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bigtree Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-08-08 06:53 AM
Response to Reply #152
159. mostly just frustrated, anxious folks,
Edited on Thu May-08-08 06:54 AM by bigtree
I imagine they'll be more sedate about the next primary contest after watching this one run its course without all of the dire predictions of 'damage' to the party coming to pass.

I recommend Will Pitt's post today . . .


This long primary race is a blessing. A true gift to the country. Thank you, Hillary. Seriously.
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  -So, you're upset that Hillary won't just lay down before the final bell? bigtree  May-07-08 12:33 PM   #0 
  - No, kos is upset, the rest just follow.  The_Casual_Observer   May-07-08 12:34 PM   #1 
  - Kos...  Juniperx   May-07-08 12:37 PM   #7 
  - kos is a former repuke that became a dem for cash.  Texas Hill Country   May-07-08 12:43 PM   #17 
  - I'm just sick of him, personally  Juniperx   May-07-08 12:46 PM   #27 
  - Uh, there is a good reason for Bill and Hillary to drop out  skipos   May-07-08 12:47 PM   #30 
  - Rhetoric gets us nowhere  Juniperx   May-07-08 12:52 PM   #37 
  - As Maddow said, there hasn't been a clear road to victory for Hillary for....  PoliticalAmazon   May-07-08 01:45 PM   #83 
     - waiting for Iran strike and response when she'll appear Butch  grassfed   May-07-08 02:07 PM   #106 
  - Kos  Harvey Korman   May-07-08 12:55 PM   #39 
  - I'm pissed off at Kos  Blue_In_AK   May-07-08 12:48 PM   #33 
  - nt  Rob Gregory Browne   May-07-08 01:13 PM   #54 
  - I am happy that Kos is upset  Lilith Velkor   May-07-08 01:58 PM   #97 
  - Proud to be the first to rec this!  Juniperx   May-07-08 12:36 PM   #2 
  - "The only thing hurting the party now is the incessant cry baby routine."  susankh4   May-07-08 04:39 PM   #152 
     - mostly just frustrated, anxious folks,  bigtree   May-08-08 06:53 AM   #159 
        - Yeah. I know.  susankh4   May-08-08 07:40 AM   #160 
  - No, because now she is talking about going beyond the end of the Primaries again...  LakeSamish706   May-07-08 12:36 PM   #3 
  - So the fuck what?  Juniperx   May-07-08 12:38 PM   #8 
  - No, but it might affect November  SoonerPride   May-07-08 12:38 PM   #10 
     - Oh no it will not  Juniperx   May-07-08 12:44 PM   #22 
  - that's just talk  bigtree   May-07-08 12:40 PM   #14 
     - Who has to pay her back 12 million????  Tinksrival   May-07-08 01:39 PM   #76 
        - whatever. If you haven't donated to her, then you have no real say in what she does with the money  bigtree   May-07-08 02:06 PM   #105 
           - She has no money and  Tinksrival   May-07-08 04:47 PM   #153 
  - I'm not upset by it in the least. Let's keep fighting. We'll keep winning.  BlooInBloo   May-07-08 12:36 PM   #4 
  - not in the least she can stay as long as she likes  Egnever   May-07-08 12:36 PM   #5 
  - Hah! Beat you!  BlooInBloo   May-07-08 12:37 PM   #6 
     - damn you Obama bot!  Egnever   May-07-08 12:44 PM   #21 
        - :))  BlooInBloo   May-07-08 12:46 PM   #26 
  - Actually... she's become a living breathing parody of herself.... so I say... STAY IN  scheming daemons   May-07-08 12:38 PM   #9 
  - see, this just isn't about the destruction of one of these candidates, for me  bigtree   May-07-08 12:43 PM   # 
     - Nor is it for me. In order to elect the best candidate, we have to fight until the others quit...  BlooInBloo   May-07-08 12:44 PM   #23 
        - yep  bigtree   May-07-08 12:50 PM   #36 
  - I look forward to this campaign going forward  Umbram   May-07-08 12:38 PM   #11 
  - Even with FL & MI she has to win 75% of the remaining delegates.  Sentinel Chicken   May-07-08 12:39 PM   #12 
  - I'm dedicated to effectively completing the three remaining weeks of the contest  bigtree   May-07-08 12:42 PM   #15 
  - I see we are at Defcon-2 again  lapfog_1   May-07-08 12:40 PM   #13 
  - I don't think anyone should be upset  alcibiades_mystery   May-07-08 12:42 PM   #16 
  - enough with the ridicule of supporters. there is no 'sinking ship'  bigtree   May-07-08 12:55 PM   #38 
  - The final bell rang weeks ago  bowens43   May-07-08 12:43 PM   #18 
  - I think many of the voters in the upcoming states, and those who've voted in between  bigtree   May-07-08 12:44 PM   #24 
  - I just want Hillary and Obama to aim their guns at McBush, not each other.  muntrv   May-07-08 12:43 PM   #19 
