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Lerkfish Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-15-08 10:20 AM
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50. abracadabra
Elitism is a way of thinking. Obama demonstrates it over and over.

Edited on Tue Apr-15-08 10:45 AM by barb162
Clinton and McCain don't demonstrate it. It's as simple as that.

1. you purport to know Obama's thoughts, label them as "elitist" (code word for the bigots out there to fill in with "uppity"), and then excuse both Clinton and McCain from that label.

IMHO: the burden of proof is on YOU for your assertion that Obama is "elitist" and Clinton and McCain are not.

for my part, I can point to several elitist actions on the part mccain very easily:

1. McCain and Bush were laughing and eating cake at the most expensive digs in california to celebrate McCain's birthday while predominantly african americans were dying in New Orleans. can't get much more elitist than that.

balls in your court.
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  -To all of the HRC supporters calling Obama 'an elitist'...please explain something to me. Elrond Hubbard  Apr-15-08 08:53 AM   #0 
  - They know who has the voting power and they don't stand aloof from them  Cronus Protagonist   Apr-15-08 08:54 AM   #1 
  - HRC has implied that the only states that counted...  Elrond Hubbard   Apr-15-08 08:56 AM   #2 
  - Maybe you should provide actual quotations  Cronus Protagonist   Apr-15-08 08:58 AM   #3 
  - as a rural voter, I don't feel that he "dissed" us in anyway  Maine-ah   Apr-15-08 09:00 AM   #6 
  - do you think the media has underestimated you?  ginnyinWI   Apr-15-08 09:14 AM   #15 
  - I would say the media has "dissed" us  Maine-ah   Apr-15-08 10:45 AM   #61 
  - My interpretation  Lovesgunslovesgod   Apr-15-08 10:01 AM   #38 
     - but you weren't going to vote for him anyway  shugah   Apr-15-08 10:23 AM   #54 
     - I think you are presuming  Lovesgunslovesgod   Apr-15-08 10:29 AM   #56 
     - Yeah, I'd be interested as to why the talking point the person you  cliffordu   Apr-15-08 10:57 AM   #70 
     - Well, I'd like to know what is more important to you?  Skidmore   Apr-15-08 10:48 AM   #63 
     - Obama wasn't (as I interpreted it) speaking of the  Maine-ah   Apr-15-08 10:49 AM   #66 
     - Well, then, if you  cliffordu   Apr-15-08 11:04 AM   #79 
  - What I see...  countingbluecars   Apr-15-08 09:17 AM   #17 
  - Be careful  Lovesgunslovesgod   Apr-15-08 10:35 AM   #60 
  - I am a rural voter. and I don't need your elitest bullshit.  cali   Apr-15-08 09:17 AM   #18 
  - 81% of Americans live in cities and suburbs  SOS   Apr-15-08 10:05 AM   #40 
     - The other 19% get to choose our Presidents  Cronus Protagonist   Apr-15-08 11:20 AM   #83 
  - I do not believe he is an elitist anymore than Bush is the problem  Evergreen Emerald   Apr-15-08 08:58 AM   #4 
  - Fair enough...  Elrond Hubbard   Apr-15-08 09:00 AM   #7 
  - The effects of NAFTA/GAT took years to come to fruition.  Windy   Apr-15-08 09:08 AM   #8 
     - Ya know, Nafta turned out badly in a number of ways, but it actually  Evergreen Emerald   Apr-15-08 09:11 AM   #12 
        - Ahem - Wrong, as usual,  cliffordu   Apr-15-08 11:13 AM   #81 
  - It doesn't matter if they are or not!  YOY   Apr-15-08 08:59 AM   #5 
  - wow  Lerkfish   Apr-15-08 09:08 AM   #9 
  - Lerk.  YOY   Apr-15-08 09:13 AM   #14 
     - heh, sorry dude  Lerkfish   Apr-15-08 09:32 AM   #24 
        - Watch them pistols cowboy!  YOY   Apr-15-08 09:36 AM   #26 
           - LOL! true that.  Lerkfish   Apr-15-08 09:37 AM   #28 
              - I'm just pissed at the combination of  YOY   Apr-15-08 09:42 AM   #32 
                 - agreed. its so obviously a scorched earth campaign at this point that they are  Lerkfish   Apr-15-08 09:46 AM   #35 
                    - I'm just having fun on a slow day at work with them  YOY   Apr-15-08 11:41 AM   #85 
  - It's the ability to act like a regular person to voter's face that works in American Politics  bklyncowgirl   Apr-15-08 11:26 AM   #84 
