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Tue Apr-22-08 03:29 PM
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| 38. There is no cult -- there are only supporters many of whom see he IS our nominee |
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We're not holding our breath like brats trying to get our way. Edwards was my candidate. He's not a factor anymore. Obama *is* the nominee. The only way for us to win in November is to get behind him and work hard NOW.
Clinton (and her putative "supporters") are standing in the way of that. What's more important? That you get your way or that Democrats win in November?
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| -Richard Wolffe on AAR Saying |
tishaLA |
Apr-22-08 03:12 PM |
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Well the underlying math of the entire race remains the same |
high density |
Apr-22-08 03:13 PM |
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Stephanie Miller this morning said one of the precincts didn't have "Obama" on the ticket. n/t |
PoliticalAmazon |
Apr-22-08 04:51 PM |
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He is going to get crushed tonight I know it. It has everything to do with the |
oviedodem |
Apr-22-08 03:13 PM |
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reducing expectations |
olkaz |
Apr-22-08 03:14 PM |
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They fought a good fight. They should be proud of their effort. |
sfexpat2000 |
Apr-22-08 03:14 PM |
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Everyone wants it to be over? By that you mean everyone wants Hillary to drop out? |
LisaM |
Apr-22-08 03:54 PM |
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That same tenacity that caused her to fumble health care? |
Nedsdag |
Apr-22-08 03:59 PM |
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Duplicate post deleted. |
PoliticalAmazon |
Apr-22-08 04:50 PM |
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After her nuke Iran comment, it is dangerous for her to continue.... |
PoliticalAmazon |
Apr-22-08 04:50 PM |
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Hillary Clinton will never be President. n/t |
sfexpat2000 |
Apr-22-08 09:30 PM |
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They outspent Hillary by what, three or four to one? |
dbaker41 |
Apr-22-08 04:33 PM |
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3 to 1... |
joeybee12 |
Apr-22-08 04:49 PM |
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But that's what that money was for, right? |
sfexpat2000 |
Apr-22-08 09:32 PM |
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on Joy Behar? |
Mezzo |
Apr-22-08 03:15 PM |
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Here you go... |
tishaLA |
Apr-22-08 03:25 PM |
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I think it's Pat's |
soleft |
Apr-22-08 03:27 PM |
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I always went to the one further East on Passyunk |
tishaLA |
Apr-22-08 03:31 PM |
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If Hillary is able to top Obama in Popular Vote and the magic |
styersc |
Apr-22-08 03:15 PM |
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Except that a lot of caucuses that Obama did well in |
high density |
Apr-22-08 03:18 PM |
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So you will support the Super Delegates voiding the will of |
styersc |
Apr-22-08 03:23 PM |
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you have to be joking |
Blondbostonian |
Apr-22-08 03:26 PM |
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Smugness and elitism. |
styersc |
Apr-22-08 03:38 PM |
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"Smugness and elitism?" |
Nedsdag |
Apr-22-08 04:25 PM |
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Apparently you are too stupid to realize that the popular vote is a bullshit metric in a system |
GarbagemanLB |
Apr-22-08 03:26 PM |
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Caucuses themselves are BS. 1.9% turnout? The GE will have about 55% |
jackson_dem |
Apr-22-08 04:24 PM |
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..'riots in Denver'? |
azmouse |
Apr-22-08 03:27 PM |
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Repeating threats from the other side. |
styersc |
Apr-22-08 03:37 PM |
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An article/study said Obama would gain if those caucus numbers counted as popular. |
MarjorieG |
Apr-22-08 03:31 PM |
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Totally wrong as far as Washington state, where we held both |
LisaM |
Apr-22-08 05:01 PM |
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Wrong. Almost all of them did and we have estimates for those that didn't |
jackson_dem |
Apr-22-08 04:23 PM |
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He is up by almost 800K votes |
