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Texas Hill Country Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-25-08 10:47 AM
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Regarding Hillary vs Obama and their respective supporters... thoughts.
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1. Obama can't straight up knock Hillary out of the race. I know this must be frustrating for Obama supporters. I know you want your candidate to win, but basically half the party feels very strongly about Hillary. He is not going to have an out right victory. Not happening. This will continue on and she has every right to continue on, just as a few million people should have the right to vote on which they prefer. This is not over. Please get used to that.


2. The math is irrelevant. Neither one can make it to the nomination without the Super Delegates. The following primaries are not to see who can get the most pledged delegates, but to provide the basis for an argument to the Super Delegates... arguments that BOTH of the candidates is going to have to make.


3. Hillary supporters DON'T CARE about your math. It is not going to convince anyone. Calls that this is over, that she can't win, or that our Super Delegate mommy's and daddy's need to step in and stop the democracy do not help. What it does do is serve to further entrench the divisions between us as individuals and make it that much harder to come together when we do have a definite nominee.


4. If you are really that confident in your math, why shove it in everyones face all the time? Let the race play itself out and prove your math right. Constantly going over and over the math does 2 things. First, once again, it only entrenches division and makes people mad. Second, it makes it look like the Obama supporters are nervous about loosing the nomination and starting to panic. Neither one is a good thing. Relax. Have a Mai Thai, sit in the sun, and chill.


5. There is little in the discussion that makes people more angry and resentful than telling them that their votes don't count or that their cause is now irrelevant when it is not. Don't do that. Advocating for your candidate, saying why you think yours is great, saying why you think the other isn't the best one vs the Republican is fine. But don't tell someone that their voice is irrelevant.


6. The only thing that makes me more angry than telling me the race is over when it is not, is calling me or my candidate something we are not. I am not a Republican. I am not a Neo Con. I am a Democrat. I may be more moderate, I may not agree with you on every issue, but please do not tell me or anyone else that my candidate and I are not Democrats. The Democratic Party has a big umbrulla with a lot of different kinds of people underneath it. If we are going to win, we need to learn to work together.


7. It is not Hillary or Obama that is dividing us. Nothing THEY are doing is dividing us. It is what WE do that divides. I am not saying that we have to be all hunky-dory and best friends. We can have disagreements, but we have to stop with the division or we will loose.


Anyway, those are my thoughts. Thanks for listening. Flame away. Repeat your math. Tell me I am not a Democrat. And continue to divide the party.

Have a good day.
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  -Regarding Hillary vs Obama and their respective supporters... thoughts. Texas Hill Country  Apr-25-08 10:47 AM   #0 
  - Obama needs to ignore Hillary and run against McCain.  damntexdem   Apr-25-08 10:50 AM   #1 
  - I think you're spot on...there's really nothing BO has done in his  joeybee12   Apr-25-08 10:53 AM   #2 
  - So, Wait ... Let Me Get This Straight...  The_Counsel   Apr-25-08 11:58 AM   #20 
  - Deleted message  Name removed   Apr-25-08 10:56 AM   #3 
  - Your sig line stinks.  JoFerret   Apr-25-08 11:33 AM   #14 
  - EPIC FAIL  knight_of_the_star   Apr-25-08 12:12 PM   #26 
  - I don't agree with your views  nomad1776   Apr-25-08 11:07 AM   #4 
  - Will you feel the same way AFTER Obama gets the nomination?  tularetom   Apr-25-08 11:09 AM   #5 
  - LOL, thanks for not faulting me for who I support. And I respect your opinion, we just disagree.  Texas Hill Country   Apr-25-08 04:01 PM   #35 
  - If you don't see some of the dangers  mmonk   Apr-25-08 11:13 AM   #6 
  - #2 is so wrong.  woolldog   Apr-25-08 11:16 AM   #7 
  - You had me until Math is irrelevant. That is the same as saying  tekisui   Apr-25-08 11:20 AM   #8 
  - I disagree with a few of your points.  Qutzupalotl   Apr-25-08 11:24 AM   #9 
  - Hillary and her surrogates repeatedly ripping on Obama supporters isnt dividing us?  bunnies   Apr-25-08 11:28 AM   #10 
  - I really enjoyed this post.  DazedandConfused   Apr-25-08 11:28 AM   #11 
  - lol! Poor, poor Clinton supporters. It's hard to lose...  BlooInBloo   Apr-25-08 11:30 AM   #12 
  - has Obama won yet? What is that magic number he needs?  rodeodance   Apr-25-08 11:34 AM   #15 
  - I don't know why the candidates don't pledge to see this to the end of the primary schedule  book_worm   Apr-25-08 11:32 AM   #13 
  - rec  rodeodance   Apr-25-08 11:34 AM   #16 
  - GOBAMA!!!!  haymakeragain   Apr-25-08 11:39 AM   #17 
  - Go Clinon!  emilyg   Apr-25-08 01:10 PM   #31 
  - You are spot on there. I have  asjr   Apr-25-08 11:43 AM   #18 
  - Well, Here Are MY Thoughts....  The_Counsel   Apr-25-08 11:48 AM   #19 
  - Deleted message  Name removed   Apr-25-08 12:00 PM   #23 
  - Well done....  cricket08   Apr-25-08 11:58 AM   #21 
  - K&R  cricket08   Apr-25-08 11:59 AM   #22 
  - "The math is irrelevant."  Shakespeare   Apr-25-08 12:08 PM   #24 
  - When I look at the Gallup and Rasmussen polls  gateley   Apr-25-08 12:11 PM   #25 
  - gateley, thanks. You were a class act when you supported Sen. Biden and you continue to be  BleedingHeartPatriot   Apr-25-08 12:56 PM   #30 
  - Aw, thanks, BHP --  gateley   Apr-25-08 01:30 PM   #32 
  - thank you for the respectful and thoughtful response. it is appreciated.  Texas Hill Country   Apr-25-08 03:53 PM   #33 
  - I love contested elections  cbayer   Apr-25-08 12:12 PM   #27 
  - I'll answer each of your points individually... if you'll bother to read....  scheming daemons   Apr-25-08 12:14 PM   #28 
  - Post is Epic Win  knight_of_the_star   Apr-25-08 12:17 PM   #29 
  - Captain Common Sense LOL - that is hilarious!  Texas Hill Country   Apr-25-08 03:54 PM   #34 
  - Wonderful post Texas Hill Country!  seasonedblue   Apr-29-08 12:47 AM   #36 
 

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