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Fri Apr-18-08 03:13 PM
Response to Reply #130 |
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Edited on Fri Apr-18-08 03:13 PM by redqueen
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| -"an attack on Israel would trigger massive retaliation" |
redqueen |
Apr-18-08 10:46 AM |
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ATTN; Rug |
SoFlaJet |
Apr-18-08 10:48 AM |
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Hahahaha... |
redqueen |
Apr-18-08 10:49 AM |
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That was not your quote. Nice try. |
rug |
Apr-18-08 10:51 AM |
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ostrich much? |
elmerdem |
Apr-18-08 11:02 AM |
#23 |
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... |
redqueen |
Apr-18-08 11:05 AM |
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thnk much? |
rug |
Apr-18-08 11:13 AM |
#31 |
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Oh, we seem to be thinking far more than you are. |
redqueen |
Apr-18-08 11:14 AM |
#33 |
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Answer #41. |
rug |
Apr-18-08 11:19 AM |
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Answer #s 42, 60, 72. |
Occam Bandage |
Apr-18-08 11:50 AM |
#68 |
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Deterrance. We had the same policy toward the USSR for half a century |
jackson_dem |
Apr-19-08 04:28 AM |
#133 |
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deterrence?? |
LooseWilly |
Apr-19-08 04:36 AM |
#137 |
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Iran has a history and it isn't one of sending flowers to other countries |
jackson_dem |
Apr-19-08 06:20 AM |
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Deterrence is also completely and utterly worthless when one considers Iran's history. |
Occam Bandage |
Apr-19-08 11:03 AM |
#143 |
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You supported the Mutually Assured Destruction? Another conservative RW Dem for Hillary |
Leopolds Ghost |
Apr-21-08 12:17 PM |
#148 |
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Deleted sub-thread |
Name removed |
Apr-18-08 10:49 AM |
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"but so would an attack on those countries that are willing to go under this security umbrella and |
rug |
Apr-18-08 10:50 AM |
#4 |
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Uh... exactly! She's talking about expanding NATO |
redqueen |
Apr-18-08 10:51 AM |
#6 |
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No, that's not what she's saying. Read about the Baghdad Pact. |
rug |
Apr-18-08 10:53 AM |
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Camouflage? |
redqueen |
Apr-18-08 10:55 AM |
#11 |
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Given I don't argue with smileys, leave emoticon.com and read some history. |
rug |
Apr-18-08 10:59 AM |
#18 |
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Aw what a pathetic strawman... did I ask you to "argue with smileys"? |
redqueen |
Apr-18-08 11:00 AM |
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You should put that word in context. |
rug |
Apr-18-08 11:08 AM |
#28 |
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Oh I am! |
redqueen |
Apr-18-08 11:10 AM |
#29 |
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You haven't described her plan other than calling it batshit. |
rug |
Apr-18-08 11:16 AM |
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She described her plan above. |
redqueen |
Apr-18-08 11:19 AM |
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I did. |
rug |
Apr-18-08 11:22 AM |
#44 |
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Yes, and that makes it even crazier. |
redqueen |
Apr-18-08 11:24 AM |
#46 |
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Clinton is not the candidate of panacea. Don't you think the region can be stabilized? |
rug |
Apr-18-08 11:26 AM |
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Not anytime soon... no. |
redqueen |
Apr-18-08 11:28 AM |
#53 |
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One region at a time. I'm hopeful. |
rug |
Apr-18-08 11:32 AM |
#59 |
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I'm hopeful, too. |
redqueen |
Apr-18-08 11:33 AM |
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So what do you suggest that we DO in response to an attack on Israel? |
dbaker41 |
Apr-18-08 01:22 PM |
#104 |
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It's vastly different. (nt) |
redqueen |
Apr-18-08 01:28 PM |
#105 |
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That's not what I asked. |
dbaker41 |
Apr-18-08 02:43 PM |
#119 |
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Take appropriate action. |
redqueen |
Apr-18-08 02:45 PM |
#121 |
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Are you trying to be intentionally vague? |
dbaker41 |
Apr-18-08 03:00 PM |
#125 |
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Are you seriously telling me... |
redqueen |
Apr-18-08 03:03 PM |
#127 |
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I'm pretty sure that what's happened here |
Occam Bandage |
Apr-18-08 03:10 PM |
#130 |
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Perhaps... |
redqueen |
Apr-18-08 03:13 PM |
#131 |
