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Fri Apr-18-08 11:52 AM
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| 102. No, you pay attention: Ayers wasn't convicted of anything. This is America. Focus on this: |
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Bill Clinton pardoned convicted felons: That referred to commutations by Mr. Clinton in January 2001, shortly before leaving office, for Linda Evans and Susan Rosenberg. Ms. Evans had been convicted of weapons and explosives charges connected with eight bombings in the mid-’80s and sentenced to 40 years in prison. Ms. Rosenberg had been charged in connection with a 1981 armed robbery in which two police officers and a security guard were killed, and was serving 58 years after being convicted of weapons charges in a 1984 case. Convicted felons who were "unrepentant." Wolfson also said that "Bill Ayers is unrepentant of what he did…and that is a difference, of course, between Linda Evans and Susan Rosenberg."
But when Evans was released after Bill Clinton pardoned her, she told the Austin American-Statesman, "I'm not repentant. That's for sure. I wouldn't go about it the same (violent) way." But "we still need solutions, and we still need justice just as badly as we ever did." more
Bill wasn't 8 years old when the bombings or the convictions occured, as far as I know.
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| -Obama's relationship with a former terrorist -- how is that NOT a relevant issue? |
Apollo11 |
Apr-18-08 04:04 AM |
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Sounds like Bush's excuses. |
mac2 |
Apr-18-08 04:08 AM |
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I think this man is now a teacher. |
izzie |
Apr-18-08 04:17 AM |
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Yes, he is a English professor at a university. What was Obama, maybe |
EV_Ares |
Apr-18-08 04:46 AM |
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Actually, he's not an English Prof |
cali |
Apr-18-08 04:53 AM |
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Yeah, right, thanks, for some reason was thinking it was english. eom. |
EV_Ares |
Apr-18-08 05:04 AM |
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thats because when Obama was lying about how well they knew eachother, he called him an English prof |
Texas Hill Country |
Apr-18-08 03:38 PM |
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Guess he wasn't as close as you and Hannity thought then was he. eom. |
EV_Ares |
Apr-18-08 06:16 PM |
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In education circles--he is a traditionalist--yes |
rodeodance |
Apr-18-08 08:06 AM |
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What ever he is I am glad the 60's are over. |
izzie |
Apr-19-08 06:38 AM |
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I think this man is now a teacher. |
izzie |
Apr-18-08 04:17 AM |
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I'm sorry......it is a non issue. |
FrenchieCat |
Apr-18-08 04:15 AM |
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Ayers never served time because |
Apollo11 |
Apr-18-08 04:43 AM |
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In this country. If you are ruled not guilty you are not guilty PERIOD |
Zachstar |
Apr-18-08 04:47 AM |
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Why don't you just hand them the stick.....and why don't you hold the stick |
FrenchieCat |
Apr-18-08 04:52 AM |
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McCarthy tactics! |
earthlover |
Apr-18-08 06:07 AM |
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I can make an entry on wikipedia. So can you. Do you eat everything you're fed |
Obama_for_our_future |
Apr-18-08 06:14 AM |
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So the DA trumped up a case against the man, |
Hepburn |
Apr-18-08 07:18 AM |
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What part of innocent UNTILL proven guilty, don't you understand? NT |
mckeown1128 |
Apr-21-08 07:27 AM |
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FC, Ayers doesn't teach English and he's not at U of C |
cali |
Apr-18-08 04:55 AM |
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Cool! Thanks! |
FrenchieCat |
Apr-18-08 04:57 AM |
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thank-you and well said! |
Blue_Roses |
Apr-18-08 10:33 AM |
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Why isn't he in jail? |
DemVet |
Apr-21-08 07:30 AM |
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That is really really quite stupid |
donheld |
Apr-18-08 04:17 AM |
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Please pay attention |
Apollo11 |
Apr-18-08 04:40 AM |
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AND WHO KILLED VINCE FOSTER? |