  - I'm not looking forward to more contests between Hillary and Obama, it's OVER.  Arrowhead2k1   May-07-08 12:43 PM   #20 
  - The problem is that the final bell sounded yesterday.  olkaz   May-07-08 12:44 PM   #25 
  - actually, there are voters still waiting to weigh in.  bigtree   May-07-08 12:46 PM   #28 
  - Yes there are. Let's keep fighting.  BlooInBloo   May-07-08 12:47 PM   #32 
  - Oh please, stop with this precious voters bullshit  MadHound   May-07-08 04:34 PM   #151 
  - ah another NON donating member who is here just to smear Hillary.  rodeodance   May-07-08 04:26 PM   #150 
  - A fighter who keeps hitting below the belt should not be allowed to stay until the final bell  GoesTo11   May-07-08 12:46 PM   #29 
  - the voters are the referees  bigtree   May-07-08 12:48 PM   #34 
  - I'm not upset that she's staying in the race. I just don't like the divisive way she campaigns.  calmblueocean   May-07-08 12:47 PM   #31 
  - I have similar problems with her rival's campaign.  bigtree   May-07-08 12:49 PM   #35 
     - difference is her rival won  Egnever   May-07-08 01:00 PM   #42 
     - well, according to the rules, he hasn't 'won' the nomination yet  bigtree   May-07-08 01:05 PM   #44 
        - neither has mccain but huckabee had the grace to keep his trap closed  Egnever   May-07-08 01:09 PM   #51 
           - Huckabee didn't get 16 million Americans to vote for him  bigtree   May-07-08 01:12 PM   #53 
              - that somehow justifies trying to tear down the parties percieved nominee?  Egnever   May-07-08 01:26 PM   #64 
                 - ha. Obama's not made of glass.  bigtree   May-07-08 01:29 PM   #67 
                    - so your answer is well since he hasnt officialy been given the nomination  Egnever   May-07-08 01:36 PM   #71 
                       - I thinks the complaints about 'shit throwing' are hyped and, in some cases, hysterical  bigtree   May-07-08 01:38 PM   #75 
                          - precisely bec8uase he is not made of glass  Egnever   May-07-08 01:40 PM   #79 
                             - No, I don't think the nattering over the campaign charges will have any lasting effect.  bigtree   May-07-08 01:44 PM   #82 
                                - obviously you dont  Egnever   May-07-08 01:48 PM   #87 
                                   - no.  bigtree   May-07-08 01:51 PM   #92 
                                      - then why continue to fight between ourselves?  Egnever   May-07-08 01:55 PM   #94 
                                         - because this is about the issues these candidates represent for the voters who've supported them  bigtree   May-07-08 01:58 PM   #95 
                                            - what possition is it you are trying to push exactly?  Egnever   May-07-08 02:06 PM   # 
                                            - recognition of the importance of the upcoming, remaining contests  bigtree   May-07-08 02:08 PM   #108 
                                            - what possition is it you are trying to push exactly?  Egnever   May-07-08 02:06 PM   #103 
                                            - what possition is it you are trying to push exactly?  Egnever   May-07-08 02:06 PM   #104 
     - Give me some specifics.  calmblueocean   May-07-08 01:08 PM   #49 
        - nope. I have no interest at all in going through any of that.  bigtree   May-07-08 01:10 PM   #52 
           - No one ever does.  Radical Activist   May-07-08 01:31 PM   #68 
              - It's not an accusation. You can't have it both ways. You don't want the attacks here.  bigtree   May-07-08 01:36 PM   #73 
  - hilary can do whatever the fuck the wants..she  zidzi   May-07-08 12:56 PM   #40 
  - yeah, yeah  bigtree   May-07-08 12:58 PM   # 
     - Wake the fuck up...you warmongering lovers  zidzi   May-07-08 01:02 PM   #43 
        - Fuck off weasle.  bigtree   May-07-08 01:06 PM   #47 
        - and Obama said NOT to call mcCain a war mongler. So now you just call Dems war monglers  rodeodance   May-07-08 02:13 PM   #110 
  - Although they are hard, contested elections are good in the long run.  cbayer   May-07-08 12:58 PM   #41 
  - yep. What a difference this Democratic primary has made in the national discussion of issues  bigtree   May-07-08 01:14 PM   #56 
  - Exactly! Just because Obama will most likely be our nominee is not a guarantee that  pirhana   May-07-08 01:05 PM   #45 
