| 74. So when Edwards applauded Obama as someone who "really wants to bring about serious change" |
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Edited on Wed May-07-08 07:33 PM by brentspeak
we should believe the opposite, because, in your opinion, Edwards lacks substance? Well, if that's the way you want us to think... http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/world/us_and_amer... |
| -Edwards: Obama Needs 'More Substance' |
progressive25 |
May-07-08 06:47 PM |
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PRECISELY my criticism of him. Edwards is spot-on. |
Maddy McCall |
May-07-08 06:48 PM |
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totally agree, there is no substance that I can detect. |
Mags |
May-07-08 06:49 PM |
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Try detecting harder. |
slick8790 |
May-07-08 06:50 PM |
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Bingo! |
knixphan |
May-07-08 07:05 PM |
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He has had months to add substance. and he is still vague. |
rodeodance |
May-07-08 07:44 PM |
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90. He has had months to add substance. and he is still vague. |
Butch350 |
May-08-08 08:57 AM |
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Not to mention Edwards quote is taken out of context and OP ignores Edwards' digs at Hillary |
stevenleser |
May-08-08 07:42 AM |
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Maybe, but isn't it Obama that should push his agenda? |
LibFromWV |
May-08-08 08:47 AM |
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Welcome back, Mags. |
NJSecularist |
May-07-08 06:54 PM |
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thank you. |
Mags |
May-07-08 06:56 PM |
#31 |
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I hate it when they let a tombstoned poster back in. |
last1standing |
May-07-08 06:54 PM |
#28 |
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I was tombstoned? Didn't know it. It's ok to ignore me, I ignore you. not a problem |
Mags |
May-07-08 06:56 PM |
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Ahh, I see that unity is in full swing as always... |
WillyToad |
May-08-08 06:10 PM |
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I don't watch a lot of TV but I did catch her |
JoFerret |
May-07-08 07:10 PM |
#56 |
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Keep using Repuke frames, as she has been doing since February |
eridani |
May-08-08 08:40 AM |
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Crap talking points from Hillary's failed GOP-style campaign |
nichomachus |
May-07-08 07:38 PM |
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Nicho - I read Edwards' complete statement, it does not have the connotation the OP is giving it. |
stevenleser |
May-08-08 07:47 AM |
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Could EASILY post an oppo thread with THIS quote from the ... |
PassingFair |
May-08-08 08:31 AM |
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why not post a thread on what he said about hillary? |
bambino |
May-08-08 09:56 AM |
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I admit |
progressive25 |
May-07-08 06:49 PM |
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Translation: Make me VP Barack! |
galaxy21 |
May-07-08 06:51 PM |
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Why would Obama want someone who thinks he has no substance? n/t |
PoliticalAmazon |
May-07-08 06:56 PM |
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Please Mr. Edwards endorse Mrs. Clinton |
democracy1st |
May-08-08 06:08 AM |
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Or if not in February or March . . . |
Shae |
May-08-08 08:26 AM |
#167 |
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Then why did you do him the disservice of completely altering the substance of his statements? |
stevenleser |
May-08-08 08:08 AM |
#154 |
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Is he spot on with his criticism of Clinton as "old politics" as well? |
SemiCharmedQuark |
May-07-08 06:54 PM |
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Go to Barackobama.com and read the pdf files of his plans. That isn't substance? |
washingdem |
May-07-08 07:05 PM |
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I agree with Edwards opinion, I've wanted to hear what he will do, not hype |
bluebellbaby |
May-08-08 06:12 AM |
#136 |
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Is all that matters what's on the Internet? |
WinkyDink |
May-08-08 01:36 PM |
#193 |
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Maybe you should do what you chastised others for not doing |
merh |
May-07-08 07:56 PM |
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Edwards is not alone in his thinking. The voting |
