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Fri Apr-18-08 04:59 PM
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The internet doesn't forget anything you throw out there, though.
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| -Another Coup By HRC; She Loses BOTH MoveOn AND FDL In One Fell Swoop |
SoFlaJet |
Apr-18-08 04:33 PM |
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moveon lost me about 6 months ago |
grasswire |
Apr-18-08 04:35 PM |
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many others... |
trumad |
Apr-18-08 04:35 PM |
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I guess you missed the chatter about it. (eom) |
grasswire |
Apr-18-08 04:51 PM |
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more like 8-10... and guess what, most of the center could care less about move on. |
Texas Hill Country |
Apr-18-08 04:38 PM |
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The "center" needs to pull its head out of its collective ass |
thecatburgler |
Apr-19-08 01:46 AM |
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MoveOn's dishonesty floored me. |
Maribelle |
Apr-18-08 05:05 PM |
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Dishonesty floored you? |
Citizen_Penn |
Apr-18-08 05:55 PM |
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"Really?" is the right question. |
LeviathanCrumbling |
Apr-18-08 06:13 PM |
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Personal Attacks are against DU rules. Please do not support them. |
Maribelle |
Apr-18-08 07:37 PM |
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Personal Attacks are against DU rules - |
Maribelle |
Apr-18-08 07:36 PM |
#106 |
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you really are acting like a rightwinger |
democracy1st |
Apr-20-08 07:47 AM |
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I support Moveon. Hillary needs to go on vacation. The wheels are |
roguevalley |
Apr-18-08 05:44 PM |
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Me, too |
OzarkDem |
Apr-18-08 05:53 PM |
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I took my money and left |
wrando |
Apr-18-08 06:12 PM |
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they lost me as well..n/t |
jbm |
Apr-18-08 08:26 PM |
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What did MoveOn do 6 months ago to lose you? n/t |
krkaufman |
Apr-19-08 01:09 AM |
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Endorsed someone not named Clinton |
krawhitham |
Apr-19-08 01:16 AM |
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No, that can't be it. n/t |
krkaufman |
Apr-19-08 02:15 AM |
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funny, you weren't missed |
krawhitham |
Apr-19-08 01:14 AM |
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I'll wait until there's an actual tape before I can answer your question. nt |
gateley |
Apr-18-08 04:36 PM |
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Link. |
JenniferZ |
Apr-18-08 05:59 PM |
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Thanks -- NOW I can get pissed! |
gateley |
Apr-18-08 06:53 PM |
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Hillary Lieberman Clinton |
Oregonian |
Apr-18-08 04:38 PM |
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Hillary Lieberman McSame is more like it. |
Kittycat |
Apr-18-08 04:40 PM |
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Exactly. It used to be, to win, you went GOP. Now, to win, you pretend Dem |
jazzjunkysue |
Apr-18-08 05:09 PM |
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Did you read the article on Huffpo!?!?! |
cbayer |
Apr-18-08 05:18 PM |
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can you link the hamsher post? |
slinkerwink |
Apr-18-08 04:39 PM |
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It's weird |
SoFlaJet |
Apr-18-08 04:45 PM |
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... |
L0oniX |
Apr-18-08 04:49 PM |
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Here... |
TahitiNut |
Apr-18-08 07:59 PM |
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Link? |
Oreo |
Apr-18-08 04:41 PM |
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Here it is. |
JenniferZ |
Apr-18-08 05:58 PM |
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She actually made a statement in a speech she gave this afternoon |
Vinca |
Apr-18-08 04:42 PM |
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FDL doesn't have it up, so it must be from a speech |
FLDem5 |
Apr-18-08 05:00 PM |
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Hillary's MoveOn trashing was from February |
krkaufman |
Apr-19-08 02:32 AM |
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Well if she lost FDL |
gaiilonfong |
Apr-18-08 04:44 PM |
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I just went to Huffpo |
cbayer |
Apr-18-08 04:49 PM |
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I had it up at the top cbayer |
SoFlaJet |
Apr-18-08 04:55 PM |
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I think they're working on it. |
