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Thu Apr-24-08 04:43 PM
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| 18. Did the GE in 2000 include caucuses? |
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Edited on Thu Apr-24-08 04:44 PM by GarbagemanLB
No? Then how the fuck can there be any accurate counting of the 'popular vote'?
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| -How do you think Al Gore would think about pledged delegates vs popular vote in his SD decision? |
jsamuel |
Apr-24-08 04:30 PM |
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The same way that he felt about electoral college votes vs. popular votes |
Mooney |
Apr-24-08 04:32 PM |
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right, but SDs are the rules too |
jsamuel |
Apr-24-08 04:33 PM |
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Does grasping at straws have any special meaning for you? |
Liberal Gramma |
Apr-24-08 04:36 PM |
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but the popular vote may be a more relevant measure of the voters' choice than the PDs |
jsamuel |
Apr-24-08 04:38 PM |
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He wouldn't, because he knows how to read a rule book. |
Mooney |
Apr-24-08 04:39 PM |
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the rule book does not state that the SDs have to vote with the PDs or with the popular vote or with |
jsamuel |
Apr-24-08 04:40 PM |
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The rule book states that the primary is a delegate race |
Mooney |
Apr-24-08 04:43 PM |
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and SDs are delegates who can make their choice however they want |
jsamuel |
Apr-24-08 04:46 PM |
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Doesn't matter what he thinks |
Liberal Gramma |
Apr-24-08 04:44 PM |
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Read this, popular vote is not relevant |
Obama_for_our_future |
Apr-24-08 04:48 PM |
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Quite, but the time to debate this was 2005-7. |
anigbrowl |
Apr-24-08 05:10 PM |
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true, but the current rules state that the SDs could vote against both the PDs and pop vote |
jsamuel |
Apr-24-08 05:16 PM |
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So, in the current Democratic race... who do think is ahead in |
lapfog_1 |
Apr-24-08 05:40 PM |
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based on my opinion, Obama leads both |
jsamuel |
Apr-24-08 05:56 PM |
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But that's not the premise of this thread. |
Mooney |
Apr-24-08 04:38 PM |
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That's exactly right! The Dems didn't stretch and break the rules in 2000, the Goopers did. nt |
ORDem |
Apr-24-08 04:38 PM |
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HRC = GWB |
Mooney |
Apr-24-08 04:44 PM |
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OMG!! THIS IS HUGH!!! |
Cronus Protagonist |
Apr-24-08 04:52 PM |
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You raise a lot of very interesting points. |
Mooney |
Apr-24-08 11:24 PM |
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That's the absolute truth right there. |
chascarrillo |
Apr-24-08 04:45 PM |
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I dont think that would even be a consideration as he doesnt like the Clintons |
DJ13 |
Apr-24-08 04:33 PM |
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maybe, but he has purposely kept his opinion on the race from the public for the good of the party |
jsamuel |
Apr-24-08 04:34 PM |
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you don't know that that's his reasoning |
cali |
Apr-24-08 04:40 PM |
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you are right, I don't know his reasoning |
jsamuel |
Apr-24-08 04:41 PM |
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I don't think that the issue is popular vs. pledged. |
tekisui |
Apr-24-08 04:33 PM |
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Did he complain about delegates vs. popular votes in the Primary? |
NYCGirl |
Apr-24-08 04:33 PM |
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Does the popular vote include all caucus states including the four where totals are unavailable? |
BeyondGeography |
Apr-24-08 04:35 PM |
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Is Al Gore president? Nope. Because the president is elected by Electoral College. |
beachmom |
Apr-24-08 04:43 PM |
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Did the GE in 2000 include caucuses? |
GarbagemanLB |
Apr-24-08 04:43 PM |
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It wont' matter Obama will lead in both popular vote and pledged delegates. |
book_worm |
Apr-24-08 04:44 PM |
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if he leads in both at the end, you are right |
jsamuel |
Apr-24-08 04:45 PM |
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since Al understands rules, he knows that primaries/caucuses are about delegates |
SoCalDem |
Apr-24-08 04:44 PM |
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disenfranchise the caucus vote? |
dcindian |
Apr-24-08 04:48 PM |
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those who voted in caucuses can be included like how rcp has done |
jsamuel |
Apr-24-08 04:49 PM |
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don't like the out come just guess? |
dcindian |
Apr-24-08 04:51 PM |
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well, if it were really important, the national party may be able to get them to release their |
jsamuel |
Apr-24-08 04:53 PM |
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It is very important that is why they get pledged delegates. |
dcindian |
Apr-24-08 04:56 PM |
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huh? I am trying to add their votes in. |
jsamuel |
Apr-24-08 05:00 PM |
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votes already counted delegates given. |
dcindian |
Apr-24-08 05:05 PM |
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I am trying to see what the national popular vote is including their votes. |
jsamuel |
Apr-24-08 05:06 PM |
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General Election vs. Primary --> Apples and Oranges |
dave29 |
Apr-24-08 05:00 PM |
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Note huge difference - there were NO CAUCUSES in that election |
karynnj |
Apr-24-08 05:47 PM |
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Pledged delegates are proportional. Electoral votes are not. |
hnmnf |
Apr-24-08 11:25 PM |
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Pledged delegates are supposed to be reflective of the popular |
mmonk |
Apr-24-08 11:26 PM |
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pledged delegates are specifically NOT supposed to be reflections of the pop vote |
jsamuel |
Apr-24-08 11:29 PM |
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I don't know, but... |
PseudoIntellect |
Apr-24-08 11:27 PM |
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That's why he would be for Obama of course. |
anonymous171 |
Apr-24-08 11:30 PM |
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Well, Obama leads by both so I'm sure he would side with Obama. BTW, Al |
my3boyz |
Apr-25-08 12:01 AM |
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Pledged delegates |
FlaGranny |
Apr-25-08 12:36 AM |
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