lumpy |
May-07-08 08:52 PM |
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I'm totally curious. What substance are you looking for? |
wileedog |
May-07-08 09:56 PM |
#126 |
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Why didn't he endorse Mrs Clinton,shame on him |
democracy1st |
May-08-08 06:06 AM |
#132 |
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A source that uses "Democrat" party? |
mcctatas |
May-07-08 06:50 PM |
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The source is the UK Times |
progressive25 |
May-07-08 06:51 PM |
#11 |
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Then it is spreading... |
mcctatas |
May-07-08 06:53 PM |
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No, it was used by the blogger... The Times story says DemocratIC Party. |
parasim |
May-07-08 07:12 PM |
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So if the source is the UK times, why didn't you LINK to the UK Times? |
brentspeak |
May-07-08 08:00 PM |
#105 |
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Alarmingly enough, I believe that's how the commercial with McCain attributes the name |
PurityOfEssence |
May-07-08 06:58 PM |
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"The Democratic National Committee is responsible for the content of this advertising." |
soonerhoosier |
May-08-08 09:18 AM |
#179 |
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Flyshit in the mayo |
lumpy |
May-07-08 08:57 PM |
#119 |
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... |
mcctatas |
May-07-08 10:27 PM |
#127 |
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You can promise change... |
Indydem |
May-07-08 06:50 PM |
#6 |
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You mean the twice also-ran/VP loser guy? |
lojasmo |
May-07-08 06:50 PM |
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Don't forget IWR SPONSOR and cheerleader. |
PassingFair |
May-08-08 08:28 AM |
#168 |
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"Friendly advice?" |
David__77 |
May-07-08 06:50 PM |
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Hillary has a lot of substance |
skipos |
May-07-08 06:51 PM |
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I'm not |
progressive25 |
May-07-08 06:52 PM |
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Get ye to intrade and make yourself some money then. |
skipos |
May-07-08 07:02 PM |
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manure is a substance..so is plutonium |
SoCalDem |
May-07-08 06:54 PM |
#27 |
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Hillary McCain - Votes you can Xerox |
grassfed |
May-07-08 07:23 PM |
#66 |
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If Edwards is not going to endorse he needs to STFU. |
ShortnFiery |
May-07-08 06:52 PM |
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A pot of water on your fire. |
lumpy |
May-07-08 09:00 PM |
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Share the full quote. You completely misrepresented what he said. |
gcomeau |
May-07-08 06:52 PM |
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Thank you! I was looking for the whole quote! |
SemiCharmedQuark |
May-07-08 06:53 PM |
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You beat me to it...an Obama-hating blogger taking things WAY out of context |
CakeGrrl |
May-07-08 06:56 PM |
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Thanks for posting this. You beat me to it. |
Cant trust em |
May-07-08 06:57 PM |
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Thank you. Context is everything. |
Shakespeare |
May-07-08 06:57 PM |
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Thank you for posting the whole quote. I think the unbolded part at the end |
Peace Patriot |
May-07-08 08:01 PM |
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Yup. Edwards and Kucinich each espoused views that earned them... |
tledford |
May-07-08 08:19 PM |
#113 |
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I honestly think he's not going to be permitted. |
grasswire |
May-07-08 09:31 PM |
#124 |
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So, basically, you're saying that Charles Manson was correct |
Clark2008 |
May-08-08 07:37 AM |
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I think he's serious about finding a different way of doing things. |
lumberjack_jeff |
May-08-08 01:13 PM |
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Absolutely correct. The OP is completely misleading. Edwards clearly likes Obama... |
stevenleser |
May-08-08 07:51 AM |
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If you link to the actual story, not just some dude's blog, you see the real quote |
Bucky |
May-07-08 06:52 PM |
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Obama had the 'substance' to get his hands dirty for his community |
