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SoCalDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-22-08 12:44 PM
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85. C'mon people,, use those camera-phones and SHOW us one..
Anecdotal 2nd hand information usually blows up in our faces..

It's probably impossible to leave with a ballot, but surely SOMEONE could at least take a picture of one.. That would make front page news in just about ANY newspaper..

I'm not saying it isn't true..but.. we should have some proof.. It's not that hard to get..

We look stupid when we report on "Susie said her aunt's neighbor said"
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  -Caller to Stephanie's Show Said Some Ballots in Pa Don't Have Obama's Name ellacott  Apr-22-08 09:43 AM   #0 
  - those must be left-over ballots from the Michigan 'primary'...  islandmkl   Apr-22-08 09:44 AM   #1 
  - Now that's one way to fix an election! Surely it's not true!  flpoljunkie   Apr-22-08 09:44 AM   #2 
  - That's not good..../nt  bluetrain   Apr-22-08 09:44 AM   #3 
  - Just heard that...  ncrainbowgrrl   Apr-22-08 09:44 AM   #4 
  - GODDAMNIT  helderheid   Apr-22-08 09:45 AM   #5 
  - Here we go. n/t  sfexpat2000   Apr-22-08 09:47 AM   #10 
     - hold on tight!  helderheid   Apr-22-08 09:55 AM   #24 
        - Did that turn out to be just a flyer? n/t  sfexpat2000   Apr-22-08 12:35 PM   #79 
  - Picture of ballot  mystieus   Apr-22-08 09:45 AM   #6 
  - Well that's not good! n/t  MaineDem   Apr-22-08 09:47 AM   # 
  - It's all about WALKING AROUND MONEY. See post 53 below.  Divernan   Apr-22-08 10:22 AM   #58 
  - That's the sample ballot, not the actual, working ballot.  IanDB1   Apr-22-08 09:49 AM   #13 
  - This is a sample ballot. They have voting machines.  Connie_Corleone   Apr-22-08 09:49 AM   #17 
  - I think the caller is referring to Provisional Ballot  SunsetDreams   Apr-24-08 05:47 AM   #100 
  - GODDAMNIT!!!  helderheid   Apr-22-08 09:50 AM   #18 
  - It looks like several names may be missing from the sample ballot  IanDB1   Apr-22-08 09:53 AM   #21 
  - Of course there are names missing. People make sample ballots all the time...  Maddy McCall   Apr-22-08 10:00 AM   #29 
     - Deleted message  Name removed   Apr-22-08 10:07 AM   #42 
  - It's a Philly ballot and the Mayor and Gov. I love Farrakahan Rendel are pretty influential there.  MidwestTransplant   Apr-22-08 09:53 AM   #22 
  - You do know what a sample ballot is, don't you?  Maddy McCall   Apr-22-08 09:58 AM   #26 
  - The sky is falling.  onehandle   Apr-22-08 10:02 AM   #33 
  - In many states "sample ballot" is an exact copy of the ballot  MaineDem   Apr-22-08 10:08 AM   #46 
     - Here in PA  InsultComicDog   Apr-22-08 10:11 AM   #49 
        - GOOD INFORMATION HERE  crankychatter   Apr-22-08 10:26 AM   #62 
        - Even County Democratic Committees?  Emit   Apr-22-08 10:29 AM   #66 
           - no reason they can't  InsultComicDog   Apr-22-08 04:46 PM   #97 
  - That looks like it is a particular faction's ballot - it obviously doesn't  NCevilDUer   Apr-22-08 10:04 AM   #37 
  - Looks like this is payback to Obama for not continuing corrupt "WALKING AROUND" money to local dems.  Divernan   Apr-22-08 10:17 AM   #53 
  - Does gas money count?  guruoo   Apr-22-08 11:05 AM   #76 
