PM |
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i'm not sure if you're sincerely attempting to start an honest dialogue |
beezlebum |
May-12-08 06:51 PM |
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Note that I specified : "To some degree". |
shomino |
May-12-08 08:24 PM |
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I think we all are to some degree. There are some that were raised without the taint of racism. |
IsItJustMe |
May-12-08 07:15 PM |
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Why don't you answer your own question, for yourself? |
Barrymores Ghost |
May-12-08 08:09 PM |
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OK let me rephrase: Isn't everyone racist to some degree? |
shomino |
May-12-08 08:22 PM |
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We probably all |
graycem |
May-12-08 08:41 PM |
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I don't think one has to claim"perfection" to say that racism plays no part in one's life. |
Barrymores Ghost |
May-12-08 10:06 PM |
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Nope the younger generation will not let it happen |
grantcart |
May-12-08 06:46 PM |
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Yes, it is - BUT I think |
elfin |
May-12-08 06:48 PM |
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hilary has no points ..hilary has only |
zidzi |
May-12-08 06:50 PM |
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Well, to be honest, I'm afraid to answer with the truth. |
Jamastiene |
May-12-08 06:51 PM |
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I like you. You made me laugh and you are also right - an irristable combo!! |
qijackie |
May-12-08 06:54 PM |
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Of course it's possible. It'll be there until the end. |
Carrieyazel |
May-12-08 06:58 PM |
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It's always possible. Won't know til we try though! :) |
BlooInBloo |
May-12-08 06:59 PM |
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I had no idea there were so many... |
stillcool47 |
May-12-08 07:05 PM |
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If Obama loses due to race, our country should be shamed by the rest of the world. |
MessiahRp |
May-12-08 07:06 PM |
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Not in most states, but if that were true, she wouldn't stand a frickn' chance either /nt |
still_one |
May-12-08 07:08 PM |
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Yes, that's always been possible, |
LWolf |
May-12-08 07:09 PM |
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Sure anything is possible, after all stupidity put W in the whitehouse. |
canadian_is_cold |
May-12-08 07:09 PM |
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In 50 years, 6 blacks have run for the Presidency. All lost. 6 women have also run. All lost. |
Xithras |
May-12-08 07:16 PM |
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Yes. It is possible. But I hope not probable. |
kwenu |
May-12-08 07:28 PM |
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If they can call it something else to the satisfaction |
mmonk |
May-12-08 07:33 PM |
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no chance but fear of white backlash is being marketed by Clinton for the Primary Race |
crankychatter |
May-12-08 07:35 PM |
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absolutely but sexism could have kept Hillary out |
dmordue |
May-12-08 07:38 PM |
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Why is sexism never an issue regarding electability? |
dansolo |
May-12-08 07:38 PM |
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Its a big issue. Likely neither can win the Big One. |
qijackie |
May-12-08 07:48 PM |
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Okay, I'll bite. You think McCain will win -- why? |
Barrymores Ghost |
May-12-08 07:50 PM |
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Sorry - wasn't fishing. But I do tend to think McCain will win. |
qijackie |
May-12-08 08:05 PM |
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I think it's wasted energy to speculate on why you think either of them "can't win." |
Barrymores Ghost |
May-12-08 08:14 PM |
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Your opinion is only that. And mine is mine. |
qijackie |
May-12-08 08:19 PM |
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Oh, sexism is DEFINITELY a big issue. |
shomino |
May-12-08 09:22 PM |
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Anything is possible |
BrentTaylor |
May-12-08 07:39 PM |
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Your concern is noted n/t |
IWantAnyDem |
May-12-08 07:40 PM |
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Gee, nobody's ever thought to ask that question. |
Barrymores Ghost |
May-12-08 07:47 PM |
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Polls say NO |
kenny blankenship |
May-12-08 07:52 PM |
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I dunno. Is it possible the inevitability of Obama's nomination will blow open the floodgates... |
Barrymores Ghost |
May-12-08 07:56 PM |
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And also a torrent.. |
shomino |
May-12-08 09:03 PM |
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Looks like a nerve was touched. n/t |
Barrymores Ghost |
May-12-08 09:56 PM |
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Ever heard of the expression "ad-hominem"? |
shomino |
May-12-08 10:07 PM |
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Well, as an Obama delegate, financial supporter and a geez... |
Barrymores Ghost |
May-12-08 10:30 PM |
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Firstly, I never said anyone was "wasting their time" supporting Obama. |
shomino |
May-12-08 10:51 PM |
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Exactly. Bad things have indeed happened. |
livingmadness |
May-13-08 03:41 AM |
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A delegate? How cool! |
livingmadness |
