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Wed Apr-30-08 12:22 AM
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| 108. Simple MATH: If remaining pledged delegates split 50/50, Clinton needs 69% of uncommitted Super Ds. |
| -Howard Dean, MTP ..."The MOST delegates wins" |
Blarch |
Apr-27-08 10:15 AM |
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Happy to be the first rec |
IDemo |
Apr-27-08 10:18 AM |
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Simple MATH: If remaining pledged delegates split 50/50, Clinton needs 69% of uncommitted Super Ds. |
tiptoe |
Apr-30-08 12:22 AM |
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The only rules Clinton follows are hers.. made up to fit her needs at the moment. |
K Gardner |
Apr-27-08 10:19 AM |
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He leaned forward and slowed his speech... |
Blarch |
Apr-27-08 10:22 AM |
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That is so friggin awesome! He put it in her face - NO SPECIAL EXCEPTIONS, clinton! |
Zhade |
Apr-27-08 04:50 PM |
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Sounds like someone I dated once and dumped |
Triana |
Apr-27-08 10:25 AM |
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"Malignant Narcissism" |
reflection |
Apr-27-08 05:29 PM |
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I saw your post... |
Captain Angry |
Apr-27-08 07:12 PM |
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Rush got it from South Park. |
reflection |
Apr-28-08 08:33 AM |
#86 |
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I have been saying this for months now |
proud2Blib |
Apr-28-08 07:16 AM |
#75 |
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Actually, Dean is wrong. 2025 are needed, he needs to stop trying to change the rules |
LVjinx |
Apr-27-08 10:06 PM |
#56 |
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No you're WRONG |
krawhitham |
Apr-28-08 01:09 AM |
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Yes... |
N4457S |
Apr-28-08 10:10 AM |
#93 |
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I guess Howard is "dead" to the Clintons? |
Va Lefty |
Apr-27-08 10:21 AM |
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Howard was "dead" to the Clintons in 2003 |
newmajority |
Apr-27-08 11:15 AM |
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I can't believe I am going to say this, but given his endorsement of Hillary |
48percenter |
Apr-28-08 08:04 AM |
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Clinton's DLC buddy, Lieberman, was also working full-time against... |
PassingFair |
Apr-28-08 09:42 AM |
#90 |
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Whoever gets to the magic number* (from pledged and super dels) gets the nomination |
4themind |
Apr-27-08 10:22 AM |
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he said ..."The rules say ..the most delegates wins" |
Blarch |
Apr-27-08 10:24 AM |
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He's right and there are two types of delegates-nt |
4themind |
Apr-27-08 11:14 AM |
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There are three types of delegates--elected, caucus and super. All count equally. (eom) |
StevieM |
Apr-27-08 04:47 PM |
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no pledged and unpledged... |
mckeown1128 |
Apr-27-08 07:29 PM |
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That is incorrect. |
Political Heretic |
Apr-28-08 02:51 AM |
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k, so let's do the math! |
evolvingsteve |
Apr-28-08 10:56 AM |
#94 |
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K/R. Hear that Hillary, "the most delegates." |
Window |
Apr-27-08 10:23 AM |
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K & R |
Scurrilous |
Apr-27-08 10:31 AM |
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Dean is the man. |
JNelson6563 |
Apr-27-08 10:31 AM |
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He made a point of the one who had the most elected and super delegates |
dmordue |
Apr-27-08 10:36 AM |
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Makes good sense. If BO is raising more $ and has a broader, deeper fundraising |
Raven |
Apr-27-08 10:39 AM |
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Especially with the new co-financing deal between the DNC and the Obama campaign. |
Zhade |
Apr-27-08 04:54 PM |
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That is the way the process is intended to work |
psychopomp |
Apr-27-08 10:41 AM |
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Well, I don't think anyone is contesting that |
dbmk |
Apr-27-08 10:43 AM |
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You ar right of course |
AZSlacker |
Apr-27-08 09:35 PM |
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Dean ... |
Blarch |
Apr-27-08 10:43 AM |
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You forgot your sarcasm drippy thing! |
greiner3 |
Apr-28-08 09:05 AM |
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Video up now. |
