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Response to Reply #105 |
| 149. NAFTA certainly did... |
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Is their any other policy that has done as much damage to our country?
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| -Krugman took Obama to school. Wow! |
kerrybama08 |
Apr-18-08 11:14 AM |
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The Dem PARTY has acknowledged Obama's statement as fact for the last two decades. |
blm |
Apr-18-08 11:18 AM |
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I recall no such Dem PARTY position - indeed the opposite is the party position - Obama lied |
papau |
Apr-18-08 11:22 AM |
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Dem lawmakers have recognized that the GOP uses demagogued issues to betray working class for |
blm |
Apr-18-08 11:52 AM |
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I have indeed noted voting against economic interests - but is Obama correct that Clinton sucked? NO |
papau |
Apr-18-08 02:50 PM |
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The economy would be a million times better today if BCCI matters hadn't been deep-sixed by Clinton. |
blm |
Apr-18-08 03:48 PM |
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"sucked"... perhaps not. But Clinton policies *were* a coninuation of Conservative policies ... |
krkaufman |
Apr-19-08 02:12 PM |
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NAFTA certainly did... |
stillcool47 |
Apr-19-08 02:23 PM |
#149 |
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Obama deceived by attacking the Clinton economy |
JoFerret |
Apr-18-08 02:27 PM |
#102 |
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When Krugman supported Dean he had no problem with "God, Guns, Gays". Krugman went LOOKING |
cryingshame |
Apr-18-08 11:36 AM |
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What does that have to do with health care reform? |
OzarkDem |
Apr-18-08 01:26 PM |
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The problem is deciding when he was wrong. |
igil |
Apr-18-08 03:16 PM |
#115 |
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Like mothers cling to their children... |
kentuck |
Apr-18-08 11:19 AM |
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I disagree |
Two Americas |
Apr-18-08 03:15 PM |
#114 |
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K & R! Welcome to DU. |
AX10 |
Apr-18-08 11:20 AM |
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And Robert Reich will endorse Obama this afternoon. NT |
NYCGirl |
Apr-18-08 11:20 AM |
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Reich endorsed obama months ago. It was in all the news. |
juajen |
Apr-18-08 11:38 AM |
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It's like those people who get saved all over again every time |
QC |
Apr-18-08 11:42 AM |
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Clintons did the same with a Kathleen Kennedy redux - after Ted endorsed Obama. |
blm |
Apr-18-08 12:09 PM |
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then why did Reich say he did not endorse anyone until today??? |
LSK |
Apr-18-08 04:21 PM |
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He preferred his health plan... |
stillcool47 |
Apr-19-08 03:22 PM |
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I'll take Reich over Krugman anyday!! n/t |
tokenlib |
Apr-18-08 11:20 AM |
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Obama doesn't like Reich? |
OzarkDem |
Apr-18-08 01:29 PM |
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They are both excellent economists |
JoFerret |
Apr-19-08 01:25 PM |
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Good article. I have one comment though - Bill Clinton's economy benefitted greatly from |
cyberpj |
Apr-18-08 11:21 AM |
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Not only did Clinton-era economy boom from Tech Bubble, the Nafta/Glass-Steagall repeal |
cryingshame |
Apr-18-08 11:31 AM |
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Bingo! |
kentuck |
Apr-18-08 01:10 PM |
#69 |
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True. Clinton's greatest move then... |
damonm |
Apr-18-08 03:53 PM |
#122 |
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"blurring the distinction between Clinton-era prosperity and Bush-era economic distress"... |
BlooInBloo |
Apr-18-08 11:22 AM |
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Obama wants GOP love - as his campaign says - his current statements are just for the campaign |
papau |
Apr-18-08 11:23 AM |
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lol - um, no. He's running against Clinton in the primary is all... |
BlooInBloo |
Apr-18-08 11:24 AM |
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Sorry, but Clinton repealed Glass-Steagall, signed Nafta and empowered China. It's time |
cryingshame |
Apr-18-08 11:37 AM |
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Glass-Steagall was "repealed" via waivers that began under Reagan - and it was |
papau |
Apr-18-08 11:46 AM |
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NAFTA was passed during GHWB's term. Bill had nothing to do |
juajen |
Apr-18-08 11:48 AM |
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Do you expect anyone to pay attention to what you just said? |
LisaM |
Apr-18-08 12:16 PM |
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Considering how wrong it is? No. |
redqueen |
Apr-18-08 12:35 PM |
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Apr-18-08 12:35 PM |
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and after intense White House lobbying |
hfojvt |
Apr-18-08 02:55 PM |
#107 |
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Not to mention the objections of Dems in both houses of Congress. |
