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141. Record Democratic turnout nationally, record voter registration - yeah I see your point. Not. n/t
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  -Dean sucks as party chair. If I were an Obama supporter... Maddy McCall  May-05-08 03:38 PM   #0 
  - Deleted sub-thread  Name removed   May-05-08 03:39 PM   #1 
  - I really like and respect Dean for what he's done for the party.  yardwork   May-05-08 03:39 PM   #2 
  - Dean is a Democratic Party Super-Hero.  meow mix   May-05-08 03:39 PM   #3 
  - Only to half of the party.  Maddy McCall   May-05-08 03:42 PM   #12 
     - The non-DLC half....n/t  PassingFair   May-05-08 04:08 PM   #58 
     - the only thing that sucks about Howard Dean is the way some people  roguevalley   May-05-08 04:29 PM   #80 
     - That's BS  catgirl   May-05-08 04:45 PM   #91 
  - Bummer  blogslut   May-05-08 03:39 PM   #4 
  - Dean's been the best chair in many years. Perhaps ever.  Bornaginhooligan   May-05-08 03:40 PM   #5 
  - Only to half of the party...  Maddy McCall   May-05-08 03:42 PM   #15 
     - The whole party has benefited from following the rules. You should try it. Or are you special?  John Q. Citizen   May-05-08 03:44 PM   #21 
     - You must mean the other half that doesn't care about breaking rules.  L0oniX   May-05-08 03:56 PM   #40 
     - He won us back the house and Senate.  Mooney   May-05-08 04:18 PM   #69 
     - Ok he hasn't been good for the DLC corporate wing  democracy1st   May-06-08 12:28 AM   #139 
  - His 50 state strategy is working, and we won in 2006 if you recall. He's great as DNC chair!  Kerry2008   May-05-08 03:41 PM   #6 
  - We won because people despise Bush.  Maddy McCall   May-05-08 03:43 PM   #19 
     - That can only take you so far...  Kerry2008   May-05-08 03:47 PM   #29 
     - Then we should have won in 2004.....  bvar22   May-05-08 05:32 PM   #105 
     - Bush didn't have sub 30% approval ratings in 2004.  tritsofme   May-06-08 12:57 AM   #145 
     - Our state did go for Shrub in 2004  Heathen57   May-05-08 09:53 PM   #124 
  - He's enforcing the rule that Clinton wanted so she could get her monster  grantcart   May-05-08 03:41 PM   #7 
  - Yes and she agreed to the rules to start with ...and then flip flops of course. doh  L0oniX   May-05-08 03:57 PM   #43 
  - Dean merely enforced the ruling of the R&BC  IWantAnyDem   May-05-08 03:41 PM   #8 
  - Yeah he sucks...NOT  truebrit71   May-05-08 03:41 PM   #9 
  - Dean rocks.  here_is_to_hope   May-05-08 03:41 PM   #10 
  - It's Hillbot logic  Cali_Democrat   May-05-08 03:45 PM   #24 
  - Every Time I See Dean Speak  ribofunk   May-05-08 03:41 PM   #11 
  - Dean's my baby-daddy  XemaSab   May-05-08 03:42 PM   #13 
  - LOL.  Maddy McCall   May-05-08 03:43 PM   #20 
  - I had a great deal of respect for Dean until  leftofcool   May-05-08 03:42 PM   #14 
  - Yep...we will lose Florida for sure...  Maddy McCall   May-05-08 03:44 PM   #22 
  - Yeah, because FL is sooo blue. TX has elected more Dem presidents than FL. -eom  Justitia   May-05-08 03:52 PM   #35 
  - Sorry, Al Gore won Florida and you know it.......GWB stole  leftofcool   May-05-08 04:07 PM   #53 
     - Yeah, uh - huh, FL is REALLY a blue state in disguise. Delusional. -eom  Justitia   May-05-08 04:12 PM   #61 
     - Surprise... Team Obama has retroactively decided that what happened in FL was actually ok in 2000  LVjinx   May-05-08 06:43 PM   #114 
  - I hope we don't lose Michigan  leftofcool   May-05-08 04:07 PM   #56 
  - We won Florida in 2000 and we won Ohio  goclark   May-06-08 12:11 AM   #136 
  - those aren't "his" rules, those are the rules of the Democratic Party.  Justitia   May-05-08 03:47 PM   #26 
  - Terry Mac  Jake3463   May-05-08 03:48 PM   #31 
  - And they are the rules that Hillary agreed to. Oh well I guess she can't be trusted to follow rules.  L0oniX   May-05-08 03:59 PM   #47 
