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jackson_dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-25-08 10:49 PM
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245. Here is a poll. His indie appeal is declining as he gets more known
No surprise there. That is political reality. It is a fairy tale that he would be stronger in November than he is now when he is undefined and the rethug machine hasn't savaged him for months.





If he loses 25% or fewer of that demographic he is a toast. Do people here realize how large a voting bloc whites are? If Obama loses 25% of white Dems he is toast.
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  -Obama's absymal performance among White Democrats. NJSecularist  Apr-25-08 03:54 PM   #0 
  - I will never understand the logic of equating the primaries to the general election...  GarbagemanLB   Apr-25-08 03:56 PM   #1 
  - It's not logic: it's spin  Hardhead   Apr-25-08 04:07 PM   #25 
  - seconded.  knixphan   Apr-25-08 07:52 PM   #196 
  - in a caucus  northzax   Apr-25-08 08:09 PM   #221 
     - Caucus vs. primary is beside the point  Hardhead   Apr-26-08 11:45 AM   #271 
  - Not logic. It's CalvinBall. n/t  PoliticalAmazon   Apr-25-08 04:08 PM   #27 
  - It's like the Yankees bragging about losing 10-2 in a baseball game instead of 10-0  NJSecularist   Apr-25-08 04:08 PM   #28 
  - Please answer the question. Why will the majority of Hillary's base vote for McCain over Obama?  GarbagemanLB   Apr-25-08 04:09 PM   #30 
  - Is her support coming from Reagan democrats and values voters?  dmordue   Apr-25-08 04:12 PM   #40 
  - I never said the majority. I said enough to swing the election. n/t  NJSecularist   Apr-25-08 04:12 PM   #41 
     - Bingo!@ nt  Jim4Wes   Apr-25-08 04:56 PM   #96 
     - Eureka! I think he's got it. nt  Jim4Wes   Apr-25-08 04:57 PM   #97 
     - Holy cow! that makes sense.  Jim4Wes   Apr-25-08 04:57 PM   #98 
     - .  Abacus   Apr-25-08 10:13 PM   #242 
     - EXACTLY!  zlt234   Apr-26-08 11:17 AM   #268 
  - No - it's like a football team pretending they got a first down when they're a yard short . . .  EffieBlack   Apr-25-08 04:25 PM   #59 
  - Whoever your candidate  shadowknows69   Apr-25-08 05:04 PM   #106 
  - You forgot such states as Vermont  cali   Apr-25-08 07:10 PM   #153 
     - Maine and Vermont are reliably Democratic states.  NJSecularist   Apr-25-08 07:16 PM   #160 
        - she won't get the chance. she's done.  cali   Apr-25-08 07:32 PM   #183 
        - Whatever you say. You continue to not address my points and instead engage in cognitive dissonance.  NJSecularist   Apr-25-08 07:33 PM   #186 
        - Pointing out the obvious  JoFerret   Apr-26-08 02:16 PM   #274 
        - RE: BEG TO DIFFER  cjsmom44   Apr-26-08 05:54 AM   #262 
  - New Map  gbrenna   Apr-25-08 07:17 PM   #161 
  - Where is Obama going to win 270 electorate votes without Florida and Ohio?  NJSecularist   Apr-25-08 07:26 PM   #171 
  - New Map  gbrenna   Apr-25-08 08:04 PM   #217 
  - Your post is fine, and welcome to DU.  Straight Shooter   Apr-25-08 07:28 PM   #175 
     - Thanks!  gbrenna   Apr-25-08 07:52 PM   #199 
  - Especially when you translate the results to the electoral college  JoFerret   Apr-26-08 06:53 AM   #266 
  - You want us to keep it civil after that subject line?  sparosnare   Apr-25-08 03:56 PM   #2 
  - It's the truth. Obama has done terribly among white Democrats.  NJSecularist   Apr-25-08 04:09 PM   #29 
     - Absolutely not true. Hillary is more successful with whites of certain...  PoliticalAmazon   Apr-25-08 04:14 PM   #44 
     - Huh?  NJSecularist   Apr-25-08 04:51 PM   #90 
