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Sat Apr-26-08 11:51 AM
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| 130. Only because most Dems didn't KNOW the level of their deceits then. NOW we know. |
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Sorry that Gore and Kerry and even Dean had to go through the last 8 years of sabotage and undermining by TeamClinton but now enough know the truth that we can band together and STOP them.
The Bushes RUINED every bit of the Republican party with their agenda. WE have to stop the Clintons doing the same with the Democratic party.
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| -After watching TeamClinton operate OPENLY the last 6 months, have any of you changed your |
blm |
Apr-24-08 03:48 PM |
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Tag so I can read at home. |
Political Heretic |
Apr-24-08 03:49 PM |
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Sadly, I firmly believe your last sentence. n/t |
cui bono |
Apr-24-08 03:50 PM |
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You always document which |
Ichingcarpenter |
Apr-24-08 03:50 PM |
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Now it's up to others to keep the truth alive. Truth IS our only hope. |
blm |
Apr-28-08 12:31 PM |
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Impeach Clinton! |
chknltl |
Apr-24-08 03:52 PM |
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Yes the rose colored glasses are off. |
Egnever |
Apr-24-08 03:54 PM |
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WORD!! |
uponit7771 |
Apr-24-08 04:15 PM |
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Trust me...I know how you feel. Once your eyes are open the 90s look entirely different, too. |
blm |
Apr-24-08 07:01 PM |
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They certainly do |
Egnever |
Apr-24-08 07:35 PM |
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Ive watched them during and since their Arkansas days. Believe me there's nothing there. |
polpilot |
Apr-25-08 01:40 PM |
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I've watched them during and since their Arkansas days. Believe me there's nothing there. |
polpilot |
Apr-25-08 01:40 PM |
#66 |
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same here. |
ray of light |
Apr-25-08 01:49 PM |
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The course of events has made this glaringly apparent. |
AtomicKitten |
Apr-24-08 03:55 PM |
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One day soon you will have to post your journey and maybe open more eyes along the way |
blm |
Apr-24-08 07:10 PM |
#30 |
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I'm sorry to say it's the same with me. |
Enthusiast |
Apr-25-08 03:27 PM |
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I'm totally in agreement with you. |
speedoo |
Apr-24-08 04:05 PM |
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Thanks for the reminder - I'll add Vanity Fair article about the undermining of Gore |
blm |
Apr-24-08 04:08 PM |
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Great... I need to read that. |
speedoo |
Apr-24-08 04:12 PM |
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I know exactly when it was...for me anyway |
SoFlaJet |
Apr-24-08 05:28 PM |
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That was terrible, huh! |
ClayZ |
Apr-25-08 12:32 AM |
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That was the lightning bolt for me, too. I knew in an instant who Hillary Clinton really was. |
Diane R |
Apr-25-08 02:11 PM |
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Yeah - that's when I started calling her Tonya Harding. |
blm |
Apr-25-08 07:24 PM |
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that was the moment that opened my eyes, too. |
ginnyinWI |
Apr-26-08 01:25 PM |
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follow the money nt |
mopinko |
Apr-24-08 11:36 PM |
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Same Dubai royals protected by deep-sixed BCCI matters are lining Clintons' bank accounts now. |
blm |
Apr-25-08 01:26 PM |
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Could that be where her 10 million on Tuesday night came from? |
Diane R |
Apr-25-08 02:12 PM |
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Don't know - but definitely can count part of 5 million lent to campaign last month. |
blm |
Apr-25-08 03:56 PM |
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Hell no we won't go to Hillary... |
WHAT |
Apr-25-08 01:29 PM |
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You know, when I think about it, |
FlaGranny |
Apr-26-08 08:52 AM |
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Yes, Gore became a populist in 2000. DLCers blamed his "loss" of fighting for the people: |
mod mom |
Apr-26-08 10:04 AM |
