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52. Yes, and what was she doing in the Senate those long seven years?
Capitulating to neocons does not constitute a record of toughness.
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  -For seven years we cried out for a "tough candidate". Now we can't handle it and we want her to quit CK_John  Apr-27-08 11:03 AM   #0 
  - Too bad she's just more of the same corrupt Washington.  cliffordu   Apr-27-08 11:04 AM   #1 
  - Yep. We don't need another Liar in Cheif only looking out for themselves.  Kittycat   Apr-27-08 11:06 AM   #5 
  - Thanks for kicking the thread.  JoFerret   Apr-27-08 07:51 PM   #137 
  - She is tough, ready and knows how to use Washington to get it done. n/t  CK_John   Apr-27-08 11:07 AM   #7 
  - Get what done?  jwirr   Apr-27-08 11:09 AM   #18 
  - She'll use anyone to get "it" done.  JBoy   Apr-27-08 11:15 AM   #40 
  - That may be true.. but the problem is Washington  walldude   Apr-27-08 11:38 AM   #68 
  - She did a bang-up job on health care in the 90s.  Old Crusoe   Apr-27-08 11:40 AM   #72 
  - You forgot the sarcasm ~ her health care plan got no where  goclark   Apr-27-08 01:56 PM   #113 
     - Hi, goclark. I did forget to put in the sarcasm emoticon, but that's  Old Crusoe   Apr-27-08 03:02 PM   #118 
        - Old Crusoe ~ you are so right! I remember it clearly  goclark   Apr-27-08 03:41 PM   #120 
  - If I wanted someone to "get 'er done" I'd call Larry the cable guy.  cliffordu   Apr-27-08 11:41 AM   #76 
  - But Hillary is DLC and DLC=Republican  mrone2   Apr-28-08 08:20 AM   #152 
  - Too bad you are not in the real world  JoFerret   Apr-27-08 09:02 PM   #140 
  - Obama's too soft  sniffa   Apr-27-08 11:06 AM   #2 
  - Fock! That's perfect. And smiling while he does it.  cliffordu   Apr-27-08 11:42 AM   #77 
  - I think Obama is a tougher candidate than HRC  CatsDogsBabies   Apr-27-08 11:06 AM   #3 
  - amen  ginnyinWI   Apr-27-08 11:15 AM   #39 
  - Tougher and more astute and principled.  Skidmore   Apr-27-08 11:30 AM   #61 
  - It's Gary Cooper (Obama) vs. John Wayne (Clinton).  Starbucks Anarchist   Apr-27-08 12:46 PM   #102 
  - I prefer honest. Tough is in the eye of the beholder.  mmonk   Apr-27-08 11:06 AM   #4 
  - Who is we? I cried out for someone the opposite of Bush, not a Democrat just like him. n/t  Exilednight   Apr-27-08 11:06 AM   #6 
  - Obama is more like Bush than Hillary. Folks have blinders on.  jasmine621   Apr-28-08 06:11 AM   #144 
  - She is the true fighter, and will NEVER back down.  goldcanyonaz   Apr-27-08 11:07 AM   #8 
  - yeah. real tough. she keeps punching herself in the face.  cali   Apr-27-08 11:10 AM   #26 
  - In your oppinion. America does not agree. Obama can not close the deal.  goldcanyonaz   Apr-27-08 11:14 AM   #36 
     - lol he's closing it, dear. poor wittle hillykins. it's sexism  cali   Apr-27-08 11:16 AM   #44 
     - Cali, I rarely post threads, you are your own personal echo chamber.  goldcanyonaz   Apr-27-08 11:18 AM   #47 
        - whether in threads or posts that's been a constant refrain.  cali   Apr-27-08 11:40 AM   #71 
     - So constantly, if slowly, increasing your backing  dbmk   Apr-27-08 11:17 AM   #45 
     - If Hillary is so strong, then why can't she close the deal. She's getting beat by what many of ....  Exilednight   Apr-27-08 11:17 AM   #46 
     - Obama can't close the deal? Hillary had a gigantic lead going into this year.  Telly Savalas   Apr-27-08 06:27 PM   #131 
  - She Will Take Us Down  otohara   Apr-27-08 11:16 AM   #42 
  - Like she continued to keep health care reform in the spotlight in the 90s?  Armstead   Apr-27-08 11:38 AM   #70 
  - Sun-Tzu disagrees with that idea.....  whistler162   Apr-27-08 01:11 PM   #103 
  - And that is the problem. There indeed comes a time to quit when you are losing, or  RC   Apr-27-08 01:25 PM   #107 
