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Tue Apr-15-08 09:35 PM
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| 35. In my opinion, you now OWN this thread! |
| -If you can't vote for HRC because of her war vote, then you sure as fuck can't vote for Obama either |
mtnsnake |
Apr-15-08 09:11 PM |
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K & R! |
AX10 |
Apr-15-08 09:12 PM |
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However, you can vote against her war policy of reduce troops and stay until 2013. |
awaysidetraveler |
Apr-16-08 08:03 PM |
#156 |
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Exactly! |
leftofcool |
Apr-15-08 09:12 PM |
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+1! NTXT. |
GrandmaJones7 |
Apr-15-08 11:12 PM |
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Her vote helped get us there. |
GOPNotForMe |
Apr-15-08 09:12 PM |
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I'm not saying it didn't |
mtnsnake |
Apr-15-08 09:14 PM |
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Hillary has done nothing effective to bring our troops home... |
PoliticalAmazon |
Apr-16-08 12:29 PM |
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and 'his' vote is helping us STAY there! |
BigBearJohn |
Apr-15-08 10:52 PM |
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How dare you say anything against our !next Messiah! Wash your hands immediately |
goldcanyonaz |
Apr-15-08 09:12 PM |
#4 |
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LOL - I think that rule only applies on DU |
papau |
Apr-15-08 09:20 PM |
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And rub your mouth out with soap! |
Auntie Bush |
Apr-15-08 09:25 PM |
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she voted to put them there. he voted to fund this fiasco because they |
roguevalley |
Apr-16-08 12:03 AM |
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"If she hadn't put them there," |
Auntie Bush |
Apr-16-08 05:19 PM |
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She voted to allow Bush to send kids off to die. |
cottonseed |
Apr-15-08 09:13 PM |
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Clinton voted for war. Obama did not. Done.... |
BlooInBloo |
Apr-15-08 09:14 PM |
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No it's not done. "Done" will be when Obama, Hillary, & Co. vote NO to funding this frigging war |
mtnsnake |
Apr-15-08 09:15 PM |
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Uh they already did |
maximusveritas |
Apr-15-08 09:16 PM |
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Obama voted to help pay for the war. That is a vote for war |
jackson_dem |
Apr-15-08 09:51 PM |
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Oh looky! It's Hillaerobics! And Twist! And Twist! Distort! Distort! |
BlooInBloo |
Apr-15-08 09:55 PM |
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How can helping fund something not be a vote to continue that very enterprise? |
jackson_dem |
Apr-15-08 09:57 PM |
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You might have better luck peddling the lie with someone else.... |
BlooInBloo |
Apr-15-08 09:58 PM |
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So you can't explain the inconsistency between Obama's words and actions? |
jackson_dem |
Apr-15-08 10:00 PM |
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Hillary voted for the war AND to help pay for it. That is TWO votes for war. |
Mooney |
Apr-15-08 09:59 PM |
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They know. They're just trying to lie to us. Like candidate, like supporter. |
BlooInBloo |
Apr-15-08 10:00 PM |
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More than two. There have been several votes to keep the war going |
jackson_dem |
Apr-15-08 10:01 PM |
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But she'll always beat him by that one vote. |
Mooney |
Apr-15-08 10:06 PM |
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Of course not. Nobody asked him. |
prodn2000 |
Apr-16-08 12:18 PM |
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These are 2 different issues and you know that |
maximusveritas |
Apr-15-08 09:14 PM |
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Obama, Hillary, & all the Dems could stop this war by not voting to fund it |
mtnsnake |
Apr-15-08 09:20 PM |
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Exactly, mtn (Edwards also came out for defunding but the "anti-war" vote when to Obama) |
jackson_dem |
Apr-15-08 09:52 PM |
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No, they couldn't. |
NCevilDUer |
Apr-15-08 10:25 PM |
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I'll take Dennis Kucinich's word for it any day of the week and twice on sunday. n/t |
mtnsnake |
Apr-15-08 10:33 PM |
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That just shredded my arguement all to hell. |
NCevilDUer |
Apr-16-08 09:15 AM |
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THANK YOU! |
msallied |
Apr-16-08 06:47 PM |
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well, said. mtsnake. |
rodeodance |
Apr-15-08 09:15 PM |
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Hillary abdicated her Constitutionally mandated war-declaring powers to an idiot. |
