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jobycom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-19-08 11:45 AM
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70. Again, complete bullshit. You stab your allies in the back, you lose your allies.
You've got some fantasy based on internet rumors alone that Bush could have been prosecuted for something. Bush and Reagan had more investigations of them than any other president/VP team in our history, and there was not enough evidence to prosecute a goddamned thing, especially after Bush pardoned all the Iran/Contra figures who could have been forced to testify against him. There was no secret knowledge Clinton had that would have but BushCo in jail.

Clinton didn't roll over, he performed miracles for our side considering what he had to work with, and if you don't understand how much he accomplished, then you don't understand government, politics, America, liberalism, or any other goddamn thing. That goofy-assed fantasy that he could prosecuted Bush and won some sense of approval from the public and used that approval to force America to do what it refused to do is delusional. It causes harm, and does NOTHING to help us.

I used to think the Republicans were the enemy. Now I get it. Liberals and progressives fail because too damn many of them are too fucking stupid to understand when they are winning. They want people who tell them they are pretty rather than people who get things done. We deserve Obama, because we like crying about what we didn't get more than actually getting as much as we want. If he loses we can cry, if he wins we can scream "BETRAYAL!" when he governs like his voting record.

Clinton accomplished more for liberals than anyone since LBJ, and before that, FDR. And he did it without getting us into another Viet Nam, even though he was being pressured to. Smoke that for a while.
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  -***Breaking!: Sam Nunn & David Boren Endorse Barack Obama*** malik flavors  Apr-18-08 11:48 AM   #0 
  - are they super delegates?  lisa58   Apr-18-08 11:49 AM   #1 
  - Deleted message  Name removed   Apr-18-08 11:50 AM   #4 
     - thanks  lisa58   Apr-18-08 11:52 AM   #8 
        - I wouldn't believe that poster...  ClassWarrior   Apr-18-08 11:55 AM   # 
           - "P is for pizza, that's good enough for me!"  BlueDogDemocratNH   Apr-18-08 12:16 PM   #27 
  - Conservatives endorse the conservative - this was not expected?  papau   Apr-18-08 11:49 AM   #2 
  - Dont you get tired of your BS?  thewiseguy   Apr-18-08 11:51 AM   #6 
  - When one's life is hopeless and the only attention they can get is on a discussion board  burythehatchet   Apr-18-08 12:06 PM   #20 
  - that just shows your lack of understanding of politics - wow  asSEENonTV   Apr-18-08 11:51 AM   #7 
  - so you guys are reduced to baldfaced lying, having lost the race...  dionysus   Apr-18-08 12:02 PM   #15 
  - They learned that from the Queen of the Damned  me b zola   Apr-19-08 10:09 AM   #67 
  - Yesterday Obama was a radical becasue of his associations, now he's conservative?  malik flavors   Apr-18-08 12:04 PM   #18 
  - OMG -- Obama's a, a, *SCHIZOPHRENIC*! OMG, OMG, OMG!  Tesha   Apr-18-08 01:15 PM   #37 
  - Obama campaign has told you he'll do nothing on NAFTA, or on social programs like health as  papau   Apr-18-08 01:49 PM   #40 
     - tut, tut. reduced to  cali   Apr-19-08 09:42 AM   #64 
  - More like southerners endorse the candidate who can win southern states.  kwenu   Apr-18-08 12:08 PM   #23 
  - No, hon, learn to read AND comprehend....  Hepburn   Apr-18-08 01:18 PM   #39 
  - Oh, please. -nt  democrat2thecore   Apr-18-08 10:24 PM   #59 
  - lol. people here aren't as simplistic and stupid as  cali   Apr-19-08 09:40 AM   #63 
  - Desperate to stay relevant after losing all credibility? Poor thing. (nt)  Umbram   Apr-19-08 10:19 AM   #69 
  - I'm waiting for the Zell Miller - Hillary endorsement.  asSEENonTV   Apr-18-08 11:50 AM   #3 
  - That's some old-school endorsement right there.  Independent-Voter   Apr-18-08 11:51 AM   # 
  - Sam Nunn: "Gay men should not advertise their behavior". Wonderful.  Bluebear   Apr-18-08 11:51 AM   #5 
  - .  ClassWarrior   Apr-18-08 11:57 AM   #13 
  - He did? Tell me, What again was Bill Clinton's role in "don't ask, don't tell."  malik flavors   Apr-18-08 12:06 PM   #21 
  - Clinton wanted to lift the ban on gay men & women serving, as you know.  Bluebear   Apr-18-08 12:11 PM   #25 
     - Bill ROLLED OVER because he was TOO BIG A COWARD To fight for gays on that issue.  blm   Apr-18-08 05:42 PM   #45 