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This goes beyond Israel and touches in the issue of nuke proliferation |
jackson_dem |
Apr-19-08 04:32 AM |
#135 |
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Iran is not going to launch a conventional attack against a small Gulf state. |
Occam Bandage |
Apr-19-08 11:05 AM |
#144 |
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"we take out Tehran. That might be a bit of a deterrent." Tehran is a metropolis larger than LA |
Leopolds Ghost |
Apr-21-08 12:23 PM |
#149 |
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And I'm saying that a regional security pact in the Middle East |
Occam Bandage |
Apr-18-08 11:29 AM |
#54 |
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I'm glad you now realize her comment was about the ME, not a nuclear retaliation to protect Israel. |
rug |
Apr-18-08 11:31 AM |
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Who said it was only about Israel? |
redqueen |
Apr-18-08 11:32 AM |
#58 |
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Your headline for one. |
rug |
Apr-18-08 01:42 PM |
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That's a snippet. |
redqueen |
Apr-18-08 01:44 PM |
#115 |
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The headline mentions Israel, but by no means limits the problem to Israel. |
Occam Bandage |
Apr-18-08 02:46 PM |
#122 |
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Now? I never claimed that was the problem (see #42). The problem is clearly |
Occam Bandage |
Apr-18-08 11:38 AM |
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You know, rug, you're great at telling us we're not thinking, but you're not so good |
Occam Bandage |
Apr-18-08 11:48 AM |
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Is there a thought here? |
rug |
Apr-18-08 12:22 PM |
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Many. You've yet to reply substantively to any of them. Try replying to 54 or 64. |
Occam Bandage |
Apr-18-08 02:45 PM |
#120 |
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NATO was created for what was then the most unstable region in the world. How'd that work out? |
jackson_dem |
Apr-19-08 04:29 AM |
#134 |
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NATO wasn't implemented while those countries were being torn apart by a civil war. (nt) |
redqueen |
Apr-21-08 11:09 AM |
#146 |
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So she's expanding the responsibility of American force projection to include, potentially, |
Occam Bandage |
Apr-18-08 11:17 AM |
#36 |
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It's a global authoritarian police state and the U.S. is the police force. |
TahitiNut |
Apr-18-08 10:51 AM |
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She's just outed herself as being more of an imperalist than BUSH! |
redqueen |
Apr-18-08 10:54 AM |
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Agreed. It's her new club called the DLR ight. n/t |
L0oniX |
Apr-18-08 10:58 AM |
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She's taking us from M.A.D. (mutual assured destruction) to I.U.D. ... |
TahitiNut |
Apr-18-08 11:02 AM |
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Which threats does Clinton see that Obama doesn't? |
jackson_dem |
Apr-19-08 04:34 AM |
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Batshit insane is exactly right... |
CK dexter |
Apr-18-08 10:52 AM |
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Ah no... it's completely predictable that the M$M is ignoring it. |
redqueen |
Apr-18-08 10:56 AM |
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If she was ever going to get closer to the White House than the group tour, I'd be worried. nt |
billyoc |
Apr-18-08 10:57 AM |
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... |
redqueen |
Apr-18-08 10:58 AM |
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LMFAO |
L0oniX |
Apr-18-08 11:00 AM |
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wouldn't she be invited back for "first lady" reunions? |
merh |
Apr-18-08 11:14 AM |
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Interesting Question -- What wold she have done two years ago? |
Armstead |
Apr-18-08 10:57 AM |
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Yup! |
redqueen |
Apr-18-08 10:59 AM |
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How many NIE's is she going to ignore? |
SOS |
Apr-18-08 10:58 AM |
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Ah it's all right... she'll just ask Condi for her notes. |
redqueen |
Apr-18-08 11:01 AM |
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exactly! |
elmerdem |
Apr-18-08 11:07 AM |
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yup she's right there with her hero |
SoFlaJet |
Apr-18-08 11:19 AM |
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I'm trying to find this Maddow on Olbermann video |
crankychatter |
Apr-18-08 11:07 AM |
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Here it is! |
redqueen |
Apr-18-08 11:12 AM |
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edit and stick that up top.... great assessment IMHO |
crankychatter |
Apr-18-08 11:18 AM |
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there's a different Vid where it's just Rachel |
crankychatter |
Apr-18-08 11:26 AM |
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That must have been last night... |
redqueen |