  - That's not a real ballot, that's a local party handout.  guruoo   Apr-22-08 10:31 AM   #67 
  - "You may take this ballot into the voting booth with you"  cornermouse   Apr-22-08 11:00 AM   #73 
  - and the voting hours are given -- you wouldn't see that on a real sample  gkhouston   Apr-22-08 12:46 PM   #86 
  - "Paid for by the Democratic County Executive Committee of Philadelphia"  phrigndumass   Apr-22-08 03:42 PM   #96 
  - I hope they're GOP ballots  MaineDem   Apr-22-08 09:46 AM   #7 
  - Watch THIS space for photos....  IanDB1   Apr-22-08 09:46 AM   #8 
  - Those are Sample ballots, not the actual ballots.  Connie_Corleone   Apr-22-08 09:46 AM   #9 
  - That's good news  ellacott   Apr-22-08 09:47 AM   #12 
  - But sample ballots should be copies of the real one.  MaineDem   Apr-22-08 09:49 AM   #15 
  - It may not be an official sample ballot, but may actually be a "Voting Guide."  IanDB1   Apr-22-08 09:55 AM   #23 
     - Good point  MaineDem   Apr-22-08 09:58 AM   #27 
     - As far as I know, they ARE allowed to take sides during a Primary.  IanDB1   Apr-22-08 10:02 AM   #32 
     - That's what it is. It's a voting guide being handed out to tell people how to vote.  yardwork   Apr-22-08 09:59 AM   #28 
     - It Seems To Me  Irishonly   Apr-22-08 11:05 AM   #77 
  - Why are they handing out sample ballots?  mystieus   Apr-22-08 09:49 AM   #16 
  - Just great looks like this already is going to be a clusterfuck of a primary.  Zachstar   Apr-22-08 09:47 AM   #11 
  - Someone needs to call the Obama campaign/voter issue line and alert them of this right away.  Kittycat   Apr-22-08 09:49 AM   #14 
  - They know about it.  Connie_Corleone   Apr-22-08 09:50 AM   #19 
  - I would go freaking nuts if somebody handed me that ballot.  olkaz   Apr-22-08 09:51 AM   #20 
  - Nothing new here - It's been common practice for as long as I can remember  guruoo   Apr-22-08 10:38 AM   #69 
  - They'd need an elephant tranquilizer to calm me down.  Lucky 13   Apr-22-08 12:36 PM   #80 
  - why?  2rth2pwr   Apr-22-08 03:37 PM   #93 
  - Every machine in PA  Jake3463   Apr-22-08 09:56 AM   #25 
  - Sample ballots. Get a grip. nt  onehandle   Apr-22-08 10:00 AM   #30 
  - Voting guide disguised as a sample ballot. n/t  IanDB1   Apr-22-08 10:02 AM   #35 
     - And not the screen from the voting booth.  onehandle   Apr-22-08 10:04 AM   #36 
     - Agreed. Not the end of the world. n/t  IanDB1   Apr-22-08 10:08 AM   #45 
     - A "voting guide" IS a sample ballot.  Maddy McCall   Apr-22-08 10:16 AM   #52 
        - NO IT'S NOT.  yourguide   Apr-22-08 10:26 AM   #63 
        - But this one says "OFFICIAL" on it, which is a lie. n/t  IanDB1   Apr-22-08 10:28 AM   #65 
  - Bwahahaha! So this is the excuse for when hillary trounces barack tonight.  Maddy McCall   Apr-22-08 10:01 AM   #31 
  - Deleted message  Name removed   Apr-22-08 10:07 AM   #43 
  - Do you know what a "voting guide" is?  Maddy McCall   Apr-22-08 10:12 AM   #50 
     - Deleted message  Name removed   Apr-22-08 10:18 AM   #54 
        - This 'mislabling' thing is nothing new...  guruoo   Apr-22-08 10:57 AM   #72 
        - BURN!  Lucky 13   Apr-22-08 12:37 PM   #81 
        - what's with the namecalling?  Beaverhausen   Apr-22-08 03:37 PM   #94 
  - Can't you find something else to besides posting the same thing in this thread  ellacott   Apr-22-08 10:08 AM   #44 
