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urgk Donating Member (982 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-07-08 09:23 AM
Response to Reply #111
114. I agree.
I posted the following on the post that the OP referenced:

"Maybe he's right.

What happens to your argument if he's right? What if Hillary *is* a lying, manipulative, right-leaning, disingenuous, amoral, two-faced politician who would do anything to grab more power?

I mean, what if she IS?

Wouldn't it be Keith's job to report it? I mean if Keith talks about Haliburton or Kellogg, Brown and Root or Rush Limbaugh and points out the ways that they lie, cheat and manipulate, is he biased against them? Or is he just doing his job?

And what if Obama has run a more dignified, moral and genuine campaign than Hillary has? What if he has? Is it Keith's job to manufacture outrage against Obama or to report Obama's response to the Clinton attacks as somehow unacceptable? Should he skew the news to make things appear to be even if in fact they aren't? Should Keith blow something about Obama's ex-pastor out of proportion when Hillary's campaign manager represents union-busting interests, works on deals that would hurt America's working class and works on behalf of Blackwater?

It isn't the job of the media to represent both sides of any issue equally, it is the job of the media to represent the truth at the core of any given set of events. Keith may pack drama into his reporting, but if, at its core, his message is backed by the facts, it is his moral obligation to present it to the public."
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  -Keith Olbermann Isn't O'Reilly. Even Hillary Wouldn't Label Him This Way. berni_mccoy  May-06-08 11:35 AM   #0 
  - It's down the list, but one of my reasons for wanting  lapfog_1   May-06-08 11:41 AM   #1 
  - Are "granite cookies" anything like the delicious "stone cookies" they make in Hawaii? MMMMM...  PoliticalAmazon   May-06-08 02:45 PM   #60 
     - I believe that is "stoned" cookies!  spag68   May-06-08 10:54 PM   #105 
  - self-delete - dup  lapfog_1   May-06-08 11:42 AM   #2 
  - Thanks, Bernie  me b zola   May-06-08 11:44 AM   #3 
  - For what...making a mountain out of a mole hill.Next it will be "Americans claim" when it's 5 guys  bjobotts   May-07-08 01:01 AM   #108 
  - Thank you.  H2O Man   May-06-08 11:45 AM   #4 
  - Nonsense and Horse Shit!!!  Binka   May-06-08 11:48 AM   #5 
  - Exactly. Horseshit is what that stupid post was.  speedoo   May-06-08 11:59 AM   #6 
  - I don't have to let the stupid sink, because most of them are on ignore.  GoneOffShore   May-07-08 08:37 AM   #112 
  - I agree. And Thank YOU H2O Man.  berni_mccoy   May-06-08 12:17 PM   #14 
  - I Agree  fascisthunter   May-06-08 07:19 PM   #82 
  - K&R, and bookmarked.  speedoo   May-06-08 12:00 PM   #7 
  - He's a former sports-jock who is more interested in making the news than reporting the news.  Beausoir   May-06-08 12:01 PM   #8 
  - He'll be remembered as one of the few Truth Tellers of this disgraceful era.  BlueManDude   May-06-08 12:37 PM   #24 
  - not really - Once honest he now smears and lies as needed for Obama  papau   May-06-08 09:58 PM   #100 
  - Wow, what a change in your position about KO. Thanks for the perfect example.  berni_mccoy   May-06-08 12:41 PM   #25 
  - Oh, SNAP!  returnable   May-06-08 12:56 PM   #33 
  - Yep. That was before he began believing his own press and morphed into a grotesque caricature of  Beausoir   May-06-08 01:00 PM   #35 
  - He hasn't let up on Bush one iota.  Shakespeare   May-06-08 01:27 PM   #49 
  - Too bad your obsessive resentment blinds you to the foibles of your own candidate.  Barrymores Ghost   May-06-08 08:29 PM   #89 
  - self-delete  Barrymores Ghost   May-06-08 08:36 PM   #90 
  - I thought Rush Limbaugh was supporting Clinton.  D23MIURG23   May-06-08 09:36 PM   #94 
  - thank you for this  trevjr   May-06-08 09:45 PM   #99 
  - You, sir, are an ass  NewHampshireDem   May-06-08 01:55 PM   #51 
  - If you think so little of him why are you stealing his line?  cui bono   May-06-08 05:31 PM   #68 
  - it must have escaped you...  tomp   May-06-08 10:42 PM   #104 
  - HAH you FAIL.  delt664   May-07-08 12:11 PM   #124 
  - K&R  Lugnut   May-06-08 12:02 PM   #9 
  - K/R.  Window   May-06-08 12:02 PM   #10 
  - As always ...  NanceGreggs   May-06-08 12:02 PM   #11 