     - Your inaccurate insult of young voters is disgusting...  PoliticalAmazon   Apr-25-08 05:29 PM   # 
     - Duplicate deleted.  PoliticalAmazon   Apr-25-08 05:29 PM   #121 
     - The numbers speak for themselves. When you lost white Dems 70-28 that cuts across age  jackson_dem   Apr-25-08 07:02 PM   #150 
     - old? You mean over thirty-five?  northzax   Apr-25-08 08:13 PM   #223 
     - no it's not "the truth". it's your opinion  cali   Apr-25-08 07:12 PM   #155 
     - No, it's a fact.  NJSecularist   Apr-25-08 07:27 PM   #174 
     - And you conveniently ignore almost all the states he's won  gmudem   Apr-25-08 07:52 PM   #197 
        - All of them caucuses states. What's your point?  NJSecularist   Apr-25-08 08:19 PM   #225 
  - I'll be back.  CreekDog   Apr-25-08 03:56 PM   #3 
  - Maybe we should make the primaries whites only the way we used to  democrattotheend   Apr-25-08 03:57 PM   #4 
  - Because we are picking a Democratic nominee.  NJSecularist   Apr-25-08 04:10 PM   #33 
  - Whtie Democratic vote is now more important because Hillary wants it that way. n/t  PoliticalAmazon   Apr-25-08 04:15 PM   #46 
  - No, the argument is GE electability since GE demographics are different than primary demographics  jackson_dem   Apr-25-08 07:06 PM   #151 
  - GREAT point!  EffieBlack   Apr-25-08 04:26 PM   #60 
     - Very true, and I am sick of it. And I'm white, if that matters.  democrattotheend   Apr-25-08 04:43 PM   #82 
        - That is an example of what I am talking about. Here is the MS result with GE demographics  jackson_dem   Apr-25-08 07:11 PM   #154 
           - Not to mention the fact that it will be miracle if Obama wins 60% of the Latino vote.  NJSecularist   Apr-25-08 07:23 PM   # 
  - Since when did you support Hillary?  AX10   Apr-25-08 03:57 PM   #5 
  - Exactly what I was thinking...  Kittycat   Apr-25-08 03:58 PM   #10 
  - The night of the PA primary  democrattotheend   Apr-25-08 03:59 PM   #13 
  - I've had questions about Obama's electability for a month now.  NJSecularist   Apr-25-08 04:11 PM   #36 
     - "blown out"? he took 11 pts away from HRC's previous 20-pt lead  ima_sinnic   Apr-25-08 05:13 PM   #109 
  - So in your opinion Democrats are racists?  bowens43   Apr-25-08 03:57 PM   #6 
  - When did I ever say that?  NJSecularist   Apr-25-08 04:11 PM   #38 
  - yea them dammed nigras is unlektabelll *chew spit*  dionysus   Apr-25-08 03:58 PM   #7 
  - Oh no! White people won't vote for a black guy!  sfexpat2000   Apr-25-08 03:58 PM   #8 
  - Chris Dodd is black? He got 0% of the white vote. Obama just has limited appeal beyond his ethnicity  jackson_dem   Apr-25-08 07:13 PM   #156 
     - another lying piece of racist shit from the king of that genre  cali   Apr-25-08 07:16 PM   #159 
        - Where's the appeal?  NJSecularist   Apr-25-08 07:20 PM   #165 
           - Saying Obama loses whites due to racism is like saying Richardson lost due to racism  jackson_dem   Apr-25-08 07:53 PM   #200 
           - What? His position on the issues is almost the same as Hillary's  ecdab   Apr-25-08 09:14 PM   #227 
  - Fatal flaw in logic  nichomachus   Apr-25-08 03:58 PM   #9 
  - You can't argue that with HillFans.  Kittycat   Apr-25-08 04:01 PM   #15 
  - Agreed, it's a flawed interpretation of the data  Hippo_Tron   Apr-25-08 04:10 PM   #35 
  - Of course he would win most but the $270 question is how many?  jackson_dem   Apr-25-08 07:15 PM   #158 
  - If you are registered as a Democrat, you are a Democrat.  NJSecularist   Apr-25-08 04:13 PM   #43 
  - Furthermore, I think a lot of them will vote McCain in November if Hillary gets the nom. nt  thecatburgler   Apr-25-08 05:23 PM   #117 
