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162. Isn't it interesting how the administration can't seem to run
our government. Maybe they should all go home and we can hire one.
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  -Edwards: Obama Needs 'More Substance' progressive25  May-07-08 06:47 PM   #0 
  - PRECISELY my criticism of him. Edwards is spot-on.  Maddy McCall   May-07-08 06:48 PM   #1 
  - totally agree, there is no substance that I can detect.  Mags   May-07-08 06:49 PM   #2 
  - Try detecting harder.  slick8790   May-07-08 06:50 PM   #5 
  - Bingo!  knixphan   May-07-08 07:05 PM   #47 
  - He has had months to add substance. and he is still vague.  rodeodance   May-07-08 07:44 PM   #90 
  - 90. He has had months to add substance. and he is still vague.  Butch350   May-08-08 08:57 AM   #175 
  - Not to mention Edwards quote is taken out of context and OP ignores Edwards' digs at Hillary  stevenleser   May-08-08 07:42 AM   #144 
     - Maybe, but isn't it Obama that should push his agenda?  LibFromWV   May-08-08 08:47 AM   #172 
  - Welcome back, Mags.  NJSecularist   May-07-08 06:54 PM   #22 
  - thank you.  Mags   May-07-08 06:56 PM   #31 
  - I hate it when they let a tombstoned poster back in.  last1standing   May-07-08 06:54 PM   #28 
  - I was tombstoned? Didn't know it. It's ok to ignore me, I ignore you. not a problem  Mags   May-07-08 06:56 PM   # 
  - Ahh, I see that unity is in full swing as always...  WillyToad   May-08-08 06:10 PM   #194 
  - I don't watch a lot of TV but I did catch her  JoFerret   May-07-08 07:10 PM   #56 
  - Keep using Repuke frames, as she has been doing since February  eridani   May-08-08 08:40 AM   #170 
  - Crap talking points from Hillary's failed GOP-style campaign  nichomachus   May-07-08 07:38 PM   #81 
  - Nicho - I read Edwards' complete statement, it does not have the connotation the OP is giving it.  stevenleser   May-08-08 07:47 AM   #146 
     - Could EASILY post an oppo thread with THIS quote from the ...  PassingFair   May-08-08 08:31 AM   #169 
  - why not post a thread on what he said about hillary?  bambino   May-08-08 09:56 AM   #183 
  - I admit  progressive25   May-07-08 06:49 PM   #3 
  - Translation: Make me VP Barack!  galaxy21   May-07-08 06:51 PM   #10 
  - Why would Obama want someone who thinks he has no substance? n/t  PoliticalAmazon   May-07-08 06:56 PM   #32 
  - Please Mr. Edwards endorse Mrs. Clinton  democracy1st   May-08-08 06:08 AM   #133 
  - Or if not in February or March . . .  Shae   May-08-08 08:26 AM   #167 
  - Then why did you do him the disservice of completely altering the substance of his statements?  stevenleser   May-08-08 08:08 AM   #154 
  - Is he spot on with his criticism of Clinton as "old politics" as well?  SemiCharmedQuark   May-07-08 06:54 PM   #26 
  - Go to Barackobama.com and read the pdf files of his plans. That isn't substance?  washingdem   May-07-08 07:05 PM   #49 
  - I agree with Edwards opinion, I've wanted to hear what he will do, not hype  bluebellbaby   May-08-08 06:12 AM   #136 
  - Is all that matters what's on the Internet?  WinkyDink   May-08-08 01:36 PM   #193 
  - Maybe you should do what you chastised others for not doing  merh   May-07-08 07:56 PM   #103 
  - Edwards is not alone in his thinking. The voting  lumpy   May-07-08 08:52 PM   #116 
  - I'm totally curious. What substance are you looking for?  wileedog   May-07-08 09:56 PM   #126 
  - Why didn't he endorse Mrs Clinton,shame on him  democracy1st   May-08-08 06:06 AM   #132 
  - A source that uses "Democrat" party?  mcctatas   May-07-08 06:50 PM   #4 
  - The source is the UK Times  progressive25   May-07-08 06:51 PM   #11 
  - Then it is spreading...  mcctatas   May-07-08 06:53 PM   #19 
  - No, it was used by the blogger... The Times story says DemocratIC Party.  parasim   May-07-08 07:12 PM   #61 
