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bigtree Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-07-08 02:40 PM
Response to Reply #123
127. this has been a tea party
I've slogged through a few of these presidential campaigns.
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  -So, you're upset that Hillary won't just lay down before the final bell? bigtree  May-07-08 12:33 PM   #0 
  - No, kos is upset, the rest just follow.  The_Casual_Observer   May-07-08 12:34 PM   #1 
  - Kos...  Juniperx   May-07-08 12:37 PM   #7 
  - kos is a former repuke that became a dem for cash.  Texas Hill Country   May-07-08 12:43 PM   #17 
  - I'm just sick of him, personally  Juniperx   May-07-08 12:46 PM   #27 
  - Uh, there is a good reason for Bill and Hillary to drop out  skipos   May-07-08 12:47 PM   #30 
  - Rhetoric gets us nowhere  Juniperx   May-07-08 12:52 PM   #37 
  - As Maddow said, there hasn't been a clear road to victory for Hillary for....  PoliticalAmazon   May-07-08 01:45 PM   #83 
     - waiting for Iran strike and response when she'll appear Butch  grassfed   May-07-08 02:07 PM   #106 
  - Kos  Harvey Korman   May-07-08 12:55 PM   #39 
  - I'm pissed off at Kos  Blue_In_AK   May-07-08 12:48 PM   #33 
  - nt  Rob Gregory Browne   May-07-08 01:13 PM   #54 
  - I am happy that Kos is upset  Lilith Velkor   May-07-08 01:58 PM   #97 
  - Proud to be the first to rec this!  Juniperx   May-07-08 12:36 PM   #2 
  - "The only thing hurting the party now is the incessant cry baby routine."  susankh4   May-07-08 04:39 PM   #152 
     - mostly just frustrated, anxious folks,  bigtree   May-08-08 06:53 AM   #159 
        - Yeah. I know.  susankh4   May-08-08 07:40 AM   #160 
  - No, because now she is talking about going beyond the end of the Primaries again...  LakeSamish706   May-07-08 12:36 PM   #3 
  - So the fuck what?  Juniperx   May-07-08 12:38 PM   #8 
  - No, but it might affect November  SoonerPride   May-07-08 12:38 PM   #10 
     - Oh no it will not  Juniperx   May-07-08 12:44 PM   #22 
  - that's just talk  bigtree   May-07-08 12:40 PM   #14 
     - Who has to pay her back 12 million????  Tinksrival   May-07-08 01:39 PM   #76 
        - whatever. If you haven't donated to her, then you have no real say in what she does with the money  bigtree   May-07-08 02:06 PM   #105 
           - She has no money and  Tinksrival   May-07-08 04:47 PM   #153 
  - I'm not upset by it in the least. Let's keep fighting. We'll keep winning.  BlooInBloo   May-07-08 12:36 PM   #4 
  - not in the least she can stay as long as she likes  Egnever   May-07-08 12:36 PM   #5 
  - Hah! Beat you!  BlooInBloo   May-07-08 12:37 PM   #6 
     - damn you Obama bot!  Egnever   May-07-08 12:44 PM   #21 
        - :))  BlooInBloo   May-07-08 12:46 PM   #26 
  - Actually... she's become a living breathing parody of herself.... so I say... STAY IN  scheming daemons   May-07-08 12:38 PM   #9 
  - see, this just isn't about the destruction of one of these candidates, for me  bigtree   May-07-08 12:43 PM   # 
     - Nor is it for me. In order to elect the best candidate, we have to fight until the others quit...  BlooInBloo   May-07-08 12:44 PM   #23 
        - yep  bigtree   May-07-08 12:50 PM   #36 
  - I look forward to this campaign going forward  Umbram   May-07-08 12:38 PM   #11 
  - Even with FL & MI she has to win 75% of the remaining delegates.  Sentinel Chicken   May-07-08 12:39 PM   #12 
  - I'm dedicated to effectively completing the three remaining weeks of the contest  bigtree   May-07-08 12:42 PM   #15 
  - I see we are at Defcon-2 again  lapfog_1   May-07-08 12:40 PM   #13 
  - I don't think anyone should be upset  alcibiades_mystery   May-07-08 12:42 PM   #16 
  - enough with the ridicule of supporters. there is no 'sinking ship'  bigtree   May-07-08 12:55 PM   #38 
  - The final bell rang weeks ago  bowens43   May-07-08 12:43 PM   #18 
  - I think many of the voters in the upcoming states, and those who've voted in between  bigtree   May-07-08 12:44 PM   #24 
  - I just want Hillary and Obama to aim their guns at McBush, not each other.  muntrv   May-07-08 12:43 PM   #19 
  - I'm not looking forward to more contests between Hillary and Obama, it's OVER.  Arrowhead2k1   May-07-08 12:43 PM   #20 
  - The problem is that the final bell sounded yesterday.  olkaz   May-07-08 12:44 PM   #25 