Arrowhead2k1 |
Apr-18-08 04:57 PM |
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It's a red headline at HP |
SoFlaJet |
Apr-18-08 05:00 PM |
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Here you go girlfriend! |
cryingshame |
Apr-18-08 05:56 PM |
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she is clearly losing it |
SoFlaJet |
Apr-18-08 06:00 PM |
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now we know what Hillary really thinks of grassroots. All she gives a shit about are big-money |
cryingshame |
Apr-18-08 06:01 PM |
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Bravely, Jane came back up |
SoFlaJet |
Apr-18-08 06:10 PM |
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Perhaps because they were having a knee jerk reaction to a headline. |
cbayer |
Apr-18-08 04:59 PM |
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K & R |
Scurrilous |
Apr-18-08 04:51 PM |
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Completely alienate the Liberal base of her own party? |
Arrowhead2k1 |
Apr-18-08 04:54 PM |
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Did you read the Huffpo piece!?!?!? |
cbayer |
Apr-18-08 05:20 PM |
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Here's link to Jane Hamsher's post at Firedoglake and read the Comments... |
KoKo01 |
Apr-18-08 08:49 PM |
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I posted what you are responding to during the period of no information. |
cbayer |
Apr-18-08 10:30 PM |
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She's doing such a good job uniting the party.... |
NJSecularist |
Apr-18-08 04:55 PM |
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There are eight recommendations on a story that is not even there. |
cbayer |
Apr-18-08 04:56 PM |
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it was there cb-I copied and pasted it |
SoFlaJet |
Apr-18-08 04:57 PM |
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You didn't do anything wrong SoFla. I'm not trying to slam you. |
cbayer |
Apr-18-08 05:04 PM |
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no I got it from Firedoglake |
SoFlaJet |
Apr-18-08 05:06 PM |
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I think they deleted when they saw there was no actual story on Huffpo. |
cbayer |
Apr-18-08 05:12 PM |
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Probably... what is HuffPo doing? |
PM7nj |
Apr-18-08 05:20 PM |
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Hamsher deleted her post |
Oreo |
Apr-18-08 04:58 PM |
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Now THAT is weird. |
crispini |
Apr-18-08 04:59 PM |
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well then I'm glad I happened to catch it |
SoFlaJet |
Apr-18-08 05:01 PM |
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Exactly... |
Oreo |
Apr-18-08 05:03 PM |
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Are you the same Oreo that posted this at dkos? |
cbayer |
Apr-18-08 05:45 PM |
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It's up on dKos, too. |
americanstranger |
Apr-18-08 05:30 PM |
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no I knew I didn't just step off into Crazyland |
SoFlaJet |
Apr-18-08 05:32 PM |
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The dkos post refers back to your OP. |
cbayer |
Apr-18-08 05:43 PM |
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I wonder if I should edit it out |
SoFlaJet |
Apr-18-08 05:47 PM |
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If she took it down, she might want you to take it down. |
cbayer |
Apr-18-08 05:53 PM |
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I wouldn't accuse you of that, SFJ. |
americanstranger |
Apr-18-08 05:48 PM |
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thank you and |
SoFlaJet |
Apr-18-08 05:49 PM |
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The dkos post is the letter from this OP and links back to this OP. |
cbayer |
Apr-18-08 05:37 PM |
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I think we're stuck in a feedback loop. |
americanstranger |
Apr-18-08 05:39 PM |
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Nope, the dkos post was 15 minutes after this OP. |
cbayer |
Apr-18-08 05:51 PM |
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OK HP now has this up |
SoFlaJet |
Apr-18-08 05:53 PM |
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Oh, not good. |
americanstranger |
Apr-18-08 05:58 PM |
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Actually I think her response was to the headline. |
cbayer |
Apr-18-08 06:00 PM |
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Here it is ... |
TahitiNut |
Apr-18-08 08:04 PM |
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That does it.....it's not Hillary's trashing of "Move On" but here trashing of FDL...and her buddy |
KoKo01 |
Apr-18-08 08:25 PM |
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The subtext of "who ya gonna vote for?" pervades this episode and others. |
TahitiNut |