  - So if the source is the UK times, why didn't you LINK to the UK Times?  brentspeak   May-07-08 08:00 PM   #105 
  - Alarmingly enough, I believe that's how the commercial with McCain attributes the name  PurityOfEssence   May-07-08 06:58 PM   #36 
  - "The Democratic National Committee is responsible for the content of this advertising."  soonerhoosier   May-08-08 09:18 AM   #179 
  - Flyshit in the mayo  lumpy   May-07-08 08:57 PM   #119 
     - ...  mcctatas   May-07-08 10:27 PM   #127 
  - You can promise change...  Indydem   May-07-08 06:50 PM   #6 
  - You mean the twice also-ran/VP loser guy?  lojasmo   May-07-08 06:50 PM   #7 
  - Don't forget IWR SPONSOR and cheerleader.  PassingFair   May-08-08 08:28 AM   #168 
  - "Friendly advice?"  David__77   May-07-08 06:50 PM   #8 
  - Hillary has a lot of substance  skipos   May-07-08 06:51 PM   #9 
  - I'm not  progressive25   May-07-08 06:52 PM   #15 
  - Get ye to intrade and make yourself some money then.  skipos   May-07-08 07:02 PM   # 
  - manure is a substance..so is plutonium  SoCalDem   May-07-08 06:54 PM   #27 
  - Hillary McCain - Votes you can Xerox  grassfed   May-07-08 07:23 PM   #66 
  - If Edwards is not going to endorse he needs to STFU.  ShortnFiery   May-07-08 06:52 PM   #12 
  - A pot of water on your fire.  lumpy   May-07-08 09:00 PM   #120 
  - Share the full quote. You completely misrepresented what he said.  gcomeau   May-07-08 06:52 PM   #13 
  - Thank you! I was looking for the whole quote!  SemiCharmedQuark   May-07-08 06:53 PM   #18 
  - You beat me to it...an Obama-hating blogger taking things WAY out of context  CakeGrrl   May-07-08 06:56 PM   #30 
  - Thanks for posting this. You beat me to it.  Cant trust em   May-07-08 06:57 PM   #33 
  - Thank you. Context is everything.  Shakespeare   May-07-08 06:57 PM   #34 
  - Thank you for posting the whole quote. I think the unbolded part at the end  Peace Patriot   May-07-08 08:01 PM   #107 
  - Yup. Edwards and Kucinich each espoused views that earned them...  tledford   May-07-08 08:19 PM   #113 
  - I honestly think he's not going to be permitted.  grasswire   May-07-08 09:31 PM   #124 
  - So, basically, you're saying that Charles Manson was correct  Clark2008   May-08-08 07:37 AM   #143 
  - I think he's serious about finding a different way of doing things.  lumberjack_jeff   May-08-08 01:13 PM   #186 
  - Absolutely correct. The OP is completely misleading. Edwards clearly likes Obama...  stevenleser   May-08-08 07:51 AM   #148 
  - If you link to the actual story, not just some dude's blog, you see the real quote  Bucky   May-07-08 06:52 PM   #14 
  - Obama had the 'substance' to get his hands dirty for his community  babylonsister   May-07-08 06:53 PM   #16 
  - Can I sell you some ocean front property in Minnesota? Get real.......  Darth_Kitten   May-07-08 07:47 PM   #95 
  - If you mean getting  edwardsguy   May-08-08 09:43 AM   #180 
  - What tripe. "joins them in their non-committal stance" Who is this shitty writer?  BushDespiser12   May-07-08 06:53 PM   #17 
  - agreed....and Edwards is a good man  ElsewheresDaughter   May-07-08 06:53 PM   #20 
  - No offense to Edwards, but Obama seems to be doing pretty darn well  stahbrett   May-07-08 06:53 PM   #21 
  - how "nice" of him to speak up now..  SoCalDem   May-07-08 06:54 PM   #23 
  - These comments were made several days ago  brentspeak   May-07-08 07:26 PM   #68 
  - I really don't think this blog is a credible source  Juniperx   May-07-08 06:54 PM   #24 
  - I don't buy it either - they claimed Kennedy was wavering on Obama a few days ago -  blm   May-07-08 07:04 PM   # 
  - You would be right to think that. This is not at all what was said. Here are links  stevenleser   May-08-08 08:09 AM   #155 
  - John Edwards is from my area of the state of North Carolina.  Jamastiene   May-07-08 06:54 PM   #25 
  - He would have made a great pres  progressive25   May-07-08 06:56 PM   #29 
