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Redbear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-08-08 11:23 AM
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6. Arguing that white voters are more likley to vote for her than Obama in the GE is a
legitimate argument.


It's one of the few arguments she has left.





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  -There is a difference between calling Hillary Clinton "racist".... shomino  May-08-08 11:19 AM   #0 
  - No, it called race-baiting. And she's good at it.  SoonerPride   May-08-08 11:20 AM   #1 
  - as far as I know  YDogg   May-08-08 11:21 AM   #3 
  - She may not be racist, but she is race-baiting..  Webster Green   May-08-08 11:21 AM   #2 
  - Nah, I wouldn't go that far.  shomino   May-08-08 11:24 AM   #8 
  - Well, you are certainly entitled to be wrong.  Webster Green   May-08-08 11:27 AM   #15 
     - Define race-baiting.  DemVet   May-08-08 11:31 AM   #23 
  - No driving WEDGES between Whites and "People of Color" is the epitome of discrimination - RACISM!  ShortnFiery   May-08-08 11:29 AM   #20 
  - hmm, according to Webster ...  frickaline   May-08-08 11:34 AM   #26 
     - She was "a Goldwater Girl" ... she's one of the most self-righteous people alive- including a racist  ShortnFiery   May-08-08 11:37 AM   #32 
        - that doesn't answer the question at hand  frickaline   May-08-08 11:40 AM   #33 
  - Exactly  democrattotheend   May-08-08 11:35 AM   #27 
  - The difference is only semantic.  Fridays Child   May-08-08 11:35 AM   #28 
  - If she's willing to objectify and exploit any ethnic group to achieve her goal...  Fridays Child   May-08-08 11:21 AM   #4 
  - Not a racist, an opportunist  Abacus   May-08-08 11:22 AM   #5 
  - And sometimes BOTH!  ShortnFiery   May-08-08 11:32 AM   #25 
  - Arguing that white voters are more likley to vote for her than Obama in the GE is a  Redbear   May-08-08 11:23 AM   #6 
  - It's a very un-Democratic argument.  Bicoastal   May-08-08 11:24 AM   #9 
  - True. It's not Democratic. It is realpolitik. (n/t)  Redbear   May-08-08 11:28 AM   #19 
  - It's an  tyne   May-08-08 11:25 AM   #10 
  - Are they more likely, though? Most of the GE polls I've seen have shown Obama doing better overall.  nomorenomore08   May-08-08 11:27 AM   #16 
  - Exactly... so everyone setting up the "Clinton isn't a racist" strawman  redqueen   May-08-08 11:24 AM   #7 
  - Would you agree...  shomino   May-08-08 11:25 AM   #11 
  - I would.  Blue_Roses   May-08-08 11:27 AM   #17 
  - Of course. Just like you don't have to be religious to exploit people who are religious.  redqueen   May-08-08 11:35 AM   #29 
  - oh, they understand..  Blue_Roses   May-08-08 11:26 AM   #12 
     - "It's just politics."  redqueen   May-08-08 11:36 AM   #31 
        - too true redqueen  shomino   May-08-08 11:44 AM   #34 
  - If you embrace and use institutional racist practices, you are a racist.  Bread and Circus   May-08-08 11:26 AM   #13 
  - Don't worry  ampad   May-08-08 11:26 AM   #14 
  - I don't think the Clintons are racist. I believe they are bigot-panderers, however...  PoliticalAmazon   May-08-08 11:28 AM   #18 
  - wow-never thought of it like that...  Blue_Roses   May-08-08 11:30 AM   #21 
  - With a little Winky Dink Boss Hog "Southern Strategy" Rhetoric on the side  ShortnFiery   May-08-08 11:31 AM   #24 
  - You got it.  Hell Hath No Fury   May-08-08 11:35 AM   #30 
  - Yep, that I totally believe  frickaline   May-08-08 11:47 AM   #36 
  - i think she is slime  dempartisan23   May-08-08 11:30 AM   #22 
  - If you race bait, you're a racist. If you stoke the coals of racism, you're a racist.  TexasObserver   May-08-08 11:46 AM   #35 
 

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