jackson_dem
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Wed Apr-23-08 03:28 PM
Response to Reply #16 |
| 67. It isn't helpful for the party to get into a pissing match over "most oppressed" group |
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Both groups have been discriminated against, as have others like Asians, Latinos, Jews, Muslims, GLBT, etc. It does neither the party or progressives any good to get into pissing matches about who has been most oppressed.
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| -Do the superdelegates believe that black folks are just permanently in the bag? |
DefenseLawyer |
Apr-23-08 12:56 PM |
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It's hard to believe that anyone can be unaware of how much Clinton damaged |
sfexpat2000 |
Apr-23-08 12:57 PM |
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Don't worry. It will never happen |
Pawel K |
Apr-23-08 12:59 PM |
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i agree. if he loses to |
sweets |
Apr-23-08 01:15 PM |
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That's fine by her, as long as she can run again in 2012. |
Pawel K |
Apr-23-08 01:21 PM |
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do you think she would put |
sweets |
Apr-23-08 01:30 PM |
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I just don't see any other rational reason for hey staying in |
Pawel K |
Apr-23-08 01:46 PM |
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do you think WE want to go through this again? |
greguganus |
Apr-23-08 02:01 PM |
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Let's put it like this: |
ellisonz |
Apr-23-08 03:04 PM |
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Some 29% of the "new voters" said in exit polling they would never vote for Clinton. |
AtomicKitten |
Apr-23-08 01:00 PM |
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Do you remember that poll, taken very early in this process, |
sfexpat2000 |
Apr-23-08 01:02 PM |
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Zogby refers to it as her "ceiling of support." |
AtomicKitten |
Apr-23-08 01:09 PM |
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Thanks. And, that was before there were "Obama voters" . . . . |
sfexpat2000 |
Apr-23-08 01:14 PM |
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The Young Republicans National Fededration is whereit is comming from. |
Tippy |
Apr-23-08 02:01 PM |
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I believe this poll came out 'way before Obama was even noticed. n/t |
sfexpat2000 |
Apr-23-08 03:12 PM |
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Do the superdelegates believe that women are just permanently |
juajen |
Apr-23-08 01:01 PM |
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Obama isn't stealing the election |
sandnsea |
Apr-23-08 01:06 PM |
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If the situation were reversed, what you are saying might make sense. |
DefenseLawyer |
Apr-23-08 01:08 PM |
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Women and Blacks Cannot be Compared |
Blomst |
Apr-23-08 01:25 PM |
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Exactly; white women are the sisters, daughters, mothers of the perpetrators |
panAmerican |
Apr-23-08 01:51 PM |
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It isn't helpful for the party to get into a pissing match over "most oppressed" group |
jackson_dem |
Apr-23-08 03:28 PM |
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Were women in the bag for Dems in the last GE's? |
redqueen |
Apr-23-08 01:52 PM |
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I'm just a caveman |
DefenseLawyer |
Apr-23-08 02:31 PM |
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I think women voted for Bush in larger numbers... |
redqueen |
Apr-23-08 02:32 PM |
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Kinda. |
DefenseLawyer |
Apr-23-08 02:48 PM |
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True... |
redqueen |
Apr-23-08 03:00 PM |
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when BO folk have nothing else , they always stoop to race. |
Mags |
Apr-23-08 01:59 PM |
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What exactly do you mean by "stoop to race"? |
jonestonesusa |
Apr-23-08 02:20 PM |
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you just proved my point. thanks |
Mags |
Apr-23-08 02:39 PM |
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And your point was....? |
jonestonesusa |
Apr-23-08 02:47 PM |
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why must you repeat that nasty lie? |
dionysus |
Apr-23-08 02:52 PM |
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Or the youth vote? |
anonymous171 |
Apr-23-08 01:03 PM |
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that is what confuses me |
Epiphany4z |
Apr-23-08 01:07 PM |
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Imho, that is exactly what the talking heads know and what they're not saying |
