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JVS Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-07-08 10:47 AM
Response to Reply #38
42. Look, I doubt you want to hear this, but I'm going to lay it out.
HRC surrogates have recently been stressing that white voters will not support Obama. If Clinton tries to exploit racial division and polarization, this is a scorched earth tactic. The reason is that when she is gone, and it's pretty clear that she's going to be gone soon, a racially polarized Democratic Party is not going to be able to fight John McCain as well as one where this division has not been played on.
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  -Nothing changed last night... MonkeyFunk  May-07-08 10:03 AM   #0 
  - YES she should have quit three months ago  krawhitham   May-07-08 10:05 AM   #1 
  - Lay off. (nt)  Umbram   May-07-08 10:08 AM   #5 
  - Why? It's true (nt)  subsuelo   May-07-08 10:09 AM   #9 
  - But she didn't, so it's irrelevant  nxylas   May-07-08 10:38 AM   #37 
  - From the OP: "There's nothing wrong with her staying in and trying to do that. "  ProSense   May-07-08 10:11 AM   #16 
     - I support Obama, and even I'm not going to disagree with that statement.  Umbram   May-07-08 10:16 AM   #25 
        - "Is it best for the party, maybe not - but she has every damn right to stay in."  ProSense   May-07-08 10:37 AM   #36 
           - Perhaps the nuances of the word 'right' confuse you.  Umbram   May-07-08 10:53 AM   #47 
              - "Is it best for the party, maybe not..." Nothing confusing there. n/t  ProSense   May-07-08 11:02 AM   #55 
                 - Good work, now try and comprehend the WHOLE sentence, all at once. (nt)  Umbram   May-07-08 11:05 AM   #56 
                    - Face it, your comment is Hillary's logic: She can't win, but has every right to continue,  ProSense   May-07-08 11:09 AM   #57 
                       - Logic...  Umbram   May-07-08 11:21 AM   #60 
                          - Logic summary: Hillary comes first. "Is it RIGHT that she"  ProSense   May-07-08 11:36 AM   #62 
                             - Context.  Umbram   May-07-08 11:46 AM   #64 
                                - Well, we completely disagree.  ProSense   May-07-08 11:55 AM   #67 
                                   - Fair enough.  Umbram   May-07-08 11:58 AM   #69 
  - If Hillary had quit 3 months ago,  Frances   May-07-08 10:14 AM   #22 
  - If there hadn't be a Rev. Wright  rocknation   May-07-08 10:22 AM   #28 
  - Absolutely true  Frances   May-07-08 10:26 AM   #33 
     - I suspect that in October  izquierdista   May-07-08 10:52 AM   #46 
  - true if anything  Brundle_Fly   May-07-08 10:37 AM   #35 
  - I agree. I think that this whole thing has been a net gain for the Democrats.  yardwork   May-07-08 10:55 AM   #50 
  - By the second Super Tuesday, she was so far behind  rocknation   May-07-08 10:16 AM   #24 
  - Naw, I don't think so.  VancSouthpaw   May-07-08 06:32 PM   #80 
  - Thank you  Jake3463   May-07-08 10:07 AM   #2 
  - Congrats to both Obama and Clinton  Umbram   May-07-08 10:08 AM   #3 
  - "Frankly, whoever on her staff that approved that button should have been fired."  ProSense   May-07-08 10:08 AM   #4 
  - Deleted message  Name removed   May-07-08 10:08 AM   #6 
  - No need to be obnoxious  MonkeyFunk   May-07-08 10:11 AM   #15 
  - Yup. The fight's on until one side gives up. Keep beating her.  BlooInBloo   May-07-08 10:09 AM   #7 
  - And if no one gives up does it go on past the general election?  dmordue   May-07-08 10:11 AM   # 
  - Do you think she would go for governor?  Boz   May-07-08 10:09 AM   #8 
  - Let's get ready to take back this country.  Tatiana   May-07-08 10:10 AM   #10 
  - Actually? I don't think she should drop out. Seriously.  Occam Bandage   May-07-08 10:10 AM   #11 
  - I'd like to see her as VP  MonkeyFunk   May-07-08 10:13 AM   #18 
     - Agreed. Not just to unify--to expand. She's proven that she can draw on independent groups  Occam Bandage   May-07-08 10:22 AM   #29 