DerekJ |
Apr-22-08 03:18 PM |
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Popular vote is the only way I could see the nomination going |
styersc |
Apr-22-08 03:24 PM |
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500k. Florida morally has to count |
jackson_dem |
Apr-22-08 04:25 PM |
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And the perfect way to destroy the Democratic Party |
melody |
Apr-22-08 03:22 PM |
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So will Blue Collar, working class Democrats like myself who |
styersc |
Apr-22-08 03:26 PM |
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There is no cult -- there are only supporters many of whom see he IS our nominee |
melody |
Apr-22-08 03:29 PM |
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For the HRC people, it's only about beating Obama. November doesn't matter. |
azmouse |
Apr-22-08 03:31 PM |
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For HRC's people, I agree. For HRC, I'm afraid it's more complicated and nefarious than that |
melody |
Apr-22-08 05:06 PM |
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I'm sick of being called a sexist |
Blondbostonian |
Apr-22-08 03:29 PM |
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And I'm sick of being called a racist, too. |
dbaker41 |
Apr-22-08 04:39 PM |
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I do not belong to a cult. I am a Sen. Obama supporter. No more, no less. |
Window |
Apr-22-08 04:25 PM |
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I'm not a member of any cult. |
Nedsdag |
Apr-22-08 04:27 PM |
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I should point out I am a working class Democrat and 30 year Democratic party member |
melody |
Apr-22-08 08:26 PM |
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We don't elect by popular vote. nt |
elizm |
Apr-22-08 03:27 PM |
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Don't worry. She has zero chance of reaching him in popular vote. |
Dawgs |
Apr-22-08 03:57 PM |
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4 more hours to go. |
DerekJ |
Apr-22-08 03:15 PM |
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Looks like he isn't getting the turnout needed in his districts. |
Tatiana |
Apr-22-08 03:15 PM |
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This guy? |
redqueen |
Apr-22-08 03:15 PM |
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... |
prodn2000 |
Apr-22-08 03:21 PM |
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Sounds like street money is coming back to haunt. I said he would lose by 5-10 pts or more so it's |
ej510 |
Apr-22-08 03:22 PM |
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So do I. |
No Surrender |
Apr-22-08 03:24 PM |
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Vote in my poll! |
redqueen |
Apr-22-08 03:26 PM |
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Just did...thanks for the link. I hadn't seen your poll. |
No Surrender |
Apr-22-08 03:33 PM |
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Heheh... |
redqueen |
Apr-22-08 03:34 PM |
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I agree with you-he is sexy |
liberaldem4ever |
Apr-22-08 03:48 PM |
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Same here... |
redqueen |
Apr-22-08 03:55 PM |
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Must have missed it:( |
liberaldem4ever |
Apr-22-08 04:06 PM |
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Which just goes to show the old adage ... |
dbaker41 |
Apr-22-08 04:41 PM |
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It is! |
redqueen |
Apr-22-08 04:45 PM |
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Oh well, so be it. I'm thinking this thing will go to the convention, unfortunately |
book_worm |
Apr-22-08 03:16 PM |
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book_worm did you hear Obama himself is saying this will go to June? |
jackson_dem |
Apr-22-08 04:26 PM |
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How much was Philly manipulation with too few machines, ballots, or naything to with programming? |
MarjorieG |
Apr-22-08 03:19 PM |
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I had a feeling things were bad - with Richardson on talking about |
Laura PackYourBags |
Apr-22-08 03:23 PM |
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When did Axelrod say that? He did not sound like that this morning. nt |
my3boyz |
Apr-22-08 03:25 PM |
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On Morning Joe - did you interpret it differently?? |
Laura PackYourBags |
Apr-22-08 03:39 PM |
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Hmmmm...yeah I did. I took it as him trying to manage expectations. I wasn't sure |
my3boyz |
Apr-22-08 03:52 PM |
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The Newsweek guy, I think, who KO always has on. |
book_worm |
