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| 114. She's not tough in the way I want her to be. |
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Edited on Sun Apr-27-08 02:06 PM by OnionPatch
I would have wanted her to be tough against the RW bullying us into a war. Instead I see her giving in and going along with the RW spin way too often. The flag-burning amendment comes to mind offhand. Oh, and she just bashed the party activists last week, didn't she? How tough of her to attack the people who do the most work for her party but cozy up to someone like Richard Mellon Scaife. Sorry, she's not tough in the ways I need and want her to be tough. It seems to me that she's only tough when it comes to her own ambitions.
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| -For seven years we cried out for a "tough candidate". Now we can't handle it and we want her to quit |
CK_John |
Apr-27-08 11:03 AM |
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Too bad she's just more of the same corrupt Washington. |
cliffordu |
Apr-27-08 11:04 AM |
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Yep. We don't need another Liar in Cheif only looking out for themselves. |
Kittycat |
Apr-27-08 11:06 AM |
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Thanks for kicking the thread. |
JoFerret |
Apr-27-08 07:51 PM |
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She is tough, ready and knows how to use Washington to get it done. n/t |
CK_John |
Apr-27-08 11:07 AM |
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Get what done? |
jwirr |
Apr-27-08 11:09 AM |
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She'll use anyone to get "it" done. |
JBoy |
Apr-27-08 11:15 AM |
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That may be true.. but the problem is Washington |
walldude |
Apr-27-08 11:38 AM |
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She did a bang-up job on health care in the 90s. |
Old Crusoe |
Apr-27-08 11:40 AM |
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You forgot the sarcasm ~ her health care plan got no where |
goclark |
Apr-27-08 01:56 PM |
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Hi, goclark. I did forget to put in the sarcasm emoticon, but that's |
Old Crusoe |
Apr-27-08 03:02 PM |
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Old Crusoe ~ you are so right! I remember it clearly |
goclark |
Apr-27-08 03:41 PM |
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If I wanted someone to "get 'er done" I'd call Larry the cable guy. |
cliffordu |
Apr-27-08 11:41 AM |
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But Hillary is DLC and DLC=Republican |
mrone2 |
Apr-28-08 08:20 AM |
#152 |
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Too bad you are not in the real world |
JoFerret |
Apr-27-08 09:02 PM |
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Obama's too soft |
sniffa |
Apr-27-08 11:06 AM |
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Fock! That's perfect. And smiling while he does it. |
cliffordu |
Apr-27-08 11:42 AM |
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I think Obama is a tougher candidate than HRC |
CatsDogsBabies |
Apr-27-08 11:06 AM |
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amen |
ginnyinWI |
Apr-27-08 11:15 AM |
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Tougher and more astute and principled. |
Skidmore |
Apr-27-08 11:30 AM |
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It's Gary Cooper (Obama) vs. John Wayne (Clinton). |
Starbucks Anarchist |
Apr-27-08 12:46 PM |
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I prefer honest. Tough is in the eye of the beholder. |
mmonk |
Apr-27-08 11:06 AM |
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Who is we? I cried out for someone the opposite of Bush, not a Democrat just like him. n/t |
Exilednight |
Apr-27-08 11:06 AM |
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Obama is more like Bush than Hillary. Folks have blinders on. |
jasmine621 |
Apr-28-08 06:11 AM |
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She is the true fighter, and will NEVER back down. |
goldcanyonaz |
Apr-27-08 11:07 AM |
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yeah. real tough. she keeps punching herself in the face. |
cali |
Apr-27-08 11:10 AM |
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In your oppinion. America does not agree. Obama can not close the deal. |
goldcanyonaz |
Apr-27-08 11:14 AM |
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lol he's closing it, dear. poor wittle hillykins. it's sexism |
cali |
Apr-27-08 11:16 AM |
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Cali, I rarely post threads, you are your own personal echo chamber. |
goldcanyonaz |
Apr-27-08 11:18 AM |
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whether in threads or posts that's been a constant refrain. |
cali |
Apr-27-08 11:40 AM |
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So constantly, if slowly, increasing your backing |
dbmk |
Apr-27-08 11:17 AM |
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If Hillary is so strong, then why can't she close the deal. She's getting beat by what many of .... |
Exilednight |
Apr-27-08 11:17 AM |
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Obama can't close the deal? Hillary had a gigantic lead going into this year. |
Telly Savalas |
Apr-27-08 06:27 PM |
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She Will Take Us Down |
otohara |
Apr-27-08 11:16 AM |
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Like she continued to keep health care reform in the spotlight in the 90s? |
