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StevieM Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-09-08 02:14 AM
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128. And that attitide is why many of us Clinton backers are so angry
I don't agree with the version of history you have presented. Hillary has run for president because she loves the country. And if the race was truly rightfully over then Obama would have the needed delegates.

I don't think Obama supporters understand that the basis for reunification cannot be anything approaching the condescending terms that you will want. It can't be something like Obama saying: "We need to forgive Hillary and remember all the good she has done in the past. Yes, she has behaved badly, but we all make mistakes. If anybody deserves forgiveness and redemption it is Hillary Clinton. So let's let bygones be bygones and welcome her back. She once stood for the old order but today I truly believe that nobody is more committed to our revolution then Hillary Clinton."

This kind of condescending an degrading peace is no peace at all--it is a facillitator to a high five between David Axelrod and David Ploufe. Obama will have to chose between the high five and the Clinton supporters. Unfortunately, I think he is convinced he can have both.

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  -If you are a Clinton supporter who is unsure about supporting our nominee, Obama Katzenkavalier  May-08-08 08:59 AM   #0 
  - Please talk to us.  Katzenkavalier   May-08-08 09:06 AM   #1 
  - I want him to put Hillary on the ticket.  highplainsdem   May-08-08 09:07 AM   #2 
  - Obama/Clinton is a fair option in my opinion.  Katzenkavalier   May-08-08 09:16 AM   #4 
  - Obama/Clinton  woolldog   May-08-08 02:30 PM   #82 
  - I'd like to explain why I dont want Hillary on the ticket....  salbi   May-08-08 09:36 AM   #11 
  - And that attitide is why many of us Clinton backers are so angry  StevieM   May-09-08 02:14 AM   #128 
  - yup  Texas Hill Country   May-08-08 09:42 AM   #16 
  - He can't put Hillary on the ticket.  Sentinel Chicken   May-08-08 01:18 PM   #54 
     - I don't remember that because she never said it  MonkeyFunk   May-08-08 01:38 PM   #59 
        - I remember that she said this:  Goblinmonger   May-08-08 02:35 PM   #85 
           - Well you're wrong  MonkeyFunk   May-08-08 02:45 PM   #88 
              - No you're wrong.  Sentinel Chicken   May-08-08 02:56 PM   #93 
              - ???  Goblinmonger   May-08-08 02:56 PM   #94 
              - lol, well how do you interpret those word, eh?  Terran   May-08-08 04:11 PM   #103 
  - I'll vote for him  maddiejoan   May-08-08 09:13 AM   #3 
  - I guess I can just ask you to stay tuned- I'm sure Obama will  Katzenkavalier   May-08-08 09:17 AM   #5 
  - I wouldn't call myself "onboard"  maddiejoan   May-08-08 09:32 AM   #8 
  - Yep  MonkeyFunk   May-08-08 09:36 AM   #10 
  - But what can he do to make you feel part of this great movement?  Katzenkavalier   May-08-08 09:40 AM   #13 
  - He could become a Democrat  maddiejoan   May-08-08 09:45 AM   #20 
  - You sound angry and dissapointed, and I truly respect your feelings.  Katzenkavalier   May-08-08 09:58 AM   #23 
     - Not angry or disappointed  maddiejoan   May-08-08 10:02 AM   #24 
        - I can understand that too. But I believe the sense of optimism  Katzenkavalier   May-08-08 10:49 AM   #26 
           - All I can offer right now is my vote  maddiejoan   May-08-08 11:10 AM   #27 
  - You could start by not making us puke  BlackVelvet04   May-08-08 01:03 PM   #44 
  - Agree 100%  Harvey Korman   May-08-08 12:56 PM   #36 
  - I really hate to have to say this  MattBaggins   May-08-08 01:00 PM   #40 
  - How do you feel like an outsider?  tired   May-08-08 05:02 PM   #120 
  - Yes  bleuvixen   May-08-08 09:44 AM   #17 
  - He was looking for Hillary to  BlackVelvet04   May-08-08 01:17 PM   #53 
  - if we can't have a real progressive/anti imperialist, obama will have to do over mccain nt  msongs   May-08-08 09:18 AM   #6 
  - Let's unite.  Katzenkavalier   May-08-08 09:28 AM   #7 
  - I find these "let's unite" posts  BlackVelvet04   May-08-08 12:59 PM   #38 
  - See, this is what I can't understand  newmajority   May-08-08 12:52 PM   #32 
     - I've never seen anybody speak  BlackVelvet04   May-08-08 01:02 PM   #42 
     - That's odd  MonkeyFunk   May-08-08 02:48 PM   #91 