redqueen |
Apr-18-08 02:57 PM |
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HAHAH...then WHY did Bill set up a War Room for NAFTA if he didn't wage a battle to pass it? |
blm |
Apr-18-08 01:03 PM |
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Congress had to pass NAFTA |
OzarkDem |
Apr-18-08 01:34 PM |
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Wiki supports what you said: |
spooky3 |
Apr-18-08 08:51 PM |
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not true... |
stillcool47 |
Apr-19-08 02:33 PM |
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Stupid.... |
stillcool47 |
Apr-19-08 02:28 PM |
#150 |
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Nixon empowered China |
OzarkDem |
Apr-18-08 01:31 PM |
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When did Obama do that? |
Radical Activist |
Apr-18-08 11:42 AM |
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You didn't hear how he just gushed over the Gulf War? |
LisaM |
Apr-18-08 12:41 PM |
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The gulf war? The claim was about the economy. |
Radical Activist |
Apr-18-08 01:32 PM |
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"Reagan good/Clinton bad" is just part of Obama's "bring us together" strategy. |
oasis |
Apr-18-08 09:40 PM |
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Oh, so an Op-Ed columnist has an opinion -- I'll alert the media. |
AtomicKitten |
Apr-18-08 11:22 AM |
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kerrybama08,??? is this post in support of Obama? |
The Wielding Truth |
Apr-18-08 11:25 AM |
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would knowing the distinction affect what you would say? |
Mezzo |
Apr-18-08 01:09 PM |
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I'm so confused....lol |
golddigger |
Apr-18-08 03:42 PM |
#117 |
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To me the article seems so bias against Obama, but the name |
The Wielding Truth |
Apr-19-08 01:51 PM |
#145 |
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I always enjoy reading Paul Krugman...however |
DAGDA56 |
Apr-18-08 11:26 AM |
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I'm confused and maybe you can help me out. |
merh |
Apr-18-08 12:21 PM |
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A substantive response to that from William Greider in 2000 |
Armstead |
Apr-18-08 11:26 AM |
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Krugman apparently doesn't know what a Wedge Issue is. Funny, he didn't mind Dean saying God Guns |
cryingshame |
Apr-18-08 11:28 AM |
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He didn't endorse Howard Dean |
dsc |
Apr-18-08 11:37 AM |
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He wrote quite a few columns making it plain he preferred Dean. Just as he has written quite a few |
cryingshame |
Apr-18-08 11:43 AM |
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Krugman has been "taking Obama to school" for months now, but |
Freddie Stubbs |
Apr-18-08 11:28 AM |
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not as of today |
grasswire |
Apr-18-08 11:41 AM |
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I'm talking about the numbers that matter, delegates |
Freddie Stubbs |
Apr-18-08 12:57 PM |
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Krugman has been shilling for Clinton |
hfojvt |
Apr-18-08 12:23 PM |
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It's so obvious. He's getting increasingly petulant. |
thecatburgler |
Apr-18-08 01:19 PM |
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Krugman's column today is a keeper |
Jim4Wes |
Apr-18-08 11:29 AM |
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Why? Krugman seems totally ignorant of Wedge Issues. Just because your girl is too fucking stupidc |
cryingshame |
Apr-18-08 11:40 AM |
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If you disagree with the research in the article |
Jim4Wes |
Apr-18-08 12:21 PM |
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Why did Krugman fail to mention the growing disparity between the rich and poor in the 90s? |
thecatburgler |
Apr-18-08 01:20 PM |
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may I humbly suggest posts #53 and #84? |
hfojvt |
Apr-18-08 01:54 PM |
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I'm sure things are much worse now.... |
stillcool47 |
Apr-19-08 03:31 PM |
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Apr-18-08 11:30 AM |
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Krugman is either just shilling for HRC or an idiot or both |
DefenseLawyer |
Apr-18-08 11:31 AM |
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I think people understand full well how Obama covered himself |
DemGa |
Apr-18-08 11:33 AM |
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No, I think Hillary supporters want to win at any cost |
DefenseLawyer |
Apr-18-08 11:37 AM |
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Remember the flag lapel pin question? |
Zodiak Ironfist |
Apr-18-08 04:23 PM |
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Obama had to lie his ass off on this one |
DemGa |
Apr-18-08 11:31 AM |
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Condemning... |
americanstranger |
Apr-18-08 11:40 AM |
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It says a lot about Obama |
OzarkDem |
Apr-18-08 02:13 PM |
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Capital flooded the market due to low interest rates. Just like capital flooded the |
Skwmom |
Apr-18-08 11:36 AM |
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Welcome to DU |
thevoiceofreason |
Apr-18-08 11:39 AM |