Armstead |
Apr-27-08 11:38 AM |
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Sun-Tzu disagrees with that idea..... |
whistler162 |
Apr-27-08 01:11 PM |
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And that is the problem. There indeed comes a time to quit when you are losing, or |
RC |
Apr-27-08 01:25 PM |
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We Did? |
otohara |
Apr-27-08 11:07 AM |
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Don't confuse tough with dirty |
nebula |
Apr-27-08 11:08 AM |
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Tough, smart and SANE. Hillary only brings toughness to the table... |
Kristi1696 |
Apr-27-08 11:08 AM |
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You nailed it! SANE |
Sandi_4_Edwards |
Apr-27-08 11:09 AM |
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Sane is good. I like sane. |
helderheid |
Apr-27-08 11:09 AM |
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You said it better than I did. Thank you. n/t |
writes3000 |
Apr-27-08 11:11 AM |
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Her obsession with toughness has sent intelligence and sanity packing. |
Kristi1696 |
Apr-27-08 12:12 PM |
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The question was if Iran nuked first what would be our response. You know that and you pretend that |
CK_John |
Apr-27-08 11:11 AM |
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The question was if Iran struck ISRAEL, not the US. |
VolcanoJen |
Apr-27-08 11:16 AM |
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More than just Israel... |
graycem |
Apr-28-08 06:18 AM |
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Nuclear attack against the Mideast is an instance where one needs to chose their words carefully. |
Kristi1696 |
Apr-27-08 11:19 AM |
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"All options are on the table", code speak for 60 yrs. n/t |
CK_John |
Apr-27-08 11:22 AM |
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Then it's a shame that she said she would "obliterate them" instead of "explore all options". |
Kristi1696 |
Apr-27-08 11:29 AM |
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Being "tough" does not equal being nasty and vindictive. |
sparosnare |
Apr-27-08 11:08 AM |
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She talks a lot about being tough nt |
WesDem |
Apr-27-08 11:08 AM |
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If she is so tough, then why hasn't she put forth legislation to investigate the |
Blue_Roses |
Apr-27-08 11:08 AM |
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hillary's not tough in the ways that we need to win |
cali |
Apr-27-08 11:08 AM |
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Only if one confuses bullying + pandering with "tough". |
Tierra_y_Libertad |
Apr-27-08 11:08 AM |
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The sooner the better...she is not a tough candidate she is a lying |
movonne |
Apr-27-08 11:09 AM |
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Tough? |
jaxx |
Apr-27-08 11:09 AM |
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I don't want a President who threatens nuclear war for political gain. |
writes3000 |
Apr-27-08 11:09 AM |
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If she's so tough, why can't she beat Obama and win the nomination? |
VolcanoJen |
Apr-27-08 11:09 AM |
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your confusing tough with stubborn selfishness - we've had that..for 7.5 years. nt |
asSEENonTV |
Apr-27-08 11:10 AM |
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I'm sure the Obama supporters know this fact.... |
LakeSamish706 |
Apr-27-08 11:10 AM |
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I noticed that early on, too |
ginnyinWI |
Apr-27-08 11:18 AM |
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We want her to be tough.. |
sendero |
Apr-27-08 11:10 AM |
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The OP didn't call us names here. We shouldn't call them names. n/t |
writes3000 |
Apr-27-08 11:11 AM |
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Alert me.. |
sendero |
Apr-27-08 11:24 AM |
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We didn't cry out |
bowens43 |
Apr-27-08 11:11 AM |
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She only fights for herself. When she could have fought for others she |
Kahuna |
Apr-27-08 11:12 AM |
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ding ding ding |
VolcanoJen |
Apr-27-08 11:14 AM |
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Amen! |
graycem |
Apr-28-08 06:20 AM |
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Tough or scurrilous? And a big, giant liar to boot. |
npincus |
Apr-27-08 11:12 AM |
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There are at least two kinds of 'tough': one is 'tough' as in 'able to withstand a lot of |
hisownpetard |
Apr-27-08 11:12 AM |
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She's not tough. She only talks tough. |
Connie_Corleone |
Apr-27-08 11:13 AM |
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Self Destructive is not "tough" |
Wolsh |
Apr-27-08 11:14 AM |
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Tough? |
ampad |
Apr-27-08 11:16 AM |
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Either of them is tougher than Gore and Kerry combined. Go team! nt |
MookieWilson |
Apr-27-08 11:18 AM |
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Yes, and what was she doing in the Senate those long seven years? |
dailykoff |
Apr-27-08 11:24 AM |