  - actually, there are voters still waiting to weigh in.  bigtree   May-07-08 12:46 PM   #28 
  - Yes there are. Let's keep fighting.  BlooInBloo   May-07-08 12:47 PM   #32 
  - Oh please, stop with this precious voters bullshit  MadHound   May-07-08 04:34 PM   #151 
  - ah another NON donating member who is here just to smear Hillary.  rodeodance   May-07-08 04:26 PM   #150 
  - A fighter who keeps hitting below the belt should not be allowed to stay until the final bell  GoesTo11   May-07-08 12:46 PM   #29 
  - the voters are the referees  bigtree   May-07-08 12:48 PM   #34 
  - I'm not upset that she's staying in the race. I just don't like the divisive way she campaigns.  calmblueocean   May-07-08 12:47 PM   #31 
  - I have similar problems with her rival's campaign.  bigtree   May-07-08 12:49 PM   #35 
     - difference is her rival won  Egnever   May-07-08 01:00 PM   #42 
     - well, according to the rules, he hasn't 'won' the nomination yet  bigtree   May-07-08 01:05 PM   #44 
        - neither has mccain but huckabee had the grace to keep his trap closed  Egnever   May-07-08 01:09 PM   #51 
           - Huckabee didn't get 16 million Americans to vote for him  bigtree   May-07-08 01:12 PM   #53 
              - that somehow justifies trying to tear down the parties percieved nominee?  Egnever   May-07-08 01:26 PM   #64 
                 - ha. Obama's not made of glass.  bigtree   May-07-08 01:29 PM   #67 
                    - so your answer is well since he hasnt officialy been given the nomination  Egnever   May-07-08 01:36 PM   #71 
                       - I thinks the complaints about 'shit throwing' are hyped and, in some cases, hysterical  bigtree   May-07-08 01:38 PM   #75 
                          - precisely bec8uase he is not made of glass  Egnever   May-07-08 01:40 PM   #79 
                             - No, I don't think the nattering over the campaign charges will have any lasting effect.  bigtree   May-07-08 01:44 PM   #82 
                                - obviously you dont  Egnever   May-07-08 01:48 PM   #87 
                                   - no.  bigtree   May-07-08 01:51 PM   #92 
                                      - then why continue to fight between ourselves?  Egnever   May-07-08 01:55 PM   #94 
                                         - because this is about the issues these candidates represent for the voters who've supported them  bigtree   May-07-08 01:58 PM   #95 
                                            - what possition is it you are trying to push exactly?  Egnever   May-07-08 02:06 PM   # 
                                            - recognition of the importance of the upcoming, remaining contests  bigtree   May-07-08 02:08 PM   #108 
                                            - what possition is it you are trying to push exactly?  Egnever   May-07-08 02:06 PM   #103 
                                            - what possition is it you are trying to push exactly?  Egnever   May-07-08 02:06 PM   #104 
     - Give me some specifics.  calmblueocean   May-07-08 01:08 PM   #49 
        - nope. I have no interest at all in going through any of that.  bigtree   May-07-08 01:10 PM   #52 
           - No one ever does.  Radical Activist   May-07-08 01:31 PM   #68 
              - It's not an accusation. You can't have it both ways. You don't want the attacks here.  bigtree   May-07-08 01:36 PM   #73 
  - hilary can do whatever the fuck the wants..she  zidzi   May-07-08 12:56 PM   #40 
  - yeah, yeah  bigtree   May-07-08 12:58 PM   # 
     - Wake the fuck warmongering lovers  zidzi   May-07-08 01:02 PM   #43 
        - Fuck off weasle.  bigtree   May-07-08 01:06 PM   #47 
        - and Obama said NOT to call mcCain a war mongler. So now you just call Dems war monglers  rodeodance   May-07-08 02:13 PM   #110 
  - Although they are hard, contested elections are good in the long run.  cbayer   May-07-08 12:58 PM   #41 
  - yep. What a difference this Democratic primary has made in the national discussion of issues  bigtree   May-07-08 01:14 PM   #56 
  - Exactly! Just because Obama will most likely be our nominee is not a guarantee that  pirhana   May-07-08 01:05 PM   #45 
  - we'll work hard on support for our nominee  bigtree   May-07-08 01:07 PM   #48 
  - I feel sorry for her.  ClayZ   May-07-08 01:06 PM   #46 