sfexpat2000 |
Apr-23-08 01:40 PM |
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As they sit on the sidelines, letting the Clintons weaken Obama , McCain's courting black voters. |
Skwmom |
Apr-23-08 01:04 PM |
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Yep. |
FrenchieCat |
Apr-23-08 01:10 PM |
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I would hope . . . |
TeeYiYi |
Apr-23-08 03:18 PM |
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Since some of the super delegates are 'black folks' I doubt it |
Debi |
Apr-23-08 01:39 PM |
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Yes. I've even heard a couple of republicans say |
mmonk |
Apr-23-08 01:41 PM |
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I agree my family in Texas, they are all socially conservative. |
ej510 |
Apr-23-08 01:48 PM |
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I think a lot of people will just stay home, and I can't say that I would |
sfexpat2000 |
Apr-23-08 01:52 PM |
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then youguys/gals aren't as smart as you sit here thinking you are.... |
NavyDavy |
Apr-23-08 01:57 PM |
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I'd respond to you but since you already know my thoughts |
sfexpat2000 |
Apr-23-08 01:59 PM |
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Don't play a selective race card |
Tom Rinaldo |
Apr-23-08 01:48 PM |
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Not at all. The Latino vote would just be a corollary. |
sfexpat2000 |
Apr-23-08 01:49 PM |
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Were they "in the bag" in the last GE's? |
redqueen |
Apr-23-08 01:53 PM |
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This is called playing the race card? Have you spoken to any black voters? |
Skwmom |
Apr-23-08 02:34 PM |
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It's complex and you know it |
Tom Rinaldo |
Apr-23-08 02:43 PM |
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Exactly WHAT does your post have to do with the topic under discussion? |
Skwmom |
Apr-23-08 03:04 PM |
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Discussions are not paint by number exercises |
Tom Rinaldo |
Apr-23-08 03:20 PM |
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What does "playing the race card" mean? |
DefenseLawyer |
Apr-23-08 05:35 PM |
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it needs to stop more than anything has ever needed to stop |
crankychatter |
Apr-23-08 01:50 PM |
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Every day she stays in the race is one less day Obama can confront McLame on the real issues. |
greguganus |
Apr-23-08 02:00 PM |
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Only Hillary believes that. Didn't you know that her husband was the first black president? |
Stop Cornyn |
Apr-23-08 01:52 PM |
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where do you guys come up with this crap.....Rush Limpballs, Scammity |
NavyDavy |
Apr-23-08 01:52 PM |
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You are talking about policy, I think. I am talking about politics |
DefenseLawyer |
Apr-23-08 02:25 PM |
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The answer is in plain sight. Look at the revolving door |
brindis_desala |
Apr-23-08 02:00 PM |
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Which is exactly why... |
Weevlitz |
Apr-23-08 02:07 PM |
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blacks, workers, liberals... either stand behind the DLC or stand alone |
mdmc |
Apr-23-08 02:35 PM |
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What harm will it do to 40 million AA's if one man is not elevated to the presidency? |
jackson_dem |
Apr-23-08 02:35 PM |
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It's about process not result |
DefenseLawyer |
Apr-23-08 02:54 PM |
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I agree with all of that but I don't believe in being held to the pledeged delegate scheme either |
jackson_dem |
Apr-23-08 03:22 PM |
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This is a complex question, jacksondem, but I would start |
jonestonesusa |
Apr-23-08 03:02 PM |
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Thanks for the thoughtful reply |
jackson_dem |
Apr-23-08 03:24 PM |
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Turnout. |
Buzz Clik |
Apr-23-08 02:53 PM |
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You are speaking for me... |
butterfly77 |
Apr-23-08 02:56 PM |
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I think |
cricket08 |
Apr-23-08 02:58 PM |
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Yes. They assume that blacks, the poor, progressives, liberals, labor, etc.... |
tokenlib |
Apr-23-08 03:02 PM |
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I am already an Indepent due to this mess that has been allowed |
GetTheRightVote |
Apr-23-08 03:24 PM |
#66 |
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