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Joanne98 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-20-08 08:09 AM
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73. Right on the money!
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  -The coming party clash will be between the "activists" and the "governing" class. madfloridian  Apr-19-08 11:37 AM   #0 
  - Yup. Clinton supporters + republicans on one side, the rest of us on the other...  BlooInBloo   Apr-19-08 11:40 AM   #1 
  - 2008 has a whole different calculus. Trust me on that.  MindMatter   Apr-19-08 12:46 PM   #29 
     - yeah, let's get rid of 10 million Democrats  paulk   Apr-19-08 05:47 PM   #53 
     - Correction. 10,000,000 DINOs  MindMatter   Apr-19-08 09:23 PM   #64 
        - your "calculus" is beyond stupid.  paulk   Apr-19-08 10:50 PM   #65 
           - Do you have any idea how many new voters Obama has registered?  MindMatter   Apr-20-08 10:28 AM   #78 
              - ten million?  paulk   Apr-20-08 01:25 PM   #86 
                 - It is millions already,  MindMatter   Apr-20-08 02:36 PM   #89 
                    - Here's some data to ponder,  MindMatter   Apr-20-08 02:43 PM   #90 
                       - yeah, like none of those Republicans voting for Obama  paulk   Apr-20-08 07:47 PM   #94 
     - I agree with that.  junofeb   Apr-19-08 06:20 PM   #57 
  - thank you MadFlo  SoFlaJet   Apr-19-08 11:40 AM   #2 
  - I think it was.  madfloridian   Apr-19-08 11:41 AM   #3 
  - Which Group Does Obama Think He's More Beholden To?  Crisco   Apr-19-08 11:43 AM   #4 
  - I would hope he would do what is best for the country.  madfloridian   Apr-19-08 12:18 PM   #19 
  - considering he spent time organizing disenfranchised in Chicago, I'd say the answer is obvious  cryingshame   Apr-19-08 05:25 PM   #49 
  - I'll be #3.  ulysses   Apr-19-08 11:43 AM   #5 
  - K&R  VenusRising   Apr-19-08 11:43 AM   #6 
  - VenusRising: Who is the source for that great quote?  LongTomH   Apr-19-08 12:35 PM   #25 
     - Samuel Adams.  VenusRising   Apr-19-08 12:53 PM   #30 
        - Thank you!  LongTomH   Apr-19-08 10:50 PM   #66 
        - Love his beer. nm  rhett o rick   Apr-20-08 11:49 AM   #84 
  - Again! that tendency to embroider the facts to fit her agenda. : - (((((((((((((( nt  patrice   Apr-19-08 11:44 AM   #7 
  - also what is becoming clear  SoFlaJet   Apr-19-08 11:45 AM   #8 
  - The whole FL and MI exercise...  Cassandra   Apr-19-08 12:05 PM   #15 
     - Yes.  madfloridian   Apr-19-08 12:06 PM   #16 
     - Which makes the chaos...  Cassandra   Apr-19-08 12:08 PM   #17 
        - The party chaos does not bother them.  madfloridian   Apr-19-08 01:04 PM   #32 
     - Interesting theory... and it really does fit.  Tatiana   Apr-19-08 12:24 PM   #21 
     - The day of the vote emails were sent out saying Dean "disenfranchised" us.  madfloridian   Apr-19-08 12:26 PM   #22 
        - I just want to thank you...  Cassandra   Apr-19-08 12:43 PM   #27 
           - Well, I can tell you..  madfloridian   Apr-19-08 02:59 PM   #44 
     - BINGO  YDogg   Apr-20-08 11:36 AM   #81 
  - "These activists 'are going to be very intolerant of Democrats who cooperate with the GOP"  PM7nj   Apr-19-08 11:46 AM   #9 
  - Note To Senator Clinton....  SoFlaJet   Apr-19-08 11:48 AM   #11 
  - Yes! Exactly. This is framed dead wrong. It's the Repubs who've turned their backs on negotiation.  calmblueocean   Apr-19-08 01:16 PM   #36 
  - Thanks for bringing this up "listen to each other even when we disagree"  crankychatter   Apr-19-08 01:19 PM   #38 
  - Ok...  PerpetuallyDazed   Apr-20-08 09:34 AM   #77 
  - Respectfully disagree. The republicans in Congress today have their main goal is to discredit  rhett o rick   Apr-20-08 11:53 AM   #85 
     - When Democrats reach across the Aisle  The Wizard   Apr-21-08 08:43 AM   #96 
        - Agree. The only way Democrats should be reaching across the isle is to stick their feet right up  rhett o rick   Apr-21-08 03:29 PM   #98 
  - Whats funny is when you see the good ol boys and girls  undeterred   Apr-19-08 11:48 AM   #10 
  - Having a "governing class" is the true meaning of elitism.  dkf   Apr-19-08 11:49 AM   #12 
  - We shouldn't allow them to frame us.  The Backlash Cometh   Apr-19-08 11:51 AM   #13 
  - I Don't Like That Activism  Irishonly   Apr-19-08 12:16 PM   #18 
  - "Activism" doesn't have a negative connotation anywhere but amoung washingon insiders  Political Heretic   Apr-19-08 01:09 PM   #34 
