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75. I am so tired of hearing this crap, maybe if Edwards had translated his plans
he would still be in the race.

ALL YOU NEED TO DO IS LISTEN to his town halls, READ his site, and just LISTEN. It is all there.
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  -Edwards: Obama Needs 'More Substance' progressive25  May-07-08 06:47 PM   #0 
  - PRECISELY my criticism of him. Edwards is spot-on.  Maddy McCall   May-07-08 06:48 PM   #1 
  - totally agree, there is no substance that I can detect.  Mags   May-07-08 06:49 PM   #2 
  - Try detecting harder.  slick8790   May-07-08 06:50 PM   #5 
  - Bingo!  knixphan   May-07-08 07:05 PM   #47 
  - He has had months to add substance. and he is still vague.  rodeodance   May-07-08 07:44 PM   #90 
  - 90. He has had months to add substance. and he is still vague.  Butch350   May-08-08 08:57 AM   #175 
  - Not to mention Edwards quote is taken out of context and OP ignores Edwards' digs at Hillary  stevenleser   May-08-08 07:42 AM   #144 
     - Maybe, but isn't it Obama that should push his agenda?  LibFromWV   May-08-08 08:47 AM   #172 
  - Welcome back, Mags.  NJSecularist   May-07-08 06:54 PM   #22 
  - thank you.  Mags   May-07-08 06:56 PM   #31 
  - I hate it when they let a tombstoned poster back in.  last1standing   May-07-08 06:54 PM   #28 
  - I was tombstoned? Didn't know it. It's ok to ignore me, I ignore you. not a problem  Mags   May-07-08 06:56 PM   # 
  - Ahh, I see that unity is in full swing as always...  WillyToad   May-08-08 06:10 PM   #194 
  - I don't watch a lot of TV but I did catch her  JoFerret   May-07-08 07:10 PM   #56 
  - Keep using Repuke frames, as she has been doing since February  eridani   May-08-08 08:40 AM   #170 
  - Crap talking points from Hillary's failed GOP-style campaign  nichomachus   May-07-08 07:38 PM   #81 
  - Nicho - I read Edwards' complete statement, it does not have the connotation the OP is giving it.  stevenleser   May-08-08 07:47 AM   #146 
     - Could EASILY post an oppo thread with THIS quote from the ...  PassingFair   May-08-08 08:31 AM   #169 
  - why not post a thread on what he said about hillary?  bambino   May-08-08 09:56 AM   #183 
  - I admit  progressive25   May-07-08 06:49 PM   #3 
  - Translation: Make me VP Barack!  galaxy21   May-07-08 06:51 PM   #10 
  - Why would Obama want someone who thinks he has no substance? n/t  PoliticalAmazon   May-07-08 06:56 PM   #32 
  - Please Mr. Edwards endorse Mrs. Clinton  democracy1st   May-08-08 06:08 AM   #133 
  - Or if not in February or March . . .  Shae   May-08-08 08:26 AM   #167 
  - Then why did you do him the disservice of completely altering the substance of his statements?  stevenleser   May-08-08 08:08 AM   #154 
  - Is he spot on with his criticism of Clinton as "old politics" as well?  SemiCharmedQuark   May-07-08 06:54 PM   #26 
  - Go to and read the pdf files of his plans. That isn't substance?  washingdem   May-07-08 07:05 PM   #49 
  - I agree with Edwards opinion, I've wanted to hear what he will do, not hype  bluebellbaby   May-08-08 06:12 AM   #136 
  - Is all that matters what's on the Internet?  WinkyDink   May-08-08 01:36 PM   #193 
  - Maybe you should do what you chastised others for not doing  merh   May-07-08 07:56 PM   #103 
  - Edwards is not alone in his thinking. The voting  lumpy   May-07-08 08:52 PM   #116 
  - I'm totally curious. What substance are you looking for?  wileedog   May-07-08 09:56 PM   #126 
  - Why didn't he endorse Mrs Clinton,shame on him  democracy1st   May-08-08 06:06 AM   #132 
  - A source that uses "Democrat" party?  mcctatas   May-07-08 06:50 PM   #4 
  - The source is the UK Times  progressive25   May-07-08 06:51 PM   #11 
  - Then it is spreading...  mcctatas   May-07-08 06:53 PM   #19 
  - No, it was used by the blogger... The Times story says DemocratIC Party.  parasim   May-07-08 07:12 PM   #61 