  - and those are the people who get to vote in november  northzax   Apr-25-08 08:28 PM   #226 
  - I'm sure they'll all vote McCain right?  haymakeragain   Apr-25-08 03:59 PM   #11 
  - You're right. those people will vote for more war, less health care & GOP econ policies :rolleyes:  uponit7771   Apr-25-08 03:59 PM   #12 
  - In 2000 and in 2004 why not 2008?  dmordue   Apr-25-08 04:34 PM   #71 
  - It's less abysmal than Clinton's performance among African American Democrats  orangepeel68   Apr-25-08 04:00 PM   #14 
  - HuffPo: Irreparable Breach Between Clinton And Blacks Is Foreseeable  Kittycat   Apr-25-08 04:06 PM   #23 
     - Don't forget young people.  Starbucks Anarchist   Apr-25-08 06:22 PM   #136 
        - That recent Politico post summed the issue up, rather well.  krkaufman   Apr-26-08 12:59 PM   #273 
  - I'm hoping that all the disgusted repukes will vote Obama.  crim son   Apr-25-08 04:01 PM   #16 
  - Try The Mirror Of This Argument, Sir  The Magistrate   Apr-25-08 04:02 PM   #17 
  - bravo - well done  Jersey Devil   Apr-25-08 04:06 PM   #22 
  - Blacks have voted for Democrats for 30 years.  NJSecularist   Apr-25-08 04:16 PM   #47 
  - And Whites Who Identify As Democrats Tend, Too, To Vote For Democrats, Sir  The Magistrate   Apr-25-08 04:27 PM   #62 
  - Tell that to John Kerry.  NJSecularist   Apr-25-08 04:30 PM   # 
     - So You Are Saying, Sir, that White Democrats Will Not Vote For A White Candidate Either?  The Magistrate   Apr-25-08 04:38 PM   #76 
        - No, what I am saying is that there is a certain type of candidate will appeal to these voters.  NJSecularist   Apr-25-08 04:42 PM   #80 
        - This Can Be Played From A Number Of Angles, Sir  The Magistrate   Apr-25-08 04:49 PM   #89 
           - Hillary does about equal among White Democratic males as Obama.  NJSecularist   Apr-25-08 04:57 PM   #99 
           - But We Have Got Beyond That Already, Sir, In This Little Exercise  The Magistrate   Apr-25-08 05:08 PM   #107 
           - What is happening now is apples and oranges to the 2004 primary.  NJSecularist   Apr-25-08 05:13 PM   #108 
              - Primary Elections And General Elections Are Apples And Oranges, Sir  The Magistrate   Apr-25-08 05:23 PM   #116 
                 - Amen  beat tk   Apr-25-08 05:31 PM   #123 
           - I'm sorry, but Obama does extremely well against Clinton among men....  beat tk   Apr-25-08 05:22 PM   #114 
           - There will be but she more than offsets that by getting more female support than Obama  jackson_dem   Apr-25-08 07:18 PM   #163 
              - More female support, more Latino support, more core Democratic support.  NJSecularist   Apr-25-08 07:25 PM   #169 
                 - The only shot Obama has is indies and they will peel away as he gets vetted, attacked as "too libera  jackson_dem   Apr-25-08 07:56 PM   #205 
                    - McCain likely win more indies as Obama gets vetted.  NJSecularist   Apr-25-08 07:59 PM   #210 
                    - That is the common sense strategy  jackson_dem   Apr-25-08 08:05 PM   #218 
                       - Solid Democrats - i.e. people that vote on Democratic issues and  ecdab   Apr-25-08 09:23 PM   #229 
                    - Good chance of that  JoFerret   Apr-26-08 03:10 PM   #275 
        - Obama is a much weaker candidate than Clinton for GE  jackson_dem   Apr-25-08 07:17 PM   #162 
           - The undemocratic caucus system has given Obama his delegate margins.  NJSecularist   Apr-25-08 07:30 PM   #180 
  - This may be the wrong year to take black voters for granted, assuming that they have nowhere else to  EffieBlack   Apr-25-08 04:30 PM   #65 