  - Frankly, I'm surprised.  dbaker41   May-06-08 01:25 PM   #47 
  - PERFECT EXAMPLE: You see, the only side KO has taken is the side of the TRUTH. That's what you can't  berni_mccoy   May-06-08 02:08 PM   # 
  - PERFECT EXAMPLE: You see, the only side KO has taken is the side of the TRUTH. That's what you can't  berni_mccoy   May-06-08 02:08 PM   #54 
  - Felt the need to insult me TWICE?  dbaker41   May-06-08 02:38 PM   #59 
     - No. That was a posting glitch. And just like you see a double insult that isn't there  berni_mccoy   May-06-08 03:48 PM   #62 
        - First, I'm HARDLY an "extremist," unless your definition of the word  dbaker41   May-06-08 04:00 PM   #63 
  - Actually, I am not a kool-aid drinker ...  NanceGreggs   May-06-08 05:37 PM   #69 
  - Nance, you gotta remember,  DeanDem10   May-06-08 07:28 PM   #83 
  - No room for disagreement?  dbaker41   May-07-08 09:49 AM   #119 
  - The people attacking you are left-wing authoritarians.  blackops   May-06-08 09:39 PM   #96 
  - The people attacking you are left-wing authoritarians.  blackops   May-06-08 09:41 PM   #97 
  - And had it been the other way around  dbaker41   May-07-08 09:48 AM   #118 
  - You seem to imply that KO "took sides" in a vacuum...  ExPatLeftist   May-07-08 05:33 AM   #111 
     - I agree.  urgk   May-07-08 09:23 AM   #114 
        - Excellent points.  ExPatLeftist   May-07-08 10:21 AM   #123 
  - Thank You Nance!  berni_mccoy   May-06-08 01:59 PM   #52 
  - The people attacking you are left-wing authoritarians.  blackops   May-06-08 09:43 PM   #98 
  - You tell it like it is, Bernie. Thanks. nt  JenniferZ   May-06-08 12:03 PM   #12 
  - It says far more about the sad sacks who believe that than it does about KO.  Forkboy   May-06-08 12:05 PM   #13 
  - Here's another example of their Insanity (LINK)  berni_mccoy   May-06-08 12:23 PM   #15 
  - I can't view it.  BushDespiser12   May-06-08 12:28 PM   #19 
     - The poster is actually calling Super Delegates TRAITORS. Crazy.  berni_mccoy   May-06-08 12:29 PM   #21 
     - Ah, they just joined my list as well.  GoneOffShore   May-07-08 08:43 AM   #113 
  - That is some some bitter, sore -loserish BS  PDittie   May-06-08 12:23 PM   #16 
  - It's one of the most shameful things I've seen happen on this site.  Shakespeare   May-06-08 12:25 PM   #17 
  - Name one example...just ONE where KO was tough on Obama. We'll wait.  Beausoir   May-06-08 01:09 PM   #39 
  - Well, I certainly don't want to keep you waiting.  Shakespeare   May-06-08 01:18 PM   #43 
  - The thing is, when KO criticized Kucinich, or Edwards, or Biden or  NCevilDUer   May-06-08 09:36 PM   #95 
     - I don't know why either... but it reminds me of another politician's supporters. (nt)  redqueen   May-07-08 09:35 AM   #115 
  - pwnd  frylock   May-06-08 09:17 PM   #92 
  - I totally agree, Shakespeare!  hisownpetard   May-06-08 01:18 PM   #44 
  - Shame on you!  BushDespiser12   May-06-08 12:26 PM   #18 
  - BWAHAHAHAHA!!!  Shakespeare   May-06-08 12:29 PM   #22 
  - LOL! Thanks. The 83,000 words is pretty annoying sometimes  berni_mccoy   May-06-08 12:33 PM   #23 
  - I don't even bother reading her posts. Is she a she? I think so...  JenniferZ   May-06-08 12:54 PM   #31 
  - Rec'd!  gmudem   May-06-08 12:28 PM   #20 
  - Olbermann is boring. The first 15 minutes used to be good, now the whole thing  The_Casual_Observer   May-06-08 12:44 PM   #26 
  - Yeah he lost it and me. n/t  sandyj999   May-06-08 12:46 PM   #27 
  - Why? Because he exposed the Truth about Hillary? Here are your words:  berni_mccoy   May-06-08 12:52 PM   #29 
  - Just in February 08, You called KO "The Best Half Hour" around (regarding MSM news)  berni_mccoy   May-06-08 12:50 PM   # 
  - From 1/2 to 15 min to nothing.  The_Casual_Observer   May-06-08 12:53 PM   #30 
     - That's 15 minutes more each time exposing the truth about Hillary.  berni_mccoy   May-06-08 12:55 PM   #32 
        - Trivial locker room towel snapping made profound by a Murrow wanna be  The_Casual_Observer   May-06-08 01:02 PM   #36 
           - That pretty much sums it up. Murrow wanna be. He has no shred of credibility left with anyone  Beausoir   May-06-08 01:11 PM   #40 
           - I gotta really hand it to you Hillary folks  NewHampshireDem   May-06-08 02:06 PM   #53 
  - K&R, I thought it was uncalled for  uponit7771   May-06-08 12:50 PM   #28 