        - Bullshit. Sam Nunn stabbed Clinton and the Democrats in the back.  jobycom   Apr-18-08 09:16 PM   #57 
           - And Bill chose the COWARDS' way out and would NOT FIGHT. Do you even REALIZE how EVERY ISSUE  blm   Apr-19-08 09:37 AM   #61 
              - Again, complete bullshit. You stab your allies in the back, you lose your allies.  jobycom   Apr-19-08 11:45 AM   #70 
                 - You have TOTALLY FORGOTTEN about the release of BCCI report in Dec 1992 that REQUESTED  blm   Apr-19-08 01:03 PM   #73 
  - If Bill Clinton WANTED to fight DADT, he'd have set up a War Room like he did for NAFTA.  blm   Apr-18-08 12:14 PM   #26 
     - None for addressing global warming and alternative energy either.  thecatburgler   Apr-18-08 12:43 PM   #35 
  - Wow! It's an endorsement extravaganza!!!.......  Tarheel_Dem   Apr-18-08 11:52 AM   #9 
  - Boren and Nunn. Homophobes for Obama! Whee!  Bluebear   Apr-18-08 11:55 AM   #11 
     - you're a one trick pony aren't you...  dionysus   Apr-18-08 12:03 PM   #16 
     - Bluebear is a one-issue wonder  BlueDogDemocratNH   Apr-18-08 12:18 PM   #28 
        - You know nothing about me. Nothing.  Bluebear   Apr-18-08 12:23 PM   #29 
     - and if they endorsed Hillary what would you have to say?  book_worm   Apr-18-08 12:31 PM   #32 
     - Homophobes for Hillary! Disgraceful!!!  Bluebear   Apr-18-08 12:33 PM   #33 
     - Hi book_worm....  Tarheel_Dem   Apr-18-08 06:06 PM   #47 
        - Talk about passive aggressive  Bluebear   Apr-18-08 08:04 PM   #48 
     - Boren - a homophobe? That shows what you don't know! ;-) -----NT-  democrat2thecore   Apr-18-08 08:25 PM   #49 
        - It's possible to be both homo and homophobe. Just ask J. Edgar Hoover. n/t  QC   Apr-19-08 09:40 AM   #62 
  - That is three big endorsements for the day...  tokenlib   Apr-18-08 11:54 AM   #10 
  - Oh crap! Sam Nunn is a corporatist's corporatist  nichomachus   Apr-18-08 11:57 AM   #12 
  - It doesn't matter here, as long as it's a "number"  Bluebear   Apr-18-08 12:00 PM   #14 
  - Yeah  BlueIdaho   Apr-18-08 12:28 PM   #31 
     - There's no room for homophobia or racism in the party, for instance.  Bluebear   Apr-18-08 12:38 PM   #34 
        - DAVID BOREN IS NOT A FUCKING HOMOPHOBE.  SoonerPride   Apr-18-08 08:37 PM   #53 
        - More wrong than he can begin to realize... ;-)  democrat2thecore   Apr-18-08 08:48 PM   #55 
           - I'm from Oklahoma and, uh, believe me, Boren is, um, well, not a homophobe  SoonerPride   Apr-18-08 09:17 PM   #58 
        - I've never seen one thing from you that indicates you give a shit  cali   Apr-19-08 09:45 AM   #65 
  - He also was/is one of the main proponents of securing loose Soviet nukes  underpants   Apr-18-08 12:03 PM   #17 
  - Or it may come  nichomachus   Apr-18-08 12:05 PM   #19 
     - Okay yes good point  underpants   Apr-18-08 12:08 PM   #22 
        - "DLC types"  BlueDogDemocratNH   Apr-18-08 12:26 PM   #30 
  - Speaking as a Georgia Democrat, I'll take Sam Nunn over Chambliss & Isakson any day.  CottonBear   Apr-18-08 12:10 PM   #24 
     - Amen, Amen and AMEN -nt  democrat2thecore   Apr-18-08 08:49 PM   #56 
  - K & R  Scurrilous   Apr-18-08 01:06 PM   #36 
  - As I said in an earlier post  reflection   Apr-18-08 01:18 PM   #38 
  - KICK!!!!  ScarletSniper   Apr-18-08 02:13 PM   #41 
  - Endorsements haven't made a damn bit of difference, and these won't either.  Carrieyazel   Apr-18-08 02:18 PM   #42 
  - VERY interesting  Inuca   Apr-18-08 03:16 PM   #43 
  - knr  ORDem   Apr-18-08 05:30 PM   #44 
  - TERRIFIC!!!  Raine   Apr-18-08 06:03 PM   #46 
  - Huge endorsements for natl. security creds. This will move some superdelegates  democrat2thecore   Apr-18-08 08:27 PM   #50 
  - Yeah...  WillyT   Apr-18-08 08:30 PM   #51 
  - I remember nasty comments on Nunn on DU  question everything   Apr-18-08 08:35 PM   #52 
  - He's tough on national security - Clinton would have LOVED both of those endorsements -nt  democrat2thecore   Apr-18-08 08:47 PM   #54 
  - But that's soooo 2004  lastliberalintexas   Apr-19-08 10:13 AM   #68 
     - Agree. It soes not reflect poorly on Obama  question everything   Apr-19-08 12:02 PM   #72 
  - The Atlantic Magazine's take on the endorsements (link inside)  democrat2thecore   Apr-18-08 10:49 PM   #60 
  - Mark Ambinder Does Not Represent the Atlantic  OneDemsConscience   Apr-19-08 10:04 AM   #66 
  - Nunn's for Obama?  ulysses   Apr-19-08 11:47 AM   #71 

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