  - Which is an interesting proposition: is not nominating Obama an affront to the other 40 million AA's  jackson_dem   Apr-25-08 07:22 PM   #167 
  - They may sit this one out ... Hillary has turned into the WHITE candidate  LSparkle   Apr-25-08 04:42 PM   #79 
  - Clinton wins outside of her ethnic group. She wins Latinos 2:1 and Asians by almost as much  jackson_dem   Apr-25-08 07:23 PM   #168 
     - Yet loses the historically most loyal Dem constituency by HUGE margins?  LSparkle   Apr-25-08 07:28 PM   #176 
        - She will not lose the most loyal Dem constituency by a huge margin in the GE.  NJSecularist   Apr-25-08 07:35 PM   #190 
        - You (like your candidate) are taking a LOT of people for granted ...  LSparkle   Apr-25-08 07:49 PM   #194 
        - So did Dukakis in the 88' primaries (10-90). What happened when Dukakis had a white GE opponent?  jackson_dem   Apr-25-08 07:54 PM   #201 
  - They are loyal and this is their reward?  jefferson_dem   Apr-25-08 05:24 PM   # 
     - Latinos are too. So Richardson should be named VP or else it is giving the finger to 15% of the USA?  jackson_dem   Apr-25-08 07:57 PM   #208 
  - I love you . . .  EffieBlack   Apr-25-08 04:27 PM   #61 
  - so none of the white folks who voted for Hillary will vote for Obama.  bunnies   Apr-25-08 04:02 PM   #18 
  - That's really what this thread amounts to - the claim that most white Democrats are racist  ecdab   Apr-25-08 09:33 PM   #230 
  - Here you go  Indenturedebtor   Apr-25-08 04:02 PM   #19 
  - Deleted message  Name removed   Apr-25-08 04:03 PM   #20 
  - Deleted message  Name removed   Apr-25-08 04:10 PM   #31 
  - Those are your own words, not mine. I never said such a thing. n/t  NJSecularist   Apr-25-08 04:17 PM   #48 
  - You are ignoring the concept of Clinton loyalty  Hippo_Tron   Apr-25-08 04:05 PM   #21 
  - For now. But as a trend, the more voters get to know Hillary, the more they move...  PoliticalAmazon   Apr-25-08 04:12 PM   #39 
  - If Obama were white, he wouldn't be getting 90% of the black vote.  NJSecularist   Apr-25-08 04:18 PM   #50 
     - You know this how?  EffieBlack   Apr-25-08 04:30 PM   #66 
     - Because Hillary and the Clintons used to have tons of black support.  NJSecularist   Apr-25-08 04:32 PM   #69 
        - That's a pretty bizarre leap of logic  EffieBlack   Apr-25-08 04:59 PM   #101 
           - I think you made my point.  NJSecularist   Apr-25-08 05:02 PM   #104 
              - If you think I made your point, you're even more confused  EffieBlack   Apr-25-08 05:24 PM   #118 
     - The data doesn't support your conclusions  Hippo_Tron   Apr-25-08 04:35 PM   #73 
        - That isn't the assumption  jackson_dem   Apr-25-08 07:27 PM   #172 
  - Perhaps Obama should don a sheet and wave the 'Fedrut flag to appeal to them.  Tierra_y_Libertad   Apr-25-08 04:07 PM   #24 
  - You're in the wrong party if you use racism  DJ13   Apr-25-08 04:07 PM   #26 
  - Who is using racism?  NJSecularist   Apr-25-08 04:19 PM   #52 
     - You.  chascarrillo   Apr-25-08 04:21 PM   #55 
     - What is your argument other than "because Obama is black, some white  ecdab   Apr-25-08 09:39 PM   #231 
  - my guess - you're from South Jersey, maybe Salem or Cumberland Co  Jersey Devil   Apr-25-08 04:10 PM   #32 
  - I'm in Ocean County and I'm extremely liberal.  NJSecularist   Apr-25-08 04:37 PM   #75 
  - Ocean County - I wasn't that far off  Jersey Devil   Apr-25-08 04:48 PM   #86 
     - I am from a conservative county. I'm liberal.  NJSecularist   Apr-25-08 04:52 PM   #92 
        - When's the last time Ocean County elected a Democrat?  Jersey Devil   Apr-25-08 05:01 PM   # 
