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Wed Apr-23-08 12:28 AM
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| 16. Grantcart ? why do we have to wait until Oregon |
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can't this happen May 6th?
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| -Obama closes in on the 'Pelosi Trigger' Magic Number now only 143 |
grantcart |
Apr-23-08 12:09 AM |
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Oh god I hope this is the case... |
mcctatas |
Apr-23-08 12:10 AM |
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super delegates may not be super but they certainly aren't stupid |
grantcart |
Apr-23-08 12:55 AM |
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Not very super in my book |
DeeDeeNY |
Apr-23-08 09:31 AM |
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rather narcissitic group aren't they. |
grantcart |
Apr-23-08 12:00 PM |
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Oh it is. About May 20th (OR/KY primaries) Obama should hit that magic PD number. |
ORDem |
Apr-23-08 02:13 PM |
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and here is the thing we need to keep in mind the SDs are not stupid |
grantcart |
Apr-23-08 02:18 PM |
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Please let this happen |
goclark |
Apr-23-08 06:35 PM |
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well remember these guys are good real good |
grantcart |
Apr-23-08 09:53 PM |
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Kicked for Genius, and brevity!!!! |
cliffordu |
Apr-23-08 12:11 AM |
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Thanks Clifford |
grantcart |
Apr-23-08 12:18 AM |
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Yer most welcome!! |
cliffordu |
Apr-23-08 12:21 AM |
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That's why Pelosi needs to shut her fucking mouth |
Paint It Black |
Apr-23-08 12:11 AM |
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huh? |
grantcart |
Apr-23-08 12:15 AM |
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You mean the ones who are hacked they can't buy the candidate this time? |
ClassWarrior |
Apr-23-08 12:18 AM |
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that would be them |
grantcart |
Apr-23-08 05:58 PM |
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Deleted sub-thread |
Name removed |
Apr-23-08 12:15 AM |
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KnR Thanks for keepin it real again grantcart! nt |
chknltl |
Apr-23-08 12:19 AM |
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tks chknltl |
grantcart |
Apr-23-08 12:23 AM |
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But Dean has committed to resolve Florida and Michigan soon. |
speedoo |
Apr-23-08 12:19 AM |
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that will be resolved after we have a presumptive nominee |
grantcart |
Apr-23-08 12:21 AM |
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Dean has made it clear, consistently, that both campaigns must agree to the resolution. |
Zhade |
Apr-23-08 12:45 AM |
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So she could stonewall and continue to drag this out? |
speedoo |
Apr-23-08 01:26 AM |
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She has the advantage over those who follow rules....she follows her own. |
madfloridian |
Apr-23-08 12:26 PM |
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Thanks, madfloridian. |
speedoo |
Apr-23-08 12:49 PM |
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There is only one rule find the only rationale that would justify her and use that |
grantcart |
Apr-23-08 03:57 PM |
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and he has appointed a strong 25 member of independent minded folks to the |
grantcart |
Apr-23-08 12:26 PM |
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True, but Hillary and her cronies will just see that as another obstacle. |
speedoo |
Apr-23-08 12:51 PM |
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Not so they count toward the nominee. |
madfloridian |
Apr-23-08 11:48 AM |
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Thanks. |
speedoo |
Apr-23-08 12:06 PM |
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thanks for stopping by |
grantcart |
Apr-23-08 12:16 PM |
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Good post. |
madfloridian |
Apr-23-08 12:27 PM |
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Thanks grantcart |
ampad |
Apr-23-08 12:20 AM |
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tks |
grantcart |
Apr-23-08 12:43 AM |
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Oregon is right. If he can make it there, he can make it anywhere! |
phrigndumass |
Apr-23-08 12:23 AM |
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It would be nice if Oregon put him over |
davidpdx |
Apr-23-08 12:28 AM |
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great |
grantcart |
Apr-23-08 03:15 PM |
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and I think if Oregon realizes the honor it has it will really go wild |
grantcart |
Apr-23-08 04:11 PM |
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Grantcart ? why do we have to wait until Oregon |
bigbrother05 |
Apr-23-08 12:28 AM |
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Won't happen May 6, not even if Obama wins NC 65/35 and IN 55/45. |
Spider Jerusalem |
Apr-23-08 12:33 AM |
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never mind |
grantcart |
Apr-23-08 12:36 AM |