Apr-18-08 11:37 AM |
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I get the feeling that you guys aren't reading too well... |
hayu_lol |
Apr-18-08 11:19 AM |
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My username is based on the theory... |
redqueen |
Apr-18-08 11:22 AM |
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did ignored call you a pinko? |
crankychatter |
Apr-18-08 11:25 AM |
#49 |
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Hahahahahahaha... no... |
redqueen |
Apr-18-08 11:27 AM |
#52 |
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And what would an attack BY Israel trigger? |
kentuck |
Apr-18-08 11:14 AM |
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Bupkis - the US doesn't even mind them having nukes. |
Lilith Velkor |
Apr-18-08 12:54 PM |
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US would attack the country Israel unilaterally invaded n/t |
Leopolds Ghost |
Apr-21-08 12:28 PM |
#150 |
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ONE WORD: |
DerekJ |
Apr-18-08 11:21 AM |
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Are they this crazy? |
redqueen |
Apr-18-08 11:25 AM |
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That one word rules a lot of Hillary's opinions. |
donheld |
Apr-18-08 01:07 PM |
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Specifics please Senator Clinton! |
SOS |
Apr-18-08 11:22 AM |
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Wouldn't it be nice if it were a non-whore of a host that night? |
redqueen |
Apr-18-08 11:29 AM |
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Rachel Maddow was talking about this with Keith Oberman last night |
Blue_Roses |
Apr-18-08 11:24 AM |
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Neo-con = Neo-lib |
redqueen |
Apr-18-08 11:32 AM |
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This is absolutely horrifying. |
bunnies |
Apr-18-08 11:32 AM |
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Well of the two candidates on our side... she's the more hawkish, that's for sure. |
redqueen |
Apr-18-08 11:35 AM |
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How about Obama advocating bombing Iran when basically only he and Lieberman were for it? |
jackson_dem |
Apr-19-08 04:37 AM |
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put the crack pipe down |
LooseWilly |
Apr-19-08 05:01 AM |
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Because I listened to him before he became the messiah |
jackson_dem |
Apr-19-08 06:10 AM |
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Because I listened to him before he became the messiah |
jackson_dem |
Apr-19-08 06:10 AM |
#141 |
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I stand corrected... |
LooseWilly |
Apr-22-08 08:26 PM |
#154 |
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This is fucking nuts. We should have cut Isreal off years ago. Let them fight their own battles. |
Independent-Voter |
Apr-18-08 11:43 AM |
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KICK KICK KICK |
crispini |
Apr-18-08 11:49 AM |
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... |
redqueen |
Apr-18-08 11:58 AM |
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Obama's threat to attack Iran - from the transcript -kick your little hearts out over this |
cornermouse |
Apr-18-08 11:50 AM |
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And claiming a proportional response to an Iranian attack on Israel has been US policy for decades. |
Occam Bandage |
Apr-18-08 11:53 AM |
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Obama basically said the same thing Hillary did. |
cornermouse |
Apr-18-08 11:56 AM |
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That is only "basically" the same thing inasmuch as it involves weapons and Iran. |
Occam Bandage |
Apr-18-08 02:48 PM |
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"Take appropriate action" > "Trigger massive retaliation" |
redqueen |
Apr-18-08 11:55 AM |
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See above. |
cornermouse |
Apr-18-08 11:57 AM |
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Sorry but no... far from it. |
redqueen |
Apr-18-08 11:57 AM |
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The threat that Obama made that we're all supposed to pretend is finesse instead. |
cornermouse |
Apr-18-08 12:03 PM |
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Again... his answers are measured. |
redqueen |
Apr-18-08 12:09 PM |
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lol. Yeah right. |
cornermouse |
Apr-18-08 12:23 PM |
#87 |
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Your failure to understand is not Barack Obama's failing. |
Occam Bandage |
Apr-18-08 02:49 PM |
#124 |
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but, but I thought she was |
merh |
Apr-18-08 11:51 AM |
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Hahahahaha... |
redqueen |
Apr-18-08 11:55 AM |
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. |
merh |
Apr-18-08 12:04 PM |
#80 |
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We don't really discuss the role and importance of lobbyist around here |
underpants |
Apr-18-08 11:58 AM |
#78 |
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Yup. |
redqueen |
Apr-18-08 12:12 PM |
