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scheming daemons Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-25-08 12:14 PM
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28. I'll answer each of your points individually... if you'll bother to read....
1. This is not over... yet. After June 3rd, it will be.

2. The math is NOT irrelevant. Yes.. they both need Superdelegates... but Obama only needs 30% of the uncommitted ones, and Clinton needs 70%. There are about 300 uncommitted SDs. Do you REALLY think she will get 210 of them? Be honest.

3. We know Hillary supporters don't care about math. It's because you don't understand it. She needs 7 out of every 10 uncommitted superdelegates to go for her. Since Feb 5th, she is +5 in SDs. Obama is +85. But somehow, you see her getting 210 of the remaining 300. She's the "establishment" candidate. If those SDs haven't gone for her already, most aren't going to. Certainly not 210 out of 300.

4. The longer this plays itself out, the more likely that John McCain wins. Obama supporters, being that we can add and subtract, already know the end result - even if you can't bring yourselves to admit it. The only person served by this continuing now is John McCain. And we, cynically - but accurately - based on her past behavior, know that this is EXACTLY what Hillary wants. Her goal is two-fold now... Either A) force Obama to select her as VP or B) kill his chances against McCain and try again in 2012. Deep down, you know that is what she is doing also.

5. Nothing tells millions of people that their "votes don't count" more than having the SDs overturn what the PDs and popular vote decided over 4 months.

6. You might not be a Republican or a Neo-Con.... but the Republicans and Neo-Cons *ARE* supporting your candidate... openly, I might add. And your candidate is echoing Neo-Con talking points more and more every day. Compare the words coming from Hillary in the final weeks of the PA campaign to the words that typically come out of Joe Lieberman's mouth. They are indistinguishable.

7. On this.... you and I agree.

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  -Regarding Hillary vs Obama and their respective supporters... thoughts. Texas Hill Country  Apr-25-08 10:47 AM   #0 
  - Obama needs to ignore Hillary and run against McCain.  damntexdem   Apr-25-08 10:50 AM   #1 
  - I think you're spot on...there's really nothing BO has done in his  joeybee12   Apr-25-08 10:53 AM   #2 
  - So, Wait ... Let Me Get This Straight...  The_Counsel   Apr-25-08 11:58 AM   #20 
  - Deleted message  Name removed   Apr-25-08 10:56 AM   #3 
  - Your sig line stinks.  JoFerret   Apr-25-08 11:33 AM   #14 
  - EPIC FAIL  knight_of_the_star   Apr-25-08 12:12 PM   #26 
  - I don't agree with your views  nomad1776   Apr-25-08 11:07 AM   #4 
  - Will you feel the same way AFTER Obama gets the nomination?  tularetom   Apr-25-08 11:09 AM   #5 
  - LOL, thanks for not faulting me for who I support. And I respect your opinion, we just disagree.  Texas Hill Country   Apr-25-08 04:01 PM   #35 
  - If you don't see some of the dangers  mmonk   Apr-25-08 11:13 AM   #6 
  - #2 is so wrong.  woolldog   Apr-25-08 11:16 AM   #7 
  - You had me until Math is irrelevant. That is the same as saying  tekisui   Apr-25-08 11:20 AM   #8 
  - I disagree with a few of your points.  Qutzupalotl   Apr-25-08 11:24 AM   #9 
  - Hillary and her surrogates repeatedly ripping on Obama supporters isnt dividing us?  bunnies   Apr-25-08 11:28 AM   #10 
  - I really enjoyed this post.  DazedandConfused   Apr-25-08 11:28 AM   #11 
  - lol! Poor, poor Clinton supporters. It's hard to lose...  BlooInBloo   Apr-25-08 11:30 AM   #12 
  - has Obama won yet? What is that magic number he needs?  rodeodance   Apr-25-08 11:34 AM   #15 
  - I don't know why the candidates don't pledge to see this to the end of the primary schedule  book_worm   Apr-25-08 11:32 AM   #13 
  - rec  rodeodance   Apr-25-08 11:34 AM   #16 
  - GOBAMA!!!!  haymakeragain   Apr-25-08 11:39 AM   #17 
  - Go Clinon!  emilyg   Apr-25-08 01:10 PM   #31 
  - You are spot on there. I have  asjr   Apr-25-08 11:43 AM   #18 
  - Well, Here Are MY Thoughts....  The_Counsel   Apr-25-08 11:48 AM   #19 
  - Deleted message  Name removed   Apr-25-08 12:00 PM   #23 
  - Well done....  cricket08   Apr-25-08 11:58 AM   #21 
  - K&R  cricket08   Apr-25-08 11:59 AM   #22 
  - "The math is irrelevant."  Shakespeare   Apr-25-08 12:08 PM   #24 
  - When I look at the Gallup and Rasmussen polls  gateley   Apr-25-08 12:11 PM   #25 
  - gateley, thanks. You were a class act when you supported Sen. Biden and you continue to be  BleedingHeartPatriot   Apr-25-08 12:56 PM   #30 
  - Aw, thanks, BHP --  gateley   Apr-25-08 01:30 PM   #32 
  - thank you for the respectful and thoughtful response. it is appreciated.  Texas Hill Country   Apr-25-08 03:53 PM   #33 
  - I love contested elections  cbayer   Apr-25-08 12:12 PM   #27 
  - I'll answer each of your points individually... if you'll bother to read....  scheming daemons   Apr-25-08 12:14 PM   #28 
  - Post is Epic Win  knight_of_the_star   Apr-25-08 12:17 PM   #29 
  - Captain Common Sense LOL - that is hilarious!  Texas Hill Country   Apr-25-08 03:54 PM   #34 
  - Wonderful post Texas Hill Country!  seasonedblue   Apr-29-08 12:47 AM   #36 

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