AtomicKitten |
Apr-15-08 09:16 PM |
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Well-put. |
BlooInBloo |
Apr-15-08 09:18 PM |
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In my opinion, you now OWN this thread! |
dchill |
Apr-15-08 09:35 PM |
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That was wrong, but it wasn't just her. It's also wrong that she & Barack keep voting to enable it |
mtnsnake |
Apr-15-08 09:48 PM |
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So according to your logic |
Mooney |
Apr-15-08 09:57 PM |
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No |
mtnsnake |
Apr-15-08 10:01 PM |
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I don't know anybody whose sole reason for not supporting HRC is her IWR vote. |
Mooney |
Apr-15-08 10:04 PM |
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Maybe not you, but here are more than a few: |
mtnsnake |
Apr-15-08 10:10 PM |
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And what's most galling about her IWR vote is not that she voted for the war |
NotGonnaTakeIt |
Apr-15-08 10:25 PM |
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Apologizing for your vote won't make the war go away. Voting to de-fund the war WILL |
mtnsnake |
Apr-15-08 10:31 PM |
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So Hillary shouldn't apologize, because it won't re-attach lost limbs? |
Mooney |
Apr-15-08 11:48 PM |
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No, the war is here and it is not going to go away. |
NotGonnaTakeIt |
Apr-16-08 09:27 AM |
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Given the choice I don't think I would've done different than Obama. Pulling out of Iraq quickly is |
uponit7771 |
Apr-15-08 09:16 PM |
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Well, then. Good thing that's not why I'm not voting for her, then |
TheDoorbellRang |
Apr-15-08 09:16 PM |
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I prefer someone who didn't vote to authorize it. |
Tribetime |
Apr-15-08 09:19 PM |
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Haha. |
Symarip |
Apr-15-08 09:19 PM |
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100,000th post on the same flawed premise |
meow mix |
Apr-15-08 09:20 PM |
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You are speaking in racial codewords aimed at Obama. |
tritsofme |
Apr-15-08 09:20 PM |
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DK was my guy, and I can't disagree with you on this. |
Zhade |
Apr-15-08 09:20 PM |
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I don't agree she's a liar, but I appreciate that your not voting for her because of other reasons |
mtnsnake |
Apr-15-08 09:23 PM |
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ABSOLUTELY TRUE!!! |
Double T |
Apr-15-08 09:21 PM |
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Why don't I have you on ignore already? |
FlyingSquirrel |
Apr-15-08 09:21 PM |
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funny |
mtnsnake |
Apr-15-08 09:25 PM |
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ROUND ONE: Snake VS Squirrel!!! |
Moochy |
Apr-15-08 10:55 PM |
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Maybe because Obama |
Arrowhead2k1 |
Apr-15-08 09:22 PM |
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Funding troops who were already sent into a thicket of shit by Hillary & Co |
Wolsh |
Apr-15-08 09:23 PM |
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As a junior senator...you sure think she was powerful. |
Auntie Bush |
Apr-15-08 09:44 PM |
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Her vote counts as much as anyone elses....she also came in as the wife of the leader of the party.. |
Wolsh |
Apr-15-08 09:45 PM |
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I thought she didn't have any power and /or experience. Can't have it both ways. |
Auntie Bush |
Apr-15-08 09:53 PM |
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You're grasping at straws. |
Wolsh |
Apr-15-08 10:06 PM |
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She was married to Tom Daschle? |
jackson_dem |
Apr-15-08 09:55 PM |
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LOL |
mtnsnake |
Apr-15-08 09:57 PM |
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When Hillary runs against McCain, the War Vote won't be an issue.. |
Tellurian |
Apr-15-08 10:27 PM |
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Seems to me |
junofeb |
Apr-15-08 10:07 PM |
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"Yes I can" with Obama I have a lot of hope bubbah... |
Imagevision |
Apr-15-08 09:23 PM |
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Or our soldiers could get conveniently hung out to dry by W. in order to blame Dems. |
kwenu |
Apr-15-08 09:23 PM |
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Why didn't anyone here crucify Kerry for that vote in the last election? |
TK421 |
Apr-15-08 09:28 PM |
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Yup, exactly. Selective criticism runs rampant here. It always has. |
mtnsnake |
Apr-15-08 09:32 PM |
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And apparently, no matter how un-self-aware, always will. |
dchill |
Apr-15-08 09:37 PM |
