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Wed Apr-30-08 05:03 PM
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| 75. **OP uses a RW smear site--and see this book Review: Zeifaman's source was his DIARY!! |
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http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-srv/style/longterm/boo... Washington Post book review-- Updated at 11:20 PM "The lack of evidence makes this theory hard to swallow. Zeifman's most reliable source -- his diary -- contains few revelations and seems little more than a chronicle of his suspicions and speculations. The book's jacket cover, which promises readers "truths even more startling than those brought out in Oliver Stone's movies 'Nixon' and 'JFK', " does not help matters. Perhaps the book's publicists forgot that "Nixon" and "JFK" were, after all, only Hollywood movies." ….. "Zeifman's book will surely excite conspiracy buffs on the lookout for sinister coverups in high places. But those wary of such unsubstantiated theories (myself included) will find Zeifman's book an unconvincing, if imaginative, tale of intrigue."
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| -Hillary fired for lies, unethical behavior from Congressional job |
TNOE |
Apr-30-08 03:45 PM |
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this has already been proven to be a hunk of crap. thanks for perpetuating the meme tho |
Texas Hill Country |
Apr-30-08 03:46 PM |
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Link? nt |
TheWraith |
Apr-30-08 03:47 PM |
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Proof please. |
TNOE |
Apr-30-08 03:47 PM |
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Where has it been *proven* to be crap? |
LSparkle |
Apr-30-08 03:48 PM |
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Washington Post book review-- |
beat tk |
Apr-30-08 03:51 PM |
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Link, please? Thanks. |
DinahMoeHum |
Apr-30-08 04:03 PM |
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I found the link, but it does not refute the OP |
JFN1 |
Apr-30-08 04:12 PM |
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Delete |
stillcool47 |
Apr-30-08 04:37 PM |
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Which should tell you how good the source is in the 1st place. |
rinsd |
Apr-30-08 04:42 PM |
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The motive is not the retainer wall of the allegation. |
votesomemore |
Apr-30-08 04:45 PM |
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Or you can simply consider the source as full of shit given who promotes him. |
rinsd |
Apr-30-08 04:47 PM |
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Who? |
votesomemore |
Apr-30-08 04:52 PM |
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How about you read the website you provided. |
rinsd |
Apr-30-08 05:00 PM |
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From your link. |
cbayer |
Apr-30-08 04:54 PM |
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""Zeifman's book will surely excite conspiracy buffs on the lookout for sinister coverups in high |
rodeodance |
Apr-30-08 04:58 PM |
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Let's ask Teddy Kennedy if it's true. |
aquart |
Apr-30-08 05:21 PM |
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Over the years, how many women on his staff? |
aquart |
Apr-30-08 05:19 PM |
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Unintentional hilarity alert! |
rinsd |
Apr-30-08 05:20 PM |
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Ack! Just saw it! |
aquart |
Apr-30-08 05:23 PM |
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Oh, please. Its much more applicable to Hillary |
JFN1 |
Apr-30-08 04:58 PM |
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"and she wouldn't sleep with me, and by God, back then women did that to keep their jobs." nt. |
IndianaJones |
Apr-30-08 03:47 PM |
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Are you a man or woman?? |
movonne |
Apr-30-08 03:59 PM |
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that is none of your business |
rodeodance |
Apr-30-08 04:50 PM |
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Zeifman is not a reliable source, I'm glad we can all agree on that. |
beat tk |
Apr-30-08 03:48 PM |
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thank you |
Texas Hill Country |
Apr-30-08 03:54 PM |
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Why not? |
The Traveler |
Apr-30-08 04:03 PM |
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The description as a lifelong Democrat is bogus. |
rinsd |
Apr-30-08 04:45 PM |
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Need CREDIBLE links, please. Can't find anything in Snopes-dot-com. |
DinahMoeHum |
Apr-30-08 04:05 PM |
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I get it now. It's the fly in the ointment theory the Clitonbackers love so much. |
votesomemore |
Apr-30-08 04:55 PM |
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The enitre story is pinned on the word of a proven liar and promoted by the rw. |
rinsd |
Apr-30-08 05:01 PM |
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Sounds like the Wright "controversy" |
guyanakoolaid |
Apr-30-08 05:22 PM |
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The Wright BS is just that BS. |
rinsd |
Apr-30-08 05:25 PM |
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Funnily enough, it doesn't. |
aquart |
Apr-30-08 05:44 PM |
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So what? Doen't having stuff like this out there make her unelectable? |