           - Gore lost Ocean County by one point. Clinton won it by 6 in 1996. n/t  NJSecularist   Apr-25-08 05:15 PM   #110 
              - That's exactly what I just said  Jersey Devil   Apr-25-08 05:19 PM   #112 
                 - Let's use some common sense. Obama does better than Clinton in Iowa  jackson_dem   Apr-25-08 07:28 PM   #178 
  - The facts show Obama may lose NJ  jackson_dem   Apr-25-08 07:27 PM   #173 
  - Stopped reading here:  wileedog   Apr-25-08 04:10 PM   #34 
  - Hillary is abysmal with blacks and young people and weaker with increasing education  dmordue   Apr-25-08 04:11 PM   #37 
  - Young people and affluents do not make a Democratic coalition.  NJSecularist   Apr-25-08 04:20 PM   #53 
     - College educated, those under 30 and blacks may decide to stay home...  dmordue   Apr-25-08 04:31 PM   #67 
     - oh, now YOU have the gall to speak for what AA voters will  cali   Apr-25-08 07:22 PM   #166 
  - You couldn't be more wrong.  Ashy Larry   Apr-25-08 04:13 PM   #42 
  - Fear of racists=capitulation. Fvck that.  lojasmo   Apr-25-08 04:14 PM   #45 
  - Richardson lost. Is that because of racism or because of his limited appeal?  jackson_dem   Apr-25-08 07:29 PM   #179 
  - This white democrat is gonna pull the lever for Obama.  Vickers   Apr-25-08 04:17 PM   #49 
  - You are one out of millions.  NJSecularist   Apr-25-08 04:21 PM   #54 
     - Obama is having trouble pulling women away from Hillary  dmordue   Apr-25-08 04:28 PM   #63 
     - Amazing how you can outspend...when you have the money.  Vickers   Apr-25-08 04:34 PM   #72 
  - Stats on Independents and Conservatives who "will vote for McCain in the General" please?  Triana   Apr-25-08 04:18 PM   #51 
  - McCain courts independents just as well as Obama.  NJSecularist   Apr-25-08 04:22 PM   #57 
  - Since no Democrat can win without the support of black voters, why don't you worry about HRC's even  EffieBlack   Apr-25-08 04:22 PM   #56 
  - ...  NJSecularist   Apr-25-08 04:24 PM   #58 
  - How many latte liberals are there in Iowa?  sfexpat2000   Apr-25-08 04:38 PM   #77 
     - One state out of 43? Congratulations on cherrypicking.  NJSecularist   Apr-25-08 04:43 PM   #81 
     - Who really is cherry picking here?  sfexpat2000   Apr-25-08 04:47 PM   #85 
     - Ohio and Pennsylvania are not conservative states.  NJSecularist   Apr-25-08 04:49 PM   #88 
        - OH and PA are conservative states with corrupt elections systems  sfexpat2000   Apr-25-08 04:51 PM   #91 
           - Bill won both states in 1992 and 1996.  NJSecularist   Apr-25-08 04:53 PM   #94 
           - Rasmussen has him up over McCain in PA. n/t  sfexpat2000   Apr-25-08 08:14 PM   #224 
           - PA has voted Dem 4 times in a row, has a Dem governor, and one Dem senator  jackson_dem   Apr-25-08 07:33 PM   #187 
           - Did you even BOTHER to see what Ohio did in 2006?  mtnester   Apr-26-08 05:36 AM   #259 
     - lol YOU cherry pick. ND, ME, CO, KS, VT, MN, WA  cali   Apr-25-08 07:25 PM   #170 
        - Minnesota, Maine Colorado and Washington were caucuses.  NJSecularist   Apr-25-08 07:55 PM   #203 
     - How many caucuses are there in the general election?  jackson_dem   Apr-25-08 07:32 PM   #184 
        - Obamites think that 2% turnout in a caucus means that Obama will carry the state.  NJSecularist   Apr-25-08 07:56 PM   #207 
  - The opposite is the case. Obama has tanked with whites since he began being vetted  jackson_dem   Apr-25-08 07:31 PM   #182 
  - Well he did great among Black voters. What's your point?  David__77   Apr-25-08 04:29 PM   #64 