Apr-18-08 08:56 PM |
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How many "working class folks" have enough stock or assets to worry about "Capital Gains Tax" |
KoKo01 |
Apr-18-08 09:05 PM |
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dupe |
KoKo01 |
Apr-18-08 08:51 PM |
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Here's Jane's Post (CURRENT) at FIREDOGLAKE...about this: |
KoKo01 |
Apr-18-08 08:52 PM |
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when was move-on founded? |
LSK |
Apr-18-08 05:03 PM |
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'97 or '98 |
PM7nj |
Apr-18-08 05:06 PM |
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In 1998 in response to the Lewinsky scandal. |
PA Democrat |
Apr-18-08 05:11 PM |
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In all honesty, MoveOn moved on to be an Obama activists. |
Maribelle |
Apr-18-08 05:03 PM |
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MoveOn did more work locally for John Kerry then the "coordinated offices" of the... |
PassingFair |
Apr-18-08 05:20 PM |
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Didn't they take a vote of Moveon members to see whom to endorse? |
Voice for Peace |
Apr-18-08 07:51 PM |
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Looks Like It's A Breaking Story... |
WillyT |
Apr-18-08 05:08 PM |
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It's been *developing * for over an hour |
cbayer |
Apr-18-08 05:15 PM |
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At This Point, Nothing Will Surprise Me |
WillyT |
Apr-18-08 05:17 PM |
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I even tried posting it there cb |
SoFlaJet |
Apr-18-08 05:18 PM |
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I saw one linking back to this OP. |
cbayer |
Apr-18-08 05:24 PM |
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maybe they're having website problems. |
Voice for Peace |
Apr-18-08 07:52 PM |
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Here's Jane's Post...CURRENT from Firedoglake..with comments... |
KoKo01 |
Apr-18-08 08:55 PM |
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Thank You !!! |
WillyT |
Apr-18-08 09:06 PM |
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Move On are great, I did some work for them in the last elections |
tigereye |
Apr-18-08 05:09 PM |
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Still no story on Huffpo, but 456 comments and your OP has 11 recommendations. |
cbayer |
Apr-18-08 05:10 PM |
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Reminds me of Drudge Report... |
PM7nj |
Apr-18-08 05:12 PM |
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How about producing the tape that Hillary was caught on? Is that too much to ask? |
Maribelle |
Apr-18-08 05:13 PM |
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Did she ever have them |
Jake3463 |
Apr-18-08 05:14 PM |
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I think that she doesn't realize that... |
butterfly77 |
Apr-18-08 05:15 PM |
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wow this is turning into quite the coup here at DU |
SoFlaJet |
Apr-18-08 05:16 PM |
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DU Clinton Supporters'll stay with her tho! They NEVER change their minds! |
BlooInBloo |
Apr-18-08 05:17 PM |
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Assuming a mind was issued nt. |
Citizen_Penn |
Apr-18-08 05:55 PM |
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Welcome to DU. |
cbayer |
Apr-18-08 06:08 PM |
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AmericaBlog: "...you won't be pleased when you find out what she said." |
PM7nj |
Apr-18-08 05:32 PM |
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In the comments |
americanstranger |
Apr-18-08 05:55 PM |
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Jane pulled her post... |
LowerManhattanite |
Apr-18-08 05:33 PM |
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we caught it here |
SoFlaJet |
Apr-18-08 05:36 PM |
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it's just weird, the whole story development |
slinkerwink |
Apr-18-08 05:39 PM |
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I would imagine there are a LOT of peak-time minutes being burned up ... |
LowerManhattanite |
Apr-18-08 05:48 PM |
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Obviously Jane wrote it |
SoFlaJet |
Apr-18-08 05:51 PM |
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It's on FireDogLake right here ... |
TahitiNut |
Apr-18-08 08:06 PM |
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I just went over to FIREDOGLAKE...here's Jane's Post with the comments: |
KoKo01 |
Apr-18-08 08:53 PM |
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Yeah, losing MoveOn's support is a real heartbreaker. |
Straight Shooter |
Apr-18-08 05:35 PM |
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Jane Hamsher's Post at Firedoglake...about this...and the comments at: |
KoKo01 |
Apr-18-08 08:50 PM |
