jefferson_dem
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Wed Apr-23-08 10:44 PM
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| 32. I didn't see that thread before I posted mine but I stand with Kristi1696. |
| -How can anyone say Hillary is more electable when she only earns 10% of the African-American vote? |
jefferson_dem |
Apr-23-08 10:07 PM |
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You're being generous she only got 8% |
ej510 |
Apr-23-08 10:08 PM |
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Maybe a bit generous. Early exits reported 8%. |
jefferson_dem |
Apr-23-08 10:10 PM |
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The 10% who say they voted for her... |
woolldog |
Apr-23-08 11:14 PM |
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That's because CNN ALWAYS "adjusts" their exit polls... |
dchill |
Apr-24-08 11:28 AM |
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She can't win the youth vote either. |
anonymous171 |
Apr-23-08 10:08 PM |
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The way she and her campaign / supporters have dismissed young voters is reprehensible. |
jefferson_dem |
Apr-23-08 10:13 PM |
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That really gets me angry as well. |
anonymous171 |
Apr-23-08 10:15 PM |
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Young voters undervalue "experience"... |
dchill |
Apr-24-08 11:33 AM |
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nor the party activist vote. They no longer matter. |
ZinZen |
Apr-23-08 11:12 PM |
#54 |
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And if she is perceived to have stolen the nomination from a black candidate, |
Liberal Gramma |
Apr-23-08 10:12 PM |
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Clearly..... |
FrenchieCat |
Apr-23-08 10:13 PM |
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"Clearly..." |
dchill |
Apr-24-08 11:38 AM |
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You're insane. |
Starbucks Anarchist |
Apr-23-08 10:14 PM |
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You have a point |
MadMaddie |
Apr-23-08 10:14 PM |
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a very experienced political insider type told me.. |
jbm |
Apr-23-08 10:15 PM |
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That party insider deserves to be a cast outsider. |
jefferson_dem |
Apr-23-08 10:22 PM |
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And that kind of thinking just got us eight years of Bush. n/t |
sfexpat2000 |
Apr-23-08 10:24 PM |
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The Clintons assumed that was their vote, They're bitter |
Tribetime |
Apr-23-08 10:15 PM |
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The presidency was Hillary's reparations |
SoCalDem |
Apr-23-08 11:20 PM |
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This is the elephant in the room no one will talk about. |
Tatiana |
Apr-23-08 10:16 PM |
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I'm seeing a lot of this from my friends also.... |
Kaylee |
Apr-24-08 11:30 AM |
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Shhh. Mant of the people you're talking to are mathematically challenged |
Catherina |
Apr-23-08 10:17 PM |
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Are many african americans voting for Obama because he is black? |
Evergreen Emerald |
Apr-23-08 10:18 PM |
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It was only a matter of time before a Hillary supporter went there. |
jefferson_dem |
Apr-23-08 10:23 PM |
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Go where? |
Evergreen Emerald |
Apr-23-08 10:26 PM |
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FerraroLand. |
jefferson_dem |
Apr-23-08 10:29 PM |
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come on. how dare you. We cannot have a legitimate conversation without you |
Evergreen Emerald |
Apr-23-08 10:32 PM |
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Are you calling Ferraro a racist? |
jefferson_dem |
Apr-23-08 10:40 PM |
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What does this mean? |
Evergreen Emerald |
Apr-23-08 10:42 PM |
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I didn't see that thread before I posted mine but I stand with Kristi1696. |
jefferson_dem |
Apr-23-08 10:44 PM |
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what does it mean? It sounds like race may be involved in this vote somehow |
Evergreen Emerald |
Apr-23-08 10:48 PM |
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Are many european americans voting for Clinton because she is white? |
Ashy Larry |
Apr-23-08 10:25 PM |
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I don't know. I do wonder what accounts for the significant number of |
Evergreen Emerald |
Apr-23-08 10:30 PM |
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Most black people are anti-war. |
Ashy Larry |
Apr-23-08 10:36 PM |
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So is Clinton. She has been a strong fighter for civil rights her career |
Evergreen Emerald |
Apr-23-08 10:38 PM |
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No, she isn't. She voted for the Iraq war for example. Maybe you didn't hear about that one. |
Ashy Larry |
Apr-23-08 10:45 PM |
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So did Obama, again and again. So, that can't be it. |
Evergreen Emerald |
Apr-23-08 10:53 PM |
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So, what you're trying to say is that you are only supporting Hillary because she is a white woman. |
Ashy Larry |
Apr-23-08 10:58 PM |
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That is not what I am saying at all. But, I admit that her gender is a part of why |
Evergreen Emerald |
Apr-23-08 11:00 PM |
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So you're no different than someone that's vote for Obama because he's black..partly anyway,.lol |
ScarletSniper |
Apr-24-08 11:08 AM |
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She's Just Not Black |
otohara |
Apr-24-08 12:11 PM |
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You are once again wrong |
Raineyb |