  - Yeah, we lost Florida in 1980, 1984, 1988, 1992, 2000, and 2004  hfojvt   May-05-08 04:01 PM   #50 
  - No we did not lose Florida in 2004  leftofcool   May-05-08 04:08 PM   #57 
     - What will stop it from being rigged this year?  Mooney   May-05-08 04:22 PM   #71 
        - The legislation that moved the primary date also made 'paper trails' a rule.  Maribelle   May-05-08 04:30 PM   #81 
  - Florida was Dean's to lose this year, sadly. Just when Democrats were making a comback in the state  Maribelle   May-05-08 04:27 PM   #77 
  - That is so much horseshit, I don't even know where to begin. Hillary is losing on her own merits.  Justitia   May-05-08 04:33 PM   #83 
  - Hillary went into Florida's history books with a record-shattering primary victory.  Maribelle   May-05-08 04:38 PM   #86 
     - What?!? By CHEATING, and GOING BACK ON HER WORD, totally underhanded.  Justitia   May-05-08 04:44 PM   #90 
        - Making up lies about Hillary does not alter the fact that Florida has recorded her victory  Maribelle   May-06-08 05:03 AM   #149 
  - Florida elected Jeb Bush's anointed successor to the Governor's mansion in '06...  Hippo_Tron   May-05-08 06:37 PM   #110 
  - The rules are the rules presented by  xxqqqzme   May-05-08 04:43 PM   #89 
  - until.... Hills only chance was to go the nuclear route  catgirl   May-05-08 04:51 PM   #98 
  - A couple of points  dbmk   May-05-08 07:05 PM   #119 
  - Agreed. MI and FL are Howie's fault.  DemVet   May-06-08 05:34 AM   #151 
  - Get real!  John Q. Citizen   May-05-08 03:42 PM   #16 
  - Past time for Dean to step down. His bias for Obama is not the behavior of a Chair who  rodeodance   May-05-08 04:24 PM   #74 
     - "Reality" and "Whatever is happening in your head" are not the same thing at all. -eom  Justitia   May-05-08 04:26 PM   #76 
     - LOL ...there's that ignored person again.  L0oniX   May-05-08 06:46 PM   #116 
     - No, he enforced the rules everyone agreed to. If he were playing favorites, and Obama  John Q. Citizen   May-05-08 04:53 PM   #99 
  - Huh? I can't find the "Unrecommend" button.  FSogol   May-05-08 03:42 PM   #17 
  - It's not Dean's fault that Clinton is losing. Dean is the best thing to happen to Our Party.  Justitia   May-05-08 03:42 PM   #18 
  - The GOP hates him - that's enough for me.  TBF   May-05-08 03:45 PM   #23 
  - Yep. When he took office my local freepers all warned me it meant the end of the Democrats.  John Q. Citizen   May-05-08 03:49 PM   #32 
     - Funny  Jake3463   May-05-08 03:50 PM   #34 
        - No, the freepers are scared shitless of Barack. That's why Rush is raising money for Hillary.  John Q. Citizen   May-05-08 04:07 PM   #55 
  - You sound like Hillary's "If I were a Repub" I'd have the nomination locked up  Jersey Devil   May-05-08 03:46 PM   #25 
  - It's not his fault that Hilly wants to break the rules  JVS   May-05-08 03:47 PM   #27 
  - Dean never wrote these rules  Jake3463   May-05-08 03:47 PM   #28 
  - What nonsense. First of all he's never said what you falsely  cali   May-05-08 03:48 PM   #30 
  - If rigidity means clear rules, I want rigidity.  kwenu   May-05-08 03:50 PM   #33 
  - Dean is doing a great job  lojasmo   May-05-08 03:53 PM   #36 
  - If I were a Clinton supporter, I'd choose an avatar that wasn't a blow-up doll. n/t  gkhouston   May-05-08 03:54 PM   #37 
  - Yeah, winning back Congress with Dean's strategy really sucks. n/t  Exilednight   May-05-08 03:54 PM   #38 
  - If You Were An Obama Supporter I Could Get Rich Renting Ice Skates In Hell  JimGinPA   May-05-08 03:55 PM   #39 
  - Does anybody else get the feeling that some of these OPs are written by college students  MercutioATC   May-05-08 03:56 PM   #41 
  - Maybe barber college.  Mooney   May-05-08 04:24 PM   #73 
  - DUzy  JimGinPA   May-05-08 10:02 PM   #132 
  - The 50-state strategy worked well for getting House seats  LisaM   May-05-08 03:57 PM   #42 