May-13-08 03:47 AM |
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No. it's the playing of the race card that will get him nominated |
unlawflcombatnt |
May-12-08 07:58 PM |
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It's not the stating of an opinion |
graycem |
May-12-08 08:59 PM |
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No. Go find the numbers of the AA vote that Kerry got, that Gore got, |
sfexpat2000 |
May-12-08 10:14 PM |
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Is it possible to be somewhat racist |
Life Long Dem |
May-12-08 08:24 PM |
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Hillary has made that closer to becoming a reality by encouraging racism |
Levgreee |
May-12-08 08:29 PM |
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Bullshit. |
qijackie |
May-12-08 08:36 PM |
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saying "as far as I know" in relation to a categorical fact, when there are race-based rumors |
Levgreee |
May-12-08 08:55 PM |
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Muslim is not a race |
Lilith Velkor |
May-12-08 09:46 PM |
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I'm sorry I didn't spell it out to you... if Obama was a white man, the Muslim rumor wouldn't |
Levgreee |
May-13-08 04:33 AM |
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Levgree, think about this. If Barack Obama's name was |
HopeLives |
May-13-08 06:21 AM |
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It is entirely possible but not as probable as people might think. |
MrSlayer |
May-12-08 08:34 PM |
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YES!!! |
TheDonkey |
May-12-08 08:58 PM |
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no. mccain is hopeless. this is THE perfect chance to make history, because the guy has no chance. |
goletian |
May-12-08 08:59 PM |
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you really just fell off the turnip truck, didn't you? mccain has at least as good a chance as Obama |
VotesForWomen |
May-12-08 09:53 PM |
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McCain may not even live until November. |
sfexpat2000 |
May-12-08 10:16 PM |
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why? you like him? no he has no chance. hes flip flopped on everything and the far right isnt happy |
goletian |
May-13-08 01:53 AM |
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Considering the Hillary and Bill have spent their lives fighting |
MadMaddie |
May-12-08 09:12 PM |
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After Bush's 8 years of horse-shit, no chance in hell for another repuke to occupy the WH. |
Imagevision |
May-12-08 09:25 PM |
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I hear a lot of people saying "theres no chance McCain will win"! |
shomino |
May-12-08 09:30 PM |
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The wise thing to do is to focus on what you CAN do |
livingmadness |
May-13-08 03:54 AM |
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I certainly hope not. But, it will be a real test . If he wins, it will |
Laura PackYourBags |
May-12-08 09:25 PM |
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possibly. it's also possible that over-zealous false accusations of racism from his campaign could |
VotesForWomen |
May-12-08 09:50 PM |
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LOL |
sfexpat2000 |
May-12-08 10:17 PM |
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Like over-zealous and false accusations of sexism and misogyny will keep Hillary from it? |
Barrymores Ghost |
May-13-08 10:26 AM |
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In my mind RACISIM is the only thing that COULD keep him out |
hollowdweller |
May-12-08 09:53 PM |
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That WAS AP Point of view and ANYONE paying attention! Over 91% Blacks voting for BO.. |
indimuse |
May-13-08 03:51 AM |
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Racism is the only way he might be kept out of the White House |
TexasObserver |
May-13-08 04:01 AM |
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It is possible that an asteroid will hit the earth and wipe us out before then |
n2doc |
May-13-08 04:07 AM |
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maybe . . . but it's much more likely that election fraud will do the trick . . . |
OneBlueSky |
May-13-08 04:38 AM |
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Suck it and see, I guess |
Prophet 451 |
May-13-08 05:14 AM |
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No more than Sexism or Ageism will keep McCain or Clinton out |
livingmadness |
May-13-08 05:58 AM |
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yes, we know people |
DemReadingDU |
May-13-08 06:03 AM |
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I'd like to find out for sure, please. |
rucky |
May-13-08 06:05 AM |
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I think a RW campaign of fear based on lies is far more likely to do the trick |
Marrah_G |
May-13-08 06:06 AM |
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I believe racism is by far the biggest hurdle for Obama to overcome |
Ian_rd |
May-13-08 06:34 AM |
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Things change. When I was a childhood no Afro Americans or Asian Americans |
Old Crusoe |
May-13-08 06:37 AM |
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This is how we get around that-- |
eridani |
May-13-08 06:42 AM |
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It's possible racism will keep BOTH out of the WH |
cici4691 |
May-13-08 06:43 AM |
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No More Or Less Possible Than Racism Will Be Used as a Tool to Put Him IN the White House |
Crisco |
May-13-08 10:39 AM |
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If it does, The Clintons will NOT EVER regain their good standing with the AA Community. |
ShortnFiery |
May-13-08 09:05 PM |
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