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Phillycat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-06-08 04:03 PM
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29. He was a STATE SENATOR in a heavily Democratic area.
He would have lost more if he HADN'T come out against the war. God, it's like I'm the only person who remembers further back than 6 months ago.
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  -I don't want to scare you but...these 2 candidates are pretty much the same. janesez  May-06-08 03:46 PM   #0 
  - No and no. They're not pretty much the same. IWR, K-L, etc. No. no. nt  thereismore   May-06-08 03:49 PM   #1 
  - Sigh.  janesez   May-06-08 03:50 PM   #2 
  - Thanks for the post, Janesez. Gives me some hope that this place will  Radio_Lady   May-06-08 03:52 PM   #6 
  - Glad to read a modulated post, Radio Lady.  lumpy   May-06-08 04:56 PM   #90 
  - She was. nt  thereismore   May-06-08 04:05 PM   #34 
  - amazing how people have to be reminded of that little fact. obama couldn't have  niyad   May-06-08 04:51 PM   #84 
  - Obama didn't bother to vote on Kyle-Lieberman.  last1standing   May-06-08 03:57 PM   #19 
  - In the real world of Democrats  leftofcool   May-06-08 03:51 PM   #3 
  - Exactly - ANYBODY BUT THE REPIGS!  janesez   May-06-08 03:51 PM   #5 
     - When I think back to Bill Clinton's support for NAFTA, telecom reform  Radical Activist   May-06-08 04:48 PM   #79 
  - My candidate didn't align himself with McCain against the other candidate of his party.  Oregonian   May-06-08 03:51 PM   #4 
  - Well, your candidate deserves to win, right?  Radio_Lady   May-06-08 03:52 PM   #8 
  - Sigh.  janesez   May-06-08 03:53 PM   #9 
  - I'm just saying ... They are NOT the same.  Oregonian   May-06-08 03:55 PM   #13 
  - Can you take the high road and join the Democratic cry  Juniperx   May-06-08 03:54 PM   #10 
     - See my journal post. I plan to let it remain there until November 2008.  Radio_Lady   May-06-08 03:55 PM   #15 
        - Bravo from a fellow Democrat and we need more like you  dogday   May-06-08 03:59 PM   #21 
        - Thanks. I will never desert the Democratic party. Expect to vote that way for the rest of my life.  Radio_Lady   May-06-08 04:00 PM   #24 
        - Well done, Radio_Lady!  Juniperx   May-06-08 04:09 PM   #40 
  - Their voting records are practically  leftynyc   May-06-08 03:52 PM   #7 
  - Their voting records, their platforms, their policy ideas, their ideology.  janesez   May-06-08 03:54 PM   #11 
  - The supporters of both candidates  leftynyc   May-07-08 09:34 AM   #118 
     - That it is....  nadinbrzezinski   May-07-08 03:15 PM   #125 
  - Remember, he couldn't ditch Wright until the time when he COULD ditch Wright!  Radio_Lady   May-06-08 03:54 PM   #12 
  - He gave a major speech against it.  Levgreee   May-06-08 03:55 PM   #14 
  - When he had NOTHING TO LOSE.  janesez   May-06-08 03:56 PM   #17 
     - How did he have nothing to lose, exactly? A speech like that would follow him around his whole  Levgreee   May-06-08 04:02 PM   #27 
     - He was a STATE SENATOR in a heavily Democratic area.  janesez   May-06-08 04:03 PM   #29 
        - And you believe he just wanted to stay a state senator the rest of his career?  Levgreee   May-06-08 04:09 PM   #38 
        - He gave that speech a few months before his run for US Senate  TheDoorbellRang   May-06-08 04:43 PM   #68 
        - I remember further back than 6 months ago. I and many more  lumpy   May-06-08 05:11 PM   #99 
     - How does he have nothing to lose?  BklnDem75   May-06-08 04:19 PM   #44 
     - Bullshit. He was running for Senate in a Democratic Primary.  Radical Activist   May-06-08 04:43 PM   #69 
  - But Hillary actually did vote for the IWR  DanTex   May-06-08 04:09 PM   #39 
  - ... and Obama stayed in his church for 20 years!  Radio_Lady   May-06-08 04:48 PM   #78 
  - omg w/ the church shit  beezlebum   May-06-08 05:10 PM   #98 
  - Are you kidding me? You're comparing a decision to allow the slaughter of innocents  Oregonian   May-06-08 10:12 PM   #113 
  - You'll have to ask her why she voted  leftynyc   May-07-08 09:36 AM   #120 
