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86. Yeah, I'll thank hilary the next time
I see her. I'll tell her I'm one of those New York Obama supporters who was hoping it would be anybody but her after she voted for the IWR without reading the 90 page NIE.. going against the wishes of her Democratic Voters.

I'll tell her how happy I am that her arrogance led to her downfall and actually helped the chance for our country to do a 180.
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  -Strategically, what was Hillary's biggest mistake? galaxy21  May-07-08 04:57 PM   #0 
  - Running.  Shakespeare   May-07-08 04:59 PM   #1 
  - Ceding the change meme to someone else  SoonerPride   May-07-08 05:00 PM   #2 
  - Right and Going Negative is the Old Way, not Change. Also Going Negative =/= Strong.  patrice   May-07-08 05:10 PM   #21 
     - Going negative helped her win Ohio and Texas...  galaxy21   May-07-08 05:16 PM   #29 
        - Some people like it. Others don't, they're tired of it. nt  patrice   May-07-08 05:20 PM   #38 
        - She lost Texas.  lojasmo   May-07-08 06:43 PM   #74 
        - rush limpbaughs helped her too...  zidzi   May-07-08 07:44 PM   #84 
  - Treating the primary campaign like it was a coronation until it was too late  CTD   May-07-08 05:01 PM   # 
  - This response gets my vote!  kwenu   May-07-08 05:08 PM   #17 
  - I was for her and then surprised by the arrogance I encountered, went looking elsewhere, came back,  patrice   May-07-08 05:17 PM   #33 
  - Agree  Stagecoach   May-07-08 06:22 PM   #69 
  - Yeah, I'll thank hilary the next time  zidzi   May-07-08 07:50 PM   #86 
  - Telling tales  Arrowhead2k1   May-07-08 05:01 PM   #3 
  - Hubris. That is all.  anigbrowl   May-07-08 05:01 PM   #4 
  - Becoming a candidate.  flvegan   May-07-08 05:01 PM   #5 
  - Dio your need a roadmap or a list of Youtube clips to resolve this?  DMorgan   May-07-08 05:02 PM   #6 
  - Mocking Party Base  otohara   May-07-08 05:02 PM   #7 
  - White, Progressive Men?  Crisco   May-07-08 05:03 PM   #11 
     - Well I Come From Caucus State  otohara   May-07-08 05:12 PM   #23 
  - Ignoring the caucus states  KingFlorez   May-07-08 05:02 PM   #8 
  - Not being organized for the caucuses  kennetha   May-07-08 05:02 PM   #9 
  - Agree. Clinton advisors believed their own hype that Super Tues would do it  Jersey Devil   May-07-08 05:15 PM   #28 
  - Ceding the caucus states.  Pirate Smile   May-07-08 05:02 PM   #10 
  - overlooking little states was why Guilini failed  galaxy21   May-07-08 05:03 PM   # 
  - Pimping out Bill.  tridim   May-07-08 05:03 PM   #12 
  - And run his mouth in "Southern Strategy" ... wooing rural white, potentially racist voters.  ShortnFiery   May-07-08 05:16 PM   #30 
     - They mistake "the Third Way" for prostituting yourself to the oppressors  patrice   May-07-08 05:33 PM   #47 
  - I agree. Not planning for after Feb. 5th. And, of course, "Shame on you, Barack Obama".  Diane R   May-07-08 05:03 PM   #13 
  - the run up to super tuesday... her original campaign manager F'd her  Texas Hill Country   May-07-08 05:03 PM   #14 
  - Failure to organize in smaller caucus states, especially in February post-Super Tuesday.  SteppingRazor   May-07-08 05:04 PM   #15 
  - Tactically, yes, she should've hammered Obama with negs earlier. But strategically speaking...  Bucky   May-07-08 05:06 PM   #16 
  - 1. Failing to organize for caucus states  theboss   May-07-08 05:08 PM   #18 
  - "She would have probably one" what?  dchill   May-07-08 05:08 PM   #19 
  - Pointing in the crowd, dropping her jaw and bugging her eyes.  Henryman   May-07-08 05:08 PM   #20 
  - Hiring Karl Rove's twin brother Mark Penn  newmajority   May-07-08 05:10 PM   #22 
  - Exactly  Silent Tristero   May-07-08 05:40 PM   #55 
  - Losing Iowa  gravity   May-07-08 05:12 PM   #24 
  - I'd say that's actually what ended the Edwards campaign. n/t  SteppingRazor   May-07-08 05:14 PM   #26 
  - True  gravity   May-07-08 05:19 PM   #36 
     - He had kinda put all his eggs in the Iowa basket. But to be fair, I think that was his only option.  SteppingRazor   May-07-08 05:24 PM   #40 
  - That's true too. nt  Truth Hurts A Lot   May-07-08 06:42 PM   #73 