  - Whites consist of 77% of the electorate, blacks consist of 11% of the electorate.  NJSecularist   Apr-25-08 04:31 PM   #68 
     - How about under 30, college educated or black?  dmordue   Apr-25-08 04:33 PM   #70 
     - Obama's coalition consists of about 30% of the electorate. n/t  NJSecularist   Apr-25-08 04:36 PM   #74 
        - No Democratic has won a majority of whites since 1964.  David__77   Apr-25-08 04:41 PM   #78 
           - His strategic view is also based on Hillary getting working class whites that aren't Democrats  Hippo_Tron   Apr-25-08 04:44 PM   #83 
           - How? Latinos will likely split 50-50 with McCain as Obama as the nominee.  NJSecularist   Apr-25-08 04:45 PM   #84 
           - McCain will be easy to politically decimate.  David__77   Apr-25-08 05:18 PM   #111 
           - They can't defend the simple fact his coalition is too small to win the GE  jackson_dem   Apr-25-08 07:35 PM   #189 
              - No, he didn't. He's just a flawed candidate.  NJSecularist   Apr-25-08 07:51 PM   #195 
                 - Look at this  jackson_dem   Apr-25-08 07:58 PM   #209 
                    - I need to donate soon. I should create the same type of poll about Obama if he loses in the GE.  NJSecularist   Apr-25-08 08:03 PM   #215 
                       - He won't lose the GE. He loses the white vote in Dem primaries due to racism  jackson_dem   Apr-25-08 08:09 PM   #220 
           - Of course but you also need at least 43%. Kerry won 41% and he lost the GE by 3  jackson_dem   Apr-25-08 07:34 PM   #188 
     - blacks are 11%, but what percentage of the white vote will decide  ecdab   Apr-25-08 09:46 PM   #233 
     - And that 11% is enough to make or break a Democrat - that's what is scaring some of you to death  EffieBlack   Apr-25-08 10:12 PM   #241 
  - To those that are surprised:  Jim4Wes   Apr-25-08 04:49 PM   #87 
  - Well duh. White folks won't in general vote for a black guy unless there's no other choice...  BlooInBloo   Apr-25-08 04:52 PM   #93 
  - The Florida numbers are staggering, guess we write that one off. nt  Jim4Wes   Apr-25-08 04:53 PM   #95 
  - With Obama, we write off both Ohio and Florida.  NJSecularist   Apr-25-08 04:59 PM   #100 
     - Who needs 'em  Jim4Wes   Apr-25-08 05:00 PM   #102 
        - They're too conservative!!  NJSecularist   Apr-25-08 05:01 PM   #103 
           - thats right, we got a good shot at those  Jim4Wes   Apr-25-08 05:03 PM   #105 
  - All I'll say is this...  TTUBatfan2008   Apr-25-08 05:22 PM   #113 
  - THANK you!  EffieBlack   Apr-25-08 10:14 PM   #243 
  - Hey jackson, how come you never addressed the bigger problem Hillary has with non-white voters?  jefferson_dem   Apr-25-08 05:22 PM   #115 
  - Hillary does not have a problem with Latino voters.  NJSecularist   Apr-25-08 05:29 PM   #120 
     - Bill swiftboated himself by trying to demean Obama's win there...  TTUBatfan2008   Apr-25-08 05:32 PM   #124 
     - I hope Hillary picks up the "I'm a victim of racial swiftboating" meme.  jefferson_dem   Apr-25-08 05:39 PM   #128 
     - So you think black people are so stupid that Obama can fool them into turning on the Clintons?  EffieBlack   Apr-25-08 10:17 PM   #244 
  - Blacks will vote for McCain if Clinton is the nom?  anonymous171   Apr-25-08 05:27 PM   #119 
  - No, they'll stay home.  TTUBatfan2008   Apr-25-08 05:31 PM   #122 
     - you don't know  wrando   Apr-25-08 05:36 PM   #127 
        - WTF?  TTUBatfan2008   Apr-25-08 05:41 PM   #129 
  - I agree completely that we should throw Obama under the bus  cliffordu   Apr-25-08 05:33 PM   #125 
  - is that what he said?  wrando   Apr-25-08 05:46 PM   #131 