  - So Hillary moved left for a year before the Democratic Primary.  Radical Activist   May-06-08 04:41 PM   #65 
     - Don't speak to me about pandering  leftynyc   May-07-08 09:33 AM   #117 
  - I am alerting your post  ZombyWoof   May-06-08 03:55 PM   #16 
  - Crap, sorry, forgot where I was for a minute.  janesez   May-06-08 03:59 PM   #22 
     - Put some 1's with your exclamation points  ZombyWoof   May-06-08 04:02 PM   #28 
        - "I'm on hold with them now, what should I say?" - Arwalden  janesez   May-06-08 04:05 PM   #31 
  - Exactly  KingFlorez   May-06-08 03:56 PM   #18 
  - One is DLC and the other is not  mrone2   May-06-08 03:57 PM   #20 
  - Perhaps to you.  janesez   May-06-08 04:01 PM   #26 
  - You're probably right, but the erradication of the DLC has to start someplace  mrone2   May-06-08 04:06 PM   #35 
     - That's the spirit!  Zodiak Ironfist   May-06-08 04:21 PM   #47 
        - Very well stated and I couldn't agree with you more  mrone2   May-06-08 04:23 PM   #49 
        - We have broken their backs, there is NO DOUBT.  PassingFair   May-06-08 10:06 PM   #110 
  - The DLC members support Obama  Two Americas   May-06-08 04:20 PM   #45 
  - If they do then it certainly seems  mrone2   May-06-08 04:25 PM   #50 
  - I suppose  Two Americas   May-06-08 04:30 PM   #53 
  - You should look again  Zodiak Ironfist   May-06-08 05:21 PM   #101 
     - thanks  Two Americas   May-06-08 05:51 PM   #106 
  - Barack Obama's Chief Economic Advisor is also Head Economist for the DLC :(  Romulox   May-06-08 04:47 PM   #76 
  - A Politician is A Politician is A Politician  dogday   May-06-08 04:00 PM   #23 
  - well  masshole   May-06-08 04:01 PM   #25 
  - No, they're nothing alike.  bowens43   May-06-08 04:04 PM   #30 
  - Hey, there's that reason and level-headedness I was looking for!  janesez   May-06-08 04:05 PM   #32 
  - Uh, you forgot neocon feminazi. nt.  cbayer   May-06-08 04:39 PM   #62 
  - peter barack obama is an opportunist who would have us believe absurdities  niyad   May-06-08 05:00 PM   #94 
     - Hear hear The veil needs lifting  lumpy   May-06-08 05:28 PM   #103 
  - K & R  highplainsdem   May-06-08 04:05 PM   #33 
  - On the issues, you're probably right  NeedleCast   May-06-08 04:06 PM   #36 
  - Judging others' integrity is a pretty woolly business.  janesez   May-06-08 04:08 PM   #37 
     - Race-baiting eh?  redqueen   May-06-08 04:11 PM   #41 
        - That's flame-baiting, not race-baiting.  cbayer   May-06-08 04:33 PM   #55 
           - Asking for evidence is flamebait?  redqueen   May-06-08 04:34 PM   #56 
              - Yes, Redqueen.  cbayer   May-06-08 04:44 PM   #71 
              - I guess.  redqueen   May-06-08 04:48 PM   #80 
                 - Awww, Redqueen.  cbayer   May-06-08 04:55 PM   #88 
                    - I suppose it's a sign of being cowed.  redqueen   May-06-08 05:25 PM   #102 
              - Someone With 16 Posts To Their Credit Is Not Going to Be Taken Seriously As Inquisitor, Ya Know?  Crisco   May-06-08 10:10 PM   #112 
  - The Clintons represent the Clintons...Obama represents the Democratic Party  zulchzulu   May-06-08 04:13 PM   #42 
  - I vouchsafe that is YOUR opinion. I've come to a different conclusion.  Radio_Lady   May-06-08 04:49 PM   #82 
  - They will NOT implement their policies or run the White House in the same way though!  Triana   May-06-08 04:19 PM   #43 
  - That's where he will disappoint his base  ZombyWoof   May-06-08 04:41 PM   #64 
     - Shh, you'll confuse them.  janesez   May-06-08 09:55 PM   #108 
        - Me? Scare?  ZombyWoof   May-07-08 03:14 PM   #124 
  - why would that scare me  texshelters   May-06-08 04:21 PM   #46 
  - The world according to CNN.  dailykoff   May-06-08 04:22 PM   #48 
  - No, they're not anything alike.  TexasObserver   May-06-08 04:25 PM   #51 
  - Do you expect Hillary to roll back the "unitary executive"?  eallen   May-06-08 04:29 PM   #52 
  - Thanks for your concern, Ralph.  Bornaginhooligan   May-06-08 04:31 PM   #54 
  - LOFL  FlyingSquirrel   May-06-08 04:35 PM   #57 
  - I am a Democrat and I will fully support the Democratic nominee  cbayer   May-06-08 04:35 PM   #58 
  - Many of the same stated positions, two totally different people  BeyondGeography   May-06-08 04:36 PM   #59 