eridani |
Apr-30-08 06:40 PM |
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another 20 year old story already debunked |
leftofcool |
Apr-30-08 03:50 PM |
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20? Try 30. |
baldguy |
Apr-30-08 06:42 PM |
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This article must be about a different Hillary Clinton |
SurfingAtWork |
Apr-30-08 03:50 PM |
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Do you mean the hillary who is for NAFTA or the Hillary who is against NAFTA? |
bambino |
Apr-30-08 05:19 PM |
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How credible can a site called hotair.com be? |
TheDebbieDee |
Apr-30-08 03:51 PM |
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I don't know |
TNOE |
Apr-30-08 03:52 PM |
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"Underground" is a pretty respectable word where I come from. |
aquart |
Apr-30-08 05:28 PM |
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Probable just a little better than O'Reilly... |
movonne |
Apr-30-08 04:00 PM |
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Is this better > http://www.jzeifman.com/ |
votesomemore |
Apr-30-08 04:11 PM |
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Its on AfterDowningStreetMemo |
TNOE |
Apr-30-08 04:14 PM |
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did you read it? |
onenote |
Apr-30-08 04:29 PM |
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Yes |
TNOE |
Apr-30-08 04:41 PM |
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"HRC was trying to ensure the election of a liberal Democrat" |
aquart |
Apr-30-08 05:47 PM |
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It is. Media Matters has it > |
votesomemore |
Apr-30-08 04:41 PM |
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"Welcome to the world’s first full-service conservative Internet broadcast network!" |
cbayer |
Apr-30-08 04:23 PM |
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An arsonist! She started the Chicago Fire!! |
MnFats |
Apr-30-08 03:51 PM |
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Enough already!! |
judy |
Apr-30-08 03:52 PM |
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Some things should remain "unchanged" |
TNOE |
Apr-30-08 03:54 PM |
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If you take that big a turn to the dark side when you are 27, it is VERY hard to come |
votesomemore |
Apr-30-08 04:13 PM |
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True...true... |
judy |
Apr-30-08 04:38 PM |
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I loved Obama's reply, tho. You don't have to talk tough when you are tough. |
votesomemore |
Apr-30-08 04:48 PM |
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Mrs. Obama is a corporate lawyer, isn't she? |
aquart |
Apr-30-08 05:46 PM |
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i'm not a clinton supporter, but this has snopes written all over it |
NatBurner |
Apr-30-08 03:53 PM |
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It's a tale written by a nitwit who claims he took notes |
leftofcool |
Apr-30-08 03:57 PM |
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Hillary Clinton has never lied! how dare you! |
ORDagnabbit |
Apr-30-08 03:55 PM |
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Nonsense. She's a terrible liar. Gets caught immediately. |
aquart |
Apr-30-08 05:33 PM |
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Glad to see the truth matters to some folks sounding off, here. |
rucky |
Apr-30-08 03:58 PM |
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Challenging the source here. |
americanstranger |
Apr-30-08 04:06 PM |
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Here's the source > http://www.jzeifman.com/ |
votesomemore |
Apr-30-08 04:15 PM |
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Promoted by rw outlets. Should be your first clue. |
rinsd |
Apr-30-08 04:48 PM |
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I thought she was bed buddies with the RW now? |
ORDagnabbit |
Apr-30-08 05:01 PM |
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Delete |
stillcool47 |
Apr-30-08 04:47 PM |
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Um did you read what that source is? |
rinsd |
Apr-30-08 04:51 PM |
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No..I never heard of it... |
stillcool47 |
Apr-30-08 04:58 PM |
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No sweat! |
rinsd |
Apr-30-08 05:04 PM |
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Since you aren't reading the rest of the thread, I'll post this again. MEDIA MATTERS has the story |
votesomemore |
Apr-30-08 05:00 PM |
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You do realize Media Matters calls Zeifman a liar don;t you? |
rinsd |
Apr-30-08 05:11 PM |
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The allegation is still accurate though, no? |
stillcool47 |
Apr-30-08 05:52 PM |
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Well he's gone from claiming he would have fired her to claiming he did fire her. |
rinsd |
Apr-30-08 05:57 PM |
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WTF - We're linking freaking Michelle Malkin? |
olkaz |
Apr-30-08 04:14 PM |
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Hillary IS THE "RIGHT" |
TNOE |
Apr-30-08 04:17 PM |
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I know, I know, but there's a bigger picture here. |
olkaz |
Apr-30-08 04:37 PM |
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Lie down with dogs, wake up with Michelle Malkin licking your face. |
aquart |