  - Obama supporters should talk  jconner27   May-06-08 12:59 PM   #34 
  - We started the name calling and being nasty? Yeah. Sure. Believe what you want.  berni_mccoy   May-06-08 01:05 PM   #38 
     - It doesn't matter...  Technodaoist   May-07-08 09:53 AM   #120 
  - Seconded  Prophet 451   May-06-08 01:04 PM   #37 
  - more like a  Cheap_Trick   May-06-08 01:43 PM   #50 
  - Clinton Derangement Syndrome  Lilith Velkor   May-06-08 02:24 PM   #56 
     - Thank you, proved my point  Prophet 451   May-06-08 02:31 PM   #57 
        - Pretending I said something I didn't doesn't prove anything except your bias  Lilith Velkor   May-06-08 04:19 PM   #65 
           - I didn't call you a Bush Backer  Prophet 451   May-06-08 04:34 PM   #67 
              - You want to know another thing about Bushies?  Lilith Velkor   May-06-08 05:53 PM   #71 
  - I'm just surprised the Olbermann of all people has gotten sucked into  madinmaryland   May-06-08 01:15 PM   #41 
  - I supported KO when he pointed out the crimes of the Bush regime. Now...he's stuck in a revolving  Beausoir   May-06-08 01:17 PM   #42 
  - But who speaks for us...  ImForGore   May-06-08 05:50 PM   #70 
  - correct  Skittles   May-06-08 07:03 PM   #76 
  - Unavoidable, to an extent  Prophet 451   May-06-08 02:33 PM   #58 
  - Like you, Keith is the real McCoy. K&R!  hisownpetard   May-06-08 01:19 PM   #45 
  - Heh. Thanks!  berni_mccoy   May-06-08 07:00 PM   #75 
  - Thanks Bernie ! You spoke for me ! EOM  Overseas   May-06-08 01:21 PM   #46 
  - That meany K.O. is preventing me from contorting my world view into a pretzel...*sulk*. (nt)  Umbram   May-06-08 01:27 PM   #48 
  - LOL!  berni_mccoy   May-06-08 03:29 PM   #61 
  - The worst thing you can say about KO is that he's supporting the Democratic nominee before Hillary  Stop Cornyn   May-06-08 02:12 PM   #55 
  - these Clintonites have kicked them all to the curb  democracy1st   May-06-08 04:02 PM   #64 
  - Another kick, Wish I could rec this again...  speedoo   May-06-08 04:27 PM   #66 
  - Thanks. I appreciate it! :-D  berni_mccoy   May-06-08 06:26 PM   #72 
  - very good  grantcart   May-06-08 06:29 PM   #73 
  - About damned time this made it to the front page  sasquatch   May-06-08 06:46 PM   #74 
  - you just touched the tip of that KO post  bigtree   May-06-08 07:05 PM   #77 
  - Right back at ya bigtree. And for what it's worth, a differing opinion is fine.  berni_mccoy   May-06-08 07:11 PM   #78 
  - That Other Thread is one of the Most Embarrassing Threads  fascisthunter   May-06-08 07:14 PM   #79 
  - Well, she's called me a Nazi book-burner before, so close enough.  berni_mccoy   May-06-08 07:16 PM   #80 
     - I Believe It... So Ridiculous  fascisthunter   May-06-08 07:17 PM   #81 
  - the extremists are Obama supporters who resort to  Evergreen Emerald   May-06-08 07:29 PM   #84 
  - bernie's just another obedient O-Bot, pay him no mind  Tarc   May-06-08 08:12 PM   #87 
  - Good post, berni!  Oregonian   May-06-08 07:55 PM   #85 
  - Rec'd  Veilex   May-06-08 08:02 PM   #86 
  - I see a moment or two of Countdown  Bluenorthwest   May-06-08 08:13 PM   #88 
  - K&R - Great post, and thanks! n/t  Barrymores Ghost   May-06-08 08:38 PM   #91 
  - thanks for setting up this honey pot..  frylock   May-06-08 09:23 PM   #93 
  - Here's how I see it  FatDave   May-06-08 10:09 PM   #101 
  - Do you remember him getting SO upset about Obama's passport  barb162   May-06-08 10:31 PM   #102 
  - so by your logic, mccamy taylor is worse than hillary, right?  tomp   May-06-08 10:36 PM   #103 
  - you get another kick my friend  LaStrega   May-07-08 12:17 AM   #106 
  - Aren't you genralizing quit a bit? DUers? How many would that be?  bjobotts   May-07-08 01:00 AM   #107 
  - There are a number of people  GMFORD   May-07-08 03:41 AM   #109 
  - Thanks for this.  Jemmons   May-07-08 04:53 AM   #110 
  - Olbermann set himself up for this.  Mystery2Me   May-07-08 09:35 AM   #116 
  - Keith Olbermann is to Bill O'Relly, as...  Technodaoist   May-07-08 09:42 AM   #117 
  - Dupe  Jim Sagle   May-07-08 10:16 AM   #121 
  - At this point KO ain't even a pimple on BillO's ass. Fuck'm.  Jim Sagle   May-07-08 10:17 AM   #122 
  - By any standard, KO is staunchly behind Obama  KSinTX   May-07-08 12:41 PM   #125 
  - Keith Olberman isn't O'Reilly.  Patriot Abroad   May-07-08 02:15 PM   #126 

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