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Fri Apr-25-08 08:27 PM
Response to Reply #74 |
| 78. I think that Rove has everything to do with it. |
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I'm willing to go down as a conspiracy theorist for it, but I truly believe that neither of our Dems would have gone negative without bad advice...advice that comes from the party who has the most to gain. That party should be obvious.
Neither of them can admit it now, because admitting to being duped is akin to political suicide. The Repukes would paint you as unwise and untrustworthy. But I believe that both of them were duped by the most conniving political machine in the world--the machine built by Karl Rove.
Like I said--if you want to find out who's to blame, just ask yourself who has the most to gain. From division in our party? It isn't Democrats. It's THEM--the Rovian political machine. This is truly the only way that they have any hope of winning, and they damned well know it. There is no greater enemy than a coward, because a coward literally has nothing of value left to lose, and will resort to ANYTHING to win.
I won't be fooled and I won't be a pawn in his game. In the end...I hope you join me. I love all people who are committed to a Democratic win.
Peace,
Oktoberain
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| -A "Unity Ticket" IS possible! |
oktoberain |
Apr-25-08 06:15 PM |
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Hillary will not return to the White House. Not now, not ever! |
JackORoses |
Apr-25-08 06:16 PM |
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Thank goodness that you |
oktoberain |
Apr-25-08 06:34 PM |
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Get a hint: She's a loser, and will tank any ticket she is on. Please stop begging. n/t |
PoliticalAmazon |
Apr-25-08 07:23 PM |
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there will be a third party challenge from the right |
terrell9584 |
Apr-25-08 06:26 PM |
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We can hope, certainly. |
oktoberain |
Apr-25-08 06:30 PM |
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BO and HRC will not be on the same ticket. sry HRC |
datopbanana |
Apr-25-08 06:27 PM |
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Ah! The IM generation makes an appearance! |
oktoberain |
Apr-25-08 06:37 PM |
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IM language as in shorter and faster right? so why would you use 1 as i, @ as a, and 3 as e? |
datopbanana |
Apr-25-08 06:42 PM |
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Trying to be cutesy. |
redqueen |
Apr-25-08 06:44 PM |
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like i's dotted with hearts? |
datopbanana |
Apr-25-08 06:47 PM |
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You must be a Hillary supporter. Only a Hillary supporter would insult someone... |
PoliticalAmazon |
Apr-25-08 07:24 PM |
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That is disrespectful. |
Genevieve |
Apr-25-08 07:39 PM |
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I'm sorry. |
oktoberain |
Apr-25-08 08:09 PM |
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I still disagree with you -- HRC on the ticket |
Genevieve |
Apr-25-08 08:44 PM |
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Thank you |
oktoberain |
Apr-25-08 09:09 PM |
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Ugh. |
redqueen |
Apr-25-08 06:27 PM |
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And it's possible to make a shit sandwich. |
Bornaginhooligan |
Apr-25-08 06:28 PM |
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Meh |
blogslut |
Apr-25-08 06:28 PM |
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Ah...today's secret word makes another appearance... |
No Surrender |
Apr-25-08 06:29 PM |
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Oh, how cute. |
oktoberain |
Apr-25-08 06:35 PM |
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Your mincing around with your smiley faces and your happy talk |
redqueen |
Apr-25-08 06:36 PM |
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Any time someone says the secret word SCREAM real loud!!! |
Dieter |
Apr-25-08 06:35 PM |
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I'm sorry you're so bitter. |
oktoberain |
Apr-25-08 06:35 PM |
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Peace to you too. |
Dieter |
Apr-25-08 06:37 PM |
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We have a winna!!!! |
RainDog |
Apr-25-08 06:36 PM |
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Fail. |
oktoberain |
Apr-25-08 06:38 PM |
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the party is divided b/c of Hillary's tactics, b/c she won't drop out |
RainDog |
Apr-25-08 06:46 PM |
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That's your opinion |
oktoberain |
Apr-25-08 06:49 PM |
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riiiight |
RainDog |
Apr-25-08 06:56 PM |
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If you're ignoring the wishes of nearly half of the party |
oktoberain |
Apr-25-08 07:03 PM |
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half the party has not expressed a wish to see Hillary as vp |
RainDog |
Apr-25-08 07:21 PM |
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Honestly? I don't believe in anyone as a "kingmaker" |
oktoberain |
Apr-25-08 08:43 PM |
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Oktoberain |
RainDog |
Apr-25-08 09:22 PM |
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I wish I could agree with you. |
oktoberain |
Apr-25-08 09:34 PM |
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If Obama picked Hillary as a VP, he'd have to spend all his time |
Skidmore |
Apr-25-08 06:30 PM |
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That's fine! Mainstream America is not You. |
oktoberain |
Apr-25-08 06:32 PM |
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Getting their way? GETTING THEIR FUCKING WAY? |
redqueen |
Apr-25-08 06:35 PM |
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Obama has already nixed that idea |
RainDog |
Apr-25-08 06:41 PM |
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Did you see this? |
redqueen |
Apr-25-08 06:42 PM |
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she and Bill dug their own graves |
RainDog |
Apr-25-08 06:54 PM |
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Thanks. |
redqueen |
Apr-25-08 06:55 PM |
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Look at what the main stream has gotten us for the past few years... |
butterfly77 |
Apr-25-08 06:52 PM |
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You don't seem to understand one very important fact |
oktoberain |
Apr-25-08 06:59 PM |
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You are WRONG. Republicans and Democrats don't want Hillary. n/t |
PoliticalAmazon |
Apr-25-08 07:27 PM |
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NEVER. |
Lucky 13 |
Apr-25-08 06:47 PM |
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EVER. |
datopbanana |
Apr-25-08 06:48 PM |
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We will see unity when Sen. Clinton gets out the vote for the Obama ticket |