  - well, she's said she will work for the nominee if it's not her  bigtree   May-07-08 01:09 PM   #50 
  - The final bell rang long ago. But Clinton has been wearing earplugs. nt  Rob Gregory Browne   May-07-08 01:14 PM   #55 
  - The final bell  Beregond2   May-07-08 01:14 PM   #57 
  - that's not the way our primary contest is set up  bigtree   May-07-08 01:17 PM   #58 
  - Super Delegates say, We will decide  Straight Shooter   May-07-08 01:18 PM   #59 
  - I think voting does satisfy, more than any artificial resolution of this contest would.  bigtree   May-07-08 01:20 PM   #60 
     - I haven't voted for the candidate of my choice since Carter.  Straight Shooter   May-07-08 01:26 PM   #63 
  - She's deaf to the final bell -- it rang long ago.  damntexdem   May-07-08 01:24 PM   #61 
  - sorry, if you can't see she's hurting the party, and just doing this for herself, you're an idiot.  dionysus   May-07-08 01:25 PM   #62 
  - calling folks idiots is not a reasonable starting place for a discussion.  bigtree   May-07-08 01:28 PM   #66 
     - tree, she's hurting the party, can't you see that?  dionysus   May-07-08 02:03 PM   #101 
        - I don't think SHE'S hurting the party  bigtree   May-07-08 02:13 PM   #111 
           - we'll just have to disagree then tree.  dionysus   May-07-08 02:14 PM   #112 
  - Obama deserves the same respect Bill Clinton was given in -92  Radical Activist   May-07-08 01:27 PM   #65 
  - those races weren't anywhere near as close as this one  bigtree   May-07-08 01:32 PM   #69 
  - The winner now is just as clear as the winner then.  Radical Activist   May-07-08 01:38 PM   #74 
     - oh, I can see you've lowered your opinion of her  bigtree   May-07-08 01:48 PM   #86 
        - You sound just as delusional as her speech last night.  Radical Activist   May-07-08 02:34 PM   #121 
           - back to the ridicule  bigtree   May-07-08 02:36 PM   #124 
              - No, I actually had a point, unlike your comment that was  Radical Activist   May-07-08 02:41 PM   #128 
                 - Obama has not achieved the necessary amount of delegates to nominate him  bigtree   May-07-08 02:43 PM   #129 
                    - Neither did Clinton in '92 before everyone else dropped out...  Radical Activist   May-07-08 02:48 PM   #131 
                       - those candidates were easily able to achieve the necessary amount of delegates before the convention  bigtree   May-07-08 02:50 PM   #133 
                          - They did not receive a majority of the delegates before their opponents dropped out.  Radical Activist   May-07-08 02:55 PM   #137 
                             - sure, the other candidates gave over in the end. So what? Not this time.  bigtree   May-07-08 02:58 PM   #139 
                                - Why are the rules different this time?  Radical Activist   May-07-08 03:01 PM   #142 
  - Well, maybe Hillary thinks she doesn't really have to respect Obama because  DMorgan   May-07-08 01:39 PM   #77 
     - I believe she does 'respect' Sen. Obama  bigtree   May-07-08 01:42 PM   #80 
        - If you believe that Hillary "respects" Obama, then WHY does she  DMorgan   May-07-08 01:51 PM   #90 
           - she disagrees with him politically. That type of criticism's not unusual for a sitting senator  bigtree   May-07-08 01:53 PM   #93 
              - Yes, it is very unusual.  Radical Activist   May-07-08 02:35 PM   #123 
                 - this has been a tea party  bigtree   May-07-08 02:40 PM   #127 
                 - So have I and you're wrong.  Radical Activist   May-07-08 02:44 PM   #130 
                    - no. you want to refight the campaign here on this thread.  bigtree   May-07-08 02:48 PM   #132 
                       - Another change in topic. Another distraction. Another failure to back up your argument.  Radical Activist   May-07-08 02:51 PM   #135 
                       - I won't accept your characterizations of her conduct  bigtree   May-07-08 02:57 PM   #138 
                          - But you already did agree with that characterization in post 93.  Radical Activist   May-07-08 02:59 PM   #140 
                       - To prove your biased point, please use some concrete examples  DMorgan   May-07-08 02:54 PM   #136 
                          - no. go fight that petty argument somewhere else, with someone else.  bigtree   May-07-08 03:00 PM   #141 