Apr-22-08 03:25 PM |
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Sorry I misspelled his name |
tishaLA |
Apr-22-08 03:27 PM |
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And Obama apparently thinks he has no shot in IN |
jackson_dem |
Apr-22-08 04:27 PM |
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Sounds like they are expecting a 12% loss |
featherman |
Apr-22-08 03:24 PM |
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why do you think 12? |
Laura PackYourBags |
Apr-22-08 03:40 PM |
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Just a guess from the quote "anything less than 15%" |
featherman |
Apr-22-08 04:18 PM |
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Strange considering all Ive heard is that there is heavy turnout. |
hnmnf |
Apr-22-08 03:25 PM |
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Perhaps not in the areas where he is strong. nt |
my3boyz |
Apr-22-08 03:26 PM |
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Supposedly turnout is great in Clinton strongholds |
jackson_dem |
Apr-22-08 04:28 PM |
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Here is what Ed Rendell is to have said at his lunch |
MoJoWorkin |
Apr-22-08 03:26 PM |
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He could be lowering expectations. He is too close to Hillary |
my3boyz |
Apr-22-08 03:28 PM |
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From the rhetorical positioning of both... |
Secret_Society |
Apr-22-08 03:26 PM |
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I don't understand why enthusiastic people wouldn't vote, and there's |
babylonsister |
Apr-22-08 03:33 PM |
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I don't either - You see people with tears in their eyes after he |
Laura PackYourBags |
Apr-22-08 03:42 PM |
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They are voting--for Clinton |
jackson_dem |
Apr-22-08 04:28 PM |
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Obama: 35,000 Supporters in Philadelphia; Clinton:400. |
maryallen |
Apr-22-08 04:31 PM |
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don't people in the burbs vote after work? |
BklynChick |
Apr-22-08 03:26 PM |
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Yes, and in the city as well---also, I was seeing reports where |
MoJoWorkin |
Apr-22-08 03:30 PM |
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Obama tends to do worse after work. Look at the exit polls from the past |
jackson_dem |
Apr-22-08 04:29 PM |
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Just read on nytimes.com that the Philly suburbs have heavy turnout |
hnmnf |
Apr-22-08 03:29 PM |
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So, A KEITH Olbermann buddy 'jounalist' spinning a tall tale--aka LYING |
rodeodance |
Apr-22-08 03:36 PM |
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stop pulling stuff out of your rear |
cali |
Apr-22-08 03:40 PM |
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hopefully it's just a managing expectations thing |
BklynChick |
Apr-22-08 03:31 PM |
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I think there might atleast be a late boost for Obama. Alot of suburb type will get off work... |
malik flavors |
Apr-22-08 03:35 PM |
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Just read that it was reported that there is record breaking turnout in Bucks County |
hnmnf |
Apr-22-08 04:17 PM |
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Was that info in a blog or actual article? Just curious! nt |
my3boyz |
Apr-22-08 04:18 PM |
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Actual article from CBS Philly |
hnmnf |
Apr-22-08 04:19 PM |
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It ain't over 'til it's over |
TragedyandHope |
Apr-22-08 04:27 PM |
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What! After all the millions of dollars and negative ads...he's losing? |
Auntie Bush |
Apr-22-08 04:28 PM |
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he talks about the changes he wants to make in each speech |
tishaLA |
Apr-22-08 04:46 PM |
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Are you insinuating all Pennsylvanians are blind and deaf as well as bitter? |
Auntie Bush |
Apr-22-08 04:51 PM |
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Nope. Just that YOU, who said he lacks specifics |
tishaLA |
Apr-22-08 04:56 PM |
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Small? Just like all those Pennsylvanians that are going to vote for Hillary? |
Auntie Bush |
Apr-22-08 05:24 PM |
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Hang in there. The Philly burbs vote late in the day. |
dmsRoar |
Apr-22-08 04:32 PM |
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For the last few days Barry has been trying to downplay expectations... |
joeybee12 |
Apr-22-08 04:47 PM |
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