  - So if the source is the UK times, why didn't you LINK to the UK Times?  brentspeak   May-07-08 08:00 PM   #105 
  - Alarmingly enough, I believe that's how the commercial with McCain attributes the name  PurityOfEssence   May-07-08 06:58 PM   #36 
  - "The Democratic National Committee is responsible for the content of this advertising."  soonerhoosier   May-08-08 09:18 AM   #179 
  - Flyshit in the mayo  lumpy   May-07-08 08:57 PM   #119 
     - ...  mcctatas   May-07-08 10:27 PM   #127 
  - You can promise change...  Indydem   May-07-08 06:50 PM   #6 
  - You mean the twice also-ran/VP loser guy?  lojasmo   May-07-08 06:50 PM   #7 
  - Don't forget IWR SPONSOR and cheerleader.  PassingFair   May-08-08 08:28 AM   #168 
  - "Friendly advice?"  David__77   May-07-08 06:50 PM   #8 
  - Hillary has a lot of substance  skipos   May-07-08 06:51 PM   #9 
  - I'm not  progressive25   May-07-08 06:52 PM   #15 
  - Get ye to intrade and make yourself some money then.  skipos   May-07-08 07:02 PM   # 
  - manure is a is plutonium  SoCalDem   May-07-08 06:54 PM   #27 
  - Hillary McCain - Votes you can Xerox  grassfed   May-07-08 07:23 PM   #66 
  - If Edwards is not going to endorse he needs to STFU.  ShortnFiery   May-07-08 06:52 PM   #12 
  - A pot of water on your fire.  lumpy   May-07-08 09:00 PM   #120 
  - Share the full quote. You completely misrepresented what he said.  gcomeau   May-07-08 06:52 PM   #13 
  - Thank you! I was looking for the whole quote!  SemiCharmedQuark   May-07-08 06:53 PM   #18 
  - You beat me to Obama-hating blogger taking things WAY out of context  CakeGrrl   May-07-08 06:56 PM   #30 
  - Thanks for posting this. You beat me to it.  Cant trust em   May-07-08 06:57 PM   #33 
  - Thank you. Context is everything.  Shakespeare   May-07-08 06:57 PM   #34 
  - Thank you for posting the whole quote. I think the unbolded part at the end  Peace Patriot   May-07-08 08:01 PM   #107 
  - Yup. Edwards and Kucinich each espoused views that earned them...  tledford   May-07-08 08:19 PM   #113 
  - I honestly think he's not going to be permitted.  grasswire   May-07-08 09:31 PM   #124 
  - So, basically, you're saying that Charles Manson was correct  Clark2008   May-08-08 07:37 AM   #143 
  - I think he's serious about finding a different way of doing things.  lumberjack_jeff   May-08-08 01:13 PM   #186 
  - Absolutely correct. The OP is completely misleading. Edwards clearly likes Obama...  stevenleser   May-08-08 07:51 AM   #148 
  - If you link to the actual story, not just some dude's blog, you see the real quote  Bucky   May-07-08 06:52 PM   #14 
  - Obama had the 'substance' to get his hands dirty for his community  babylonsister   May-07-08 06:53 PM   #16 
  - Can I sell you some ocean front property in Minnesota? Get real.......  Darth_Kitten   May-07-08 07:47 PM   #95 
  - If you mean getting  edwardsguy   May-08-08 09:43 AM   #180 
  - What tripe. "joins them in their non-committal stance" Who is this shitty writer?  BushDespiser12   May-07-08 06:53 PM   #17 
  - agreed....and Edwards is a good man  ElsewheresDaughter   May-07-08 06:53 PM   #20 
  - No offense to Edwards, but Obama seems to be doing pretty darn well  stahbrett   May-07-08 06:53 PM   #21 
  - how "nice" of him to speak up now..  SoCalDem   May-07-08 06:54 PM   #23 
  - These comments were made several days ago  brentspeak   May-07-08 07:26 PM   #68 
  - I really don't think this blog is a credible source  Juniperx   May-07-08 06:54 PM   #24 
  - I don't buy it either - they claimed Kennedy was wavering on Obama a few days ago -  blm   May-07-08 07:04 PM   # 
  - You would be right to think that. This is not at all what was said. Here are links  stevenleser   May-08-08 08:09 AM   #155 
  - John Edwards is from my area of the state of North Carolina.  Jamastiene   May-07-08 06:54 PM   #25 