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And NOW I have to go dig up every Democratic senator who voted for IWR |
TK421 |
Apr-15-08 10:50 PM |
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Here is the list of Yeas and Nays for the war vote |
mtnsnake |
Apr-15-08 10:55 PM |
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Thank you, mtnsnake...... |
TK421 |
Apr-15-08 10:56 PM |
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Cheers |
mtnsnake |
Apr-15-08 10:57 PM |
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Many Democrats didn't vote FOR War. |
bvar22 |
Apr-16-08 11:18 AM |
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So...I'm not crazy? |
TK421 |
Apr-15-08 10:36 PM |
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Exactly |
seasonedblue |
Apr-15-08 10:31 PM |
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You mean I'm not a nut-ball for thinking this? |
TK421 |
Apr-15-08 10:42 PM |
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Exactly wrong- I refer you to post 101. |
Melinda |
Apr-15-08 10:58 PM |
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Oh look. Another person who wasn't here then commenting on what happened. |
JVS |
Apr-16-08 06:44 AM |
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You obviously weren't here when Dean was running. |
Melinda |
Apr-15-08 10:56 PM |
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Oh pardon me, Melinda...I started posting here during the '04 debates |
TK421 |
Apr-15-08 11:13 PM |
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There is no need to be snarky, sheese. We are in the primary season... |
Melinda |
Apr-15-08 11:41 PM |
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No harm certainly, but your post struck me as a bit snotty...perhaps I was wrong |
TK421 |
Apr-16-08 05:11 PM |
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And I see pro-Hilary posts here. What's your point? |
JVS |
Apr-16-08 06:48 AM |
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It was Wes Clark that ultimately coaxed my support to JK. |
Melinda |
Apr-16-08 10:00 AM |
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oh we did |
darboy |
Apr-15-08 11:23 PM |
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You weren't here. |
JVS |
Apr-16-08 06:42 AM |
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Plenty did. I can show you posts if you like |
Egnever |
Apr-16-08 12:19 PM |
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A little thing known as accountability |
MadHound |
Apr-15-08 09:30 PM |
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Bingo. As I made that brother/Iraq picture thread, I am fully aware that Obama isn't the furthest |
GarbagemanLB |
Apr-15-08 09:38 PM |
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I have no problem with holding anyone accountable but |
mtnsnake |
Apr-15-08 09:38 PM |
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Perhaps you're not understanding what I'm saying here |
MadHound |
Apr-15-08 09:55 PM |
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SO! Please explain how Clinton LEARNED from her Iraq vote in her Kyle-Lieberman Iran vote! |
calipendence |
Apr-15-08 09:35 PM |
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I might have to stop reading DU |
lastliberalintexas |
Apr-15-08 09:36 PM |
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I doubt if you are alone in your sentiments, lastliberalintexas. nt |
mtnsnake |
Apr-15-08 09:40 PM |
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Enjoy your fail |
Symarip |
Apr-15-08 09:37 PM |
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Um.. no.... once we're there, we have to fund the soldiers.... |
scheming daemons |
Apr-15-08 09:38 PM |
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Yeah |
Jake3463 |
Apr-15-08 09:38 PM |
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Your welcome |
mtnsnake |
Apr-15-08 09:45 PM |
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In all fairness |
Jake3463 |
Apr-15-08 09:48 PM |
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You sound just fine |
mtnsnake |
Apr-15-08 09:56 PM |
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See we do agree |
Jake3463 |
Apr-15-08 09:59 PM |
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Oh fuck do we ever |
mtnsnake |
Apr-15-08 10:03 PM |
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To be honest |
Jake3463 |
Apr-15-08 10:06 PM |
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watch me. and weep |
Truth Hurts A Lot |
Apr-15-08 09:47 PM |
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Speaking of 2002 speeches, why is there no footage of the speech Obama is running on? |
jackson_dem |
Apr-15-08 09:56 PM |
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Wanna bet, rattle boy? |
thevoiceofreason |
Apr-15-08 09:53 PM |
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The war wouldn't come up for funding votes if it hadn't been authorized. |
Mooney |
Apr-15-08 09:54 PM |
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K&R - Yes, Obama has always voted to continue the war |
guruoo |
Apr-15-08 09:58 PM |
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You have always been rightwing DLC and never supported Dennis |
Ichingcarpenter |
Apr-15-08 10:00 PM |