        - She would make a fine VP, but there is a huge problem.  Usrename   May-07-08 10:46 AM   #40 
           - I don't understand  MonkeyFunk   May-07-08 10:47 AM   #41 
           - I think she'd do fine. She's voted with the Democratic party 97% of the time.  Occam Bandage   May-07-08 10:49 AM   #44 
  - Thanks Monkey. It's time for unity.  Katzenkavalier   May-07-08 10:11 AM   #12 
  - I'll echo that --- time to heal, unite, and focus on McSame.  RiverStone   May-07-08 10:54 AM   #49 
  - I Don't Think She'll Drop Out  NeedleCast   May-07-08 10:11 AM   #13 
  - I think she'll stay in for a while  lojasmo   May-07-08 10:11 AM   #14 
  - ah, at last. the non-funky monkey I've loved and missed.  antifaschits   May-07-08 10:12 AM   #17 
  - Agree, I posted a similar thread last night.  janesez   May-07-08 10:13 AM   #19 
  - I agree with your analysis with one caveat  JVS   May-07-08 10:14 AM   #20 
  - I think you  MonkeyFunk   May-07-08 10:41 AM   #38 
     - Look, I doubt you want to hear this, but I'm going to lay it out.  JVS   May-07-08 10:47 AM   #42 
        - well  MonkeyFunk   May-07-08 10:49 AM   #43 
           - I take it, but don't cry foul when people here criticize, denounce, or bash HRC if she pisses on...  JVS   May-07-08 10:51 AM   #45 
  - That is quite nice of you to observe, Unofrtunately I don't think it will happen /nt  still_one   May-07-08 10:14 AM   #21 
  - You're right...  lisa58   May-07-08 10:15 AM   #23 
  - Now that is classy  goclark   May-07-08 10:17 AM   #26 
  - I agree with your analysis of the situation AND the timing.  Harvey Korman   May-07-08 10:19 AM   #27 
  - Thank you n/t  LSK   May-07-08 10:23 AM   #30 
  - The biggest change: MSM  hokies4ever   May-07-08 10:24 AM   #31 
  - Next week...  rucky   May-07-08 10:24 AM   #32 
  - Thanks for that, MonkeyFunk. I appreciate how hard it is when your  NC_Nurse   May-07-08 10:29 AM   #34 
  - Monkey speaks!  Pavlovs DiOgie   May-07-08 10:45 AM   #39 
  - The competition was just too strong for her to pull off the miracle she needed.  Orsino   May-07-08 10:54 AM   #48 
  - This is a very thoughtful post - I appreciate it!  yardwork   May-07-08 10:56 AM   #51 
  - Thanks for the congrats to Sen Obama...  Hepburn   May-07-08 10:57 AM   #52 
  - It will be difficult for a lot of Clinton supporters here  MonkeyFunk   May-07-08 11:30 AM   #61 
     - "The hardest thing to accept is not Clinton's loss, but that you guys will be rewarded for your  janesez   May-07-08 11:38 AM   #63 
     - Just make sure you are comparing the apples to apples  Umbram   May-07-08 11:54 AM   #66 
     - Oh, there have certainly been plenty of pro-Clinton assholes  MonkeyFunk   May-07-08 12:01 PM   #71 
        - Could be.  Umbram   May-07-08 12:08 PM   #74 
     - Ummmmmmmm.....  Hepburn   May-07-08 06:19 PM   #78 
  - You're a good egg, MonkeyFunk.  Turn CO Blue   May-07-08 10:58 AM   #53 
  - Thanks .. K & R for a good post.  DerekJ   May-07-08 11:01 AM   #54 
  - Good post MonkeyFunk  Gore1FL   May-07-08 11:10 AM   #58 
  - You are right  quakerboy   May-07-08 11:12 AM   #59 
  - I agree... If she doesn't drop out, she should change her focus to driving for unity  LVjinx   May-07-08 11:48 AM   #65 
  - The problem is. She can't win. The math isn't there.  BrentTaylor   May-07-08 11:57 AM   #68 
  - Wow.  PassingFair   May-07-08 12:00 PM   #70 
  - She may stay in for the last few contests  MonkeyFunk   May-07-08 12:03 PM   #72 
  - A very gracious post indeed. I never had a problem with her staying in...  faithfulcitizen   May-07-08 12:05 PM   #73 
  - Well  MonkeyFunk   May-07-08 12:32 PM   #75 
     - Yes, and I hope we will see that repaired now  LVjinx   May-07-08 12:57 PM   #76 
        - Which is why I think he may well  MonkeyFunk   May-07-08 01:51 PM   #77 
  - She is still not done yet so Obama Supporters we need to continue to work!  Zachstar   May-07-08 06:21 PM   #79 

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