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LisaM Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-05-08 12:46 PM
Response to Reply #36
45. he's not interested in them because he probably wouldn't win those states
which I think most Obama supporters would acknowledge deep down. The fiasco has worked out nicely for them. It may not work out so well for Democrats in the GE, but what care they?

Oh, and BTW, I was championing Michigan having a sanctioned primary well before January, so please don't accuse me of only wanting it because it would help Hillary. Howard Dean's dismissal of Michigan pisses me off.
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  -Would Hillary be champion of voting rights in FL and MI if they were Obama states? SemiCharmedQuark  May-05-08 12:02 PM   #0 
  - She signed off on their being sanctioned in the first place. Doesn't anyone know that?  BlooInBloo   May-05-08 12:03 PM   #1 
  - But even if you look past that, I stil don't see how people can honestly believe  SemiCharmedQuark   May-05-08 12:04 PM   #2 
  - One of the reasons for her record-shattering victory in Florida was  Maribelle   May-05-08 02:23 PM   #83 
  - She did no such thing.  Maribelle   May-05-08 02:21 PM   #82 
     - Read the rest of the pledge.  gal   May-05-08 02:51 PM   #85 
        - There is no video of her saying the votes would not count in Florida.  Maribelle   May-05-08 04:16 PM   #87 
  - HELL NO! If she was worried about voter's rights she woudln't be trying to steal the nomination  nomad1776   May-05-08 12:04 PM   #3 
  - Ahhhh, NO.....  Waya   May-05-08 12:04 PM   # 
  - She didn't stad up for the voters in 2000 and 2004 vote fraud. n/t  PoliticalAmazon   May-05-08 01:52 PM   #72 
  - She's already demonstrated it's ALL about her and nothing more. So, NO.  WA98296   May-05-08 12:04 PM   #4 
  - Sssssshhhhh!  JimGinPA   May-05-08 12:05 PM   #5 
  - Would Obama be champion of voting rights in FL and MI if they we re Hillary states?  LibFromWV   May-05-08 12:05 PM   #6 
  - he's not pretending to be  habitual   May-05-08 12:07 PM   #11 
  - Then you just answered my reverse question.  LibFromWV   May-05-08 12:14 PM   #22 
     - No, he's not interested in them because they broke the rules.  Eric Condon   May-05-08 12:31 PM   #36 
     - were talking voters rights, not what the  LibFromWV   May-05-08 12:34 PM   # 
     - None of your posts make any sense.  olkaz   May-05-08 01:20 PM   #59 
        - Well i just want to acknowledge the spirit of hoe, unity and change  LibFromWV   May-05-08 01:23 PM   #61 
           - Thanks for making my point.  olkaz   May-05-08 01:39 PM   #66 
              - Your candidate follows the  LibFromWV   May-05-08 02:05 PM   #78 
                 - Righty-O.  olkaz   May-05-08 02:08 PM   #80 
     - he's not interested in them because he probably wouldn't win those states  LisaM   May-05-08 12:46 PM   #45 
     - I think Obama has more integrity..  stillcool47   May-05-08 12:47 PM   #46 
  - Probably! And that's the point!  SemiCharmedQuark   May-05-08 12:09 PM   #14 
  - Well then i say he get that unity, hope, and change going  LibFromWV   May-05-08 12:13 PM   #19 
  - No Kidding  iamjoy   May-05-08 12:09 PM   #15 
  - What about my voting rights....  pompano   May-05-08 12:38 PM   #41 
     - Obama was not the frontrunner when Michigan held their primary.  LisaM   May-05-08 12:40 PM   #42 
     - A couple million voters in FL and MI were told their vote didn't count.  LibFromWV   May-05-08 12:52 PM   #49 
        - Then re-vote  pompano   May-05-08 01:16 PM   #57 
           - she wanted to but Obama lawyers kept puting in motions to delay delay--  rodeodance   May-05-08 02:03 PM   #77 
              - I don't know about that...  pompano   May-05-08 03:33 PM   #86 
  - i think what you said is crystal clear to most people  habitual   May-05-08 12:06 PM   #7 
  - Who knows? We do know it's clear that Obama is NOT a champion of their rights  LisaM   May-05-08 12:06 PM   #8 
  - We all know. She agreed that they didn't count UNTIL they were the only way she could win (nt)  Umbram   May-05-08 12:12 PM   #18 
  - Well, you know what?  LisaM   May-05-08 12:18 PM   #26 
     - plonk  SoonerPride   May-05-08 12:23 PM   #29 
     - Well, you know what?  Umbram   May-05-08 12:26 PM   #33 
        - Good, then make it about the voters.  LisaM   May-05-08 12:37 PM   #40 
           - Two seperate issues.  Umbram   May-05-08 12:50 PM   #48 
              - Well, Hillary did leave her name on the ballot in Michigan  LisaM   May-05-08 12:55 PM   #50 
                 - Alright.  Umbram   May-05-08 01:10 PM   #54 
                    - No, you are wrong. I think this as a Michigander.  LisaM   May-05-08 01:12 PM   #56 
                       - Well, I'm all for a revote  Umbram   May-05-08 01:19 PM   #58 