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What was her "massive retailiation" to Israel's attack on Lebanon? |
Tierra_y_Libertad |
Apr-18-08 12:05 PM |
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You mean, she was CIC back then? |
Lilith Velkor |
Apr-18-08 12:52 PM |
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No. She was a Senator, and one with a very high profile. |
Occam Bandage |
Apr-18-08 03:02 PM |
#126 |
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You'd think a 60 year old would have a better memory of how WWI got needlessly started. |
kwenu |
Apr-18-08 12:06 PM |
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Maybe it's just reckless, poorly-thought-out "tough gal" pandering... |
redqueen |
Apr-18-08 12:18 PM |
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In Other News: Water Wet |
Lilith Velkor |
Apr-18-08 12:25 PM |
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It's sad that the defenses of this "plan" of hers are so pathetic. |
redqueen |
Apr-18-08 12:26 PM |
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Next thing y'all will expect her to speak out against the Drug War |
Lilith Velkor |
Apr-18-08 01:03 PM |
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What are you talking about? |
redqueen |
Apr-18-08 01:06 PM |
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Deleted message |
Name removed |
Apr-18-08 03:05 PM |
#129 |
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What Drug War? Explain what you're talkimg about. |
Leopolds Ghost |
Apr-21-08 12:35 PM |
#151 |
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Stephanopoulos repeated Bush Meme of Iran's Nuclear Ambitions |
crankychatter |
Apr-18-08 12:41 PM |
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Argh. |
redqueen |
Apr-18-08 12:47 PM |
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I want to be wrong |
crankychatter |
Apr-18-08 01:01 PM |
#94 |
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Yeah... the PNAC agenda laid it all out for anyone to see, if they care to do so. |
redqueen |
Apr-18-08 01:07 PM |
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Baffling. When was this treaty obligation ever submitted to the Senate and ratified? |
kenny blankenship |
Apr-18-08 01:05 PM |
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Thanks for posting |
bigbrother05 |
Apr-18-08 01:08 PM |
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Iran Iran Iran..no wonder the mediawhores want |
zidzi |
Apr-18-08 01:09 PM |
#101 |
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You're a war monger, you are setting up the conditions for an attack on Iran. |
2rth2pwr |
Apr-18-08 01:13 PM |
#102 |
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You're out of your mind. (nt) |
redqueen |
Apr-18-08 01:30 PM |
#106 |
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You are setting it up so that no matter which country they make a move |
2rth2pwr |
Apr-18-08 01:32 PM |
#108 |
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I'm a fucking office admin. |
redqueen |
Apr-18-08 01:33 PM |
#109 |
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Oh, that helps clear up a lot of things. Thanks. |
2rth2pwr |
Apr-18-08 01:41 PM |
#111 |
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Nice. |
redqueen |
Apr-18-08 01:44 PM |
#114 |
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Such as what? |
Occam Bandage |
Apr-18-08 03:17 PM |
#132 |
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Get back to work. |
rug |
Apr-18-08 01:43 PM |
#113 |
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I'm working now. |
redqueen |
Apr-18-08 01:45 PM |
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It's probably not getting any coverage because... |
Hardhead |
Apr-18-08 01:21 PM |
#103 |
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They're making plans to cause a major confrontation over MI and FL... |
redqueen |
Apr-18-08 01:32 PM |
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these two issues converge... everyone is so distracted with petty bullshit |
crankychatter |
Apr-18-08 02:31 PM |
#118 |
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Didn't Obama Say A Iranian Nuclear Attack On Israel Would Be Met By American Force |
DemocratSinceBirth |
Apr-18-08 01:36 PM |
#110 |
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I dont hear you talk about turning Jews into glass...how come its OK to talk about Muslims to glass? |
Leopolds Ghost |
Apr-21-08 12:39 PM |
#152 |
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It's this type of thinking that kept me from supporting Clinton in the primary |
Lone_Star_Dem |
Apr-18-08 02:00 PM |
#117 |
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Yep, an attack on Israel would incite massive retaliation; how massive has yet to be... |
bridgit |
Apr-18-08 03:05 PM |
#128 |
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In other words, Israel has been attacked by rockets numerous times, and all this bluff is horseshit |
Leopolds Ghost |
Apr-21-08 12:41 PM |
#153 |
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Never show your Poker hand while you are sitting at the table. To me, this was the worst gaff of |
IsItJustMe |
Apr-19-08 11:09 AM |
#145 |
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Oh it's been noticed. |
redqueen |
Apr-21-08 11:11 AM |
#147 |
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