  - Said it better than I could have  Mudoria   May-08-08 02:30 PM   #81 
  - I will not vote for Obama.  Beacool   May-08-08 09:36 AM   #9 
  - Why? For a Democrat to say such thing, there has to be a powerful reason.  Katzenkavalier   May-08-08 09:41 AM   #14 
  - Obama the meanie took Hillary's rightful spot on the throne...isn't it obvious?  GarbagemanLB   May-08-08 09:45 AM   #19 
  - Look, the garbageman is spewing garbage....  BlackVelvet04   May-08-08 01:04 PM   #45 
  - Plenty of them  Beacool   May-08-08 12:56 PM   #35 
     - The Line?  SanchoPanza   May-08-08 02:31 PM   #83 
     - You need to ask yourself: who exactly was it that "made the Clintons appear to be racists?"  Eric Condon   May-09-08 01:50 AM   #126 
  - That is the same as voting for McCain  salbi   May-08-08 09:42 AM   #15 
  - No it's not the same as voting for McCain...  BlackVelvet04   May-08-08 01:07 PM   #48 
  - Of course you don't owe him your vote, but do you really want McCain to win??  salbi   May-08-08 01:56 PM   #66 
     - I don't want Obama to win any more than I want McCain to win...  BlackVelvet04   May-08-08 01:58 PM   #67 
        - You've argued yourself into a corner  Terran   May-08-08 04:13 PM   #105 
  - I have been a democrat for over 30 years  cjsmom   May-08-08 01:50 PM   #64 
     - Obama a Marxist? WOW  nadinbrzezinski   May-08-08 02:00 PM   #68 
     - That's the long-standing Fox News, Hannity, Rush meme  Emit   May-08-08 02:25 PM   #78 
        - BINGO  nadinbrzezinski   May-08-08 04:13 PM   #104 
     - So his skin color is a "problem?"  Eric Condon   May-09-08 01:53 AM   #127 
  - Sad to hear  bleuvixen   May-08-08 09:46 AM   #21 
  - Enjoy Scalia's claws in your uterus, then. n/t  yodermon   May-08-08 01:24 PM   #55 
  - Now that's a poweful picture!  Emit   May-08-08 02:26 PM   #79 
  - Yoicks!  A-Schwarzenegger   May-08-08 04:19 PM   #109 
  - I heap scorn on you. I ridicule you. I insinuate that you're a fanatic & a racist.  Bucky   May-08-08 02:32 PM   #84 
  - Funny, accurate, but funny!!!  Beacool   May-08-08 04:30 PM   #110 
  - I said the same thing about Kerry in 2004.  faithfulcitizen   May-08-08 02:38 PM   #86 
  - Bea  otohara   May-08-08 04:09 PM   #102 
     - Says you.............  Beacool   May-08-08 04:31 PM   #111 
  - Because I worked tirelessly for Deval Patrick  justinboston2008   May-08-08 09:38 AM   #12 
  - Wow... i guess I am not the only one. I posted much of the same below  Marrah_G   May-08-08 02:49 PM   #92 
  - Oh yeah, Axelrod, Obama's Karl Rove.  Beacool   May-08-08 04:34 PM   #112 
  - I've said from day one  BigDDem   May-08-08 09:45 AM   #18 
  - I'm trying to come around.  Hatchling   May-08-08 09:52 AM   #22 
  - I will vote for him  MonkeyFunk   May-08-08 10:18 AM   #25 
  - Oh come on and spare us  MattBaggins   May-08-08 01:06 PM   #47 
  - Deleted message  Name removed   May-08-08 01:41 PM   #61 
     - I suppose Hillary followers have their blinders  MattBaggins   May-08-08 02:24 PM   #77 
     - I've been neutral on both but no way is that true  Wetzelbill   May-09-08 12:08 AM   #123 
  - I have read your posts...  stillcool47   May-08-08 04:39 PM   #113 
  - What do I need from him? MORE EXPERIENCE!  DemVet   May-08-08 11:11 AM   #28 
  - Bingo, give the man a prize!!!!!!!  Beacool   May-08-08 12:44 PM   #29 
  - Thank you  my2cent   May-08-08 12:46 PM   #30 
  - So which President should he marry to get that "experience"?  newmajority   May-08-08 12:47 PM   #31 
  - lol. he could leave Michelle for Madeline Albright?  faithfulcitizen   May-08-08 02:45 PM   #89 
  - Obama can't get in a time machine and add 20 years to his life,  Vinca   May-08-08 12:56 PM   #34 
  - Lincoln had no experience, FDR had little more than Obama does  Hippo_Tron   May-08-08 04:04 PM   #100 
  - Bill Clinton had zero national experience. n/t  Terran   May-08-08 04:14 PM   #107 
  - I'm not unsure...  BlackVelvet04   May-08-08 12:55 PM   #33 
  - Why?  democrattotheend   May-08-08 12:58 PM   #37 
     - WHY? He took Princess Hillary's rightful spot on the throne! She DESERVED this nomination!  GarbagemanLB   May-08-08 01:00 PM   #39 
     - Your username is appropriate. n/t  BlackVelvet04   May-08-08 01:03 PM   #43 
        - Go ahead. Sit out November. Those pro-life groups will thank you when Roe v. Wade is overturned.  GarbagemanLB   May-08-08 01:04 PM   #46 