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I've gone for having a lot of respect for the Clintons |
XemaSab |
Apr-24-08 04:05 PM |
#8 |
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DLC versus the rest of the party... |
dchill |
Apr-25-08 10:01 AM |
#51 |
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For me its Anti-corruption, Open Government Dems v Closed Government wing of the party. |
blm |
Apr-25-08 11:37 AM |
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And I will add that the DLC |
Jawja |
Apr-26-08 12:20 PM |
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Would be surprised but not shocked if they did |
uponit7771 |
Apr-24-08 04:13 PM |
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Hillary Clinton has bothered me since I first became aware... |
dchill |
Apr-24-08 04:15 PM |
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Interesting that Marion Wright Edelman (Children's Defense Fund) has not endorsed HRC |
Divernan |
Apr-24-08 04:22 PM |
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HRC stopped displaying ANY interest in "children's welfare" when she stood by Bill and clapped |
Ken Burch |
Apr-25-08 03:11 PM |
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The reaction to The Joke is what did it for me, but I can imagine a few more |
beachmom |
Apr-24-08 04:28 PM |
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That was a complete display of disloyalty to party and humanity on her part. |
blm |
Apr-24-08 06:37 PM |
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disloyat to party, disloyal to friends, coworkers, |
ray of light |
Apr-24-08 07:30 PM |
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That clip of Hillary should get it's own thread. Viewers will now see who she's always been. |
Diane R |
Apr-25-08 02:16 PM |
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You read my mind!!! |
ray of light |
Apr-24-08 04:29 PM |
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This stuff is hard to get past... the truth is needed for our party to learn, adjust and move on. |
blm |
Apr-24-08 05:15 PM |
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My eyes are wide open now, and I finally see the *real* Clintons. |
No Surrender |
Apr-24-08 04:33 PM |
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Agreed. She's sabotaging the party in 08 to run in 2012. |
TexasObserver |
Apr-24-08 04:36 PM |
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yep, any respect I had for her has gone out the window. |
book_worm |
Apr-24-08 04:54 PM |
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K&R, and keeping on file. |
bhikkhu |
Apr-24-08 04:55 PM |
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sort of seems like she's scortching the earth right now. |
ray of light |
Apr-24-08 06:05 PM |
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They'll be co-presenters. |
blm |
Apr-24-08 06:16 PM |
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undermined them? They changed votes? Doubt it. |
bigtree |
Apr-24-08 04:57 PM |
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and one day you'll explain why you believe Brinkley was lying...right? |
blm |
Apr-24-08 05:26 PM |
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....crickets...... |
swampg8r |
Apr-26-08 10:30 AM |
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heh...good catch... |
blm |
Apr-26-08 12:15 PM |
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I agree with the sentence about Hillary2012. I was a big supporter at one time for |
AlinPA |
Apr-24-08 06:23 PM |
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I have no doubt they have been planning all of it but then Obama |
GetTheRightVote |
Apr-24-08 07:38 PM |
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thank you JK for taking a chance in 04, when Hillary knew shehad to play it safe |
ray of light |
Apr-24-08 08:19 PM |
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We owe John Kerry a lot. And the Clinton succeeded in denying him the presidency, too. |
Diane R |
Apr-25-08 02:19 PM |
#79 |
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Only because most Dems didn't KNOW the level of their deceits then. NOW we know. |
blm |
Apr-26-08 11:51 AM |
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They denied him the Presidency AND they made us SUFFER |
ray of light |
Apr-26-08 07:17 PM |
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what you said |
MBS |
Apr-26-08 08:58 AM |
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yes indeed nt |
goclark |
Apr-26-08 04:58 PM |
#147 |
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I posted exactly this sentiment in 2003 on this site |
Samantha |
Apr-24-08 08:51 PM |
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Yes - I included the Vanity Fair article because Gore was their FIRST TARGET. |
blm |
Apr-25-08 01:50 PM |
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That was an excellent article - this Country has paid HEAVILY |