babylonsister |
May-07-08 06:53 PM |
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Can I sell you some ocean front property in Minnesota? Get real....... |
Darth_Kitten |
May-07-08 07:47 PM |
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If you mean getting |
edwardsguy |
May-08-08 09:43 AM |
#180 |
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What tripe. "joins them in their non-committal stance" Who is this shitty writer? |
BushDespiser12 |
May-07-08 06:53 PM |
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agreed....and Edwards is a good man |
ElsewheresDaughter |
May-07-08 06:53 PM |
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No offense to Edwards, but Obama seems to be doing pretty darn well |
stahbrett |
May-07-08 06:53 PM |
#21 |
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how "nice" of him to speak up now.. |
SoCalDem |
May-07-08 06:54 PM |
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These comments were made several days ago |
brentspeak |
May-07-08 07:26 PM |
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I really don't think this blog is a credible source |
Juniperx |
May-07-08 06:54 PM |
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I don't buy it either - they claimed Kennedy was wavering on Obama a few days ago - |
blm |
May-07-08 07:04 PM |
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You would be right to think that. This is not at all what was said. Here are links |
stevenleser |
May-08-08 08:09 AM |
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John Edwards is from my area of the state of North Carolina. |
Jamastiene |
May-07-08 06:54 PM |
#25 |
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He would have made a great pres |
progressive25 |
May-07-08 06:56 PM |
#29 |
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"Democrat party elite"???? |
tnlefty |
May-07-08 06:57 PM |
#35 |
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LOL Edwards telling someone else to be strong! |
dcindian |
May-07-08 06:58 PM |
#37 |
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LOL gullible Duers buying it hook, line and sinker |
democracyindanger |
May-07-08 07:01 PM |
#39 |
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Maybe if his wife didn't have cancer |
progressive25 |
May-07-08 07:02 PM |
#41 |
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exactly. JE has no platform from which to preach about anything. |
knixphan |
May-07-08 07:06 PM |
#51 |
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Edwards is right on target |
leftofcool |
May-07-08 06:59 PM |
#38 |
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Obama is an empty suit to most people who aren't from his |
mac2 |
May-07-08 07:03 PM |
#44 |
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Like A Predatory-Lending Hedge Fund? |
MannyGoldstein |
May-07-08 07:02 PM |
#40 |
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Very specific on Universal Life as Hillary is |
progressive25 |
May-07-08 07:04 PM |
#45 |
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What Is "Universal Life"?? |
MannyGoldstein |
May-07-08 07:07 PM |
#54 |
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That's a few days old. |
Kittycat |
May-07-08 07:02 PM |
#42 |
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On the other hand, |
varelse |
May-07-08 07:02 PM |
#43 |
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Obama has substance. |
PM7nj |
May-07-08 07:04 PM |
#46 |
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Really. How much will his universal health program cost |
progressive25 |
May-07-08 07:06 PM |
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50-65 billion a year. |
PM7nj |
May-07-08 09:29 PM |
#123 |
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The plans of all three "top tier" candidates are worthless, not being single payer |
eridani |
May-08-08 09:00 AM |
#177 |
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He had "substance" when he ran for Senator but we saw little of it against Bush |
mac2 |
May-07-08 07:07 PM |
#55 |
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Specifics on Univeral Health Please? |
progressive25 |
May-07-08 07:11 PM |
#57 |
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Obama substance: Iraq will be a disaster.....Edwards substance: Yeah, I think we should invade |
hulka38 |
May-07-08 07:05 PM |
#48 |
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Howard Dean and Edwards said that prior to Obama even |
mac2 |
May-07-08 07:11 PM |
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That BLOG is quoting an ARTICLE that is quoting Edwards from BEFORE the May 6 Election. Sorry. |
berni_mccoy |
May-07-08 07:06 PM |
#52 |
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In the article itself, Edwards says "Obama needs to SHOW more substance IN his rhetoric" |