#29 |
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Krugman is stetching the truth and is out of touch with the real world in rural America. |
Radical Activist |
Apr-18-08 11:40 AM |
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Well done. |
redqueen |
Apr-18-08 11:42 AM |
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I predict: Krugman on Reich.... |
americanstranger |
Apr-18-08 11:48 AM |
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Reich was responsible |
OzarkDem |
Apr-18-08 02:15 PM |
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Reich also disagreed with Clinton over many policies. |
Radical Activist |
Apr-18-08 02:26 PM |
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what would that have to do... |
stillcool47 |
Apr-19-08 03:26 PM |
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you made my point- chicago |
mopinko |
Apr-18-08 11:48 AM |
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Krugman is really playing into the clueless east coast ivory tower elitist stereotype. |
Radical Activist |
Apr-18-08 01:48 PM |
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I live in the rural northwest and I find his comments to be on the money. |
lumberjack_jeff |
Apr-18-08 01:16 PM |
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The Northwest isn't the Midwest |
Radical Activist |
Apr-18-08 01:47 PM |
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Indeed it is not. The midwest is now home to Boeing. n/t |
lumberjack_jeff |
Apr-18-08 02:04 PM |
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Yes, in Chicago. Is Chicago rural to you? You make my point for me. |
Radical Activist |
Apr-18-08 02:24 PM |
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NAFTA and China MFN have made thousands of jobs leave the US |
zulchzulu |
Apr-18-08 11:46 AM |
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As usual, total bullshit! |
juajen |
Apr-18-08 12:12 PM |
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Like you'd know? |
redqueen |
Apr-18-08 12:36 PM |
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How can you possibly say that? |
stillcool47 |
Apr-19-08 03:28 PM |
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He was originally hired at the NY Times |
hfojvt |
Apr-18-08 12:21 PM |
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Obama has made many anti-Clinton adminstration comments |
LisaM |
Apr-18-08 11:54 AM |
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Why in the world should she be allowed to take credit? |
americanstranger |
Apr-18-08 11:57 AM |
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Then she likewise shouldn't be blamed for anything |
LisaM |
Apr-18-08 11:59 AM |
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I think it was fair to point that out. |
americanstranger |
Apr-18-08 12:17 PM |
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The one thing I think she was NOT involved in at all was the pardons |
LisaM |
Apr-18-08 12:25 PM |
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I didn't mean to imply that I thought she did. |
americanstranger |
Apr-18-08 01:21 PM |
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Then she should stop running on her husband's record |
thecatburgler |
Apr-18-08 01:22 PM |
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Krugman is an elitist. nt |
thereismore |
Apr-18-08 11:56 AM |
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Selective statistics. |
Orsino |
Apr-18-08 12:02 PM |
#48 |
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Krugman maybe still hopes to be in a Clinton administration |
hfojvt |
Apr-18-08 12:17 PM |
#53 |
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You seem to be disputing some other article. nt |
Jim4Wes |
Apr-18-08 02:29 PM |
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Criticizing Krugman for intellectual dishonesty? |
lumberjack_jeff |
Apr-18-08 02:55 PM |
#108 |
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because Obama said "in the last 25 years" |
hfojvt |
Apr-18-08 03:33 PM |
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Yes, that's what he said. It is apparent he sees little to recommend the Democrat of that timeframe. |
lumberjack_jeff |
Apr-18-08 03:50 PM |
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the last 25 years includes 17 years of Republican administrations |
hfojvt |
Apr-18-08 04:12 PM |
#124 |
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Krugman is good, but he isn't always right |
nichomachus |
Apr-18-08 12:19 PM |
#54 |
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He's using averages for the entire nation, not small towns. |
anonymous171 |
Apr-18-08 12:36 PM |
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That was excellent. Krugman is brilliant. |
lumberjack_jeff |
Apr-18-08 01:06 PM |
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except that he has been debunked economically in this thread |
hfojvt |
Apr-18-08 01:50 PM |
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Debunked by DU. Well never mind then. n/t |
lumberjack_jeff |
Apr-18-08 02:00 PM |
#92 |
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That's not much of an answer to my post #53 or others |
hfojvt |
Apr-18-08 02:22 PM |
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One need not rely on an alphabet soup to get his main point. |
lumberjack_jeff |
Apr-18-08 02:58 PM |
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Sorry, I think that you are building a strawman, as did Krugman, who |
haymakeragain |
Apr-18-08 03:10 PM |
#111 |
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I might look up some statistics for the "most of our lifetimes" claim |
hfojvt |
Apr-18-08 03:51 PM |
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I don't wear rose colored glasses either. |