  - you are off you talking point for today maddie  swampg8r   Apr-22-08 10:19 AM   #55 
  - So we are all on the same page  BornBlue   Apr-22-08 10:51 AM   #71 
  - It is not unheard of for supporters of a campaign to hand out "sample ballots" with only their name  orangepeel68   Apr-22-08 10:02 AM   #34 
  - Historically, a common practice. Ironically, especially in Chicago. nt  onehandle   Apr-22-08 10:05 AM   #38 
  - So long as they don't do it inside the polling place, or right outside the door, it's probably legal  IanDB1   Apr-22-08 10:06 AM   #40 
  - They pass them out right in the doorway  InsultComicDog   Apr-22-08 10:09 AM   #47 
     - 150' here.  Maddy McCall   Apr-22-08 10:15 AM   #51 
  - It's a Democratic County Executive Committee, not a supporter  WesDem   Apr-22-08 10:28 AM   #64 
     - sure it is. That's the way machine politics works.  orangepeel68   Apr-22-08 11:05 AM   #75 
  - It being a sample ballot makes it epsilonishly better, but that's all.  BlooInBloo   Apr-22-08 10:05 AM   #39 
  - silly season  InsultComicDog   Apr-22-08 10:07 AM   #41 
  - Ha ha. All your vote are belong to us!  NoPasaran   Apr-22-08 10:11 AM   #48 
  - huh?  CountAllVotes   Apr-22-08 10:24 AM   #61 
  - It's a nerd reference...  Lucky 13   Apr-22-08 12:40 PM   #84 
  - Explained:  Progs Rock   Apr-22-08 03:39 PM   #95 
  - And all Hillary's base are belong to us!!  Lucky 13   Apr-22-08 12:38 PM   #82 
  - Maybe if Obama's bill on Deceptive election practices had been passed  maximusveritas   Apr-22-08 10:21 AM   #56 
  - What a bunch of uninformed maroons.  uberblonde   Apr-22-08 10:21 AM   #57 
  - an uberblonde is calling someone else a maroon  ellacott   Apr-22-08 10:39 AM   #70 
  - Are you talking about FLYERS or BALLOTS?  sfexpat2000   Apr-22-08 12:34 PM   #78 
  - Of COURSE, it's only a partisan handout...  liam_laddie   Apr-22-08 01:18 PM   #87 
     - I know the systems are mixed in PA unlike in other places  sfexpat2000   Apr-22-08 01:20 PM   #88 
  - Well, that decision must have been an evil conspiracy, too.  aquart   Apr-24-08 06:02 AM   #101 
  - This is what political machines do.  grantcart   Apr-22-08 10:22 AM   #59 
  - yeah, i can't believe people talk about machine politics so kindly  clevbot   Apr-22-08 10:23 AM   #60 
     - The interesting thing is that in place after place people have abandoned the local machine  grantcart   Apr-22-08 10:36 AM   #68 
  - Gee, funny how  shellgame26   Apr-22-08 11:02 AM   #74 
  - kick  npincus   Apr-22-08 12:40 PM   #83 
  - C'mon people,, use those camera-phones and SHOW us one..  SoCalDem   Apr-22-08 12:44 PM   #85 
  - If they are talking about the image in post 6, that isn't a ballot  Yael   Apr-22-08 03:29 PM   #90 
     - exactly.. if there are real paper ballots with problems  SoCalDem   Apr-22-08 03:32 PM   #91 
  - This isn't what you all think. Mayor just stopped into the Obama office and I showed it to him  Yael   Apr-22-08 03:28 PM   #89 
  - how does someone have a copy of the ballot? you cant remove them... fake.  Texas Hill Country   Apr-22-08 03:33 PM   #92 
  - If it's a "sample" ballot they should have made up different names for it.  Vinca   Apr-22-08 04:50 PM   #98 
  - That is a made up thing?  izzie   Apr-24-08 05:44 AM   #99 

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