  - We Did?  otohara   Apr-27-08 11:07 AM   #9 
  - Don't confuse tough with dirty  nebula   Apr-27-08 11:08 AM   #10 
  - Tough, smart and SANE. Hillary only brings toughness to the table...  Kristi1696   Apr-27-08 11:08 AM   #11 
  - You nailed it! SANE  Sandi_4_Edwards   Apr-27-08 11:09 AM   #17 
  - Sane is good. I like sane.  helderheid   Apr-27-08 11:09 AM   #20 
  - You said it better than I did. Thank you. n/t  writes3000   Apr-27-08 11:11 AM   #28 
  - Her obsession with toughness has sent intelligence and sanity packing.  Kristi1696   Apr-27-08 12:12 PM   #95 
  - The question was if Iran nuked first what would be our response. You know that and you pretend that  CK_John   Apr-27-08 11:11 AM   #30 
     - The question was if Iran struck ISRAEL, not the US.  VolcanoJen   Apr-27-08 11:16 AM   #43 
     - More than just Israel...  graycem   Apr-28-08 06:18 AM   #145 
     - Nuclear attack against the Mideast is an instance where one needs to chose their words carefully.  Kristi1696   Apr-27-08 11:19 AM   #50 
        - "All options are on the table", code speak for 60 yrs. n/t  CK_John   Apr-27-08 11:22 AM   #51 
           - Then it's a shame that she said she would "obliterate them" instead of "explore all options".  Kristi1696   Apr-27-08 11:29 AM   #60 
  - Being "tough" does not equal being nasty and vindictive.  sparosnare   Apr-27-08 11:08 AM   #12 
  - She talks a lot about being tough nt  WesDem   Apr-27-08 11:08 AM   #13 
  - If she is so tough, then why hasn't she put forth legislation to investigate the  Blue_Roses   Apr-27-08 11:08 AM   #14 
  - hillary's not tough in the ways that we need to win  cali   Apr-27-08 11:08 AM   #15 
  - Only if one confuses bullying + pandering with "tough".  Tierra_y_Libertad   Apr-27-08 11:08 AM   #16 
  - The sooner the better...she is not a tough candidate she is a lying  movonne   Apr-27-08 11:09 AM   #19 
  - Tough?  jaxx   Apr-27-08 11:09 AM   #21 
  - I don't want a President who threatens nuclear war for political gain.  writes3000   Apr-27-08 11:09 AM   #22 
  - If she's so tough, why can't she beat Obama and win the nomination?  VolcanoJen   Apr-27-08 11:09 AM   #23 
  - your confusing tough with stubborn selfishness - we've had that..for 7.5 years. nt  asSEENonTV   Apr-27-08 11:10 AM   #24 
  - I'm sure the Obama supporters know this fact....  LakeSamish706   Apr-27-08 11:10 AM   #25 
  - I noticed that early on, too  ginnyinWI   Apr-27-08 11:18 AM   #49 
  - We want her to be tough..  sendero   Apr-27-08 11:10 AM   #27 
  - The OP didn't call us names here. We shouldn't call them names. n/t  writes3000   Apr-27-08 11:11 AM   #31 
     - Alert me..  sendero   Apr-27-08 11:24 AM   #53 
  - We didn't cry out  bowens43   Apr-27-08 11:11 AM   #29 
  - She only fights for herself. When she could have fought for others she  Kahuna   Apr-27-08 11:12 AM   #32 
  - ding ding ding  VolcanoJen   Apr-27-08 11:14 AM   #37 
  - Amen!  graycem   Apr-28-08 06:20 AM   #146 
  - Tough or scurrilous? And a big, giant liar to boot.  npincus   Apr-27-08 11:12 AM   #33 
  - There are at least two kinds of 'tough': one is 'tough' as in 'able to withstand a lot of  hisownpetard   Apr-27-08 11:12 AM   #34 
  - She's not tough. She only talks tough.  Connie_Corleone   Apr-27-08 11:13 AM   #35 
  - Self Destructive is not "tough"  Wolsh   Apr-27-08 11:14 AM   #38 
  - Tough?  ampad   Apr-27-08 11:16 AM   #41 
  - Either of them is tougher than Gore and Kerry combined. Go team! nt  MookieWilson   Apr-27-08 11:18 AM   #48 
  - Yes, and what was she doing in the Senate those long seven years?  dailykoff   Apr-27-08 11:24 AM   #52 
  - Tough on the Republicans.  Crunchy Frog   Apr-27-08 11:25 AM   #54 
  - Sorry, but she isn't the one.  Yael   Apr-27-08 11:25 AM   #55 