FrenchieCat |
Apr-18-08 04:42 AM |
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Stop doing their work for them |
JoFerret |
Apr-18-08 05:04 AM |
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Yeah, |
DemVet |
Apr-21-08 07:31 AM |
#124 |
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A RW smear tactic. Congrats. you are one of them now. |
rodeodance |
Apr-21-08 08:20 AM |
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So 40 years after a non-crime was committed, Obama served... |
Hepburn |
Apr-18-08 07:21 AM |
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"noncrime" ? Maybe the victims family's still care? |
GrandmaJones7 |
Apr-18-08 08:44 AM |
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How about killing police officers? Does that matter? |
SOS |
Apr-18-08 10:32 AM |
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You should be going after Daley as well, then |
IAmJacksSmirkingRevenge |
Apr-18-08 08:27 AM |
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Man, I didn't know Ayers was running.... |
Liberal Gramma |
Apr-18-08 11:16 AM |
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No, you pay attention: Ayers wasn't convicted of anything. This is America. Focus on this: |
ProSense |
Apr-18-08 11:52 AM |
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If you go down that road, all political candidates will eventually be eliminated |
Sandi_4_Edwards |
Apr-18-08 04:18 AM |
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Obama's relationship with a university professor with whom he served on a non-profit board, you mean |
Spider Jerusalem |
Apr-18-08 04:18 AM |
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Geeez - so Obama shouldn't work with a charity because a guy |
ecdab |
Apr-18-08 04:20 AM |
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I admire Ayers a great deal |
cali |
Apr-18-08 04:21 AM |
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What about Clinton's friendship with George H. W. Bush whose father tried to overthrow the US? |
melody |
Apr-18-08 04:22 AM |
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Weren't there some Presidents who's father worked with the Nazis? |
FrenchieCat |
Apr-18-08 04:25 AM |
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Oh, that, too -- Prescott Bush was a sociopath of Hitlerian scale ... but right, he was white |
melody |
Apr-18-08 04:31 AM |
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You don't choose your father or your grandfather |
Apollo11 |
Apr-18-08 04:47 AM |
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You choose your fucking husband. |
FrenchieCat |
Apr-18-08 05:02 AM |
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Hillary chose to affiliate herself with the son of an anti-American terrorist |
melody |
Apr-18-08 05:04 AM |
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For Christ's sake, this is totally stupid and it doesn't make any difference what Obama |
EV_Ares |
Apr-18-08 05:23 AM |
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True....but care to point out what Obama did wrong in... |
Hepburn |
Apr-18-08 07:24 AM |
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Um - the one Obama wants to work with? |
JoFerret |
Apr-18-08 07:59 AM |
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Then there's that John Kerry guy |
sandnsea |
Apr-18-08 04:26 AM |
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So, was Monica a relevant issue to ask Chelsea? She got beat up here for not talking about it. |
McCamy Taylor |
Apr-18-08 04:27 AM |
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she was largely defended here by Obama peep. |
cali |
Apr-18-08 04:33 AM |
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Yes |
Zachstar |
Apr-18-08 04:48 AM |
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SO much wrong with that post |
Asgaya Dihi |
Apr-18-08 04:31 AM |
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It was a intended as a comparison |
Apollo11 |
Apr-18-08 04:45 AM |
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Looked to me like it was intended as a smear |
Asgaya Dihi |
Apr-18-08 04:51 AM |
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If you don't know why that is fucked up thinking... |
Hepburn |
Apr-18-08 07:26 AM |
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Why is HIllary in "the Fellowship" then? |
TomClash |
Apr-18-08 04:34 AM |
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See, the problem that I have with all of this is |
FrenchieCat |
Apr-18-08 04:38 AM |
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Bingo!! |
dana_b |
Apr-18-08 10:31 AM |
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Let see... He was not convicted.. So you have posted defamatory content about him. |
Zachstar |
