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Fri Apr-25-08 12:57 AM
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| 20. The old ploy - accuse the opponent of your own misdeeds. |
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Edited on Fri Apr-25-08 01:16 AM by bhikkhu
The old Rovian ploy, one might say. This has come back again and again in different forms. Obama refuses PAC money, so those who literally bathe each in night foamy oceans of scented PAC money accuse him of accepting PAC money. Please....
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| -Obama accepted oil money, said he didn't (S.F. Chronicle) |
candice |
Apr-25-08 12:16 AM |
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CBS NEWS: "Clinton Defends Taking Money From Oil Execs: “They’re Americans” Too" |
Bonobo |
Apr-25-08 12:20 AM |
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Is she running ads claiming not to take money from oil companies like Bama did? |
candice |
Apr-25-08 01:10 AM |
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You're pointing at a kid with a popgun while Hillary is climbing clocktowers to thin out the crowd |
melody |
Apr-25-08 02:32 AM |
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We know about Hillary--while Obama tries to hide his taking of oil money!! |
rodeodance |
Apr-25-08 07:47 AM |
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Point is that they are people just like u and me donating as individuals |
GetTheRightVote |
Apr-25-08 12:26 AM |
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And we all own oil companies! |
candice |
Apr-25-08 12:46 AM |
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We all abundantly support them! |
bhikkhu |
Apr-25-08 12:53 AM |
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Corporations haven't been allowed to donate for 100 years |
jackson_dem |
Apr-25-08 12:50 AM |
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What a spin. Good job! |
bamalib |
Apr-25-08 01:51 AM |
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Specious Posit. Shame. |
cliffordu |
Apr-25-08 12:31 AM |
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Crap ... old articles and old history that's been vetted. |
thunder rising |
Apr-25-08 12:34 AM |
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Today's paper and Obama's early April ad claims...he said it himself... |
candice |
Apr-25-08 12:45 AM |
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Nothing to see here. Move along folks. |
bamalib |
Apr-25-08 01:53 AM |
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Employees of corporations to a maximum of $2300 individual donation each. |
AtomicKitten |
Apr-25-08 12:35 AM |
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1) It isn't the janitors aren't giving him 2k a pop 2) no one gets corporate money directly |
jackson_dem |
Apr-25-08 12:51 AM |
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that's a dumb thing to say, I'm sure they have better paid employees |
Lord Helmet |
Apr-25-08 01:06 AM |
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Yeah, the executives... |
jackson_dem |
Apr-25-08 01:50 AM |
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This article is blatantly misleading |
nebula |
Apr-25-08 12:36 AM |
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The Chron endorsed Obama...you don't find anything devious |
candice |
Apr-25-08 12:42 AM |
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Is this an opinion piece or an actual article? |
nebula |
Apr-25-08 12:47 AM |
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NYTIMES endorsed McCain, What's your point?!! WTF, Like WTF |
DerekJ |
Apr-25-08 12:48 AM |
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You Canucks crack me up. |
DemVet |
Apr-25-08 07:58 AM |
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Continued attempts to blur line between individuals and lobbyists. |
TLM |
Apr-25-08 12:41 AM |
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Guys who work on oil rigs don't dole out $2,300 |
jackson_dem |
Apr-25-08 12:52 AM |
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whoa!!! do you know how much a rough neck pulls in on an off shore rig!??!! wanna restate this one? |
uponit7771 |
Apr-25-08 12:55 AM |
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So these are "rough necks" donating? LOL |
bamalib |
Apr-25-08 01:56 AM |
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The old ploy - accuse the opponent of your own misdeeds. |
bhikkhu |
Apr-25-08 12:57 AM |
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and the bad thing is he can still pull in 25 million monthly without big donors!! This guys a ... |
uponit7771 |
Apr-25-08 01:00 AM |
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It's politics like when Obama claims Clinton uses the rethug playbook (which he has done) |
jackson_dem |
Apr-25-08 01:04 AM |
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like? thx in advance |
uponit7771 |
Apr-25-08 01:11 AM |
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That smug in S.F. must be getting to the author |
bobbert |
Apr-25-08 12:43 AM |
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Old crap - he has accepted money from individuals who work in the oil industry. |
bhikkhu |
Apr-25-08 12:49 AM |
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Who cares where he gets his money, it's his lying ads! |
candice |
Apr-25-08 01:11 AM |
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FACT NOT IN DISPUTE: Obama doesn't take money from registerd lobbyist or PACs Hillary does |
uponit7771 |
Apr-25-08 01:13 AM |
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Actually, he does accept money from PACs and Lobbyists. |
DemVet |
Apr-25-08 07:59 AM |
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You are wrong. Industries can't donate like you are implying. |
bamalib |
Apr-25-08 01:58 AM |
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Yep.. whats next.. A Burger king employee give to the campaign. meaning Burger KING endorses Obama |
mystieus |
Apr-25-08 02:06 AM |
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These might be relevant |
Asgaya Dihi |
Apr-25-08 12:59 AM |
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Is Clinton running an ad claiming not to take lobbyist money or oil money? |
candice |
Apr-25-08 01:08 AM |
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Hardly the same game, and yes he is different. |
bhikkhu |
Apr-25-08 01:20 AM |
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The real mystery |
Growler |
Apr-25-08 01:22 AM |
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It's an indisputable fact that Obama takes money from PACs, and Lobbyists |
DerekJ |
Apr-25-08 02:01 AM |
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I continue to wonder what is up with that $250. |
Warren Stupidity |
Apr-25-08 07:25 AM |
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Oh, what happened to the "Transparency Platform"??? |
UALRBSofL |
Apr-25-08 07:55 AM |
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