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No its not possible |
grantcart |
Apr-23-08 12:34 AM |
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Obama needs to stay Upbeat. Let Hillary wallow in the mud. nt |
votesomemore |
Apr-23-08 12:30 AM |
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Exactly what the NYT editorial said - did you see it? |
grantcart |
Apr-23-08 12:38 AM |
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No. Where? |
votesomemore |
Apr-23-08 12:47 AM |
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It will be everywhere tomorrow |
grantcart |
Apr-23-08 12:52 AM |
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I guess you've seen this? |
votesomemore |
Apr-23-08 01:56 AM |
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he can be magnanimous |
SoFlaJet |
Apr-23-08 09:00 AM |
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He is so good. Come on Indiana - come on NC |
grantcart |
Apr-23-08 11:52 AM |
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Perhaps Oregon will be the "Key State", then? |
bhikkhu |
Apr-23-08 12:33 AM |
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Or Kentucky earlier in the day. |
grantcart |
Apr-23-08 12:34 AM |
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My own take on things... |
bhikkhu |
Apr-23-08 12:47 AM |
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I had the same thought - her speech was surprisingly reconciling and |
grantcart |
Apr-23-08 12:50 AM |
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And asking for money! |
bhikkhu |
Apr-23-08 01:01 AM |
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wonder if she is going to spend that money or pay of her debt including her loan |
grantcart |
Apr-23-08 11:43 AM |
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I was out of town and missed the Pelosi Club |
bigbrother05 |
Apr-23-08 01:05 AM |
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In two weeks they will be halved again |
grantcart |
Apr-23-08 12:07 PM |
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TERRIFIC... |
Raine |
Apr-23-08 01:31 AM |
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Please, make her GO AWAY!! |
48percenter |
Apr-23-08 01:37 AM |
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You can switch channels like I do, would make you feel better. |
akbacchus_BC |
Apr-23-08 01:45 AM |
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I live overseas |
48percenter |
Apr-23-08 02:17 AM |
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Hey, am in Canada, I can change channels too. Thanks for your |
akbacchus_BC |
Apr-23-08 02:28 AM |
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I don't know, had Hillary on mute as usual |
48percenter |
Apr-23-08 02:32 AM |
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You know, this race to the White House is unbelievable. Never thought Barack Obama would throw his |
akbacchus_BC |
Apr-23-08 05:37 AM |
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Clinton not run?? lol |
grantcart |
Apr-23-08 03:09 PM |
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I always mute her...always without fail. |
ScarletSniper |
Apr-23-08 08:19 AM |
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Apples and oranges. Obama's speech was directed at McCain and was statesmen like. Hillary's speech |
IsItJustMe |
Apr-23-08 08:12 AM |
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yeah and no thermonuclear war too |
grantcart |
Apr-23-08 06:52 PM |
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I really like how positive you are. When I saw the votes coming in.. |
akbacchus_BC |
Apr-23-08 02:05 AM |
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They were supposed to do that after OH too, but they didn't. |
TheDonkey |
Apr-23-08 02:37 AM |
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Thank you for the response. Obama is my next President n/t |
akbacchus_BC |
Apr-23-08 06:06 AM |
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You have to keep in mind that it is in the media's interest to hype this and keep it going. It's |
IsItJustMe |
Apr-23-08 08:15 AM |
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thanks |
grantcart |
Apr-23-08 11:31 AM |
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Yes they are going to wait |
MattBaggins |
Apr-23-08 02:53 PM |
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actually 75 of them are add on SDs that haven't been chosen yet |
grantcart |
Apr-23-08 04:36 PM |
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thanks |
grantcart |
Apr-23-08 03:06 PM |
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So, with NC coming up in two weeks from yesterday.... |
HawkeyeX |
Apr-23-08 02:36 AM |
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well here is the deal if you take the most favorable for Hillary or the most favorable for Obama |
grantcart |
Apr-23-08 10:47 AM |
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K & R |
TragedyandHope |
Apr-23-08 02:47 AM |
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Thanks its not the uplifting math or the hopeful math its just the math |
grantcart |
Apr-23-08 09:14 AM |
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More math |
dbmk |
Apr-23-08 05:51 AM |
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Nice analysis and graph |
karynnj |
Apr-23-08 07:11 AM |
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they will understand it when the super delegates endorse |
grantcart |
Apr-23-08 09:53 AM |
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but, the Clinton supporter will say, they are so close |