  - "Democrat party elite"????  tnlefty   May-07-08 06:57 PM   #35 
  - LOL Edwards telling someone else to be strong!  dcindian   May-07-08 06:58 PM   #37 
  - LOL gullible Duers buying it hook, line and sinker  democracyindanger   May-07-08 07:01 PM   #39 
  - Maybe if his wife didn't have cancer  progressive25   May-07-08 07:02 PM   #41 
  - exactly. JE has no platform from which to preach about anything.  knixphan   May-07-08 07:06 PM   #51 
  - Edwards is right on target  leftofcool   May-07-08 06:59 PM   #38 
  - Obama is an empty suit to most people who aren't from his  mac2   May-07-08 07:03 PM   #44 
  - Like A Predatory-Lending Hedge Fund?  MannyGoldstein   May-07-08 07:02 PM   #40 
  - Very specific on Universal Life as Hillary is  progressive25   May-07-08 07:04 PM   #45 
     - What Is "Universal Life"??  MannyGoldstein   May-07-08 07:07 PM   #54 
  - That's a few days old.  Kittycat   May-07-08 07:02 PM   #42 
  - On the other hand,  varelse   May-07-08 07:02 PM   #43 
  - Obama has substance.  PM7nj   May-07-08 07:04 PM   #46 
  - Really. How much will his universal health program cost  progressive25   May-07-08 07:06 PM   #50 
  - 50-65 billion a year.  PM7nj   May-07-08 09:29 PM   #123 
  - The plans of all three "top tier" candidates are worthless, not being single payer  eridani   May-08-08 09:00 AM   #177 
  - He had "substance" when he ran for Senator but we saw little of it against Bush  mac2   May-07-08 07:07 PM   #55 
     - Specifics on Univeral Health Please?  progressive25   May-07-08 07:11 PM   #57 
  - Obama substance: Iraq will be a disaster.....Edwards substance: Yeah, I think we should invade  hulka38   May-07-08 07:05 PM   #48 
  - Howard Dean and Edwards said that prior to Obama even  mac2   May-07-08 07:11 PM   #58 
  - That BLOG is quoting an ARTICLE that is quoting Edwards from BEFORE the May 6 Election. Sorry.  berni_mccoy   May-07-08 07:06 PM   #52 
  - In the article itself, Edwards says "Obama needs to SHOW more substance IN his rhetoric"  Bucky   May-07-08 07:14 PM   #63 
  - He is not the only one saying this... Obama needs to talk more about the issues. eom  dogday   May-07-08 07:07 PM   #53 
  - Because John McCain will say it too.  progressive25   May-07-08 07:13 PM   #62 
  - Pot meet kettle?  Truth Hurts A Lot   May-07-08 07:11 PM   #59 
  - Coming from Edwards. LMAO  TheDonkey   May-07-08 07:12 PM   #60 
  - Pot, kettle, black.  tritsofme   May-07-08 07:20 PM   #64 
  - One of those "Democrat Party"-talking bloggers, huh?  parasim   May-07-08 07:23 PM   #65 
  - Real link for those who want the whole story  TragedyandHope   May-07-08 07:24 PM   #67 
  - Sorry, but Obama has more substance than Edwards  karynnj   May-07-08 07:27 PM   #69 
  - Agreed! I never saw a whole lot of substance to Edwards  4_Legs_Good   May-07-08 07:30 PM   #71 
  - So when Edwards applauded Obama as someone who "really wants to bring about serious change"  brentspeak   May-07-08 07:32 PM   #74 
     - Saying Obama has MORE, does not mean Edwards has NONE  karynnj   May-07-08 07:36 PM   #79 
     - I didn't say he had NO substance I said Obama had MORE  karynnj   May-07-08 08:15 PM   #110 
  - Edwards. A one term Senator and failed VP candidate.  bunnies   May-07-08 07:28 PM   #70 
  - Not so suddenly, you're clueless  brentspeak   May-07-08 07:35 PM   # 
     - Im not clueless. How jackasslike of you to say so.  bunnies   May-07-08 07:40 PM   #84 
        - So, you didn't even read the blog which the OP excerpted from?  brentspeak   May-07-08 07:42 PM   #87 
           - reading some 'blog' doesnt change my original point, which you are avoiding.  bunnies   May-07-08 07:45 PM   #91 
  - Talk about the pot calling the kettle black.  screembloodymurder   May-07-08 07:30 PM   #72 
  - Showing off how much you listen to Rush and Hannity?  brentspeak   May-07-08 07:35 PM   #77 