lumberjack_jeff |
Apr-18-08 04:09 PM |
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Of course Dr. Paul "I Heart Outsourcing" Krugman is going to defend the 90s. |
thecatburgler |
Apr-18-08 01:08 PM |
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This isn't the first time he's |
zidzi |
Apr-18-08 01:23 PM |
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Apr-18-08 01:18 PM |
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there does seem to be alot of truth to that |
hfojvt |
Apr-18-08 01:45 PM |
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I happen to think that Clinton with all his foibles will be known |
midnight |
Apr-18-08 01:22 PM |
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Thank you and Thanks to Krugman |
OzarkDem |
Apr-18-08 01:24 PM |
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it is Krugman who is playing with facts |
hfojvt |
Apr-18-08 02:51 PM |
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Here are some interesting figures too... |
Terran |
Apr-18-08 01:47 PM |
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Krugman thinks factory workers can somehow become computer programmers overnight. |
anonymous171 |
Apr-18-08 01:48 PM |
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No, but he gives them credit |
OzarkDem |
Apr-18-08 02:10 PM |
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From the same man that said "NAFTA will have no effect |
bicentennial_baby |
Apr-18-08 01:49 PM |
#89 |
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Krugman espoused the virtues of NAFTA as well. Look how well that turned out. |
Major Hogwash |
Apr-18-08 02:15 PM |
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ObamaPWNT K&R |
Texas Hill Country |
Apr-18-08 02:16 PM |
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Not hardly. |
haymakeragain |
Apr-18-08 03:12 PM |
#112 |
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his arguments are sound and undermine Obama on every point... sorry. and he deserves a post. |
Texas Hill Country |
Apr-18-08 03:43 PM |
#118 |
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It is idiotic for a party to slam its own great record, and allow a candidate to do so. |
LulaMay |
Apr-18-08 02:34 PM |
#104 |
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I'll say it again for the hard of hearing, |
haymakeragain |
Apr-18-08 03:15 PM |
#113 |
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"like a lot of towns in the midwest...." what was that? |
Texas Hill Country |
Apr-18-08 04:16 PM |
#126 |
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we have`t just lost jobs--we have lost our future! |
madrchsod |
Apr-18-08 04:19 PM |
#128 |
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krugman do`t have a fucking clue |
madrchsod |
Apr-18-08 04:15 PM |
#125 |
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yeah, the world famous Princeton economist doesnt know shit... youre right... |
Texas Hill Country |
Apr-18-08 06:26 PM |
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Just another elitist whose out of touch with the common man's plight. |
anonymous171 |
Apr-19-08 01:52 PM |
#146 |
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the 90s dot-com boom was in CALIFORNIA, CHICAGO AND NEW YORK |
LSK |
Apr-18-08 04:18 PM |
#127 |
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remember it depended where one lived in those cities |
madrchsod |
Apr-18-08 04:27 PM |
#131 |
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Clinton gave us the best economy in the generation. St. Obama is unlikely to come close to that |
jackson_dem |
Apr-18-08 06:00 PM |
#132 |
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Krugman should visit my 'hood |
TML |
Apr-18-08 08:25 PM |
#134 |
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obamer's a decent inspirational speaker |
Algorem |
Apr-18-08 08:40 PM |
#135 |
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Gene Lyons echoed Krugman..check out this weeks column.. |
jbm |
Apr-18-08 09:22 PM |
#137 |
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great link. we're gonna be so screwed in November! |
uncertainty1999 |
Apr-18-08 09:35 PM |
#138 |
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One word, Paul.... NAFTA n/t |
krkaufman |
Apr-19-08 03:08 AM |
#140 |
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Interesting how he left that out....huh? LOL His love for Hillary is |
whutgives |
Apr-19-08 11:24 AM |
#143 |
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Well, I'm not sure Krugman views NAFTA unfavorably. n/t |
krkaufman |
Apr-19-08 02:07 PM |
#147 |
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Except that antipathy about trade policy was one of those things that people were clinging to |
depakid |
Apr-19-08 03:32 PM |
#159 |
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No, because a rational person wouldn't be distorting what he said ... |
krkaufman |
Apr-20-08 01:21 AM |
#160 |
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Obama doing the only thing he does well: smearing other Dems and the whole party |
Tactical Progressive |
Apr-19-08 04:20 AM |
#141 |
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bullshit. |
stillcool47 |
Apr-19-08 03:24 PM |
#153 |
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Another thing, gun ownership goes UP with INCOME. Po folk can't afford them. |
McCamy Taylor |
Apr-19-08 04:31 AM |
#142 |
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Calling out Paul Krugman on his BS |
ProSense |
Apr-19-08 03:28 PM |
#156 |
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Linking to bullshit thread |
QC |
Apr-19-08 03:32 PM |
#158 |
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