  - Obamas energy postion is what makes me want to vote for him  uponit7771   May-06-08 04:36 PM   #60 
  - Actually. The people themselves are NOTHING alike.  bunnies   May-06-08 04:38 PM   #61 
  - Complete Bullshit.  Radical Activist   May-06-08 04:39 PM   #63 
  - delete  speedoo   May-06-08 04:44 PM   #70 
     - Leading what?  Radical Activist   May-06-08 04:46 PM   #74 
        - sorry, I deleted... was addressing OP and posted in the wrong place. nt  speedoo   May-06-08 04:47 PM   #77 
           - ah!  Radical Activist   May-06-08 04:49 PM   #81 
  - Say It Isn't So!  Crisco   May-06-08 04:42 PM   #66 
  - you're right...  joeybee12   May-06-08 04:42 PM   #67 
  - I hear a lot of progressive female supports of Hillary make this argument.  Radical Activist   May-06-08 04:45 PM   #72 
  - Except one of them has already won the nomination  lynyrd_skynyrd   May-06-08 04:46 PM   #73 
  - Absolutely untrue  ZombyWoof   May-06-08 04:55 PM   #89 
  - That isn't how it worked for Clinton, Gore and Kerry.  Radical Activist   May-06-08 04:57 PM   #91 
  - please tell me exactly when peter barack obama secured the necessary 2.025 delegates  niyad   May-06-08 05:04 PM   #97 
  - And I suppose your opinion would be unchanged if Hillary were leading this?  speedoo   May-06-08 04:46 PM   #75 
  - Well drawn post, janesez. I agree wholeheartedly with what  lumpy   May-06-08 04:49 PM   #83 
  - If you want to understand the difference between the two.  Radical Activist   May-06-08 04:52 PM   #85 
  - I use to agree with you.  sellitman   May-06-08 04:52 PM   #86 
  - Yes you are scaring me.....because it appears that you believe that folks here  FrenchieCat   May-06-08 04:55 PM   #87 
  - Sure. One appeals to bigots and wants to obliterate 70 million people. The other doesn't...  BlooInBloo   May-06-08 04:57 PM   #92 
  - policy-wise...maybe  jeffrey_X   May-06-08 04:59 PM   #93 
  - k & r  niyad   May-06-08 05:01 PM   #95 
  - Tell me about it.  cat_girl25   May-06-08 05:03 PM   #96 
  - Thanks janesez  JoFerret   May-06-08 05:15 PM   #100 
  - Together they would be unbeatable...  Sancho   May-06-08 05:30 PM   #104 
  - All of you who think it does not matter if a dem wins if it is not your  MasonJar   May-06-08 05:34 PM   #105 
  - Not to mention HUNDREDS on the federal courts.  janesez   May-06-08 10:03 PM   #109 
  - please-clinton has run a completly sleazy campaign and her connections are right wing  natrat   May-06-08 05:59 PM   #107 
  - Pretty much  bigwillq   May-06-08 10:06 PM   #111 
  - Well said!  BigBearJohn   May-06-08 10:49 PM   #114 
  - No, there is no ideological divide  eridani   May-07-08 05:23 AM   #115 
  - Gas tax holiday ring a bell?  hokies4ever   May-07-08 05:28 AM   #116 
  - You are saying Obama pandered three times in the State Senate?  DemGa   May-07-08 09:35 AM   #119 
     - No, we're saying he learned a lesson and Clinton should stop getting ideas from McSame  SoonerPride   May-07-08 03:15 PM   #126 
        - You know Clinton's plan is different than McCain's plan  DemGa   May-07-08 03:48 PM   #132 
           - It is economic folly  SoonerPride   May-07-08 03:54 PM   #134 
              - Then you also agree that Obama pandered three times  DemGa   May-07-08 03:59 PM   #135 
  - Hmmm, one is DLC and one isn't n/t  itsjustme   May-07-08 03:06 PM   #121 
  - Of course they are  alcibiades_mystery   May-07-08 03:08 PM   #122 
  - Yup. Has to be personal - there isn't anything else to argue about.  janesez   May-07-08 03:10 PM   #123 
     - As a full out  alcibiades_mystery   May-07-08 03:20 PM   #127 
  - Don't mean to stomp on your scare argument, but  ProSense   May-07-08 03:27 PM   #128 
     - See post 76.  janesez   May-07-08 03:29 PM   #129 
        - What does that have to do with the comparing Hillary to Obama?  ProSense   May-07-08 03:32 PM   #130 
           - You posted a thread about Hillary and Lieberman's DLC ties.  janesez   May-07-08 03:33 PM   #131 
              - An adviser with DLC ties, doesn't transform Obama's campaign into the DLC  ProSense   May-07-08 03:53 PM   #133 
 

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