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Tough on the Republicans. |
Crunchy Frog |
Apr-27-08 11:25 AM |
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Sorry, but she isn't the one. |
Yael |
Apr-27-08 11:25 AM |
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There are many aspects to being tough; delusional and divisive are not desirable. |
Buzz Clik |
Apr-27-08 11:26 AM |
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I want tough and smart and effective -- Not just tough and divisive |
Armstead |
Apr-27-08 11:27 AM |
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CK, you know Obama is what we were waiting for. |
Katzenkavalier |
Apr-27-08 11:27 AM |
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She's not tough, she's shrill. There is a big difference. n/t |
Raven |
Apr-27-08 11:29 AM |
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You forgot pestilence and global contagion. And fire raining down from above. |
Old Crusoe |
Apr-27-08 11:31 AM |
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With no oil and people with no money or jobs, how will there be any airlines? n/t |
CK_John |
Apr-27-08 11:34 AM |
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Look, my crystal ball's in the shop, but I think the airlines will still be |
Old Crusoe |
Apr-27-08 11:36 AM |
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Eos Airlines Files for Bankruptcy, Plans to Shut Down Immediately |
CK_John |
Apr-27-08 11:59 AM |
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Ja, I read the news but corporate consolidation is not a recent |
Old Crusoe |
Apr-27-08 03:00 PM |
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Thanks for stopping by, KKKarl... |
zulchzulu |
Apr-27-08 11:32 AM |
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We didn't mean "tough" as in "Republican-faux-tuff" |
AchtungToddler |
Apr-27-08 11:36 AM |
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Dumbest post of the day |
donheld |
Apr-27-08 11:36 AM |
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Not me. |
BlueIdaho |
Apr-27-08 11:38 AM |
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She is not "tough" she's a moral coward |
tularetom |
Apr-27-08 11:40 AM |
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Thanks for the post CK_John. |
DemEtienne |
Apr-27-08 11:40 AM |
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DAMN STRAIGHT! and, she will NEVER fold when counting the votes. |
goldcanyonaz |
Apr-27-08 11:55 AM |
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We said "tough" not PSYCHOTIC |
kenny blankenship |
Apr-27-08 11:41 AM |
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I voted for McGovern and don't want to do so again. n/t |
CK_John |
Apr-27-08 12:02 PM |
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Are you willing to destroy the Party for her ? |
kenny blankenship |
Apr-27-08 06:32 PM |
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She is my Senator |
mdmc |
Apr-27-08 11:43 AM |
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Hillary is Nasty But She is Not Tough |
Ichingcarpenter |
Apr-27-08 11:48 AM |
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9/11 widows/widowers, police and firefighters would disagree with you |
ruggerson |
Apr-27-08 12:06 PM |
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She's only tough when it's herself on the line. |
Starbucks Anarchist |
Apr-27-08 11:49 AM |
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This race is a dead heat because they are both tough. |
cbayer |
Apr-27-08 11:52 AM |
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No, sorry, I cried out for a candidate who would defend Constition and civil liberty... |
eallen |
Apr-27-08 11:56 AM |
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If she had fought the Bush administration this hard she may have gotten my vote |
anonymous171 |
Apr-27-08 11:56 AM |
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Clinton isn't a tough candidate, she is actually quite weak. |
Milo_Bloom |
Apr-27-08 11:56 AM |
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Ready to what? Nuke Iran? nt |
thecatburgler |
Apr-27-08 12:03 PM |
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What makes her "tough"? Someone needs to define that term. Because |
pdxmom |
Apr-27-08 12:05 PM |
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A tough candidate doesn't squeal that the rules are unfair, or blame the media for losing. |
TheWraith |
Apr-27-08 12:05 PM |
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Unfortunately, she only fights when SHE is the one at risk. |
dkf |
Apr-27-08 12:10 PM |
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We said TOUGH, not CROOKED |
sampsonblk |
Apr-27-08 12:10 PM |
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Well thank god |
northzax |
Apr-28-08 06:28 AM |
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Tough vs. obnoxious...two different things.. n/t |
monmouth |
Apr-27-08 12:11 PM |
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I want a tough candidate FOR US!! NOT for themselves! |
calipendence |
Apr-27-08 12:21 PM |
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It seems the party cannot handle "tough" |
GoldieAZ49 |
Apr-27-08 12:23 PM |
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You're talking about one of Sibel Edmonds' dirty dozen... |
calipendence |
Apr-27-08 12:26 PM |
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For seven years we cried out for a non-insider candidate. Now we can't handle it... |
ClassWarrior |
Apr-27-08 12:25 PM |
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She's fighting for herself, not for us |