madfloridian |
Apr-27-08 11:19 AM |
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of course |
MonkeyFunk |
Apr-27-08 11:20 AM |
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HAHAHAHAHA!! Yeah, right, suuuure you haven't. |
Zhade |
Apr-27-08 04:55 PM |
#30 |
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Seriously |
MonkeyFunk |
Apr-27-08 05:26 PM |
#31 |
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People have argued about a plurality versus an absolute majority. |
whopis01 |
Apr-27-08 09:18 PM |
#52 |
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I've never heard that |
MonkeyFunk |
Apr-28-08 12:57 AM |
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Is it? |
Fedja |
Apr-28-08 01:14 AM |
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Did you read the OP? That was the argument being made there. |
whopis01 |
Apr-28-08 12:10 PM |
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You're telling me/us that you haven't heard the popular vote argument? |
RUMMYisFROSTED |
Apr-28-08 07:50 AM |
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And who is that argument directed at? Superdelegates who can vote as they please. |
rinsd |
Apr-28-08 03:08 PM |
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And when will that happen? |
RUMMYisFROSTED |
Apr-28-08 04:34 PM |
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Superdelegates vote at the convention. |
rinsd |
Apr-28-08 05:04 PM |
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And the leaders have made it abundantly clear that |
RUMMYisFROSTED |
Apr-29-08 08:23 AM |
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Rules is Rules |
otohara |
Apr-27-08 11:22 AM |
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I do love that good doctor! |
bbgrunt |
Apr-27-08 01:13 PM |
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That is such a great picture of Howard! |
Left coast liberal |
Apr-27-08 04:13 PM |
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Love that picture - I'm in it! |
democrattotheend |
Apr-28-08 12:03 AM |
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lol |
evolvingsteve |
Apr-29-08 10:22 PM |
#107 |
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Dean didn't take sides |
Enrique |
Apr-27-08 04:41 PM |
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Actually, the rules say... |
DemVet |
Apr-27-08 04:45 PM |
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they'll trake lots of things into consideration and hill does not |
cali |
Apr-27-08 04:49 PM |
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So when enough SDs vote to give Barack 2025 |
SoCalDem |
Apr-27-08 05:43 PM |
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Most of the SDs have already decided, and it has almost been split down the middle. |
PseudoIntellect |
Apr-27-08 05:46 PM |
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Indeed. Obama will be the nominee. |
Zhade |
Apr-27-08 04:49 PM |
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Another misleading thread: he said most SUPERdelagates |
frickaline |
Apr-27-08 05:44 PM |
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yes he said Superdelegates not delegates, however............. |
bambino |
Apr-27-08 07:24 PM |
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Bull shit. |
Blarch |
Apr-28-08 06:07 AM |
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not true - quotes enclosed |
frickaline |
Apr-28-08 09:01 AM |
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You wish (n/t) |
harun |
Apr-28-08 07:44 AM |
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as an undecided voter - I Don't *wish* ... I just read |
frickaline |
Apr-28-08 08:59 AM |
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that doesnt even make sense |
LSK |
Apr-28-08 10:02 AM |
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The rules don't have her winning, so no, she doesn't want them to be followed. |
PseudoIntellect |
Apr-27-08 05:44 PM |
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He brought me back to the Party |
MNBrewer |
Apr-27-08 07:09 PM |
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I'm glad he keeps reminding the candidates that they have responsibilities. |
Captain Angry |
Apr-27-08 07:21 PM |
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I think he's doing a really fine job with this very difficult situation |
frickaline |
Apr-27-08 07:25 PM |
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Why ask her? You know she'll just change the subject |
kenny blankenship |
Apr-27-08 07:22 PM |
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does that mean he said this on Meet the Press today? eom |
ihelpu2see |
Apr-27-08 07:26 PM |
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Yep. Russert said, "ELECTED delegates?" and Dean responded, "Delegates." |
Yossariant |
Apr-27-08 07:26 PM |
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Personally, I think this post is misleading ! He didn't say that |
Laura PackYourBags |
Apr-27-08 07:33 PM |