  - He would have made a great pres  progressive25   May-07-08 06:56 PM   #29 
  - "Democrat party elite"????  tnlefty   May-07-08 06:57 PM   #35 
  - LOL Edwards telling someone else to be strong!  dcindian   May-07-08 06:58 PM   #37 
  - LOL gullible Duers buying it hook, line and sinker  democracyindanger   May-07-08 07:01 PM   #39 
  - Maybe if his wife didn't have cancer  progressive25   May-07-08 07:02 PM   #41 
  - exactly. JE has no platform from which to preach about anything.  knixphan   May-07-08 07:06 PM   #51 
  - Edwards is right on target  leftofcool   May-07-08 06:59 PM   #38 
  - Obama is an empty suit to most people who aren't from his  mac2   May-07-08 07:03 PM   #44 
  - Like A Predatory-Lending Hedge Fund?  MannyGoldstein   May-07-08 07:02 PM   #40 
  - Very specific on Universal Life as Hillary is  progressive25   May-07-08 07:04 PM   #45 
     - What Is "Universal Life"??  MannyGoldstein   May-07-08 07:07 PM   #54 
  - That's a few days old.  Kittycat   May-07-08 07:02 PM   #42 
  - On the other hand,  varelse   May-07-08 07:02 PM   #43 
  - Obama has substance.  PM7nj   May-07-08 07:04 PM   #46 
  - Really. How much will his universal health program cost  progressive25   May-07-08 07:06 PM   #50 
  - 50-65 billion a year.  PM7nj   May-07-08 09:29 PM   #123 
  - The plans of all three "top tier" candidates are worthless, not being single payer  eridani   May-08-08 09:00 AM   #177 
  - He had "substance" when he ran for Senator but we saw little of it against Bush  mac2   May-07-08 07:07 PM   #55 
     - Specifics on Univeral Health Please?  progressive25   May-07-08 07:11 PM   #57 
  - Obama substance: Iraq will be a disaster.....Edwards substance: Yeah, I think we should invade  hulka38   May-07-08 07:05 PM   #48 
  - Howard Dean and Edwards said that prior to Obama even  mac2   May-07-08 07:11 PM   #58 
  - That BLOG is quoting an ARTICLE that is quoting Edwards from BEFORE the May 6 Election. Sorry.  berni_mccoy   May-07-08 07:06 PM   #52 
  - In the article itself, Edwards says "Obama needs to SHOW more substance IN his rhetoric"  Bucky   May-07-08 07:14 PM   #63 
  - He is not the only one saying this... Obama needs to talk more about the issues. eom  dogday   May-07-08 07:07 PM   #53 
  - Because John McCain will say it too.  progressive25   May-07-08 07:13 PM   #62 
  - Pot meet kettle?  Truth Hurts A Lot   May-07-08 07:11 PM   #59 
  - Coming from Edwards. LMAO  TheDonkey   May-07-08 07:12 PM   #60 
  - Pot, kettle, black.  tritsofme   May-07-08 07:20 PM   #64 
  - One of those "Democrat Party"-talking bloggers, huh?  parasim   May-07-08 07:23 PM   #65 
  - Real link for those who want the whole story  TragedyandHope   May-07-08 07:24 PM   #67 
  - Sorry, but Obama has more substance than Edwards  karynnj   May-07-08 07:27 PM   #69 
  - Agreed! I never saw a whole lot of substance to Edwards  4_Legs_Good   May-07-08 07:30 PM   #71 
  - So when Edwards applauded Obama as someone who "really wants to bring about serious change"  brentspeak   May-07-08 07:32 PM   #74 
     - Saying Obama has MORE, does not mean Edwards has NONE  karynnj   May-07-08 07:36 PM   #79 
     - I didn't say he had NO substance I said Obama had MORE  karynnj   May-07-08 08:15 PM   #110 
  - Edwards. A one term Senator and failed VP candidate.  bunnies   May-07-08 07:28 PM   #70 
  - Not so suddenly, you're clueless  brentspeak   May-07-08 07:35 PM   # 
     - Im not clueless. How jackasslike of you to say so.  bunnies   May-07-08 07:40 PM   #84 
        - So, you didn't even read the blog which the OP excerpted from?  brentspeak   May-07-08 07:42 PM   #87 
           - reading some 'blog' doesnt change my original point, which you are avoiding.  bunnies   May-07-08 07:45 PM   #91 
  - Talk about the pot calling the kettle black.  screembloodymurder   May-07-08 07:30 PM   #72 
  - Showing off how much you listen to Rush and Hannity?  brentspeak   May-07-08 07:35 PM   #77 
