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ruggerson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-26-08 08:05 PM
Response to Reply #56
60. the two other writers at TNR you used as an example are Obama flacks
Edited on Sat Apr-26-08 08:05 PM by ruggerson
Cass Sunstein knows him from U of Chicago Law School

"In January 2008, Sunstein began dating the prominent foreign policy specialist Samantha Power whom he met while working on Illinois Democratic senator Barack Obama's presidential campaign"

Jason Zengerle is an Obama zealot who has some serious credibility problems with the liberal blogosphere and, according to this source, has apparently "fabricated emails" in order to discredit his web enemies.

Neither of them can be taken even remotely seriously.
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  -Why do Clinton supporters keep saying Obama played the race card? my3boyz  Apr-26-08 06:21 PM   #0 
  - Because part of her strategy is to call him out for playing the race card. . .  wndycty   Apr-26-08 06:22 PM   #1 
  - Dead on accurate.  ecdab   Apr-26-08 08:15 PM   #66 
  - May 13, 2007 - Obama interviewed in This Week by Clinton butt-kisser Stephanopoulus  TahitiNut   Apr-26-08 09:03 PM   #83 
  - Obama plays the race card?  DearAbby   Apr-26-08 06:25 PM   #2 
  - because like hillary and bill they're consumate liars  cali   Apr-26-08 06:25 PM   #3 
  - No. They believe it to be true.  JoFerret   Apr-26-08 06:27 PM   #6 
     - Gullible, then. nt  NCevilDUer   Apr-26-08 07:03 PM   #32 
        - Not at all  JoFerret   Apr-26-08 07:51 PM   #53 
           - A Lie Is Not "A Different Point Of View" - It's Just A Lie  JimGinPA   Apr-26-08 08:22 PM   #71 
           - Black and white thinking is sexist.  dailykoff   Apr-26-08 08:25 PM   #73 
           - Whatever  JoFerret   Apr-26-08 08:40 PM   #76 
           - treachery is a different point of view  lisa58   Apr-26-08 08:41 PM   #77 
              - Obama is not a traitor.  JoFerret   Apr-26-08 08:45 PM   #79 
           - Truth does not have a point of view.  NCevilDUer   Apr-26-08 08:39 PM   #75 
              - Ah Truth  JoFerret   Apr-26-08 08:42 PM   #78 
                 - Fine. No problem. Just don't publicly ascribe it to Obama playing  NCevilDUer   Apr-26-08 09:06 PM   #84 
                    - Enough already.  JoFerret   Apr-26-08 09:07 PM   #85 
  - Oh hell! It is simple. HRC had no need to play the race card. Damn!  BenDavid   Apr-26-08 06:26 PM   #4 
  - I seem to remember  Mojorabbit   Apr-26-08 06:35 PM   #16 
  - If memory serves, the "Jesse Jackson" comment happened the morning of the SC Primary.  VolcanoJen   Apr-26-08 06:37 PM   #20 
  - Yeah, and we know Bill doesn't lie.  Window   Apr-26-08 07:29 PM   #40 
  - But Obama had no choice?  JoFerret   Apr-26-08 08:46 PM   #80 
  - Because they believe it to be true  JoFerret   Apr-26-08 06:26 PM   #5 
  - SOP  Liberal Gramma   Apr-26-08 06:27 PM   #7 
  - It's the "Race Card Card".  tekisui   Apr-26-08 06:27 PM   #8 
  - Because he's black.  baldguy   Apr-26-08 06:27 PM   #9 
  - And he's winning.  dailykoff   Apr-26-08 06:35 PM   #18 
  - The nerve of the man!  Gore1FL   Apr-26-08 07:38 PM   #45 
  - To Distract from hilary playing the  zidzi   Apr-26-08 06:27 PM   # 
  - Karl Rove Says: Attack Your Opponent On YOUR OWN Weakness  MannyGoldstein   Apr-26-08 06:27 PM   #10 
  - Here's a recent untruthiness OP & what Obama actually said:  A-Schwarzenegger   Apr-26-08 06:29 PM   #11 
  - and where is the word black, brown, or  intaglio   Apr-26-08 06:46 PM   #25 
     - He was probably thinking it  EffieBlack   Apr-26-08 06:52 PM   #27 
  - Becasue they're full of shit.  Mooney   Apr-26-08 06:29 PM   #12 
  - Monkey projection  Catherina   Apr-26-08 06:31 PM   #13 
  - Because its a cliche, that's nebulous enough to be fit to the writer's intent. Heck  4themind   Apr-26-08 06:33 PM   #14 
  - Because lying is part of their stratagy.  bowens43   Apr-26-08 06:33 PM   #15 
  - Obama has been playing the race card since he left Jethro in Alabama and took up with Pookie.  Yossariant   Apr-26-08 06:35 PM   #17 
  - Because that's what racists do when they get caught being racist towards blacks.  TexasObserver   Apr-26-08 06:36 PM   #19 
  - Thank you. It really is that simple.  VolcanoJen   Apr-26-08 06:54 PM   #29 
     - TO nails it again.  dailykoff   Apr-26-08 07:29 PM   #41 
  - Desperation  sniffa   Apr-26-08 06:37 PM   #21 
  - The Clinton meme is to accuse Obama of everything bad the Clinton camp has done. n/t  cui bono   Apr-26-08 06:39 PM   #22 
  - tri-ang-u-lation  clevbot   Apr-26-08 06:39 PM   #23 
  - Off the top of my head I'll give you a couple times....  yadayadayada   Apr-26-08 06:43 PM   #24 