     - The Obamites haven't been able to dismiss any of my points.  NJSecularist   Apr-25-08 05:50 PM   #132 
     - it's not logical  wrando   Apr-25-08 05:58 PM   #133 
     - Well......This poster uses this kind of thing as a reason to take  cliffordu   Apr-25-08 06:25 PM   # 
        - motives  wrando   Apr-25-08 06:56 PM   #146 
           - THESE STATS DO NOT REFLECT WHAT WILL HAPPEN AFTER MCCAIN  cliffordu   Apr-25-08 06:59 PM   #148 
              - partially true  wrando   Apr-25-08 07:56 PM   #204 
  - To take you seriously I would have to think you weren't for trying  mmonk   Apr-25-08 05:35 PM   #126 
  - It was all those Black voters in Utah, Wyoming, and Idaho....  bvar22   Apr-25-08 05:42 PM   #130 
  - Wyoming and Idaho were low turnout caucuses.  NJSecularist   Apr-25-08 06:12 PM   #134 
  - Read the OP. Jesse Jackson won Alaska and Vermont. How'd he do nationally with whites?  jackson_dem   Apr-25-08 07:37 PM   #191 
  - Are you a lawyer?  Jersey Devil   Apr-25-08 06:20 PM   #135 
  - No, I am not.  NJSecularist   Apr-25-08 06:25 PM   #138 
     - Well, so do I  Jersey Devil   Apr-25-08 06:32 PM   #142 
  - I sincerely hope that the rest of New Jersey is not as bigoted as you appear to be!  JackORoses   Apr-25-08 06:23 PM   #137 
  - He lives in Ocean County - NJ's Wingnut Central  Jersey Devil   Apr-25-08 06:30 PM   #141 
  - We're not.  Kool Kitty   Apr-26-08 02:25 AM   #255 
  - If anything is abysmal, it's the white racist democrats you mention.  notmypresident   Apr-25-08 06:27 PM   #139 
  - The only thing that is abysmal is your labeling of any white Democrats who vote for Hillary  NJSecularist   Apr-25-08 06:30 PM   #140 
     - A good portion of them have mnade it clear they will not vote for him  notmypresident   Apr-25-08 06:42 PM   #143 
     - If there are racists in the democratic party - then they are not  whutgives   Apr-25-08 07:08 PM   #152 
        - Dream on baby, hell they are even here on DU. Just open your eyes.  notmypresident   Apr-25-08 07:33 PM   #185 
           - Yes, there may be some on DU - but again, they are not democrats.  whutgives   Apr-25-08 07:56 PM   #206 
     - you are the one calling them racist by insinuating that they will only vote for the White Person  JackORoses   Apr-25-08 06:46 PM   #144 
        - DING DING DING! We have a winner! nt  anonymous171   Apr-25-08 07:18 PM   #164 
        - That makes no sense. They wouldn't vote for Dodd or Biden either  jackson_dem   Apr-25-08 07:37 PM   #192 
        - Nobody accepts that Bullshit except desperate Hillarites  JackORoses   Apr-25-08 07:52 PM   #198 
           - What is your answer to why Richardson lost? Racism or limited appeal?  jackson_dem   Apr-25-08 07:59 PM   #211 
              - what is your answer to why Richardson supports Obama?  JackORoses   Apr-25-08 09:54 PM   #235 
              - Lack of money and poor speaking ability doomed Richardson.  ecdab   Apr-25-08 10:11 PM   #240 
                 - And Obama is the perfect candidate who only racists would oppose?  jackson_dem   Apr-25-08 10:51 PM   #246 
                    - Nope, but if they voted for Hillary on the issues they will vote for Obama.  ecdab   Apr-25-08 11:13 PM   #248 
                       - False.  NJSecularist   Apr-25-08 11:15 PM   #249 
                       - LOL - based on what? Your desire for Hillary to win? What?  ecdab   Apr-25-08 11:35 PM   #251 
                          - No, the argument--and it is legit--is that Obama will not win enough of these voters  jackson_dem   Apr-26-08 02:11 AM   #254 
                             - You are using primary numbers to arbitrarily come up with your  ecdab   Apr-26-08 06:12 AM   #265 