  - She ran a General Election strategy suited for a 1996 campaign + (lack of) charisma  nomorewhopper   May-07-08 05:13 PM   #25 
  - Both her self-righteous nature and massive ego.  ShortnFiery   May-07-08 05:14 PM   #27 
  - Trying to project her voice  libodem   May-07-08 05:17 PM   #31 
  - Occassionally yelling is OK, but last nights speech was a good example,  DB1   May-07-08 05:22 PM   #39 
  - Mark Penn  Stephanie   May-07-08 05:17 PM   #32 
  - There were so many  nichomachus   May-07-08 05:18 PM   #34 
  - hiring mark penn  YDogg   May-07-08 05:18 PM   #35 
  - She waited too long to get deeply involved in Iowa.  rinsd   May-07-08 05:19 PM   #37 
  - It's almost impossible to say because her strengths and weaknesses blur  JVS   May-07-08 05:26 PM   #41 
  - Bill.  cliffordu   May-07-08 05:27 PM   #42 
  - IWR  Growler   May-07-08 05:30 PM   #43 
  - I Second That Emotion  DrFunkenstein   May-07-08 05:43 PM   #57 
  - Good point.  wildeyed   May-07-08 07:40 PM   #80 
  - Absolutely. nt  elizm   May-07-08 05:44 PM   #59 
  - She never really demonstrated her respect for our understanding of the whole IWR  patrice   May-07-08 05:49 PM   #60 
  - when she conspired with Granholm, Levin & the Florida gang  SoCalDem   May-07-08 05:31 PM   #44 
  - When from the beginning she tried to be the hawkiest hawk around  Phoebe Loosinhouse   May-07-08 05:39 PM   #54 
  - It's the war, stupid.  LucyParsons   May-07-08 05:31 PM   #45 
  - The assumption of winning on Super Tuesday, then going negative and alienating voters  TragedyandHope   May-07-08 05:32 PM   #46 
  - Presuming she was inevitable.  BattyDem   May-07-08 05:33 PM   #48 
  - Acting Republican.  Lucky 13   May-07-08 05:34 PM   #49 
  - WRONG. Hillary killed her own campaign by using Rove tactics....  PoliticalAmazon   May-07-08 05:34 PM   #50 
  - Having no Plan B...  graycem   May-07-08 05:35 PM   #51 
  - believing she was inevitable, shitting on Obama supporters...  bunnies   May-07-08 05:36 PM   #52 
  - Overconfidence - putting all her eggs in one basket - labelled SuperTuesday  karynnj   May-07-08 05:38 PM   #53 
  - Fuck rush the ass boil limpbaughs  zidzi   May-07-08 05:40 PM   #56 
  - IWR, Kyl-Lieberman, war war war, lie lie lie  sandnsea   May-07-08 05:43 PM   #58 
  - Hiring an obviously shitty staff.  dbmk   May-07-08 05:52 PM   #61 
  - Acting like a bitch  ramapo   May-07-08 05:54 PM   #62 
  - She went in the race with high name recognition and high negatives.  davsand   May-07-08 06:13 PM   #68 
  - Deciding that she needed to be someone she is not.  JBoy   May-07-08 05:56 PM   #63 
  - Strategically? believing her own publicity  intaglio   May-07-08 05:59 PM   #64 
  - Disrespecting the black vote... largely Bill's fault, but I assume they discussed strategy  Levgreee   May-07-08 06:00 PM   #65 
  - From the beginning......  Exilednight   May-07-08 06:03 PM   #66 
  - Selling the same ol' same ol'.  Orsino   May-07-08 06:06 PM   #67 
  - Voting for the IWR and not speaking out strongly against the war years ago.  BullGooseLoony   May-07-08 06:30 PM   #70 
  - There are a few...  Aya Reiko   May-07-08 06:37 PM   #71 
  - Last year, she should have fought tooth and nail to make sure FL & MI  Truth Hurts A Lot   May-07-08 06:40 PM   #72 
  - I think Obama would have won Michigan, actually  galaxy21   May-07-08 06:47 PM   #77 
  - She shouldn't have done a deal with MI and FL to take those votes.  last1standing   May-07-08 07:10 PM   #79 
  - Already mentioned, but hubris.  Clear Blue Sky   May-07-08 06:43 PM   #75 
  - While concentrating on Ohio & Texas after Super Tuesday....  Stagecoach   May-07-08 06:46 PM   #76 
  - You're completely wrong on that.  last1standing   May-07-08 06:53 PM   #78 
  - going racist, underestimating Obama, believing her own hype, no plan after Feb. 5th.  Pisces   May-07-08 07:41 PM   #81 
  - 1. Going negative at all. She'd have had this in the bag if she had  Occam Bandage   May-07-08 07:42 PM   #82 
  - Inevitability? mark penn?  zidzi   May-07-08 07:43 PM   #83 
  - voting for the AUFM  abburdlen   May-07-08 07:46 PM   #85 
 

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