     - Activist = dissenter = stink'n liberal. At least, that's how the commissioners  The Backlash Cometh   Apr-19-08 01:17 PM   #37 
        - That would be an insider.  Political Heretic   Apr-19-08 01:19 PM   #39 
  - Recommended  SoFlaJet   Apr-19-08 11:59 AM   #14 
  - Screw you Hillary! Screw you and your elitist attitude  nomad1776   Apr-19-08 12:22 PM   #20 
  - Beware of this Republican divide and conquer meme!  windoe   Apr-19-08 12:30 PM   #23 
  - Perhaps you could direct those words to the Clinton campaign.  madfloridian   Apr-19-08 12:34 PM   #24 
  - oh that's just outrageous  grasswire   Apr-19-08 12:37 PM   #26 
  - Her own words.....read them.  madfloridian   Apr-19-08 12:44 PM   #28 
  - You're committing the part / whole fallacy.  Political Heretic   Apr-19-08 01:14 PM   #35 
     - I don't think that poster even read my post.  madfloridian   Apr-19-08 01:32 PM   #40 
  - Unfortunate that this ploy has worked so well,  windoe   Apr-19-08 12:55 PM   #31 
  - No peasants in sight  JoFerret   Apr-19-08 01:06 PM   #33 
  - 'against activists...calling them fringe'  realpolitik   Apr-19-08 01:49 PM   #41 
  - Exactly- creating the illusion that mainstream America  windoe   Apr-19-08 02:22 PM   #43 
  - From the mouth of Mark Penn in 2005....  madfloridian   Apr-19-08 02:19 PM   #42 
  - I wonder if some would like to eat their words from 2004...Ickes? Brazile?  madfloridian   Apr-19-08 04:09 PM   #45 
  - Haven't Seen Any Symptoms of "Governing"  Demeter   Apr-19-08 04:53 PM   #46 
  - Ain't that the Truth! n/t  truedelphi   Apr-20-08 01:00 AM   #71 
  - And the last activist elected president was.....  Jakes Progress   Apr-19-08 05:11 PM   #47 
  - Is that "pure" remark directed at me? I hope not.  madfloridian   Apr-19-08 05:21 PM   #48 
  - "So in my later wise years, I may not be a pure as you"  madfloridian   Apr-19-08 05:43 PM   #51 
  - Didn't mean to touch a nerve.  Jakes Progress   Apr-19-08 06:26 PM   #58 
     - Again, there you go...Judging who I am.  madfloridian   Apr-19-08 06:37 PM   #59 
     - That war you think I want???? It IS going on right now.  madfloridian   Apr-19-08 06:45 PM   #61 
     - The loud drums you think are coming from left wing nuts  windoe   Apr-19-08 11:24 PM   #67 
     - My problem, which stymies me and maybe you can help me sort it ut is this:  truedelphi   Apr-20-08 12:56 AM   #70 
        - Me too.  Jakes Progress   Apr-20-08 11:22 AM   #79 
  - This is one reason I do not like labels  windoe   Apr-19-08 06:07 PM   #56 
     - Okay, we agree.  Jakes Progress   Apr-20-08 11:34 AM   #80 
  - Fuck the Clinton's ...fuck the DLC ...fuck the repukes ...this is war !  L0oniX   Apr-19-08 05:42 PM   #50 
  - Damn! Maybe I should have put Hillary's own words in the OP  madfloridian   Apr-19-08 05:47 PM   #52 
  - those damn activists, they screw everything up  WillYourVoteBCounted   Apr-19-08 05:51 PM   #54 
  - Activist here!  knixphan   Apr-19-08 05:54 PM   #55 
  - K&R  New Dawn   Apr-19-08 06:39 PM   #60 
  - I'm ready!  bvar22   Apr-19-08 08:46 PM   #62 
  - Great picture, great statement by Wellstone.  madfloridian   Apr-19-08 09:19 PM   #63 
  - What a beautiful man. What a great loss.  undeterred   Apr-20-08 08:05 AM   #72 
  - It's a revolution within the Democratic party.  hulka38   Apr-19-08 11:49 PM   #68 
  - I think so.  madfloridian   Apr-20-08 12:43 AM   #69 
  - Right on the money!  Joanne98   Apr-20-08 08:09 AM   #73 
  - The Internets have brought the regular people together and  Vinca   Apr-20-08 08:10 AM   #74 
  - You got that right! The Activists far outnumber the Political Ruling Class.  ShortnFiery   Apr-20-08 08:23 AM   #75 
  - And we're mad as hell and ain't gona take it anymore. nm  rhett o rick   Apr-20-08 11:43 AM   #82 
  - It's about DAMN TIME!  PerpetuallyDazed   Apr-20-08 09:29 AM   #76 
  - IMHO the Clintons and the DLC would rather the repukes win than let the "Activists" get control.  rhett o rick   Apr-20-08 11:45 AM   #83 
  - I am aligned with my kids on this one  HockeyMom   Apr-20-08 01:52 PM   #87 
  - Did she say "activist class?"  Sparkly   Apr-20-08 01:55 PM   #88 
  - She used the words "activist base".....which is us.  madfloridian   Apr-20-08 03:12 PM   #92 
  - I'm feeling like  me b zola   Apr-20-08 02:59 PM   #91 
  - So, which "class" was someone like Paul Wellstone?  Canuckistanian   Apr-20-08 05:04 PM   #93 
  - This should answer your question  democracy1st   Apr-20-08 09:10 PM   #95 
  - It's party realignment. It's fun - it's a party!  BlooInBloo   Apr-21-08 08:44 AM   #97 
 

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