           - Not my problem...  BlackVelvet04   May-08-08 01:08 PM   #49 
              - That's the spirit!  Forkboy   May-08-08 01:12 PM   #51 
              - Oh, look, he used a rolling eyes emoticon...  BlackVelvet04   May-08-08 01:15 PM   #52 
                 - You deserve nothing less.  Forkboy   May-08-08 01:31 PM   #58 
                    - I fought for those rights that most of the younger women take  BlackVelvet04   May-08-08 01:41 PM   #60 
                       - It must mean responded to it.  Forkboy   May-08-08 01:44 PM   #63 
              - Wow. You sound like you'd fit more in with Freepers than here...  GarbagemanLB   May-08-08 01:26 PM   #57 
              - gosh...  BlackVelvet04   May-08-08 02:02 PM   #70 
              - Condi/Coulter '08!  Starbucks Anarchist   May-08-08 02:18 PM   #73 
              - Now that is a DREAM ticket!!!!!!!!  nadinbrzezinski   May-08-08 03:27 PM   #96 
              - I agree with you on that. Let them take over, that's what they want  Mags   May-08-08 02:46 PM   #90 
              - So because female Obama supporters made a perfectly legitimate decision to support him over Clinton,  Eric Condon   May-09-08 02:25 AM   #129 
     - I've tried to add something constructive many times...  BlackVelvet04   May-08-08 01:01 PM   #41 
        - Take some time away from here  nadinbrzezinski   May-08-08 01:25 PM   #56 
           - Sorry you don't get it...  BlackVelvet04   May-08-08 01:42 PM   #62 
              - Look, I get it... it is painful to see a dream end  nadinbrzezinski   May-08-08 01:53 PM   #65 
                 - I'm not one who will be going to the polls and holding my  BlackVelvet04   May-08-08 02:01 PM   #69 
                    - Then say home, THIS WOMAN will be voting  nadinbrzezinski   May-08-08 02:09 PM   #71 
                       - I can and will bitch about what I want when I want....  BlackVelvet04   May-08-08 02:17 PM   #72 
                          - You can do what you want...  nadinbrzezinski   May-08-08 02:21 PM   #75 
                             - thanks so much for your permission...  BlackVelvet04   May-08-08 04:08 PM   #101 
                                - I hate to do this, but project much?  nadinbrzezinski   May-08-08 04:14 PM   #106 
  - :)  snooper2   May-08-08 01:10 PM   #50 
  - you got it. the usual suspects. it was all about identity politics for most  Tarheel_Dem   May-09-08 03:39 AM   #130 
  - I want him to assure me that he will scrap NCLB  LisaM   May-08-08 02:20 PM   #74 
  - Scrapping the public school system is part of the REPUBLICAN platform Lisa  nadinbrzezinski   May-08-08 02:23 PM   #76 
     - I don't want to scrap the public schools  LisaM   May-08-08 02:28 PM   #80 
        - Let me clarify, the GOP's goal is to privatize all  nadinbrzezinski   May-08-08 03:25 PM   #95 
           - I agree with that totally  LisaM   May-08-08 03:30 PM   #97 
              - Exactly and that is what NCLB is partly designed right now to do  nadinbrzezinski   May-08-08 03:33 PM   #98 
  - I will vote for him, but I do not believe in him as many of you do  Marrah_G   May-08-08 02:41 PM   #87 
  - Four words: Rev. Wright; Donnie McClurkin  lachattefolle   May-08-08 03:57 PM   #99 
  - You are basing "Your" opinion...  stillcool47   May-08-08 04:43 PM   #115 
     - I'm sorry, was I not clear enough? I don't recall posting that I spoke  lachattefolle   May-08-08 04:59 PM   #118 
        - I apologize...I have no right to question..  stillcool47   May-09-08 01:03 AM   #124 
  - Obama cannot make sour grapes taste any better.  Judge_Mental   May-08-08 04:17 PM   #108 
  - Y'all lied through your teeth about Hillary. Then you called her supporters racists. Next question.  Perry Logan   May-08-08 04:40 PM   #114 
  - I am so sick and tired of lies...  stillcool47   May-08-08 04:44 PM   #116 
  - So you're basing your vote on Internet supporters?  democrattotheend   May-08-08 06:21 PM   #122 
  - If you are a Clinton supporter who is unsure about supporting our might be a redneck.  LeviathanCrumbling   May-08-08 04:45 PM   #117 
  - They want him to be white, with ovaries, and married to Bill Clinton...  yourguide   May-08-08 05:02 PM   #119 
  - I will vote for either nominee  tired   May-08-08 05:31 PM   #121 
  - So now the term herein is "Clinton supporter"? How polite. Now.  WinkyDink   May-09-08 01:28 AM   #125 

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