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He quoted the rules, and he said he did not think it would happen that way. |
madfloridian |
Apr-27-08 07:51 PM |
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You are lying... |
Blarch |
Apr-28-08 06:10 AM |
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Right - I know that - I was referring to what he said about SDs using |
Laura PackYourBags |
Apr-28-08 08:24 AM |
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Thank you, Dear Dean! |
zidzi |
Apr-27-08 07:34 PM |
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Don't be deceived. |
kentuck |
Apr-27-08 07:38 PM |
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Isn't fundraising a sign of "electability" and "popular votes" . . . ??? |
defendandprotect |
Apr-27-08 07:54 PM |
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Dean was a little shaky with his stances this morning |
mcollier |
Apr-27-08 07:59 PM |
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That's a questionable argument. |
Zynx |
Apr-27-08 09:21 PM |
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Has he single handedly chosen for the superdelegates? |
annie1 |
Apr-27-08 09:29 PM |
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There's my man! |
mzmolly |
Apr-27-08 10:23 PM |
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Well, maybe a war with the democratic party is needed |
debbierlus |
Apr-27-08 10:26 PM |
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DEMS da RULES |
psychopomp |
Apr-27-08 10:34 PM |
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Dean is right, at the end of first ballot voting, one candidate will have 2024+ delegates. |
tritsofme |
Apr-27-08 10:46 PM |
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That is a great picture. |
xxqqqzme |
Apr-27-08 11:06 PM |
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That's me in that picture! |
democrattotheend |
Apr-27-08 11:33 PM |
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You have a great, great face. So warm and genuine. n/t |
writes3000 |
Apr-28-08 12:55 AM |
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Are you the person in the cap holding up the sign? |
Apollo11 |
Apr-28-08 06:10 AM |
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Yup, that's me |
democrattotheend |
Apr-28-08 08:09 AM |
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Awesome! |
Apollo11 |
Apr-28-08 03:03 PM |
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I'm in love |
Rex_Goodheart |
Apr-28-08 07:26 AM |
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k&r |
quantass |
Apr-28-08 02:31 AM |
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That's it! Those are the rules! |
FrenchieCat |
Apr-28-08 02:49 AM |
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Howard Dean is being totally fair and balanced |
Apollo11 |
Apr-28-08 06:02 AM |
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Yep. That's how the rules of the DNC work. |
Mystery2Me |
Apr-28-08 07:32 AM |
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Hillary: "Rules? We don't need no stinkin' rules!" |
baldguy |
Apr-28-08 07:58 AM |
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That picture brings me back to the days |
Pavlovs DiOgie |
Apr-28-08 08:00 AM |
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This is just too complicated for Hillary supporters to understand... |
undeterred |
Apr-28-08 08:18 AM |
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You people are just figuring this out? |
Iggo |
Apr-28-08 09:46 AM |
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Hasn't it always been about the number of delegate that will determine |
Arkansas Granny |
Apr-28-08 11:17 AM |
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Go Howard- |
knixphan |
Apr-28-08 11:23 AM |
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Good-bye Hillary. Good-bye Bubba. Take your racist bullshit somewhere else. |
Major Hogwash |
Apr-28-08 12:23 PM |
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the most DELEGATES... that includes super that can use any measuring stick. |
Texas Hill Country |
Apr-28-08 12:24 PM |
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Delegates = Pledged + Supers. Pop vote is an argument for SUPERS. |
rinsd |
Apr-28-08 03:06 PM |
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No it's not a popular vote at all as it woud be just the big states counted they wouldn't... |
barack the house |
Apr-30-08 12:56 AM |
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kick |
azmouse |
Apr-28-08 05:47 PM |
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There is no popular vote delegates are assigned so small states are counted. |
barack the house |
Apr-30-08 12:53 AM |
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YES |
Ramonna Villota |
Apr-30-08 12:53 AM |
#110 |
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Supers are delegates too...and they both will need them |
ElsewheresDaughter |
Apr-30-08 01:03 AM |
#112 |
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