Apr-18-08 04:44 AM |
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In that case - so has the Chicago Tribune |
Apollo11 |
Apr-21-08 06:56 AM |
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You hillary people are unfucking believable |
bowens43 |
Apr-18-08 04:45 AM |
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I second that. eom. |
EV_Ares |
Apr-18-08 04:47 AM |
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Commuting a sentence is not the same as a pardon. |
Apollo11 |
Apr-18-08 04:49 AM |
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What don't you tell us what the difference is. |
FrenchieCat |
Apr-18-08 04:55 AM |
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So you post a defamatory topic then head on out without cleaning it up? |
Zachstar |
Apr-18-08 05:03 AM |
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Hear hear! |
shadowknows69 |
Apr-18-08 05:53 AM |
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Apollo astronauts were terrorists |
ngant17 |
Apr-18-08 04:56 AM |
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Change ? |
Gore Edwards |
Apr-18-08 05:17 AM |
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Deleted sub-thread |
Name removed |
Apr-18-08 05:26 AM |
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stupid and ignorant. Ayers is a respected member of the |
cali |
Apr-18-08 05:33 AM |
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Good Morning Cali, good to see you here. Also, certainly agree |
EV_Ares |
Apr-18-08 06:06 AM |
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stands by his bombings .Is there some part of that you can parse |
Gore Edwards |
Apr-18-08 06:11 AM |
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as I said, go crawl back under your slimy rock |
cali |
Apr-18-08 06:20 AM |
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Do you think before you make your statements? |
noel711 |
Apr-18-08 07:18 AM |
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How old are you, 'Gore Edwards'? |
RichardRay |
Apr-18-08 07:31 AM |
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Flattery will get you nowhere |
Gore Edwards |
Apr-19-08 05:27 AM |
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Then I'll ask again, what were you doing then? |
RichardRay |
Apr-19-08 04:28 PM |
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You Must Run Background Checks On Everyone You Come In |
lligrd |
Apr-18-08 05:26 AM |
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judge away you still lose |
Egnever |
Apr-18-08 05:38 AM |
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What crimes was Ayer convicted of? |
Warren Stupidity |
Apr-18-08 07:07 AM |
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"ARe you now, or have you ever been... a radical..?" |
noel711 |
Apr-18-08 07:11 AM |
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So Hillary should be questioned about her associations with union busters? |
EffieBlack |
Apr-18-08 07:17 AM |
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Non-issue, unless you worship flag pins. |
48percenter |
Apr-18-08 07:19 AM |
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yeah becaus if someone is running for office they have to go |
mckeown1128 |
Apr-18-08 07:20 AM |
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Why Is He Hanging Out With Marc Rich? |
DrFunkenstein |
Apr-18-08 07:22 AM |
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What was Ayers charge? |
NOLALady |
Apr-18-08 07:28 AM |
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Maybe all those extra shovels the Clinton camp ordered for the Iowa caucus |
Old Crusoe |
Apr-18-08 07:32 AM |
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So if Ayres evolved in a way suitable for your sensibilities. . . |
Voltaire |
Apr-18-08 07:32 AM |
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Here is a post that explains a bit about Bill Ayers... Please do read it. |
futureliveshere |
Apr-18-08 08:04 AM |
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I sit on boards with lots of people I don't know |
mainer |
Apr-18-08 08:04 AM |
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The point is that once again Obama tried to dismiss his association-had |
rodeodance |
Apr-18-08 08:09 AM |
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Yeah, and I'd dismiss it too |
mainer |
Apr-18-08 08:21 AM |
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I was saying the Obama could have put it to rest during the debate--nothing more. |
rodeodance |
Apr-18-08 09:46 AM |
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It will be relevant in September. |
susankh4 |
Apr-18-08 08:06 AM |
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The Clintons association with felons - how is that NOT a relevant issue? |