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Here read these past threads I did on Kucinich. Then you'll apologize for your lie if youve got guts |
mtnsnake |
Apr-15-08 10:06 PM |
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First thread passive aggressive supportive post of Dennis |
Ichingcarpenter |
Apr-15-08 11:14 PM |
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Apr-16-08 06:32 AM |
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Big Bear John Made A Good Point On This |
Dinger |
Apr-15-08 10:09 PM |
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So should Obama have voted against the troops having armor or vets having support? |
zulchzulu |
Apr-15-08 10:31 PM |
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Apr-15-08 10:36 PM |
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Thanks for reminding me of your pre-junior high level of basic English |
zulchzulu |
Apr-15-08 10:59 PM |
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Apr-15-08 11:05 PM |
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Apr-16-08 08:55 AM |
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Apr-16-08 08:57 AM |
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And who will hold the Bush Admin war criminals accountable? |
RiverStone |
Apr-15-08 10:37 PM |
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That's good |
mtnsnake |
Apr-15-08 10:41 PM |
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Thanks for acknowledging some promise and common ground |
RiverStone |
Apr-15-08 10:54 PM |
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That wasn't the case for me at all, mtnsnake |
Emit |
Apr-15-08 10:38 PM |
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Voting against a war that hasn't started yet = political risk |
Jed Dilligan |
Apr-15-08 11:00 PM |
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The fact of the matter is that they are two different votes with two different... |
demdog78 |
Apr-15-08 11:08 PM |
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Congress controls them getting in |
darboy |
Apr-15-08 11:16 PM |
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I sure as FUCK can, and I sure as FUCK did, and I sure as FUCK will. |
krkaufman |
Apr-16-08 12:35 AM |
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"That is the cold hard truth" BZZZZZT. |
cali |
Apr-16-08 06:39 AM |
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My candidate IS DK, lol. |
LWolf |
Apr-16-08 06:40 AM |
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Nope. Not the same. |
JVS |
Apr-16-08 06:41 AM |
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Wake up. It's obvious I'm trying to do the opposite |
mtnsnake |
Apr-16-08 07:18 AM |
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HRC's intentions behind her IWR vote are a legitimate issue. |
Frumious B |
Apr-16-08 07:05 AM |
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Yes we can. |
Rose Siding |
Apr-16-08 07:42 AM |
#126 |
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another air ball |
dmsRoar |
Apr-16-08 08:02 AM |
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That's the truth. n/t |
Jamastiene |
Apr-16-08 08:04 AM |
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Forgive me if I've chosen to go with the enabler instead of the author/enabler |
shadowknows69 |
Apr-16-08 08:09 AM |
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hey thereeee, mtnsnake! |
dionysus |
Apr-16-08 09:31 AM |
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Weak. |
Ian_rd |
Apr-16-08 09:33 AM |
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My candidate IS Dennis Kucinich. |
flvegan |
Apr-16-08 10:06 AM |
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Their votes are the |
elmerdem |
Apr-16-08 10:29 AM |
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What are the choices for an Anti-War Democrat? |
bvar22 |
Apr-16-08 11:51 AM |
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K&R |
cricket08 |
Apr-16-08 12:15 PM |
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Oct 2, 2002 Remarks of Sen Obama Against Going to War |
mod mom |
Apr-16-08 12:19 PM |
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This thread is equally flamebait as the other one, |
closeupready |
Apr-16-08 12:22 PM |
#145 |
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BOTH Clintons SOLD that war to the Dem lawmakers AND the American people and STUCK BY Bush |
blm |
Apr-16-08 12:27 PM |
#146 |
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Sorry. Your argument is ridiculously flawed. |
sparosnare |
Apr-16-08 12:34 PM |
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Kucinich fan here that won't vote for Hillary for many reasons |
mrone2 |
Apr-16-08 12:42 PM |
#149 |
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No not hypocrites |
OhioBlues |
Apr-16-08 06:35 PM |
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Hear, hear! Hear, hear |
indepat |
Apr-16-08 07:48 PM |
#154 |
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Single-issue voters? Is that what you think DU is full of? |
gristy |
Apr-16-08 07:54 PM |
#155 |
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I GUESS YOU NEVER WATCHED CSPAN IN YOUR LIFE |
LSK |
Apr-16-08 08:04 PM |
#157 |
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