  - There are many aspects to being tough; delusional and divisive are not desirable.  Buzz Clik   Apr-27-08 11:26 AM   #56 
  - I want tough and smart and effective -- Not just tough and divisive  Armstead   Apr-27-08 11:27 AM   #57 
  - CK, you know Obama is what we were waiting for.  Katzenkavalier   Apr-27-08 11:27 AM   #58 
  - She's not tough, she's shrill. There is a big difference. n/t  Raven   Apr-27-08 11:29 AM   #59 
  - You forgot pestilence and global contagion. And fire raining down from above.  Old Crusoe   Apr-27-08 11:31 AM   #62 
  - With no oil and people with no money or jobs, how will there be any airlines? n/t  CK_John   Apr-27-08 11:34 AM   #64 
     - Look, my crystal ball's in the shop, but I think the airlines will still be  Old Crusoe   Apr-27-08 11:36 AM   #66 
        - Eos Airlines Files for Bankruptcy, Plans to Shut Down Immediately  CK_John   Apr-27-08 11:59 AM   #86 
           - Ja, I read the news but corporate consolidation is not a recent  Old Crusoe   Apr-27-08 03:00 PM   #117 
  - Thanks for stopping by, KKKarl...  zulchzulu   Apr-27-08 11:32 AM   #63 
  - We didn't mean "tough" as in "Republican-faux-tuff"  AchtungToddler   Apr-27-08 11:36 AM   #65 
  - Dumbest post of the day  donheld   Apr-27-08 11:36 AM   #67 
  - Not me.  BlueIdaho   Apr-27-08 11:38 AM   #69 
  - She is not "tough" she's a moral coward  tularetom   Apr-27-08 11:40 AM   #73 
  - Thanks for the post CK_John.  DemEtienne   Apr-27-08 11:40 AM   #74 
  - DAMN STRAIGHT! and, she will NEVER fold when counting the votes.  goldcanyonaz   Apr-27-08 11:55 AM   #82 
  - We said "tough" not PSYCHOTIC  kenny blankenship   Apr-27-08 11:41 AM   #75 
  - I voted for McGovern and don't want to do so again. n/t  CK_John   Apr-27-08 12:02 PM   #87 
     - Are you willing to destroy the Party for her ?  kenny blankenship   Apr-27-08 06:32 PM   #134 
  - She is my Senator  mdmc   Apr-27-08 11:43 AM   #78 
  - Hillary is Nasty But She is Not Tough  Ichingcarpenter   Apr-27-08 11:48 AM   #79 
  - 9/11 widows/widowers, police and firefighters would disagree with you  ruggerson   Apr-27-08 12:06 PM   #91 
  - She's only tough when it's herself on the line.  Starbucks Anarchist   Apr-27-08 11:49 AM   #80 
  - This race is a dead heat because they are both tough.  cbayer   Apr-27-08 11:52 AM   #81 
  - No, sorry, I cried out for a candidate who would defend Constition and civil liberty...  eallen   Apr-27-08 11:56 AM   #83 
  - If she had fought the Bush administration this hard she may have gotten my vote  anonymous171   Apr-27-08 11:56 AM   #84 
  - Clinton isn't a tough candidate, she is actually quite weak.  Milo_Bloom   Apr-27-08 11:56 AM   #85 
  - Ready to what? Nuke Iran? nt  thecatburgler   Apr-27-08 12:03 PM   #88 
  - What makes her "tough"? Someone needs to define that term. Because  pdxmom   Apr-27-08 12:05 PM   #89 
  - A tough candidate doesn't squeal that the rules are unfair, or blame the media for losing.  TheWraith   Apr-27-08 12:05 PM   #90 
  - Unfortunately, she only fights when SHE is the one at risk.  dkf   Apr-27-08 12:10 PM   #92 
  - We said TOUGH, not CROOKED  sampsonblk   Apr-27-08 12:10 PM   #93 
  - Well thank god  northzax   Apr-28-08 06:28 AM   #151 
  - Tough vs. obnoxious...two different things.. n/t  monmouth   Apr-27-08 12:11 PM   #94 
  - I want a tough candidate FOR US!! NOT for themselves!  calipendence   Apr-27-08 12:21 PM   #96 
  - It seems the party cannot handle "tough"  GoldieAZ49   Apr-27-08 12:23 PM   #97 
  - You're talking about one of Sibel Edmonds' dirty dozen...  calipendence   Apr-27-08 12:26 PM   #99 
  - For seven years we cried out for a non-insider candidate. Now we can't handle it...  ClassWarrior   Apr-27-08 12:25 PM   #98 
  - She's fighting for herself, not for us  high density   Apr-27-08 12:29 PM   #100 