Apr-30-08 05:32 PM |
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this was crap the first few times it was posted and its still crap. |
onenote |
Apr-30-08 04:24 PM |
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Ya know |
TNOE |
Apr-30-08 04:35 PM |
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I haven't been able to find out why the guy is getting a bum rap. |
votesomemore |
Apr-30-08 04:40 PM |
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Being interviewed by RW nutjob Neil Boortz and a colum in RW Accuracy in Media didn't clue you in? |
rinsd |
Apr-30-08 04:44 PM |
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Hillary was interviewed by Bill O'Reilly. |
votesomemore |
Apr-30-08 04:58 PM |
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If that was the only place she appeared you would have a point. |
rinsd |
Apr-30-08 05:07 PM |
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After the Wright racist bullshit, Clinton supporters have no right telling anybody |
guyanakoolaid |
Apr-30-08 05:27 PM |
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We are only resposible for our own actions. |
rinsd |
Apr-30-08 05:33 PM |
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There's nothing to discuss about FL and MI. Read this: |
guyanakoolaid |
Apr-30-08 05:39 PM |
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Oh |
TNOE |
Apr-30-08 04:45 PM |
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Uh, he also lied about firing her. |
aquart |
Apr-30-08 05:42 PM |
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For those of you who swallow everything you hear that supports your POV |
cbayer |
Apr-30-08 04:27 PM |
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If this story is true cbayer that is no excuse |
Indenturedebtor |
Apr-30-08 04:42 PM |
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Well, look into it and decide for yourself. |
cbayer |
Apr-30-08 04:52 PM |
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Its a story sourced by and promoted by the right wing. |
rinsd |
Apr-30-08 04:52 PM |
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Please read the info in this link. |
cbayer |
Apr-30-08 04:57 PM |
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It's true. They're rebutting it with straw. |
votesomemore |
Apr-30-08 05:01 PM |
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is there ANY corroborating evidence of this... at all? |
Texas Hill Country |
Apr-30-08 05:09 PM |
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But...but...that would mean she wasn't a...Republican! |
aquart |
Apr-30-08 05:29 PM |
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Right. |
cbayer |
Apr-30-08 05:30 PM |
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K & R! |
Hope And Change |
Apr-30-08 04:37 PM |
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She has a history of working both sides of the street. |
book_worm |
Apr-30-08 04:38 PM |
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Zeifman is a life long Democrat like Zell Miller or Joe Lieberman. |
rinsd |
Apr-30-08 04:40 PM |
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You have proof of that? |
TNOE |
Apr-30-08 04:48 PM |
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Read his website |
rinsd |
Apr-30-08 05:03 PM |
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"darling of the RW castigating the Nixon impeachment -felt the real criminal was Kennedy! |
rodeodance |
Apr-30-08 05:07 PM |
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In a few words? |
TNOE |
Apr-30-08 05:10 PM |
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Yes, dear. But the vagina dentata is a myth. She won't really eat your dick. |
aquart |
Apr-30-08 05:43 PM |
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**OP uses a RW smear site--and see this book Review: Zeifaman's source was his DIARY!! |
rodeodance |
Apr-30-08 05:03 PM |
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n/t |
invictus |
Apr-30-08 05:06 PM |
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****FLAME-BAIT******** |
rodeodance |
Apr-30-08 05:08 PM |
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If you can't stand the Fire, get out of the Kitchen! |
JackORoses |
Apr-30-08 05:18 PM |
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I'm sorry, but this isn't fire. Its flaming shit. |
onenote |
Apr-30-08 05:21 PM |
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Think of it as reaching across the aisle, dear. |
aquart |
Apr-30-08 05:34 PM |
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this guy was her boss, and he did terminate her employment |
JackORoses |
Apr-30-08 05:48 PM |
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if you believe him. Do you agree with him and believe these other things he's written: |
onenote |
Apr-30-08 06:13 PM |
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Ah, the usual well-reasoned response from Hillary supporters. |
guyanakoolaid |
Apr-30-08 05:21 PM |
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When articles directly from right wing websites are posted about Obama, you see the same reaction |
rinsd |
Apr-30-08 05:28 PM |
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You'd never know it, with the zeal you Hillary supporters have of pushing the Wright "issue" |
guyanakoolaid |
Apr-30-08 05:36 PM |
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I've offered the evidence (and I'm not an Obama supporter). Believe Zeifman if you want. |
onenote |
Apr-30-08 06:15 PM |
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Locking |
The Magistrate |
Apr-30-08 07:07 PM |
#118 |