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That is a disingenuous assessment by Jane Hamsher. |
Straight Shooter |
Apr-19-08 11:02 AM |
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Still no story on Huffpo, but 760 comments. |
cbayer |
Apr-18-08 05:40 PM |
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Waiting and wondering....Bump...n/t |
DearAbby |
Apr-18-08 05:48 PM |
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The story is up now |
Hardhead |
Apr-18-08 05:56 PM |
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Thanks, very revealing.......n/t |
DearAbby |
Apr-18-08 06:23 PM |
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Guys |
ErinBerin84 |
Apr-18-08 05:51 PM |
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She's complaining because People |
DearAbby |
Apr-18-08 06:26 PM |
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Huffpo has finally put up the actual article. nt. |
cbayer |
Apr-18-08 05:54 PM |
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It's up. Here's the link. |
JenniferZ |
Apr-18-08 05:56 PM |
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Jane's back on record with her post... |
LowerManhattanite |
Apr-18-08 05:58 PM |
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That's it? |
PM7nj |
Apr-18-08 05:58 PM |
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I agree |
ErinBerin84 |
Apr-18-08 06:00 PM |
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The parroting of Rove may have been the ol' camel back's straw... |
LowerManhattanite |
Apr-18-08 06:01 PM |
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Yea, I think that is the worst part... |
PM7nj |
Apr-18-08 06:07 PM |
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But if FDL is considering bailing on HRC, |
americanstranger |
Apr-18-08 06:11 PM |
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The comments aren't pretty. |
PM7nj |
Apr-18-08 06:28 PM |
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Here's Jane's full post on Firedoglake..and the Comments.... |
KoKo01 |
Apr-18-08 08:56 PM |
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Clinton Audio tape is online |
mrJJ |
Apr-18-08 06:03 PM |
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Ha ha ha - Hillary was speaking about what actually happend. |
Maribelle |
Apr-18-08 07:39 PM |
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'MoveOn types?' |
americanstranger |
Apr-18-08 08:09 PM |
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Hillary just lost the nomination |
TML |
Apr-18-08 07:43 PM |
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FDL too? |
redqueen |
Apr-18-08 07:48 PM |
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Wow. This is gonna be good. |
boppers |
Apr-18-08 07:49 PM |
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'When kitchen sinks go wrong...' |
knixphan |
Apr-18-08 07:50 PM |
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Well...NOW she's done it ....Stepped her foot in it..and Jane Hamsher and FDL...were one of the last |
KoKo01 |
Apr-18-08 08:09 PM |
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Screw 'em. What have they ever done for her. |
Lone_Star_Dem |
Apr-18-08 08:54 PM |
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They and "WE" could have done alot for her...if she'd cared about us.. |
KoKo01 |
Apr-18-08 08:58 PM |
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I do really understand that. |
Lone_Star_Dem |
Apr-18-08 09:02 PM |
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It's sad she doesn't remember what Salon Mag, Joe Conason/Gene Lyons and those of us who |
KoKo01 |
Apr-18-08 09:12 PM |
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Amazing considering MoveOn was started to defend against the attempt |
NC_Nurse |
Apr-18-08 09:05 PM |
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It's very hard to find any stretch of the imagination to defend Hillary on this.... |
KoKo01 |
Apr-18-08 09:08 PM |
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She lost MOveOne long ago, so what difference does it make? |
McCamy Taylor |
Apr-18-08 09:14 PM |
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It's not just about “losing” MoveOn... |
LowerManhattanite |
Apr-18-08 10:24 PM |
#139 |
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Good Point........since Jane has been very fair to be so neutal.. |
KoKo01 |
Apr-18-08 10:39 PM |
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a strong possibility here in a comment from a thread on this at dkos. |
caligirl |
Apr-19-08 01:39 AM |
#145 |
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"“So here’s the rule. You never repeat right wing talking points to attack your own, ever. " |
Straight Shooter |
Apr-19-08 11:14 AM |
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Taylor Marsh is trying to brush this off like nothing now. |
Arrowhead2k1 |
Apr-19-08 02:34 AM |
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so the porn princess says |
SoFlaJet |
Apr-19-08 11:17 AM |
#152 |
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