psychopomp |
Apr-25-08 08:24 PM |
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I believe D.U. is better informed than much of mainstream America, the corporate media have been |
Uncle Joe |
Apr-25-08 06:48 PM |
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Of course we're more informed |
oktoberain |
Apr-25-08 06:51 PM |
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You are half-right. HRC needs BO but BO sure as hell doesn't need HRC |
datopbanana |
Apr-25-08 06:53 PM |
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The nation likes both? What nation are you talking about? |
redqueen |
Apr-25-08 06:53 PM |
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Agreed. She's like genital warts: nobody wants them, and everybody wants them to go away. n/t |
PoliticalAmazon |
Apr-25-08 07:28 PM |
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I'm not following the corporate media's lead anymore. n/t |
Uncle Joe |
Apr-25-08 06:53 PM |
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No the nation does NOT like both -- |
Genevieve |
Apr-25-08 07:47 PM |
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If Hillary's negatives were that high |
oktoberain |
Apr-25-08 08:12 PM |
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The nation does not like both . . . |
Shae |
Apr-25-08 08:09 PM |
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Anecdotal evidence is a two-edged sword |
oktoberain |
Apr-25-08 08:19 PM |
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I understand that it was anecdotal . . . |
Shae |
Apr-25-08 08:34 PM |
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I understand. |
oktoberain |
Apr-25-08 09:05 PM |
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Thank you, I cannot BELIEVE the people who try and point out anecdotal evidence |
musicblind |
Apr-25-08 08:36 PM |
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WRONG! |
butterfly77 |
Apr-25-08 06:49 PM |
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Exactly. The first tri-presidency would be a disaster |
IDemo |
Apr-25-08 06:52 PM |
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Understandable |
oktoberain |
Apr-25-08 06:55 PM |
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Any ticket with Hillary on it will lose. |
Radical Activist |
Apr-25-08 07:03 PM |
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That's only because the die-hards are speaking out of loyalty |
oktoberain |
Apr-25-08 07:12 PM |
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No. In the general election among all voters she never reaches abover 50%. |
Radical Activist |
Apr-25-08 07:14 PM |
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I've studied the stats and I just don't see that. |
oktoberain |
Apr-25-08 07:27 PM |
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The fact is that the numbers will not skyrocket. |
Kitsune |
Apr-25-08 07:17 PM |
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Sorry, but I just don't buy it. |
oktoberain |
Apr-25-08 07:25 PM |
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Republicans did not create this mess. |
Kitsune |
Apr-25-08 07:35 PM |
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I understand your anger |
oktoberain |
Apr-25-08 08:05 PM |
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lol |
Genevieve |
Apr-25-08 07:14 PM |
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RE: "..those who oppose it due to personal grudges and biases" What about those of |
AlinPA |
Apr-25-08 07:30 PM |
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Her mocking us during her RI speech is reason enough to hold |
Genevieve |
Apr-25-08 07:36 PM |
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And peace to you. |
oktoberain |
Apr-25-08 07:37 PM |
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I was expecting to be called a hater and a Rove pawn. I voted since 1960 and |
AlinPA |
Apr-25-08 07:42 PM |
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Actually I agree with you, |
oktoberain |
Apr-25-08 07:49 PM |
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I hope that I'm wrong, but I still sense that I'm being pegged a hater and that I'm falling |
AlinPA |
Apr-25-08 08:17 PM |
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I think that Rove has everything to do with it. |
oktoberain |
Apr-25-08 08:27 PM |
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So you think Karl Rove influenced me? That I'm a pawn? Goodbye. |
AlinPA |
Apr-25-08 08:31 PM |
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Sorry you chose to take my words that way, |
oktoberain |
Apr-25-08 09:04 PM |
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You are trying hard with your point and that is very meritorious, |
AlinPA |
Apr-25-08 09:12 PM |
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My apologies. I didn't meant to imply |
oktoberain |
Apr-25-08 09:17 PM |
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I will not vote Hillary Clinton for Vice President |
DearAbby |
Apr-25-08 07:38 PM |
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I'm sorry, I truly am. |
oktoberain |
Apr-25-08 07:42 PM |
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Nope...I will never vote for Clinton EVER |
DearAbby |
Apr-25-08 07:47 PM |
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Well then |
oktoberain |
Apr-25-08 07:53 PM |
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Too you as well....Best wishes |
DearAbby |
Apr-25-08 07:55 PM |
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I think that ticket would be a one/two punch... |
and-justice-for-all |
Apr-25-08 07:46 PM |
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And I agree wholeheartedly |
oktoberain |
Apr-25-08 07:55 PM |
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In 2012? |
Asgaya Dihi |
Apr-25-08 08:24 PM |
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Sorry--my miscalculation. |
oktoberain |
Apr-25-08 08:28 PM |
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Sure thing |
Asgaya Dihi |
Apr-25-08 08:30 PM |
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I am thrilled DU is not close to being mainstream America |
Samantha |
Apr-25-08 08:41 PM |
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I understand your anger and frustration. |
oktoberain |
Apr-25-08 08:59 PM |
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You misunderstood - I am neither angry or frustrated |
Samantha |
Apr-25-08 09:12 PM |
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I understand. |
oktoberain |
Apr-25-08 09:22 PM |
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It isn't going to happen. Neither wants to be VP. But the arrogance of those who so easily |
StevieM |
Apr-25-08 08:48 PM |
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It's wrong, StevieM. |
oktoberain |
Apr-25-08 09:02 PM |
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Hillary will cause Obama to lose the Indies. |
hnmnf |
Apr-25-08 09:38 PM |
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kicking...because I believe |
oktoberain |
Apr-25-08 10:34 PM |
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