  - we'll work hard on support for our nominee  bigtree   May-07-08 01:07 PM   #48 
  - I feel sorry for her.  ClayZ   May-07-08 01:06 PM   #46 
  - well, she's said she will work for the nominee if it's not her  bigtree   May-07-08 01:09 PM   #50 
  - The final bell rang long ago. But Clinton has been wearing earplugs. nt  Rob Gregory Browne   May-07-08 01:14 PM   #55 
  - The final bell  Beregond2   May-07-08 01:14 PM   #57 
  - that's not the way our primary contest is set up  bigtree   May-07-08 01:17 PM   #58 
  - Super Delegates say, We will decide  Straight Shooter   May-07-08 01:18 PM   #59 
  - I think voting does satisfy, more than any artificial resolution of this contest would.  bigtree   May-07-08 01:20 PM   #60 
     - I haven't voted for the candidate of my choice since Carter.  Straight Shooter   May-07-08 01:26 PM   #63 
  - She's deaf to the final bell -- it rang long ago.  damntexdem   May-07-08 01:24 PM   #61 
  - sorry, if you can't see she's hurting the party, and just doing this for herself, you're an idiot.  dionysus   May-07-08 01:25 PM   #62 
  - calling folks idiots is not a reasonable starting place for a discussion.  bigtree   May-07-08 01:28 PM   #66 
     - tree, she's hurting the party, can't you see that?  dionysus   May-07-08 02:03 PM   #101 
        - I don't think SHE'S hurting the party  bigtree   May-07-08 02:13 PM   #111 
           - we'll just have to disagree then tree.  dionysus   May-07-08 02:14 PM   #112 
  - Obama deserves the same respect Bill Clinton was given in -92  Radical Activist   May-07-08 01:27 PM   #65 
  - those races weren't anywhere near as close as this one  bigtree   May-07-08 01:32 PM   #69 
  - The winner now is just as clear as the winner then.  Radical Activist   May-07-08 01:38 PM   #74 
     - oh, I can see you've lowered your opinion of her  bigtree   May-07-08 01:48 PM   #86 
        - You sound just as delusional as her speech last night.  Radical Activist   May-07-08 02:34 PM   #121 
           - back to the ridicule  bigtree   May-07-08 02:36 PM   #124 
              - No, I actually had a point, unlike your comment that was  Radical Activist   May-07-08 02:41 PM   #128 
                 - Obama has not achieved the necessary amount of delegates to nominate him  bigtree   May-07-08 02:43 PM   #129 
                    - Neither did Clinton in '92 before everyone else dropped out...  Radical Activist   May-07-08 02:48 PM   #131 
                       - those candidates were easily able to achieve the necessary amount of delegates before the convention  bigtree   May-07-08 02:50 PM   #133 
                          - They did not receive a majority of the delegates before their opponents dropped out.  Radical Activist   May-07-08 02:55 PM   #137 
                             - sure, the other candidates gave over in the end. So what? Not this time.  bigtree   May-07-08 02:58 PM   #139 
                                - Why are the rules different this time?  Radical Activist   May-07-08 03:01 PM   #142 
  - Well, maybe Hillary thinks she doesn't really have to respect Obama because  DMorgan   May-07-08 01:39 PM   #77 
     - I believe she does 'respect' Sen. Obama  bigtree   May-07-08 01:42 PM   #80 
        - If you believe that Hillary "respects" Obama, then WHY does she  DMorgan   May-07-08 01:51 PM   #90 
           - she disagrees with him politically. That type of criticism's not unusual for a sitting senator  bigtree   May-07-08 01:53 PM   #93 
              - Yes, it is very unusual.  Radical Activist   May-07-08 02:35 PM   #123 
                 - this has been a tea party  bigtree   May-07-08 02:40 PM   #127 
                 - So have I and you're wrong.  Radical Activist   May-07-08 02:44 PM   #130 
                    - no. you want to refight the campaign here on this thread.  bigtree   May-07-08 02:48 PM   #132 
                       - Another change in topic. Another distraction. Another failure to back up your argument.  Radical Activist   May-07-08 02:51 PM   #135 
                       - I won't accept your characterizations of her conduct  bigtree   May-07-08 02:57 PM   #138 
                          - But you already did agree with that characterization in post 93.  Radical Activist   May-07-08 02:59 PM   #140 
                       - To prove your biased point, please use some concrete examples  DMorgan   May-07-08 02:54 PM   #136 
                          - no. go fight that petty argument somewhere else, with someone else.  bigtree   May-07-08 03:00 PM   #141 