  - But how much of that "toughness" has been directed at the enemy ...?  krkaufman   Apr-27-08 12:45 PM   #101 
  - Hillary isn't 'Rocky' tough  Kaleva   Apr-27-08 01:16 PM   #104 
  - Actually  JustAnotherGen   Apr-27-08 01:17 PM   #105 
  - I'd like strong over tough, especially when tough equals nasty.  highprincipleswork   Apr-27-08 01:24 PM   #106 
  - "Why do I always get the first question?"  chascarrillo   Apr-27-08 01:30 PM   #108 
  - I used to admire Hillary's "toughness."  smoogatz   Apr-27-08 01:50 PM   #109 
  - tough enough to take down the republicans...  jg82567   Apr-27-08 01:52 PM   #110 
  - for god sakes she is a coward. She is a spineless, yellow striped coward  burythehatchet   Apr-27-08 01:54 PM   #111 
  - LOL, we want a candidate that will starnd up to rethugs not be a rethug herself  TheDonkey   Apr-27-08 01:55 PM   #112 
  - She's not tough in the way I want her to be.  OnionPatch   Apr-27-08 02:05 PM   #114 
  - tough, yes  Cheap_Trick   Apr-27-08 02:55 PM   #115 
  - I don't want "tough"  darboy   Apr-27-08 02:57 PM   #116 
  - Tough as in ruining the Democratic Party?  Obama_for_our_future   Apr-27-08 03:33 PM   #119 
  - Clinton for Change....that's all there is to say. nt  ileus   Apr-27-08 03:50 PM   #121 
  - You have a strange definition of tough  karynnj   Apr-27-08 03:53 PM   #122 
  - AMEN /nt  sueragingroz   Apr-27-08 04:27 PM   #123 
  - We rent our clothing and wrung our hands  JoFerret   Apr-27-08 05:09 PM   #124 
  - Against McSame I have no doubt he'll be "tough" but I'd rather have smart an live vs tough & stupid  uponit7771   Apr-27-08 05:37 PM   #125 
     - Obama is a brilliant man  JoFerret   Apr-27-08 05:50 PM   #128 
  - She might be a tough candidate, but what is her motive for running?  Vinca   Apr-27-08 05:43 PM   #126 
  - there's a difference between tough and being a war-mongering brute...  Ysabel   Apr-27-08 05:44 PM   #127 
  - Seems to me we wanted a tough PROGRESSIVE candidate  depakid   Apr-27-08 05:52 PM   #129 
  - She continually whines and plays the victim  Raine   Apr-27-08 05:55 PM   #130 
  - I don't want a candidate who acts like a REpublican  IWantAnyDem   Apr-27-08 06:28 PM   #132 
  - Tough, as in in fight for what's right. When has Clinton fought for anything other than herself?  Bread and Circus   Apr-27-08 06:30 PM   #133 
  - Where was she and her 'tough' act the last 7 years? Sabotaging OTHER Democrats for BushInc.  blm   Apr-27-08 07:00 PM   #135 
  - Only the Fraidy-cats want her to quit.  MethuenProgressive   Apr-27-08 07:01 PM   #136 
  - Rovian tactics do not equal toughness.  MrSlayer   Apr-27-08 08:13 PM   #138 
  - She's tough on Dems and soft on Rethugs  eridani   Apr-27-08 08:47 PM   #139 
  - Tough? Lying and low-ball tactics are not tough. Neither is desperation. n/t  Unbowed   Apr-28-08 06:01 AM   #141 
  - Tough doesn't mean talking tough...  graycem   Apr-28-08 06:07 AM   #142 
  - Logan's Law: anything a Clintophobe says about a Clinton is a lie.  Perry Logan   Apr-28-08 06:11 AM   #143 
  - She is a lying, calculating witch! It would be a disgrace  my3boyz   Apr-28-08 06:21 AM   #147 
  - Agree, and we decried political leaders who waffled and dodged  OzarkDem   Apr-28-08 06:23 AM   #148 
  - HRC's not tough, she's had it handed to her ... she's a shameless bully.  ShortnFiery   Apr-28-08 06:24 AM   #149 
  - I would like to see a candidate who's tough against the Republicans  bklyncowgirl   Apr-28-08 06:27 AM   #150 
  - Go Hillary!  shayes51   Apr-28-08 08:24 AM   #153 
  - It's all well and good to have a tough candidate - if they fight for the right things  Gonnabuymeagun   Apr-28-08 09:18 AM   #154 
  - Triangulation is capitulation. How is that tough? eom  smiley_glad_hands   Apr-28-08 09:19 AM   #155 
 

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