  - My main criticism of Obama as well....  DemExpat   May-07-08 07:32 PM   #73 
  - I am so tired of hearing this crap, maybe if Edwards had translated his plans  oviedodem   May-07-08 07:33 PM   #75 
  - Sigh edwards  Egnever   May-07-08 07:35 PM   #76 
  - Oh, how typically childish......  Darth_Kitten   May-07-08 07:39 PM   #83 
     - you mean like voting for the IWR?  Egnever   May-07-08 07:40 PM   #85 
        - Edwards voted not to fund it afterward -  waiting for hope   May-08-08 07:28 AM   #139 
  - So, is the implication that Edwards is PART of this dreaded "elite"?  impeachdubya   May-07-08 07:36 PM   #78 
  - Well I'll be gobsmacked...  mcctatas   May-07-08 07:37 PM   #80 
  - Exactly, And the OP is basically flamebaiting  brentspeak   May-07-08 07:45 PM   #93 
  - ...and Edwards' substance was...what, exactly?  Elrond Hubbard   May-07-08 07:39 PM   #82 
  - Courage to take a REAL stand? Not being an empty suit who takes his ideas from others?  Darth_Kitten   May-07-08 07:43 PM   #88 
     - Did he develop this concern all along, or only when it became politically convenient?  Elrond Hubbard   May-07-08 08:53 PM   #117 
     - Yeah, he took a real stand alright: Gung ho for a catastrophic  cali   May-08-08 05:57 AM   #129 
  - LOL, lack of substance is what killed him.  Bensthename   May-07-08 07:40 PM   #86 
  - LOL....why does everybody question Obama's character but not Edwards?  Darth_Kitten   May-07-08 07:45 PM   #92 
     - That is his only weakness they are trying to capitalize on.  Bensthename   May-07-08 07:48 PM   #96 
  - How did Edwards "substance" work out for him in 2004 and 2008?  Bleachers7   May-07-08 07:44 PM   #89 
  - Ok, maybe you're right: Edwards was WRONG to say that Obama "really does want...serious change"  brentspeak   May-07-08 07:50 PM   #99 
  - LOL.......Why was Obama always Edward's little echo in most of the debates?  Darth_Kitten   May-07-08 07:51 PM   #100 
  - Fuck him, He was my first choice. But then he didn't have the  Laura PackYourBags   May-07-08 07:47 PM   #94 
  - Yeah. Right.  Darth_Kitten   May-07-08 07:48 PM   #97 
  - Ha! The attacks on Edwards right on time, I see...LOL  DemGa   May-07-08 07:49 PM   #98 
  - Well, don't pop their balloons........  Darth_Kitten   May-07-08 07:52 PM   #101 
  - And who is he to talk? Obama has already been way more successful than he ever has.  pointsoflight   May-07-08 07:53 PM   #102 
  - A brilliantly-backed-up argument. Chock full of persuasive language and details.  brentspeak   May-07-08 07:59 PM   #104 
  - Not true until Obama ran for the Senate.  mac2   May-08-08 08:17 AM   #159 
  - Just an aside-  countingbluecars   May-07-08 08:01 PM   #106 
  - That was a while ago. Who knows what he thinks now.  NC_Nurse   May-07-08 08:02 PM   #108 
  - Jupiter Jump, what does fmr.-Senator Edwards want....  whistler162   May-07-08 08:02 PM   #109 
  - Another Rush Limbaugh secret agent?  brentspeak   May-07-08 08:16 PM   #111 
  - K&R  blues90   May-07-08 08:19 PM   #112 
  - Your post manages to belittle both...  dchill   May-07-08 08:24 PM   #114 
  - No pandering elimination of the gas tax for the summer  dmordue   May-07-08 08:44 PM   #115 
  - There's nothing "progressive" about the OP.....  scheming daemons   May-07-08 08:55 PM   #118 
  - Edwards is irrelevant.  HousePainter   May-07-08 09:14 PM   #121 
  - I guess he is relevant enough. Hence the article. And the shit that is flying on the DU!  Inspired   May-08-08 05:29 AM   #128 
     - He IS relevant. OP misquoted him and missed the entire bent of the statement  stevenleser   May-08-08 08:06 AM   #153 
  - I guess Edwards will not be the VP. I don't like him anymore.  Lady-Damai   May-07-08 09:18 PM   #122 
  - Not new. Also article/blogger incorrectly identify Edwards as a superdelegate. He isn't. nt  Garbo 2004   May-07-08 09:42 PM   #125 