Samantha |
Apr-25-08 09:37 PM |
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It was Gore's latest book that proved to me why Clintons DIDN'T TRUST HIM with their legacies |
blm |
Apr-26-08 10:31 AM |
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Excellent point |
Samantha |
Apr-26-08 04:50 PM |
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Who are they going to trust, honorable men like Gore and Kerry or deceivers like themselves? |
blm |
Apr-26-08 05:14 PM |
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well, i am proud of du. |
mopinko |
Apr-24-08 11:42 PM |
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I hear you - it's been frustrating and most often the targets have been other victims of |
blm |
Apr-25-08 12:04 PM |
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I completely changed my opinion of both of them |
Hamlette |
Apr-24-08 11:42 PM |
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There's a reason Kerry endorsed Obama and not Hillary. |
FlyingSquirrel |
Apr-24-08 11:58 PM |
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I think it's the same reason she's getting so few new endorsements from Senators. |
Diane R |
Apr-25-08 02:22 PM |
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True - almost every new Senator endorsement since February has been for Obama. |
blm |
Apr-25-08 02:29 PM |
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K&R. eom |
smiley_glad_hands |
Apr-25-08 12:26 AM |
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The hardest part |
FatDave |
Apr-25-08 01:19 AM |
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He wasn't right about it - I doubt he saw how Clintons protected BushInc in the 90s, and |
blm |
Apr-25-08 09:14 AM |
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Great thread, blm. That Parry article has got to be one of the most-linked at DU. |
seafan |
Apr-25-08 12:22 PM |
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There are many who see themselves in your post, seafan. |
blm |
Apr-25-08 12:42 PM |
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The truth will set us free. Thanks for all you do, blm. |
seafan |
Apr-25-08 02:22 PM |
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Parry is a hero to this nation. He and the Dem lawmakers who exposed BushInc |
blm |
Apr-25-08 02:00 PM |
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Both dynasties run on oil and are directed by the same, small circles of global elites |
leveymg |
Apr-25-08 02:33 AM |
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Your post is brilliant |
BelgianMadCow |
Apr-26-08 05:34 PM |
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his posts are ALWAYS brilliant - if you haven't yet done so, read his journal. |
blm |
Apr-27-08 04:34 PM |
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Damning stuff, most likely true |
48percenter |
Apr-25-08 02:41 AM |
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Point being that this race forced them to do their dirty work in the OPEN. |
blm |
Apr-25-08 09:34 AM |
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And the media allowed it to happen. |
ray of light |
Apr-25-08 04:30 PM |
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right - they couldn't cover as well with so many of us watching and listening to every word. |
blm |
Apr-25-08 05:19 PM |
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I used to love them now I can't stomach them |
Raine |
Apr-25-08 02:41 AM |
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I've changed my mind about one thing... She's actually worse than I thought she was nt |
wowimthere |
Apr-25-08 09:36 AM |
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I was pretty much neutral until she started talking about ... |
Sentinel Chicken |
Apr-25-08 09:49 AM |
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About as hard as she fought for Iraq withdrawal - she wasn't for it till Lieberman lost HIS primary |
blm |
Apr-25-08 10:40 AM |
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K&R |
dchill |
Apr-25-08 09:59 AM |
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I loved Bill - could take or leave Hillary. |
Laurab |
Apr-25-08 10:48 AM |
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You've been speaking this truth here for a LONG time... I'm glad people are finally waking up |
WildEyedLiberal |
Apr-25-08 10:56 AM |
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Anyone who sees the truth before others do gets labeled quickly as 'delusional' or 'unhinged' |
blm |
Apr-25-08 11:03 AM |
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Apology accepted |
politicasista |
Apr-25-08 02:15 PM |
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Don't worry...we still love you anyways :) |
1trackmindGOP |
Apr-25-08 04:01 PM |
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That last sentence really says it all. |