                             - In other words, YOU HAVE NO EXAMPLES to PROVE your position!................  DMorgan   May-07-08 03:18 PM   #146 
                 - GREAT POST!  DMorgan   May-07-08 02:51 PM   #134 
  - Nice talking points but somehow I don't expect  nadinbrzezinski   May-07-08 01:34 PM   #70 
  - well, she may well be at the disadvantage you describe, but I think this goes on  bigtree   May-07-08 01:40 PM   #78 
     - She has loaned herself 11 million so far  nadinbrzezinski   May-07-08 01:43 PM   #81 
        - so, you think she's conceding. Fine.  bigtree   May-07-08 01:46 PM   #84 
           - go for it... nobody is stopping you, and in fact that will help her retire a huge debt  nadinbrzezinski   May-07-08 01:49 PM   #88 
              - If you read my responses  bigtree   May-07-08 01:51 PM   #91 
                 - RIDICULE?  nadinbrzezinski   May-07-08 01:58 PM   #96 
                    - I don't need any lecturing about who to vote for in November  bigtree   May-07-08 01:59 PM   #99 
                       - Look CHILD... yes at this point you are behaving like one  nadinbrzezinski   May-07-08 02:07 PM   #107 
                          - you are lecturing  bigtree   May-07-08 02:14 PM   #113 
                             - I am an American. I am NOT an OBama Supporter, your first free clue  nadinbrzezinski   May-07-08 03:02 PM   #143 
  - Nope. Thanks for asking though.  madwivoter   May-07-08 01:36 PM   #72 
  - the bell rung. not "waiting" for it to ring. the bitch is she wont get up and shake hands with the  seabeyond   May-07-08 01:46 PM   #85 
  - you know that there are remaining contests and that Sen. Obama hasn't reached 2025 delegates  bigtree   May-07-08 01:50 PM   #89 
  - Yep. it's clear that she's in it to pay herself back the 11 million dollars. It's the Clinton way.  John Q. Citizen   May-07-08 01:59 PM   #98 
  - what a crock  bigtree   May-07-08 02:00 PM   #100 
     - If the primary ends, Sen Clinton and her husband are out 11 million bucks. You  John Q. Citizen   May-07-08 02:05 PM   #102 
        - If you have not donated to her campaign. keep the crap out of it. Just crying to cry--that is you!!  rodeodance   May-07-08 02:15 PM   #115 
           - hey rodeo  bigtree   May-07-08 02:17 PM   #118 
           - nice post bigtree. good on you  rodeodance   May-07-08 04:21 PM   #147 
           - I feel so sorry for poor Sen. Clinton... I bet that 11,000,000 keeps her up worried at night.  John Q. Citizen   May-07-08 05:26 PM   #155 
  - Oh fucking bullshit. This is over and you know it.  The Stranger   May-07-08 02:08 PM   #109 
  - well, I think there will be contests in the remaining states and there will then be a decision  bigtree   May-07-08 02:17 PM   #117 
  - I'm not upset, as long as she lays off the attacks  Obama_for_our_future   May-07-08 02:15 PM   #114 
  - The whole problem with your post is the "who knows" part. We all know. You know.  jsmirman   May-07-08 02:16 PM   #116 
  - well, I can make a pretty good guess after yesterday's contest  bigtree   May-07-08 02:20 PM   #119 
     - Your two sentences contradict each other. And whoopee, people want to feel important  jsmirman   May-07-08 02:37 PM   #125 
     - how would you know what her supporters voted for?  bigtree   May-07-08 02:39 PM   #126 
     - I seldom respond to posters who are so cheap they do not donate to DU,  rodeodance   May-07-08 04:25 PM   #149 
     - I wish there was a rule that to smear Hillary you have to quit being CHEAP and donate to DU  rodeodance   May-07-08 04:24 PM   #148 
     - The "folks in the remaining states" voting for her are ldittoheads.  The Stranger   May-07-08 04:51 PM   #154 
  - This reminds me of Kerry..walking away with $10 million  OKthatsIT   May-07-08 02:32 PM   #120 
  - I'm not humiliated in the least  bigtree   May-07-08 02:35 PM   #122 
  - Nope. I'm just tired of her continual blows below the belt.  Buzz Clik   May-07-08 03:02 PM   #144 
  - Last night WAS the final bell!  GihrenZabi   May-07-08 03:12 PM   #145 
  - I JUST WANNA SCREAM..........  nomaco-10   May-07-08 05:32 PM   #156 
  - You know what? You are right.  Jamastiene   May-07-08 05:34 PM   #157 
  - Not upset just sadden to see a democrat just give her self up to the media as a crazy person.  dcindian   May-07-08 05:38 PM   #158 

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