  - I know it's a waste of time, but here's my response to your claims  EffieBlack   Apr-26-08 06:51 PM   #26 
  - You don't need to be insulting to me. Get over yourself.  yadayadayada   Apr-26-08 07:06 PM   #35 
  - FYI, WJC ain't black.  NCevilDUer   Apr-26-08 07:28 PM   #39 
  - early in the campaign...  jbm   Apr-26-08 06:53 PM   #28 
  - I've heard from several sources that there's proof out there  sniffa   Apr-26-08 06:55 PM   #30 
  - when I talk about proof, I'm only referencing the written strategy..  jbm   Apr-26-08 07:04 PM   #34 
     - He knew that, he's just being an Obama supporter. nt  yadayadayada   Apr-26-08 07:25 PM   #37 
     - thanks for the reassurance...  jbm   Apr-26-08 08:05 PM   #61 
     - Proof that you somehow just can't quite come up with,  NCevilDUer   Apr-26-08 07:31 PM   #43 
        - typical Obama supporter ...  Shae   Apr-26-08 08:12 PM   #64 
  - "proof is floating around out there somewhere"  A-Schwarzenegger   Apr-26-08 07:03 PM   #33 
  - Her campaign questioned whether he was a drug dealer  sandnsea   Apr-26-08 07:49 PM   #52 
  - Just another Rovian tactic they've adopted.  NCevilDUer   Apr-26-08 07:01 PM   #31 
  - dishonesty and or an extremely distorted sense of reality based on a lack of ethics, hatred, and arr  jr7   Apr-26-08 07:12 PM   #36 
  - 'Cause like their leader, they'll say anything. Doesn't have to be true, just say anything.  Window   Apr-26-08 07:28 PM   #38 
  - They say "Obama took it out of context." In fact, it was supporters and the media  tasteblind   Apr-26-08 07:30 PM   #42 
  - the term race card itself is racist  JI7   Apr-26-08 07:33 PM   #44 
  - DING! We have a winner! .nt  anigbrowl   Apr-26-08 07:38 PM   #46 
  - And saying it, and saying it.  dailykoff   Apr-26-08 07:39 PM   #47 
  - Projection.  Zhade   Apr-26-08 07:40 PM   #48 
  - If you really want to know, read this piece from the New Republic  ruggerson   Apr-26-08 07:43 PM   #49 
  - Wilentz is a flack whose own editors at TNR reamed him as a racist.  dailykoff   Apr-26-08 07:48 PM   #51 
  - Wilentz is a widely respected professor at Princeton  ruggerson   Apr-26-08 07:52 PM   #54 
  - Doesn't mean he's not a liar, a racist and a flack.  dailykoff   Apr-26-08 07:54 PM   #56 
     - the two other writers at TNR you used as an example are Obama flacks  ruggerson   Apr-26-08 08:05 PM   #60 
        - Supporting a candidate doesn't make one a flack. Lying does.  dailykoff   Apr-26-08 08:15 PM   #65 
           - Sorry, they're both discredited  ruggerson   Apr-26-08 08:17 PM   #67 
              - Only the liar was discredited, publicly, in his own publication.  dailykoff   Apr-26-08 08:19 PM   #68 
                 - the only reputable one of the three is Wilentz  ruggerson   Apr-26-08 08:21 PM   #69 
                    - Your personal opinion isn't worth a hill of beans, sorry. (n/t)  dailykoff   Apr-26-08 08:23 PM   #72 
                       - please keep responding so more people will read the article  ruggerson   Apr-26-08 08:34 PM   #74 
                          - Sure. And here's that link again:  dailykoff   Apr-26-08 09:11 PM   #87 
                             - And here's the New Republic link  ruggerson   Apr-26-08 09:27 PM   #91 
  - Link:  dailykoff   Apr-26-08 07:53 PM   #55 
  - that's a very well researched article  jbm   Apr-26-08 09:08 PM   #86 
  - Projection! Bubba Clinton will NOT ever recover with the AA Community ...  ShortnFiery   Apr-26-08 07:43 PM   #50 
  - It's a republican (Rove) tactic. Blame your opponent for stuff YOU are doing  SoCalDem   Apr-26-08 07:58 PM   #57 
  - I don't understand it either.  groovytang   Apr-26-08 07:58 PM   #58 
  - Here's One Example  Crisco   Apr-26-08 08:04 PM   #59 
  - Because all they know how to do is SPIN and LIE !  RBInMaine   Apr-26-08 08:06 PM   #62 
  - It first happened when he accused Bill Clinton of playing the race card...  ginchinchili   Apr-26-08 08:11 PM   #63 
  - It's typical Rovian tactic - accuse your opponent first of exactly what you're doing in hopes that  AZBlue   Apr-26-08 08:21 PM   #70 
  - Read this (it will take a while)  JoFerret   Apr-26-08 08:51 PM   #81 
  - That's not writing, that's typing.  dailykoff   Apr-26-08 08:58 PM   #82 
  - Close your ears and eyes  JoFerret   Apr-26-08 09:21 PM   #90 
  - Reading that will make Obama followers tear up their membership cards.  MethuenProgressive   Apr-26-08 09:20 PM   #89 
  - Obama apologizes for memo plot to play race card, tells staff to never do it again. Link:  MethuenProgressive   Apr-26-08 09:17 PM   #88 
  - It's Rovian Projection... i.e.. accuse your opponent of the things YOU are doing.....  scheming daemons   Apr-26-08 09:36 PM   #92 
  - Republican tricks...  stillcool47   Apr-26-08 09:45 PM   #93 

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