Apr-23-08 11:08 PM |
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well said. |
CitizenLeft |
Apr-24-08 11:05 AM |
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Nope. B lame Bill and Billy Sheehan, for their tactics..sorry |
ScarletSniper |
Apr-24-08 11:07 AM |
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Didnt Bush even do better then 8% of that vote in 2004? |
Thepricebreaker |
Apr-23-08 10:31 PM |
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She had the vast majority of that vote until very recently. |
onehandle |
Apr-23-08 10:32 PM |
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Bill in South Carolina. |
mystieus |
Apr-23-08 10:43 PM |
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Name removed |
Apr-23-08 11:24 PM |
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She had nearly twice the support even late last year over Obama. |
onehandle |
Apr-24-08 12:04 AM |
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You hit on the main reason why the supers will support the candidate with more pledged delegates. |
totodeinhere |
Apr-23-08 10:38 PM |
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Might set back the Democratic party a generation? |
NJSecularist |
Apr-23-08 10:49 PM |
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Now that's just stupid. |
jefferson_dem |
Apr-23-08 10:55 PM |
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The irony of her kitchen sink strategy is that she has rendered herself unelectable. |
AtomicKitten |
Apr-23-08 10:39 PM |
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What percentage of the total US population are African-Americans? Got any idea? nt |
suston96 |
Apr-23-08 10:49 PM |
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13-14(ish)% |
jefferson_dem |
Apr-23-08 10:54 PM |
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What about the Hispanic vote? |
True_Blue |
Apr-23-08 11:33 PM |
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Latinos are 15%, blacks 12% of the population (4.4% is Asian, 1% Native Am., 2% multiracial) |
jackson_dem |
Apr-24-08 12:02 PM |
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Latinos don't vote in the same numbers as Blacks and the Latino vote is split with Repubs. |
kwenu |
Apr-24-08 12:08 PM |
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With Obama it will be split. In 2006 Latinos voted 70-29 for Democrats |
jackson_dem |
Apr-24-08 12:26 PM |
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Why do you keep going back to the they won't vote for a Black man chatter. |
kwenu |
Apr-24-08 07:59 PM |
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huh |
TPILOL |
Apr-23-08 10:55 PM |
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Make this argument to Hillary and her supporters |
jefferson_dem |
Apr-23-08 10:58 PM |
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Kinda funny george bush was elected twice with 10% or less of |
BenDavid |
Apr-23-08 10:57 PM |
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Yes, but that's not Bush's base. |
Cali_Democrat |
Apr-23-08 11:02 PM |
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This is one of the main reasons why the supers won't overturn the pledged delegate leader |
Cali_Democrat |
Apr-23-08 10:59 PM |
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Where are all these new young voters that Obama has brought into the fold? |
NJSecularist |
Apr-23-08 11:00 PM |
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PA is the oldest state in the union after Florida, so obviously it's skewed towards older voters |
Cali_Democrat |
Apr-23-08 11:03 PM |
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Is that what the excuse is going to be in the general election? |
NJSecularist |
Apr-23-08 11:05 PM |
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Did I say anything about "writing off PA?" |
Cali_Democrat |
Apr-23-08 11:09 PM |
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Well, what's the excuse going to be when only 12% of the electorate are young voters in the GE? |
NJSecularist |
Apr-23-08 11:11 PM |
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Again your saying Dems are just gonna write off PA and Flordia |
Cali_Democrat |
Apr-23-08 11:14 PM |
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Why can't Obama's magical ability to court young voters working in the primaries? |
NJSecularist |
Apr-23-08 11:18 PM |
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Remarkably the only talking head on TV that made this same point was |
grantcart |
Apr-23-08 11:05 PM |
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How is Obama electable when he earns only |
OzarkDem |
Apr-23-08 11:25 PM |
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I guess they're both screwed, aren't they... |
malik flavors |
Apr-23-08 11:40 PM |
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All those latte liberals and party activists along with the netroots will propel him to victory! |
NJSecularist |
Apr-24-08 12:06 AM |
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Primaries and General Elections are different |
expada |
Apr-24-08 12:06 AM |
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kick for discussion. nt |
onehandle |
Apr-24-08 08:40 AM |
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she won't lose the black vote in a general |
terrell9584 |
Apr-24-08 09:51 AM |
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If You Think Her Pulling In Only 1 Of 10 Has ANYTHING To Do With Her, You're Certifiably Insane. |
OPERATIONMINDCRIME |
Apr-24-08 11:24 AM |
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I thought this was the primary still |
hill_win_2008 |
Apr-24-08 11:37 AM |
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She won't be running a black person in the GE |
jackson_dem |
Apr-24-08 12:00 PM |
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As I posted earlier: The notion was that blacks are loyal to the Clintons. That's why they decided |
ProSense |
Apr-24-08 12:03 PM |
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They haven't come to reality to realize that black votes count if a Dem is to win. |
kwenu |
Apr-24-08 12:03 PM |
#79 |
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