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Predictions for North Carolina and Indiana - Obama on Top
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May 6, 2008

By Steven Leser

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Obama is the big winner today in the North Carolina and Indiana Primaries. I predict that Hillary wins Indiana 53-47 and Obama wins North Carolina 55-45.

People are going to read the above and ask, "Isn't that a split? Why are you calling that a win?"

The answer is two-fold. First, Hillary needs around 68% of the vote in all remaining contests to catch Obama in the delegate count. Any result where Hillary fails to get 68% is a win for Obama. Not only doesnt she get 68%, but since Obama wins North Carolina, the last remaining big state by significant numbers, Hillary ends the day further behind in delegates than when the day began. She probably loses by at least the margin of delegates she gained from Pennsylvania.

Both camps suggested yesterday that the contest will continue to June 3rd but after today, the argument for Hillary to continue becomes significantly weaker.

Is there a possibility for an upset in either state? In North Carolina, the answer is no. The only question there is Obama's margin of victory. In Indiana, the margin of victory for Hillary could be very tight. A significant shift in turnout could swing the contest 5% in either direction, more than enough for Obama to eke out a small victory. If that happens, look for a Hillary concession tomorrow. I am not predicting that, but it could happen.
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  -Predictions for North Carolina and Indiana - Obama on Top stevenleser  May-06-08 08:59 AM   #0 
  - The answer is the different standard used for a Clinton win  Evergreen Emerald   May-06-08 09:01 AM   #1 
  - Clinton is the champion goal-post mover.... it doesn't make sense that Obama...  stevietheman   May-06-08 09:04 AM   #3 
  - I think basketball is the more appropriate sport for Obama, not  Old Crusoe   May-06-08 09:08 AM   #5 
  - you are forgetting her significant long-term plan for the "fix"  Evergreen Emerald   May-06-08 09:20 AM   #13 
     - No, I would not, since on the stump she herself sets forth only the  Old Crusoe   May-06-08 09:22 AM   #14 
        - That is not true. Every time I have heard her speak on the subject  Evergreen Emerald   May-06-08 09:28 AM   #15 
           - You should read better papers, then.  Old Crusoe   May-06-08 09:52 AM   #24 
              - I don't think its the papers. I think it is the glasses  Evergreen Emerald   May-06-08 02:39 PM   #32 
                 - Then you lack vision.  Old Crusoe   May-06-08 08:06 PM   #35 
  - Lot of pot kettle blacking there. The Clinton campaign is the master of flexible goalpost spinning.  yellowcanine   May-06-08 09:11 AM   #9 
  - Agree. It's been one of their trademarks this winter and spring.  Old Crusoe   May-06-08 09:13 AM   #10 
  - So, I take it "ignored" talked about moving goalposts? That IS funny!!!  stevenleser   May-06-08 09:17 AM   #11 
     - With the big bucks and huge lead HClinton had all last summer and long  Old Crusoe   May-06-08 09:19 AM   #12 
        - Its amazing how we all forget that in day to day conversations about this race...  stevenleser   May-06-08 09:42 AM   #19 
           - Keen points. Hillary Clinton led the Dem pack for the entire calendar year,  Old Crusoe   May-06-08 09:54 AM   #27 
  - you guys keep saying that, but I have only seen the goal posts  Evergreen Emerald   May-06-08 09:34 AM   #17 
  - Hillary is in second place.  verges   May-06-08 09:33 AM   #16 
  - I think that number goes into the 70's after today. When people here like  stevenleser   May-06-08 09:37 AM   #18 
     - My numbers  verges   May-06-08 09:42 AM   #20 
        - Mine too. I think they are right but we'll know for sure when  stevenleser   May-06-08 09:47 AM   #22 
  - That is hilarious. Hasn't Hillary and co moved the goalposts every few days?  Jennicut   May-06-08 10:07 AM   #29 
     - Hillary is slippery as an eel on everything except belligerance toward Iran  stevenleser   May-06-08 10:32 AM   #31 
  - Sounds good to me Steven.  Window   May-06-08 09:02 AM   #2 
  - Obama surrogate on MSNBC...  Secret_Society   May-06-08 09:07 AM   #4 
  - And Hillary supporters are doing the same thing. All are playing the expectations game...  stevenleser   May-06-08 09:08 AM   #6 
  - times change, eh?  Sandi_4_Edwards   May-06-08 09:09 AM   #7 
  - A lotta good it did HRC...  Yurovsky   May-06-08 09:09 AM   #8 
  - Perhaps they have learned to lower expectations after the Barack slip abt PA being close. nt  my3boyz   May-06-08 09:54 AM   #26 
     - Spoke to soon..according to First Read Obama said Indiana will be close. nt  my3boyz   May-06-08 10:21 AM   #30 
  - more with the math argument lol... you guys keep telling yourself that it matters lol  Texas Hill Country   May-06-08 09:43 AM   #21 
  - Chapeau Cat says Obama takes Indiana by a whisker!  npincus   May-06-08 09:49 AM   #23 
  - I love your cat! Give pearl some milk and fish from me!  stevenleser   May-06-08 09:52 AM   #25 
     - why thank you!  npincus   May-06-08 09:56 AM   #28 
  - My wife, my son, my daughter in law, and myself all voted today in IN for Obama  B Calm   May-06-08 02:45 PM   #33 
     - Oh I so hope that will happen!!!!!  stevenleser   May-06-08 04:24 PM   #34 
 

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