  - My main criticism of Obama as well....  DemExpat   May-07-08 07:32 PM   #73 
  - I am so tired of hearing this crap, maybe if Edwards had translated his plans  oviedodem   May-07-08 07:33 PM   #75 
  - Sigh edwards  Egnever   May-07-08 07:35 PM   #76 
  - Oh, how typically childish......  Darth_Kitten   May-07-08 07:39 PM   #83 
     - you mean like voting for the IWR?  Egnever   May-07-08 07:40 PM   #85 
        - Edwards voted not to fund it afterward -  waiting for hope   May-08-08 07:28 AM   #139 
  - So, is the implication that Edwards is PART of this dreaded "elite"?  impeachdubya   May-07-08 07:36 PM   #78 
  - Well I'll be gobsmacked...  mcctatas   May-07-08 07:37 PM   #80 
  - Exactly, And the OP is basically flamebaiting  brentspeak   May-07-08 07:45 PM   #93 
  - ...and Edwards' substance was...what, exactly?  Elrond Hubbard   May-07-08 07:39 PM   #82 
  - Courage to take a REAL stand? Not being an empty suit who takes his ideas from others?  Darth_Kitten   May-07-08 07:43 PM   #88 
     - Did he develop this concern all along, or only when it became politically convenient?  Elrond Hubbard   May-07-08 08:53 PM   #117 
     - Yeah, he took a real stand alright: Gung ho for a catastrophic  cali   May-08-08 05:57 AM   #129 
  - LOL, lack of substance is what killed him.  Bensthename   May-07-08 07:40 PM   #86 
  - LOL....why does everybody question Obama's character but not Edwards?  Darth_Kitten   May-07-08 07:45 PM   #92 
     - That is his only weakness they are trying to capitalize on.  Bensthename   May-07-08 07:48 PM   #96 
  - How did Edwards "substance" work out for him in 2004 and 2008?  Bleachers7   May-07-08 07:44 PM   #89 
  - Ok, maybe you're right: Edwards was WRONG to say that Obama "really does want...serious change"  brentspeak   May-07-08 07:50 PM   #99 
  - LOL.......Why was Obama always Edward's little echo in most of the debates?  Darth_Kitten   May-07-08 07:51 PM   #100 
  - Fuck him, He was my first choice. But then he didn't have the  Laura PackYourBags   May-07-08 07:47 PM   #94 
  - Yeah. Right.  Darth_Kitten   May-07-08 07:48 PM   #97 
  - Ha! The attacks on Edwards right on time, I see...LOL  DemGa   May-07-08 07:49 PM   #98 
  - Well, don't pop their balloons........  Darth_Kitten   May-07-08 07:52 PM   #101 
  - And who is he to talk? Obama has already been way more successful than he ever has.  pointsoflight   May-07-08 07:53 PM   #102 
  - A brilliantly-backed-up argument. Chock full of persuasive language and details.  brentspeak   May-07-08 07:59 PM   #104 
  - Not true until Obama ran for the Senate.  mac2   May-08-08 08:17 AM   #159 
  - Just an aside-  countingbluecars   May-07-08 08:01 PM   #106 
  - That was a while ago. Who knows what he thinks now.  NC_Nurse   May-07-08 08:02 PM   #108 
  - Jupiter Jump, what does fmr.-Senator Edwards want....  whistler162   May-07-08 08:02 PM   #109 
  - Another Rush Limbaugh secret agent?  brentspeak   May-07-08 08:16 PM   #111 
  - K&R  blues90   May-07-08 08:19 PM   #112 
  - Your post manages to belittle both...  dchill   May-07-08 08:24 PM   #114 
  - No pandering elimination of the gas tax for the summer  dmordue   May-07-08 08:44 PM   #115 
  - There's nothing "progressive" about the OP.....  scheming daemons   May-07-08 08:55 PM   #118 
  - Edwards is irrelevant.  HousePainter   May-07-08 09:14 PM   #121 
  - I guess he is relevant enough. Hence the article. And the shit that is flying on the DU!  Inspired   May-08-08 05:29 AM   #128 
     - He IS relevant. OP misquoted him and missed the entire bent of the statement  stevenleser   May-08-08 08:06 AM   #153 
  - I guess Edwards will not be the VP. I don't like him anymore.  Lady-Damai   May-07-08 09:18 PM   #122 
  - Not new. Also article/blogger incorrectly identify Edwards as a superdelegate. He isn't. nt  Garbo 2004   May-07-08 09:42 PM   #125 