                       - Hey, Kucinich was on the Michigan ballot!  LisaM   May-05-08 01:21 PM   #60 
                          - He was on the Ohio ballot as well...  Umbram   May-05-08 01:32 PM   #62 
                             - Michigan was a mess before it happened  LisaM   May-05-08 01:34 PM   #63 
                                - Well, I've given you my proposal for how it SHOULD work...  Umbram   May-05-08 01:42 PM   #67 
                                   - I don't think giving the early primary date to a Republican state is the answer  LisaM   May-05-08 01:56 PM   #74 
                       - Then hold your state politicians to account .  Hansel   May-05-08 01:45 PM   #68 
                          - Their position is indefensible, but so is the punishment  spoony   May-05-08 01:48 PM   #69 
                             - Gov Dean has said the delegates will be seated, so how is that indefensible?  Hansel   May-05-08 01:53 PM   #73 
                                - There is no way to make this right now  spoony   May-05-08 01:59 PM   #75 
                                   - Unfortunately we will never know what the voters' will would have been.  Hansel   May-05-08 02:18 PM   #81 
  - How do you know it's clear he is not a champion of their rights??  cliffordu   May-05-08 12:22 PM   #28 
     - because  LisaM   May-05-08 12:28 PM   #34 
  - She only fights for her own best interests - so NO.  sparosnare   May-05-08 12:06 PM   #9 
  - Would either candidate be champion when it comes to our rights?  dogday   May-05-08 12:07 PM   #10 
  - if we accept what you say  habitual   May-05-08 12:08 PM   #13 
     - Because neither is my candidate, I see the point better than you  dogday   May-05-08 12:10 PM   #16 
        - well, i understand what you are saying but  habitual   May-05-08 12:13 PM   #20 
           - You are not one-sided because of your support? Everyone else is  dogday   May-05-08 12:17 PM   #24 
              - i can tell you precisely what bush has to do with this  habitual   May-05-08 12:23 PM   #30 
                 - I don't see it because I hold nothing against her or Obama...  dogday   May-05-08 12:25 PM   #31 
                    - i hear ya.  habitual   May-05-08 12:30 PM   #35 
  - Of course not. She'd be intoning sanctimoniously about the importance of rules.  Shakespeare   May-05-08 12:08 PM   #12 
  - Well, when she lost Texas, she threatened to SUE us! That didn't go over so well.  Justitia   May-05-08 12:12 PM   #17 
  - Please lock this thread immediately!!  cliffordu   May-05-08 12:14 PM   #21 
  - NO she would not. Hillary's #1 Priority is HERSELF. SHE agreed, along with Obama  Triana   May-05-08 12:17 PM   #23 
  - no No NO NO! and HELL NO.  Lucky 13   May-05-08 12:18 PM   #25 
  - How would you feel if somebody came up with a "rule" that meant  Skarbrowe   May-05-08 12:22 PM   #27 
  - No  CatsDogsBabies   May-05-08 12:25 PM   #32 
  - You justify being unfair because Hillary might have done the same thing?  MojoMojoMojo   May-05-08 12:34 PM   #37 
  - Hillary Clinton:  beat tk   May-05-08 12:34 PM   #38 
  - He'd be a "Champion" of dirty tricks..  stillcool47   May-05-08 12:36 PM   #39 
  - When she was first lady and married to a powerful president, she did nothing  Truth Hurts A Lot   May-05-08 12:41 PM   #43 
  - Of Course Not! So What?  Crisco   May-05-08 12:41 PM   #44 
  - The Democratic Party cannot choose which states count and which don't.......  suston96   May-05-08 12:48 PM   #47 
  - perhaps, but i know obama sure as hell would be.  Texas Hill Country   May-05-08 12:55 PM   #51 
  - Would Obama be opposed if Fl and Mi were his states?  rodeodance   May-05-08 12:57 PM   #52 
  - No way to tell  Indenturedebtor   May-05-08 01:37 PM   #64 
     - She did at one time but Obama lawyers stopped that move.  rodeodance   May-05-08 02:02 PM   #76 
  - The voters did not break the rules......ALL their votes must count....  suston96   May-05-08 12:59 PM   #53 
  - If roles were reversed, Hillary would already be at the courthouse  Vinca   May-05-08 01:12 PM   #55 
  - Does a bear poop in the woods?  yellowcanine   May-05-08 01:38 PM   #65 
  - A champion of voting rights wouldn't fight to get caucuses invalidated.  MessiahRp   May-05-08 01:50 PM   #70 
  - Fighting for the people's right to vote is the right thing to do regardless of who is the candidate  Romulox   May-05-08 01:51 PM   #71 
  - No. She wouldn't give a tinker's damn if they went for Obama...Hypocrite that she is...  truebrit71   May-05-08 02:06 PM   #79 
  - well, if your answer's no, then i guess she's no worse than Obama. nt  VotesForWomen   May-05-08 02:39 PM   #84 
  - Okaay - She was a Cub fan and now a Yankee fan??  nels25   May-05-08 04:21 PM   #88 

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