  - What about all the governorships we won? And we held EVERY SINGLE SEAT.  Justitia   May-05-08 04:04 PM   #52 
  - No, you're right about the governorships. I was talking about nationally  LisaM   May-05-08 04:07 PM   #54 
     - Are you kidding? I just told you we completely reversed the '94 Republican Revolution  Justitia   May-05-08 04:10 PM   #60 
        - No, I'm not entirely knocking it. You aren't paying attention to me.  LisaM   May-05-08 04:14 PM   #63 
           - I can't believe you are knocking it at all! WTF is wrong w/winning every single seat?  Justitia   May-05-08 04:19 PM   #70 
           - Then what about DNC fundraising?  LisaM   May-05-08 04:32 PM   #82 
              - What about it? Why don't you compare it to same year fundraising in previous presidential yrs?  Justitia   May-05-08 04:38 PM   #85 
                 - Actually, I was responding to the OP  LisaM   May-05-08 05:13 PM   #101 
           - So in a presidential election we should  Heathen57   May-05-08 10:02 PM   #131 
  - Please show link confirming the "broke" status of the DNC.  PassingFair   May-05-08 04:12 PM   #62 
  - Was he the party chair when the rules were adopted?  Blue-Jay   May-05-08 03:58 PM   #44 
  - I think he's doing a great job.  bigwillq   May-05-08 03:58 PM   #45 
  - The only problem is that Hillary thinks rules don't apply to her.  Radical Activist   May-05-08 03:59 PM   #46 
  - ah. If you were an Obama supporter...  bunnies   May-05-08 04:00 PM   #48 
  - If Hillary won't follow the rules that she agreed to why should we trust her to...  L0oniX   May-05-08 04:01 PM   #49 
  - It's not Dean's fault that some states think they can break rules and then...  zulchzulu   May-05-08 04:02 PM   #51 
  - I am from Michigan and I am MAD AS HELL...  PassingFair   May-05-08 04:15 PM   #64 
     - you and me both. n/t  purji   May-06-08 08:46 AM   #154 
  - "I like Clinton, therefore Dean sucks"  tkmorris   May-05-08 04:09 PM   #59 
  - I'm from VT and voted for Dean 4X and I agree with you 100%  Auntie Bush   May-05-08 04:17 PM   #65 
  - I'm from VT and I voted for Dean 5x  cali   May-05-08 04:23 PM   #72 
  - Why don't I believe you?  catgirl   May-05-08 04:53 PM   #100 
     - What don't you believe?  Auntie Bush   May-05-08 06:13 PM   #106 
  - He's enforcing the rules.  Mooney   May-05-08 04:17 PM   #66 
  - Maybe you will luck out and get a TOTAL DLC toady next time!  PassingFair   May-05-08 04:17 PM   #67 
  - Its funny how you get people to  spokane   May-05-08 04:18 PM   #68 
  - I Disagree. It's Time for People to Grow the Fuck Up  Crisco   May-05-08 04:25 PM   #75 
  - Dean's not the one who formulated these atrocious primary delegate rules  Carrieyazel   May-05-08 04:28 PM   #78 
  - Dean has done a great job heading up the DNC  Va Lefty   May-05-08 04:29 PM   #79 
  - I wasn't that big on Dean as a Presidential candidate but I think he's done a great job  last_texas_dem   May-05-08 04:37 PM   #84 
  - You have Dean to thank for the 2006 election and the 50 state strategy.  Vinca   May-05-08 04:43 PM   #87 
  - i am howard dean's special interest.  mopinko   May-05-08 04:43 PM   #88 
  - Couldn't disagree more, and I suspect you're being dishonest when you say you'd feel the same way.  Forkboy   May-05-08 04:45 PM   #92 
  - I love Howard Dean. It is irrespective of my support for Obama.  sparosnare   May-05-08 04:45 PM   #93 
  - He's stated that FL & MI will be seated at the convention.  Greyskye   May-05-08 04:46 PM   #94 
  - I think Hillary's main goal right now is to take down Howard Dean, if she can't win the nom  rudy23   May-05-08 04:49 PM   #95 
  - The Clintons ALWAYS blame everybody else for their own bad behavior.  Justitia   May-05-08 04:51 PM   #97 
  - Howard Dean saved this party from DLC Hell  newmajority   May-05-08 04:50 PM   #96 
  - If you were an Obama supporter, you wouldn't want to turn Democrats against other Democrats  karynnj   May-05-08 05:19 PM   #102 