Vinca |
Apr-18-08 08:16 AM |
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Doing the GOPs job for them, I see. |
baldguy |
Apr-18-08 08:24 AM |
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shillbot manual page 74, section D; when given a shovel, keep digging... |
dionysus |
Apr-18-08 08:26 AM |
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Knowing somebody and being on friendly speaking terms is NOT "a relationship" |
scheming daemons |
Apr-18-08 08:27 AM |
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So why did Clinton's husband pardon two of these "terrorists" then? |
truebrit71 |
Apr-18-08 08:29 AM |
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What about Bill Clinton PARDONING two terrorists? |
zulchzulu |
Apr-18-08 08:31 AM |
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Hannity, is that you? |
IsItJustMe |
Apr-18-08 08:34 AM |
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Fact check: Obama, Clinton and the Weather Underground |
1776Forever |
Apr-18-08 10:17 AM |
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When DUers use Hannity's bullshit talking points to attack Democrats |
smoogatz |
Apr-18-08 10:18 AM |
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Hillary/Clinton PARDONED people from the same group!!! |
Triana |
Apr-18-08 10:24 AM |
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WHO deep-sixed all the outstanding matters in BCCI, including the funding of global terrorism |
blm |
Apr-18-08 10:27 AM |
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We should all vet absolutely everyone we meet before we even shake their hand. |
azmouse |
Apr-18-08 10:27 AM |
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Keep talking about this nothing issues. Obama's polls keep rising from it. |
Bensthename |
Apr-18-08 10:29 AM |
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How many environmental activists are now called "Terrorists"? |
redqueen |
Apr-18-08 10:31 AM |
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Oh Noes!!! Obama can't serve on Charity boards that help the diadvantaged |
Kittycat |
Apr-18-08 10:31 AM |
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You don't see Obama or Hillary speaking or marching |
mac2 |
Apr-18-08 11:56 AM |
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It's a relevant question for 2 minutes |
Armstead |
Apr-18-08 10:33 AM |
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8 yrs old yeah he was probably the MASTERMIND! They never suspect the children do they |
kenny blankenship |
Apr-18-08 10:42 AM |
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Democrats aren't allowed to question the Messiah - he'll go down in flames in the general instead |
dpbrown |
Apr-18-08 11:44 AM |
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Not To Worry, I'm Sure McCain Has Sat On Boards With Many |
lligrd |
Apr-18-08 03:36 PM |
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If "the terrorist" is so horrible, why did Bill Clinton pardon his associates? nt |
Vinca |
Apr-18-08 11:45 AM |
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Bobby Rush was a radical in the 60's and he is now a boring Congressman |
undeterred |
Apr-18-08 11:46 AM |
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HILLARYS VOTE CONTRIBUTED TO THE DEATHS OF 4000+ AMERICANS |
goletian |
Apr-18-08 11:54 AM |
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Right... a terrorist group that never killed anybody |
killbotfactory |
Apr-18-08 11:59 AM |
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Not true. People were killed and houses were blown up. |
Apollo11 |
Apr-21-08 07:02 AM |
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"Relationship"? |
stillcool47 |
Apr-18-08 12:21 PM |
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Hillary "kept company" with a child rapist in the '70s, and zealously represented him - defend it. |
apocalypsehow |
Apr-18-08 06:27 PM |
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Would you like ketchup with your fail? |
Jed Dilligan |
Apr-18-08 06:32 PM |
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It's not relevant because nobody gives a flying fuck. |
InfiniteNether |
Apr-18-08 06:34 PM |
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Well, I suppose I'm a terrorist-supporter too then.. |
LeftishBrit |
Apr-19-08 05:47 AM |
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Thanks for all the replies |
Apollo11 |
Apr-21-08 06:54 AM |
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Likewise, Bill Clinton pardoned 2 terrosrists from the same group. |
npincus |
Apr-21-08 07:01 AM |
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I think those 2 had already served time |
Apollo11 |
Apr-21-08 07:07 AM |
#121 |
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