grantcart |
Apr-23-08 12:58 PM |
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K&R GoBama!!! |
SunsetDreams |
Apr-23-08 07:20 AM |
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thanks |
grantcart |
Apr-23-08 11:08 AM |
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Morning update: I think the Pelosi number is 136 now? |
phrigndumass |
Apr-23-08 07:47 AM |
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my calcs consist of clicking on demconwatch lol |
grantcart |
Apr-23-08 09:17 AM |
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now 137 |
grantcart |
Apr-23-08 10:59 AM |
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137 is gravy! |
phrigndumass |
Apr-23-08 11:46 AM |
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parsley |
grantcart |
Apr-23-08 03:25 PM |
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I was looking forward to your first post-PA thread |
psychopomp |
Apr-23-08 08:49 AM |
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thanks for the beer |
grantcart |
Apr-23-08 11:15 AM |
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Significant number of SD's my ass. |
DemVet |
Apr-23-08 08:54 AM |
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Since when does Nancy Pelosi get to write the DNC rules? |
merbex |
Apr-23-08 09:19 AM |
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She isn't writing any rules. She has described the conditions that she needs to |
grantcart |
Apr-23-08 09:33 AM |
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Writing about her "solution" as if if were de facto gospel rules is what 's wrong |
merbex |
Apr-23-08 09:51 AM |
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And all of the new information is going Obama's way |
grantcart |
Apr-23-08 10:43 AM |
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Please note that the above OP was issued on an estimate of delegates from PA |
grantcart |
Apr-23-08 10:51 AM |
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Obama, we've got your back here in Oregon. |
Qutzupalotl |
Apr-23-08 11:28 AM |
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How does it look outside of Portland? |
grantcart |
Apr-23-08 11:36 AM |
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Eugene will go Obama. |
Qutzupalotl |
Apr-23-08 12:16 PM |
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Is it an open primary? Can republicans come in and cause havoc? |
grantcart |
Apr-23-08 12:54 PM |
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It's closed. |
Qutzupalotl |
Apr-23-08 01:02 PM |
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thanks |
grantcart |
Apr-23-08 01:31 PM |
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K & R |
Scurrilous |
Apr-23-08 12:41 PM |
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tks |
grantcart |
Apr-23-08 05:19 PM |
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Thank you for laying it out so clearly for everyone....however... |
truebrit71 |
Apr-23-08 01:00 PM |
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Hopefully she raises enough money in the next few weeks and leaves on top |
grantcart |
Apr-23-08 01:14 PM |
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Thanks for reminding us of this. Its amazing how much noise the MSM is making to extend this farce. |
futureliveshere |
Apr-23-08 01:01 PM |
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thanks for stopping by |
grantcart |
Apr-23-08 01:27 PM |
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My pleasure. It's well worth my time. |
futureliveshere |
Apr-23-08 01:52 PM |
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.. |
grantcart |
Apr-23-08 11:49 PM |
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K and R |
ClayZ |
Apr-23-08 01:01 PM |
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thanks |
grantcart |
Apr-23-08 01:40 PM |
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we'll make more noise very shortly. |
knixphan |
Apr-23-08 01:03 PM |
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wonder what ever happened on that one minute campaign |
grantcart |
Apr-23-08 01:52 PM |
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Another reason why this will end in June, Keep up the good post sir |
uponit7771 |
Apr-23-08 01:42 PM |
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thank you |
grantcart |
Apr-23-08 02:03 PM |
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Scenarios... |
Aya Reiko |
Apr-23-08 01:42 PM |
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what totals are you using for the various states? |
grantcart |
Apr-23-08 02:08 PM |
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I was using Slate's delegate calculator |
Aya Reiko |
Apr-23-08 07:20 PM |
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KY or Oregon - of course there could be some additional pledged delegates |
grantcart |
Apr-23-08 11:01 PM |
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By my calculations Hillary would have to get 64% delegates.. |
mckeown1128 |
Apr-23-08 02:10 PM |
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Todd on MSNBC said yesterday that it would be about 69% |
grantcart |
Apr-23-08 02:37 PM |
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Here is a new SD for Obama, grantcart |
WesDem |
Apr-23-08 04:45 PM |
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lol just caught you at the other thread lol |
grantcart |
Apr-23-08 04:53 PM |
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.. |
grantcart |
Apr-23-08 06:34 PM |
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