OnceUponTimeOnTheNet |
Apr-25-08 11:36 AM |
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Used to love 'em both. |
Mystery2Me |
Apr-25-08 12:04 PM |
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I wholeheartedly agree with your last sentence. According to the Clintons the Democratic party OWES |
truebrit71 |
Apr-25-08 01:29 PM |
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Yep. When Dean became chair of DNC that drew the same target on him that TeamClinton had |
blm |
Apr-25-08 01:41 PM |
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A bangin' K&R |
politicasista |
Apr-25-08 01:36 PM |
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Despicable. The Clintons are despicable. nt |
Oregonian |
Apr-25-08 01:51 PM |
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Kerry would have challenged Ohio if the Clinton's hadn't kneecapped him. |
Diane R |
Apr-25-08 02:07 PM |
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K&R for the truth! n/t |
rox63 |
Apr-25-08 02:11 PM |
#74 |
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K & R |
invictus |
Apr-25-08 02:13 PM |
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The BOTH of them make me PHYSICALLY ILL... |
Barrymores Ghost |
Apr-25-08 02:25 PM |
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Your story is similar to many here. We fought so HARD for THEM. And then what? |
blm |
Apr-25-08 03:04 PM |
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Oh, and one MORE thing...K&R. Excellent post. N/T |
Barrymores Ghost |
Apr-25-08 02:26 PM |
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i always used to defend hillary from repukes, and although |
goletian |
Apr-25-08 02:38 PM |
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and I keep saiding... |
But.... |
Apr-25-08 02:32 PM |
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Don't fool yourself |
limit18 |
Apr-25-08 02:34 PM |
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I mean 'openly' as in directing their attacks on an emerging Dem leader 'openly' |
blm |
Apr-25-08 02:53 PM |
#92 |
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K & R |
Scurrilous |
Apr-25-08 02:38 PM |
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i was very pleased to be able to choose between hillary, edwards and obama, but things change. |
goletian |
Apr-25-08 02:40 PM |
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The entire DLC/Clinton Operation is meant to be Democratic Party sabotage |
MessiahRp |
Apr-25-08 02:41 PM |
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That's the thing about being Democrats - we can't STOMACH that level of lying and if we could |
blm |
Apr-25-08 02:56 PM |
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K&R. (nt) |
Kurovski |
Apr-25-08 02:50 PM |
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Why the hate? |
RememberWellstone |
Apr-25-08 03:13 PM |
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If she was only "just trying to run her race" |
Enthusiast |
Apr-25-08 03:40 PM |
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Try reading the post next time and ask WHY Clintons hate open government Democrats. |
blm |
Apr-25-08 03:40 PM |
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Hillary has run her campaign the opposite of the Wellstone way. |
ray of light |
Apr-25-08 04:29 PM |
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Yes - Wellstone would have been all over the tube speaking for Kerry in 2004. Did Hillary? |
blm |
Apr-25-08 05:11 PM |
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"Just trying to run the race" would mean NOT bashing and not going negative. |
Ken Burch |
Apr-29-08 04:44 AM |
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put down the kool-aide. nt |
VotesForWomen |
Apr-25-08 03:24 PM |
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If YOU put down the kool-aid and picked UP the National Security Archives you could |
blm |
Apr-25-08 03:44 PM |
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The last line says it all. |
JeanGrey |
Apr-25-08 03:35 PM |
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Was Carville working for the Kerry campaign at the time he got info on election night ... |
TheBorealAvenger |
Apr-25-08 03:54 PM |
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No. Carville likely got the info from McAuliffe who was head of the DNC and would've |
blm |
Apr-25-08 04:00 PM |
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Ok. I had to sleep on this one and now I am with you |
TheBorealAvenger |
Apr-26-08 07:49 AM |
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Kerry didn't let Carville in. I think Gore likely warned JK which Clintonites to look out for |
blm |
Apr-26-08 11:27 AM |
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And Carville calls Richardson a "Judas"? |
ginnyinWI |
Apr-26-08 01:38 PM |