  - Hey Obots! Time to throw Edwards under the bus if you haven't already!  Freedom Train   May-08-08 06:01 AM   #130 
  - OP misquoted him. Edwards remarks were much more complimentary of Obama than Hillary  stevenleser   May-08-08 08:04 AM   #152 
  - Please Mr. Edwards endorse Mrs. Clinton  democracy1st   May-08-08 06:05 AM   #131 
  - Obama: junk food candidate  OzarkDem   May-08-08 06:09 AM   #134 
  - We should.  Clark2008   May-08-08 07:43 AM   #145 
  - lol @ junk food candidate, that is so true.  annie1   May-08-08 08:19 AM   #160 
  - His fans have had months to tell us why we should vote for him. Instead, they smeared Hillary.  Perry Logan   May-08-08 06:11 AM   #135 
  - He is full of it  dansolo   May-08-08 06:14 AM   #137 
  - Edwards nailed it. n/t  LWolf   May-08-08 06:32 AM   #138 
  - I agree, because Edwards did not say what the OP claims he did. He likes Obama...  stevenleser   May-08-08 08:11 AM   #156 
     - So, are you saying Edwards DIDN'T say  LWolf   May-08-08 11:12 PM   #195 
  - Pot... meet Kettle.  Clark2008   May-08-08 07:31 AM   #140 
  - i agree  Fabio   May-08-08 08:00 AM   #151 
  - I suggest he get his ears cleaned amd eyes checked.  tokenlib   May-08-08 07:31 AM   #141 
  - Obama's position papers are remiss and filled with holes  progressive25   May-08-08 07:49 AM   #147 
  - You have no credibility. You misquoted Edwards and took some words out of context *PLONK*  stevenleser   May-08-08 08:00 AM   #150 
  - Speak to the facts  progressive25   May-08-08 08:19 AM   #161 
  - Isn't it interesting how the administration can't seem to run  mac2   May-08-08 08:19 AM   #162 
  - The big picture is not detailed but filled with hope and change.  mac2   May-08-08 08:21 AM   #164 
  - I smell sour grapes. Edwards realizes he should have stayed in. nt  Vinca   May-08-08 07:33 AM   #142 
  - Vinca - the OP misquotes Edwards,out of context and ignores Edward's digs at Hillary  stevenleser   May-08-08 07:54 AM   #149 
     - Thanks. I should have taken the time to read the entire piece.  Vinca   May-08-08 08:12 AM   #158 
     - No problem, it happens. And tell "ignored" that I dont debate with people who use those tactics.  stevenleser   May-08-08 08:22 AM   #165 
     - Address Obama's lack of substance and specifics  progressive25   May-08-08 08:21 AM   #163 
  - 'needs more substance, but at least he's a good symbol cuz he's black'.  annie1   May-08-08 08:12 AM   #157 
  - Edward Addresses the Obvious and Obama Supporters  progressive25   May-08-08 08:24 AM   #166 
  - I have to agre- this is my main gripe also  Marrah_G   May-08-08 08:44 AM   #171 
  - K&R  cricket08   May-08-08 08:52 AM   #173 
  - The hell with edwards  Butch350   May-08-08 08:53 AM   #174 
  - He is right. He does. We have gotten side-tracked in a media circus  debbierlus   May-08-08 09:00 AM   #176 
  - When the presstitutes in the M$M harp on obscure religious dudes and old land deals..  truebrit71   May-08-08 09:03 AM   #178 
  - Take it as constructive criticism  PeterU   May-08-08 09:46 AM   #181 
  - Similar to gore and others  PATRICK   May-08-08 09:54 AM   #182 
  - THe biggest empty suit in politics complains that Obama needs substance?!?!?!  Milo_Bloom   May-08-08 09:56 AM   #184 
  - Oh yeah, the wise old statesman knows.  Xap   May-08-08 10:06 AM   #185 
  - Everything Obama proposes is subject to approval  Kesaco   May-08-08 01:18 PM   #187 
  - get used to it, he's the nominee  spanone   May-08-08 01:19 PM   #188 
  - More substance? Like proof of sound judgements with votes while in office  madmunchie   May-08-08 01:21 PM   #189 
  - THE OP IS A DAMN LIE: EDWARDS QUOTE  uponit7771   May-08-08 01:21 PM   #190 
  - Uh... you do know he called Clinton the candidate for the status quo, right?  redqueen   May-08-08 01:23 PM   #191 
  - Thank you senator Edwards!!!  Beacool   May-08-08 01:34 PM   #192 

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