Bucky |
May-07-08 07:14 PM |
#63 |
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He is not the only one saying this... Obama needs to talk more about the issues. eom |
dogday |
May-07-08 07:07 PM |
#53 |
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Because John McCain will say it too. |
progressive25 |
May-07-08 07:13 PM |
#62 |
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Pot meet kettle? |
Truth Hurts A Lot |
May-07-08 07:11 PM |
#59 |
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Coming from Edwards. LMAO |
TheDonkey |
May-07-08 07:12 PM |
#60 |
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Pot, kettle, black. |
tritsofme |
May-07-08 07:20 PM |
#64 |
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One of those "Democrat Party"-talking bloggers, huh? |
parasim |
May-07-08 07:23 PM |
#65 |
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Real link for those who want the whole story |
TragedyandHope |
May-07-08 07:24 PM |
#67 |
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Sorry, but Obama has more substance than Edwards |
karynnj |
May-07-08 07:27 PM |
#69 |
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Agreed! I never saw a whole lot of substance to Edwards |
4_Legs_Good |
May-07-08 07:30 PM |
#71 |
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So when Edwards applauded Obama as someone who "really wants to bring about serious change" |
brentspeak |
May-07-08 07:32 PM |
#74 |
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Saying Obama has MORE, does not mean Edwards has NONE |
karynnj |
May-07-08 07:36 PM |
#79 |
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I didn't say he had NO substance I said Obama had MORE |
karynnj |
May-07-08 08:15 PM |
#110 |
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Edwards. A one term Senator and failed VP candidate. |
bunnies |
May-07-08 07:28 PM |
#70 |
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Not so suddenly, you're clueless |
brentspeak |
May-07-08 07:35 PM |
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Im not clueless. How jackasslike of you to say so. |
bunnies |
May-07-08 07:40 PM |
#84 |
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So, you didn't even read the blog which the OP excerpted from? |
brentspeak |
May-07-08 07:42 PM |
#87 |
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reading some 'blog' doesnt change my original point, which you are avoiding. |
bunnies |
May-07-08 07:45 PM |
#91 |
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Talk about the pot calling the kettle black. |
screembloodymurder |
May-07-08 07:30 PM |
#72 |
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Showing off how much you listen to Rush and Hannity? |
brentspeak |
May-07-08 07:35 PM |
#77 |
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My main criticism of Obama as well.... |
DemExpat |
May-07-08 07:32 PM |
#73 |
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I am so tired of hearing this crap, maybe if Edwards had translated his plans |
oviedodem |
May-07-08 07:33 PM |
#75 |
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Sigh edwards |
Egnever |
May-07-08 07:35 PM |
#76 |
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Oh, how typically childish...... |
Darth_Kitten |
May-07-08 07:39 PM |
#83 |
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you mean like voting for the IWR? |
Egnever |
May-07-08 07:40 PM |
#85 |
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Edwards voted not to fund it afterward - |
waiting for hope |
May-08-08 07:28 AM |
#139 |
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So, is the implication that Edwards is PART of this dreaded "elite"? |
impeachdubya |
May-07-08 07:36 PM |
#78 |
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Well I'll be gobsmacked... |
mcctatas |
May-07-08 07:37 PM |
#80 |
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Exactly, And the OP is basically flamebaiting |
brentspeak |
May-07-08 07:45 PM |
#93 |
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...and Edwards' substance was...what, exactly? |
Elrond Hubbard |
May-07-08 07:39 PM |
#82 |
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Courage to take a REAL stand? Not being an empty suit who takes his ideas from others? |
Darth_Kitten |
May-07-08 07:43 PM |
#88 |
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Did he develop this concern all along, or only when it became politically convenient? |
Elrond Hubbard |
May-07-08 08:53 PM |
#117 |
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Yeah, he took a real stand alright: Gung ho for a catastrophic |
cali |
May-08-08 05:57 AM |
#129 |
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LOL, lack of substance is what killed him. |
Bensthename |
May-07-08 07:40 PM |
#86 |