  - It is more a case of respect the agreement that Hillary signed.  barack the house   May-05-08 05:20 PM   #103 
  - Oh bullshit. He has remained impartial as he should.  endarkenment   May-05-08 05:25 PM   #104 
  - Your posts are irrational and inaccurate.  undeterred   May-05-08 06:14 PM   #107 
  - the 50 state strategy has been a utter failure!  madrchsod   May-05-08 06:31 PM   #108 
  - 50 state strategy = good. 48 state strategy = McCain victory in November  LVjinx   May-05-08 06:46 PM   #115 
  - I'm not sure what you forgot....  demwing   May-06-08 09:32 AM   #156 
  - Dean Rocks and  Breeze54   May-05-08 06:34 PM   #109 
  - 2006 n/t  LeviathanCrumbling   May-05-08 06:39 PM   #111 
  - Deleted message  Name removed   May-05-08 06:42 PM   #112 
  - Is that the new kind of politics?  MonkeyFunk   May-05-08 07:09 PM   #121 
     - Did you mistake me for Obama Monkey?  Egnever   May-05-08 07:54 PM   #123 
     - No, I don't think you're Obama  MonkeyFunk   May-05-08 11:51 PM   #135 
        - its a big tent  Egnever   May-06-08 10:29 AM   #157 
     - Yes. Welcome to the future!  JVS   May-05-08 09:58 PM   #126 
  - OMG - Dean is enforcing the rules that Hillary agreed to abide by.  merh   May-05-08 06:42 PM   #113 
  - These rules are against the rules - early states get 50% delegates in the REAL rules  LVjinx   May-05-08 06:47 PM   #117 
     - No they are not.  dbmk   May-05-08 07:10 PM   #122 
  - You would have worked well in the Bush Administration. They don't care about rules either. nt  Quixote1818   May-05-08 06:48 PM   #118 
  - Yeah that 50 state strategy was such a dumb fuck move  gort   May-05-08 07:08 PM   #120 
  - What role specifically did Dean play?  Gore1FL   May-05-08 09:57 PM   #125 
  - Dean is single-handedly responsible for us having control of the House and Senate. That doesn't suck  chascarrillo   May-05-08 10:00 PM   #127 
  - Bill Clinton on Howard Dean, 1997  dave29   May-05-08 10:00 PM   #128 
  - You are full of it. He's a great chair, 50 state strategy, and jams it to the RePukes all the time.  RBInMaine   May-05-08 10:01 PM   #129 
  - I think Howard Dean has done more for this party then has been done for a long time.  dorktv   May-05-08 10:02 PM   #130 
  - SO who do you want, that lame-ass McAuliffe? Now HE sucked !  RBInMaine   May-05-08 10:03 PM   #133 
  - Look how many close congressional and senate races we lost under McAuliffe  OmahaBlueDog   May-06-08 12:19 AM   #138 
  - So when two states decide to buck the entire system, what would you have done?  wileedog   May-05-08 10:03 PM   #134 
  - I'd have gone with the decisions of the state legislatures and counted the votes  OmahaBlueDog   May-06-08 12:16 AM   #137 
     - Florida and Michigan screwed us at the 11th hour  Hippo_Tron   May-06-08 12:35 AM   #142 
        - If the primaries were run and paid for by the state parties, I'd agree  OmahaBlueDog   May-06-08 12:49 AM   #143 
           - Your proposal is absurd  Hippo_Tron   May-06-08 01:07 AM   #148 
              - Then the DNC should do away with primaries and just hold caucuses that they sponsor  OmahaBlueDog   May-06-08 08:34 AM   #153 
  - Dean has done more for the party  Pavlovs DiOgie   May-06-08 12:30 AM   #140 
  - Oops. Shouldn't you have said his 48 state strategy?  Maribelle   May-06-08 05:28 AM   #150 
     - LOL.  DemVet   May-06-08 05:34 AM   #152 
  - Record Democratic turnout nationally, record voter registration - yeah I see your point. Not. n/t  casus belli   May-06-08 12:31 AM   #141 
  - they broke the rules  darboy   May-06-08 12:55 AM   #144 
  - Maybe, maybe not; let's see how the fifty state strategy works out. That's more important...  WA98070   May-06-08 01:00 AM   #146 
  - Howard Dean is an outstanding Chair.  Old Crusoe   May-06-08 01:01 AM   #147 
  - Its Maddy Math!  demwing   May-06-08 09:26 AM   #155 

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