  - Hey Obots! Time to throw Edwards under the bus if you haven't already!  Freedom Train   May-08-08 06:01 AM   #130 
  - OP misquoted him. Edwards remarks were much more complimentary of Obama than Hillary  stevenleser   May-08-08 08:04 AM   #152 
  - Please Mr. Edwards endorse Mrs. Clinton  democracy1st   May-08-08 06:05 AM   #131 
  - Obama: junk food candidate  OzarkDem   May-08-08 06:09 AM   #134 
  - We should.  Clark2008   May-08-08 07:43 AM   #145 
  - lol @ junk food candidate, that is so true.  annie1   May-08-08 08:19 AM   #160 
  - His fans have had months to tell us why we should vote for him. Instead, they smeared Hillary.  Perry Logan   May-08-08 06:11 AM   #135 
  - He is full of it  dansolo   May-08-08 06:14 AM   #137 
  - Edwards nailed it. n/t  LWolf   May-08-08 06:32 AM   #138 
  - I agree, because Edwards did not say what the OP claims he did. He likes Obama...  stevenleser   May-08-08 08:11 AM   #156 
     - So, are you saying Edwards DIDN'T say  LWolf   May-08-08 11:12 PM   #195 
  - Pot... meet Kettle.  Clark2008   May-08-08 07:31 AM   #140 
  - i agree  Fabio   May-08-08 08:00 AM   #151 
  - I suggest he get his ears cleaned amd eyes checked.  tokenlib   May-08-08 07:31 AM   #141 
  - Obama's position papers are remiss and filled with holes  progressive25   May-08-08 07:49 AM   #147 
  - You have no credibility. You misquoted Edwards and took some words out of context *PLONK*  stevenleser   May-08-08 08:00 AM   #150 
  - Speak to the facts  progressive25   May-08-08 08:19 AM   #161 
  - Isn't it interesting how the administration can't seem to run  mac2   May-08-08 08:19 AM   #162 
  - The big picture is not detailed but filled with hope and change.  mac2   May-08-08 08:21 AM   #164 
  - I smell sour grapes. Edwards realizes he should have stayed in. nt  Vinca   May-08-08 07:33 AM   #142 
  - Vinca - the OP misquotes Edwards,out of context and ignores Edward's digs at Hillary  stevenleser   May-08-08 07:54 AM   #149 
     - Thanks. I should have taken the time to read the entire piece.  Vinca   May-08-08 08:12 AM   #158 
     - No problem, it happens. And tell "ignored" that I dont debate with people who use those tactics.  stevenleser   May-08-08 08:22 AM   #165 
     - Address Obama's lack of substance and specifics  progressive25   May-08-08 08:21 AM   #163 
  - 'needs more substance, but at least he's a good symbol cuz he's black'.  annie1   May-08-08 08:12 AM   #157 
  - Edward Addresses the Obvious and Obama Supporters  progressive25   May-08-08 08:24 AM   #166 
  - I have to agre- this is my main gripe also  Marrah_G   May-08-08 08:44 AM   #171 
  - K&R  cricket08   May-08-08 08:52 AM   #173 
  - The hell with edwards  Butch350   May-08-08 08:53 AM   #174 
  - He is right. He does. We have gotten side-tracked in a media circus  debbierlus   May-08-08 09:00 AM   #176 
  - When the presstitutes in the M$M harp on obscure religious dudes and old land deals..  truebrit71   May-08-08 09:03 AM   #178 
  - Take it as constructive criticism  PeterU   May-08-08 09:46 AM   #181 
  - Similar to gore and others  PATRICK   May-08-08 09:54 AM   #182 
  - THe biggest empty suit in politics complains that Obama needs substance?!?!?!  Milo_Bloom   May-08-08 09:56 AM   #184 
  - Oh yeah, the wise old statesman knows.  Xap   May-08-08 10:06 AM   #185 
  - Everything Obama proposes is subject to approval  Kesaco   May-08-08 01:18 PM   #187 
  - get used to it, he's the nominee  spanone   May-08-08 01:19 PM   #188 
  - More substance? Like proof of sound judgements with votes while in office  madmunchie   May-08-08 01:21 PM   #189 
  - THE OP IS A DAMN LIE: EDWARDS QUOTE  uponit7771   May-08-08 01:21 PM   #190 
  - Uh... you do know he called Clinton the candidate for the status quo, right?  redqueen   May-08-08 01:23 PM   #191 
  - Thank you senator Edwards!!!  Beacool   May-08-08 01:34 PM   #192 
 

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