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LOL....why does everybody question Obama's character but not Edwards? |
Darth_Kitten |
May-07-08 07:45 PM |
#92 |
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That is his only weakness they are trying to capitalize on. |
Bensthename |
May-07-08 07:48 PM |
#96 |
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How did Edwards "substance" work out for him in 2004 and 2008? |
Bleachers7 |
May-07-08 07:44 PM |
#89 |
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Ok, maybe you're right: Edwards was WRONG to say that Obama "really does want...serious change" |
brentspeak |
May-07-08 07:50 PM |
#99 |
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LOL.......Why was Obama always Edward's little echo in most of the debates? |
Darth_Kitten |
May-07-08 07:51 PM |
#100 |
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Fuck him, He was my first choice. But then he didn't have the |
Laura PackYourBags |
May-07-08 07:47 PM |
#94 |
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Yeah. Right. |
Darth_Kitten |
May-07-08 07:48 PM |
#97 |
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Ha! The attacks on Edwards right on time, I see...LOL |
DemGa |
May-07-08 07:49 PM |
#98 |
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Well, don't pop their balloons........ |
Darth_Kitten |
May-07-08 07:52 PM |
#101 |
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And who is he to talk? Obama has already been way more successful than he ever has. |
pointsoflight |
May-07-08 07:53 PM |
#102 |
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A brilliantly-backed-up argument. Chock full of persuasive language and details. |
brentspeak |
May-07-08 07:59 PM |
#104 |
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Not true until Obama ran for the Senate. |
mac2 |
May-08-08 08:17 AM |
#159 |
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Just an aside- |
countingbluecars |
May-07-08 08:01 PM |
#106 |
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That was a while ago. Who knows what he thinks now. |
NC_Nurse |
May-07-08 08:02 PM |
#108 |
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Jupiter Jump, what does fmr.-Senator Edwards want.... |
whistler162 |
May-07-08 08:02 PM |
#109 |
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Another Rush Limbaugh secret agent? |
brentspeak |
May-07-08 08:16 PM |
#111 |
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K&R |
blues90 |
May-07-08 08:19 PM |
#112 |
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Your post manages to belittle both... |
dchill |
May-07-08 08:24 PM |
#114 |
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No pandering elimination of the gas tax for the summer |
dmordue |
May-07-08 08:44 PM |
#115 |
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There's nothing "progressive" about the OP..... |
scheming daemons |
May-07-08 08:55 PM |
#118 |
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Edwards is irrelevant. |
HousePainter |
May-07-08 09:14 PM |
#121 |
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I guess he is relevant enough. Hence the article. And the shit that is flying on the DU! |
Inspired |
May-08-08 05:29 AM |
#128 |
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He IS relevant. OP misquoted him and missed the entire bent of the statement |
stevenleser |
May-08-08 08:06 AM |
#153 |
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I guess Edwards will not be the VP. I don't like him anymore. |
Lady-Damai |
May-07-08 09:18 PM |
#122 |
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Not new. Also article/blogger incorrectly identify Edwards as a superdelegate. He isn't. nt |
Garbo 2004 |
May-07-08 09:42 PM |
#125 |
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Hey Obots! Time to throw Edwards under the bus if you haven't already! |
Freedom Train |
May-08-08 06:01 AM |
#130 |
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OP misquoted him. Edwards remarks were much more complimentary of Obama than Hillary |
stevenleser |
May-08-08 08:04 AM |
#152 |
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Please Mr. Edwards endorse Mrs. Clinton |
democracy1st |
May-08-08 06:05 AM |
#131 |
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Obama: junk food candidate |
OzarkDem |
May-08-08 06:09 AM |
#134 |
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We should. |
Clark2008 |
May-08-08 07:43 AM |
#145 |
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lol @ junk food candidate, that is so true. |
annie1 |
May-08-08 08:19 AM |
#160 |
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His fans have had months to tell us why we should vote for him. Instead, they smeared Hillary. |
Perry Logan |
May-08-08 06:11 AM |
#135 |
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He is full of it |