                             - In other words, YOU HAVE NO EXAMPLES to PROVE your position!................  DMorgan   May-07-08 03:18 PM   #146 
                 - GREAT POST!  DMorgan   May-07-08 02:51 PM   #134 
  - Nice talking points but somehow I don't expect  nadinbrzezinski   May-07-08 01:34 PM   #70 
  - well, she may well be at the disadvantage you describe, but I think this goes on  bigtree   May-07-08 01:40 PM   #78 
     - She has loaned herself 11 million so far  nadinbrzezinski   May-07-08 01:43 PM   #81 
        - so, you think she's conceding. Fine.  bigtree   May-07-08 01:46 PM   #84 
           - go for it... nobody is stopping you, and in fact that will help her retire a huge debt  nadinbrzezinski   May-07-08 01:49 PM   #88 
              - If you read my responses  bigtree   May-07-08 01:51 PM   #91 
                 - RIDICULE?  nadinbrzezinski   May-07-08 01:58 PM   #96 
                    - I don't need any lecturing about who to vote for in November  bigtree   May-07-08 01:59 PM   #99 
                       - Look CHILD... yes at this point you are behaving like one  nadinbrzezinski   May-07-08 02:07 PM   #107 
                          - you are lecturing  bigtree   May-07-08 02:14 PM   #113 
                             - I am an American. I am NOT an OBama Supporter, your first free clue  nadinbrzezinski   May-07-08 03:02 PM   #143 
  - Nope. Thanks for asking though.  madwivoter   May-07-08 01:36 PM   #72 
  - the bell rung. not "waiting" for it to ring. the bitch is she wont get up and shake hands with the  seabeyond   May-07-08 01:46 PM   #85 
  - you know that there are remaining contests and that Sen. Obama hasn't reached 2025 delegates  bigtree   May-07-08 01:50 PM   #89 
  - Yep. it's clear that she's in it to pay herself back the 11 million dollars. It's the Clinton way.  John Q. Citizen   May-07-08 01:59 PM   #98 
  - what a crock  bigtree   May-07-08 02:00 PM   #100 
     - If the primary ends, Sen Clinton and her husband are out 11 million bucks. You  John Q. Citizen   May-07-08 02:05 PM   #102 
        - If you have not donated to her campaign. keep the crap out of it. Just crying to cry--that is you!!  rodeodance   May-07-08 02:15 PM   #115 
           - hey rodeo  bigtree   May-07-08 02:17 PM   #118 
           - nice post bigtree. good on you  rodeodance   May-07-08 04:21 PM   #147 
           - I feel so sorry for poor Sen. Clinton... I bet that 11,000,000 keeps her up worried at night.  John Q. Citizen   May-07-08 05:26 PM   #155 
  - Oh fucking bullshit. This is over and you know it.  The Stranger   May-07-08 02:08 PM   #109 
  - well, I think there will be contests in the remaining states and there will then be a decision  bigtree   May-07-08 02:17 PM   #117 
  - I'm not upset, as long as she lays off the attacks  Obama_for_our_future   May-07-08 02:15 PM   #114 
  - The whole problem with your post is the "who knows" part. We all know. You know.  jsmirman   May-07-08 02:16 PM   #116 
  - well, I can make a pretty good guess after yesterday's contest  bigtree   May-07-08 02:20 PM   #119 
     - Your two sentences contradict each other. And whoopee, people want to feel important  jsmirman   May-07-08 02:37 PM   #125 
     - how would you know what her supporters voted for?  bigtree   May-07-08 02:39 PM   #126 
     - I seldom respond to posters who are so cheap they do not donate to DU,  rodeodance   May-07-08 04:25 PM   #149 
     - I wish there was a rule that to smear Hillary you have to quit being CHEAP and donate to DU  rodeodance   May-07-08 04:24 PM   #148 
     - The "folks in the remaining states" voting for her are ldittoheads.  The Stranger   May-07-08 04:51 PM   #154 
  - This reminds me of Kerry..walking away with $10 million  OKthatsIT   May-07-08 02:32 PM   #120 
  - I'm not humiliated in the least  bigtree   May-07-08 02:35 PM   #122 
  - Nope. I'm just tired of her continual blows below the belt.  Buzz Clik   May-07-08 03:02 PM   #144 
  - Last night WAS the final bell!  GihrenZabi   May-07-08 03:12 PM   #145 
  - I JUST WANNA SCREAM..........  nomaco-10   May-07-08 05:32 PM   #156 
  - You know what? You are right.  Jamastiene   May-07-08 05:34 PM   #157 
  - Not upset just sadden to see a democrat just give her self up to the media as a crazy person.  dcindian   May-07-08 05:38 PM   #158 
 

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