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Worse than a rat - he's proved to be a mole acting to protect BushInc. |
blm |
Apr-26-08 01:58 PM |
#141 |
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there was a point in the last |
elmerdem |
Apr-25-08 03:55 PM |
#104 |
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My view hasn't changed - the lid put on investigations of HWB |
BelgianMadCow |
Apr-25-08 05:37 PM |
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That's my issue - it effected the view and accuracy of our nation's historic record |
blm |
Apr-25-08 06:12 PM |
#113 |
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Indeed, and in keeping the lid on the can |
BelgianMadCow |
Apr-26-08 05:13 PM |
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And study of journals by Octafish, leveymg, robertpaulsen, bobthedrummer, |
blm |
Apr-28-08 09:49 AM |
#164 |
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K&R... |
KoKo01 |
Apr-25-08 07:58 PM |
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I've come to that conclusion |
Raine |
Apr-25-08 08:13 PM |
#116 |
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I doubt there is ANY Dem happy about having to face the truth. I know I wasn't. |
blm |
Apr-25-08 09:27 PM |
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Watching the Clintons |
FlaGranny |
Apr-26-08 09:18 AM |
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Yes - I'd really like to hear a 'DEBATE' about her influence on policy in the 90s. |
blm |
Apr-26-08 09:52 AM |
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Thanks for a great post |
Pavlovs DiOgie |
Apr-26-08 09:39 AM |
#123 |
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How the heck did I miss this-EXCELLENT POST including the comments! |
mod mom |
Apr-26-08 09:59 AM |
#125 |
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Small story to share |
CaptJasHook |
Apr-26-08 12:37 PM |
#133 |
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Limbaugh and his ilk weren't being truthful either. They were the rinfleaders of the dog and pony |
blm |
Apr-26-08 12:42 PM |
#134 |
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good points! |
ray of light |
Apr-26-08 03:43 PM |
#142 |
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thankyou - 90s do look different don't they? |
blm |
Apr-26-08 04:16 PM |
#144 |
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Things always look different in hindsight. |
MonteLukast |
Apr-27-08 10:08 AM |
#157 |
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Excellent analogy - artificial sweetener....which can be fatal in excess, too. |
blm |
Apr-27-08 06:26 PM |
#161 |
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I agree, I know that and yet... |
CaptJasHook |
Apr-26-08 08:54 PM |
#156 |
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A good way to know it's NOT an issue of sanity is by reading this thread. |
blm |
Apr-27-08 06:29 PM |
#162 |
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You know, I've never been a big fan of the Clintons |
tammywammy |
Apr-26-08 12:54 PM |
#135 |
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Hillary throwing John Kerry.. |
stillcool47 |
Apr-26-08 12:57 PM |
#136 |
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I hang my head in shame as one who wouldn't contemplate that the Clintons would do such a thing. |
indie_ana_500 |
Apr-26-08 12:58 PM |
#137 |
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I would but that would imply it's ONLY been 4 yrs. They targeted Gore first. |
blm |
Apr-26-08 01:47 PM |
#140 |
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On the bright side--look how far we've come. |
ginnyinWI |
Apr-26-08 03:55 PM |
#143 |
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Someone please help me understand. |
DesertedRose |
Apr-26-08 04:40 PM |
#145 |
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Your question deserves its own thread. I don't think you'll get the answers you |
blm |
Apr-26-08 05:16 PM |
#151 |
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Yes me, my bf, my sister, my whole family has believed this for a few months now. |
angie_love |
Apr-26-08 04:59 PM |
#148 |
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Sooner for me - I lost all sympathy for Clintons after reading Bill's book. |
blm |
Apr-26-08 06:23 PM |
#153 |
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Didn't he say in his book... |
MonteLukast |
Apr-27-08 10:10 AM |
#158 |
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kick |
ClayZ |
Apr-26-08 07:33 PM |
#155 |
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sad to say i am repulsed by their conduct. |
npincus |
Apr-27-08 05:11 PM |
#160 |
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Look above your post at this thread - there are many who feel as you do. |
blm |
Apr-27-08 08:05 PM |
#163 |
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