                       - 24% of Democrats voted against Mondale  jackson_dem   Apr-26-08 02:08 AM   #253 
        - You guys even eat your own when they  hell-bent   Apr-25-08 08:11 PM   #222 
           - enjoy this board while you can, soon this 'cult' will be all that's left  JackORoses   Apr-25-08 09:57 PM   #236 
              - Listen Jack O--, you and your Obama friends can then stroke  hell-bent   Apr-26-08 04:21 PM   #276 
  - Race bait thread? eom  smiley_glad_hands   Apr-25-08 06:50 PM   #145 
  - whispers and code words are paying off  leaningprog   Apr-25-08 06:56 PM   #147 
  - I am so white...people think I'm a pillow....ok I might be a little  whutgives   Apr-25-08 06:59 PM   #149 
  - Oh man, this post calls for a group hug  beat tk   Apr-25-08 07:14 PM   #157 
  - Thank you - I love group hugs  whutgives   Apr-25-08 08:01 PM   #214 
  - the OP is doing nothing but misrepresenting and cherry picking  cali   Apr-25-08 07:30 PM   #181 
  - Hey Vermont! I agree - this has turned into a horribly racist  whutgives   Apr-25-08 08:00 PM   #213 
  - Add me to the " woman pillow muffin top pushing 40 for Obama" list.  libnnc   Apr-25-08 10:08 PM   #238 
  - LOL......hello sister pillow!  whutgives   Apr-26-08 05:39 AM   #260 
  - RE: I'M WITH YA GIRL  cjsmom44   Apr-26-08 06:00 AM   #263 
     - Welcome cjsmom44/Obama-Mama!  whutgives   Apr-26-08 11:14 AM   #267 
  - Is this is latest Hillary flier to Indiana and supers???  Bensthename   Apr-25-08 07:28 PM   #177 
  - I am sorry  quakerboy   Apr-25-08 07:41 PM   #193 
  - hear hear  knixphan   Apr-25-08 07:54 PM   #202 
  - GOOD LORD, Secularist!  XLIXLI   Apr-25-08 08:00 PM   #212 
  - Excellent analysis, NJ Secularist!  hell-bent   Apr-25-08 08:04 PM   #216 
  - No, it isn't. It's hogwash!  ProSense   Apr-25-08 09:22 PM   #228 
  - Are you calling the good people of PA and OH racist?  anonymous171   Apr-25-08 08:05 PM   #219 
  - It's ok, they'll stuff it in the end and vote for Barack in the GE  nemo137   Apr-25-08 09:44 PM   #232 
  - Another HillFAN who needs poli-sci 101. So here goes:  RBInMaine   Apr-25-08 09:52 PM   #234 
  - Simple math for math challenged.  brindis_desala   Apr-25-08 10:02 PM   #237 
  - Thank you. ITS THE INDEPENDENTS, STUPID!  wileedog   Apr-25-08 10:09 PM   #239 
  - Here is a poll. His indie appeal is declining as he gets more known  jackson_dem   Apr-25-08 10:49 PM   #245 
  - NJSecularist, I liked you, but obviously you went over the deep end.  Drunken Irishman   Apr-25-08 11:11 PM   #247 
  - Second, such a good person went to the dark side. oh well.  angie_love   Apr-25-08 11:18 PM   #250 
  - You are officially on ignore -  FrenchieCat   Apr-25-08 11:35 PM   #252 
  - We have seen this race card argument for Obama a lot since he lost on Tuedsay  jackson_dem   Apr-26-08 02:26 AM   #256 
  - All I know is....  whistler162   Apr-26-08 02:32 AM   #257 
  - It says...  graycem   Apr-26-08 04:03 AM   #258 
  - No it's among white women who are the largest chunk of the dems, he has more votes in the repub vote  barack the house   Apr-26-08 05:43 AM   #261 
  - RE: WHITE WOMEN  cjsmom44   Apr-26-08 06:02 AM   #264 
  - who fucking cares.... I am getting very tired of the race game....  truthpusher   Apr-26-08 11:32 AM   #269 
  - Double standard  hokies4ever   Apr-26-08 11:35 AM   #270 
  - Elected. Pledged. Delegate. Majority.  krkaufman   Apr-26-08 12:50 PM   #272 
  - kick  DemVet   Apr-26-08 07:14 PM   #277 
  - You are pointing out that a Black man can't win and that is disgraceful  bambino   Apr-26-08 07:20 PM   #278 
 

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