high density |
Apr-27-08 12:29 PM |
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But how much of that "toughness" has been directed at the enemy ...? |
krkaufman |
Apr-27-08 12:45 PM |
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Hillary isn't 'Rocky' tough |
Kaleva |
Apr-27-08 01:16 PM |
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Actually |
JustAnotherGen |
Apr-27-08 01:17 PM |
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I'd like strong over tough, especially when tough equals nasty. |
highprincipleswork |
Apr-27-08 01:24 PM |
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"Why do I always get the first question?" |
chascarrillo |
Apr-27-08 01:30 PM |
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I used to admire Hillary's "toughness." |
smoogatz |
Apr-27-08 01:50 PM |
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tough enough to take down the republicans... |
jg82567 |
Apr-27-08 01:52 PM |
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for god sakes she is a coward. She is a spineless, yellow striped coward |
burythehatchet |
Apr-27-08 01:54 PM |
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LOL, we want a candidate that will starnd up to rethugs not be a rethug herself |
TheDonkey |
Apr-27-08 01:55 PM |
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She's not tough in the way I want her to be. |
OnionPatch |
Apr-27-08 02:05 PM |
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tough, yes |
Cheap_Trick |
Apr-27-08 02:55 PM |
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I don't want "tough" |
darboy |
Apr-27-08 02:57 PM |
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Tough as in ruining the Democratic Party? |
Obama_for_our_future |
Apr-27-08 03:33 PM |
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Clinton for Change....that's all there is to say. nt |
ileus |
Apr-27-08 03:50 PM |
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You have a strange definition of tough |
karynnj |
Apr-27-08 03:53 PM |
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AMEN /nt |
sueragingroz |
Apr-27-08 04:27 PM |
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We rent our clothing and wrung our hands |
JoFerret |
Apr-27-08 05:09 PM |
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Against McSame I have no doubt he'll be "tough" but I'd rather have smart an live vs tough & stupid |
uponit7771 |
Apr-27-08 05:37 PM |
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Obama is a brilliant man |
JoFerret |
Apr-27-08 05:50 PM |
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She might be a tough candidate, but what is her motive for running? |
Vinca |
Apr-27-08 05:43 PM |
#126 |
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there's a difference between tough and being a war-mongering brute... |
Ysabel |
Apr-27-08 05:44 PM |
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Seems to me we wanted a tough PROGRESSIVE candidate |
depakid |
Apr-27-08 05:52 PM |
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She continually whines and plays the victim |
Raine |
Apr-27-08 05:55 PM |
#130 |
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I don't want a candidate who acts like a REpublican |
IWantAnyDem |
Apr-27-08 06:28 PM |
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Tough, as in in fight for what's right. When has Clinton fought for anything other than herself? |
Bread and Circus |
Apr-27-08 06:30 PM |
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Where was she and her 'tough' act the last 7 years? Sabotaging OTHER Democrats for BushInc. |
blm |
Apr-27-08 07:00 PM |
#135 |
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Only the Fraidy-cats want her to quit. |
MethuenProgressive |
Apr-27-08 07:01 PM |
#136 |
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Rovian tactics do not equal toughness. |
MrSlayer |
Apr-27-08 08:13 PM |
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She's tough on Dems and soft on Rethugs |
eridani |
Apr-27-08 08:47 PM |
#139 |
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Tough? Lying and low-ball tactics are not tough. Neither is desperation. n/t |
Unbowed |
Apr-28-08 06:01 AM |
#141 |
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Tough doesn't mean talking tough... |
graycem |
Apr-28-08 06:07 AM |
#142 |
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Logan's Law: anything a Clintophobe says about a Clinton is a lie. |
Perry Logan |
Apr-28-08 06:11 AM |
#143 |
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She is a lying, calculating witch! It would be a disgrace |
my3boyz |
Apr-28-08 06:21 AM |
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Agree, and we decried political leaders who waffled and dodged |
OzarkDem |
Apr-28-08 06:23 AM |
#148 |
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HRC's not tough, she's had it handed to her ... she's a shameless bully. |
ShortnFiery |
Apr-28-08 06:24 AM |
#149 |
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I would like to see a candidate who's tough against the Republicans |
bklyncowgirl |
Apr-28-08 06:27 AM |
#150 |
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Go Hillary! |
shayes51 |
Apr-28-08 08:24 AM |
#153 |
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It's all well and good to have a tough candidate - if they fight for the right things |
Gonnabuymeagun |
Apr-28-08 09:18 AM |
#154 |
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Triangulation is capitulation. How is that tough? eom |
smiley_glad_hands |
Apr-28-08 09:19 AM |
#155 |
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