dansolo |
May-08-08 06:14 AM |
#137 |
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Edwards nailed it. n/t |
LWolf |
May-08-08 06:32 AM |
#138 |
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I agree, because Edwards did not say what the OP claims he did. He likes Obama... |
stevenleser |
May-08-08 08:11 AM |
#156 |
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So, are you saying Edwards DIDN'T say |
LWolf |
May-08-08 11:12 PM |
#195 |
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Pot... meet Kettle. |
Clark2008 |
May-08-08 07:31 AM |
#140 |
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i agree |
Fabio |
May-08-08 08:00 AM |
#151 |
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I suggest he get his ears cleaned amd eyes checked. |
tokenlib |
May-08-08 07:31 AM |
#141 |
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Obama's position papers are remiss and filled with holes |
progressive25 |
May-08-08 07:49 AM |
#147 |
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You have no credibility. You misquoted Edwards and took some words out of context *PLONK* |
stevenleser |
May-08-08 08:00 AM |
#150 |
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Speak to the facts |
progressive25 |
May-08-08 08:19 AM |
#161 |
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Isn't it interesting how the administration can't seem to run |
mac2 |
May-08-08 08:19 AM |
#162 |
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The big picture is not detailed but filled with hope and change. |
mac2 |
May-08-08 08:21 AM |
#164 |
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I smell sour grapes. Edwards realizes he should have stayed in. nt |
Vinca |
May-08-08 07:33 AM |
#142 |
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Vinca - the OP misquotes Edwards,out of context and ignores Edward's digs at Hillary |
stevenleser |
May-08-08 07:54 AM |
#149 |
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Thanks. I should have taken the time to read the entire piece. |
Vinca |
May-08-08 08:12 AM |
#158 |
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No problem, it happens. And tell "ignored" that I dont debate with people who use those tactics. |
stevenleser |
May-08-08 08:22 AM |
#165 |
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Address Obama's lack of substance and specifics |
progressive25 |
May-08-08 08:21 AM |
#163 |
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'needs more substance, but at least he's a good symbol cuz he's black'. |
annie1 |
May-08-08 08:12 AM |
#157 |
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Edward Addresses the Obvious and Obama Supporters |
progressive25 |
May-08-08 08:24 AM |
#166 |
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I have to agre- this is my main gripe also |
Marrah_G |
May-08-08 08:44 AM |
#171 |
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K&R |
cricket08 |
May-08-08 08:52 AM |
#173 |
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The hell with edwards |
Butch350 |
May-08-08 08:53 AM |
#174 |
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He is right. He does. We have gotten side-tracked in a media circus |
debbierlus |
May-08-08 09:00 AM |
#176 |
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When the presstitutes in the M$M harp on obscure religious dudes and old land deals.. |
truebrit71 |
May-08-08 09:03 AM |
#178 |
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Take it as constructive criticism |
PeterU |
May-08-08 09:46 AM |
#181 |
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Similar to gore and others |
PATRICK |
May-08-08 09:54 AM |
#182 |
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THe biggest empty suit in politics complains that Obama needs substance?!?!?! |
Milo_Bloom |
May-08-08 09:56 AM |
#184 |
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Oh yeah, the wise old statesman knows. |
Xap |
May-08-08 10:06 AM |
#185 |
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Everything Obama proposes is subject to approval |
Kesaco |
May-08-08 01:18 PM |
#187 |
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get used to it, he's the nominee |
spanone |
May-08-08 01:19 PM |
#188 |
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More substance? Like proof of sound judgements with votes while in office |
madmunchie |
May-08-08 01:21 PM |
#189 |
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THE OP IS A DAMN LIE: EDWARDS QUOTE |
uponit7771 |
May-08-08 01:21 PM |
#190 |
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Uh... you do know he called Clinton the candidate for the status quo, right? |
redqueen |
May-08-08 01:23 PM |
#191 |
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Thank you senator Edwards!!! |
Beacool |
May-08-08 01:34 PM |
#192 |
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