  - They don't court the voters while making snide remarks behind their backs  Beacool   Apr-15-08 09:09 AM   #10 
  - Bob Herbert was on Morning Joe today.  ginnyinWI   Apr-15-08 09:21 AM   #19 
  - oh stop. "HRC has done this before"  Evergreen Emerald   Apr-15-08 09:30 AM   #23 
  - Well, a lot of regular people then "misconstrued" his words.  Beacool   Apr-15-08 09:40 AM   #29 
     - Amen  Lovesgunslovesgod   Apr-15-08 10:04 AM   #39 
  - Psst! Hillary is a fatcat.  RUMMYisFROSTED   Apr-15-08 09:28 AM   #22 
  - Psst, she didn't put down her party's base.  Beacool   Apr-15-08 09:41 AM   #30 
  - Good point.  RUMMYisFROSTED   Apr-15-08 10:05 AM   #41 
     - Oh yeah, she's such a Repug.  Beacool   Apr-15-08 10:33 AM   #58 
  - Pssst,Obama is a fatcat  barb162   Apr-15-08 10:13 AM   #45 
     - He attended very expensive schools  Lovesgunslovesgod   Apr-15-08 10:20 AM   #51 
     - Let's see:  RUMMYisFROSTED   Apr-15-08 10:22 AM   #53 
  - I was angry  Lovesgunslovesgod   Apr-15-08 10:15 AM   #48 
  - Could we please (Hillary included) STOP  demokatgurrl   Apr-15-08 09:09 AM   #11 
  - They can bowl?  splat   Apr-15-08 09:12 AM   #13 
  - Even Nixon could bowl  WannaJumpMyScooter   Apr-15-08 09:33 AM   #25 
     - Yup, no elitist there, he whipped up the "Silent Majority" who felt dissed by Dems  splat   Apr-15-08 10:10 AM   #42 
  - HRC doesn't cling to her faith or patronize conservatives.  Fredda Weinberg   Apr-15-08 09:15 AM   #16 
  - I think its safe to say every credible presidental candidate ever has been an elitist  TheUniverse   Apr-15-08 09:23 AM   #20 
  - I think that's not safe to say at all.  barb162   Apr-15-08 09:45 AM   #34 
  - NO...  LeFleur1   Apr-15-08 11:04 AM   #78 
     - I think the Cherokee would disagree!  TheUniverse   Apr-15-08 11:18 AM   #82 
  - Elitist = Out of touch arrogance  cricket08   Apr-15-08 09:25 AM   #21 
  - Arrogant? No, just uppity.  ocelot   Apr-15-08 10:53 AM   #67 
  - OH STOP Calling OUT Hillary Supporters!! Do your own reseach!! *********  rodeodance   Apr-15-08 09:37 AM   #27 
  - i'm not calling out anyone...  Elrond Hubbard   Apr-15-08 09:53 AM   #37 
  - The way I see it it's bigger than how they aren't elitist. That really doesn't matter.  Lone_Star_Dem   Apr-15-08 09:41 AM   #31 
  - Drinks at the bar  Lovesgunslovesgod   Apr-15-08 10:12 AM   #43 
     - You've not been paying attention to recent politics if you really don't see how her bar field trip  Lone_Star_Dem   Apr-15-08 10:30 AM   #57 
        - Don't understand your comments  Lovesgunslovesgod   Apr-15-08 10:49 AM   #64 
           - You're right, you don't understand.  Lone_Star_Dem   Apr-15-08 10:58 AM   #71 
  - Elitism is a way of thinking. Obama demonstrates it over and over.  barb162   Apr-15-08 09:44 AM   #33 
  - well, since clinton will lose, I suppose that means you'll vote for mccain?  Lerkfish   Apr-15-08 09:47 AM   #36 
     - State in my post where I "admire him so much"  barb162   Apr-15-08 10:12 AM   #44 
     - abracadabra  Lerkfish   Apr-15-08 10:20 AM   #50 
     - Silly post you have there. Elitism is not a code word for uppity  barb162   Apr-17-08 01:26 AM   #92 
     - hey, I answered your query and instead YOU shut up instead of me  Lerkfish   Apr-15-08 12:34 PM   #89 
        - You evidently wouldn't know it if it hit you in your face  barb162   Apr-17-08 01:19 AM   #91 
     - IMO, you have the latest code figured correctly.  Hepburn   Apr-15-08 10:14 AM   #46 
        - yep, its blatantly transparent.  Lerkfish   Apr-15-08 10:15 AM   #47 
  - They are not snobish  Moderate-Democrate   Apr-15-08 10:17 AM   #49 
  - There 100's of millions of dollars between the 2 of em is worth less because of inflation? Jus tryin  uponit7771   Apr-15-08 10:21 AM   #52 
  - My take  Lovesgunslovesgod   Apr-15-08 10:25 AM   #55 
  - What did Obama say that was incorrect? Hell I live out in the boondocks  B Calm   Apr-15-08 10:34 AM   #59 
     - Sorry  Lovesgunslovesgod   Apr-15-08 10:54 AM   #68 
        - Well my unemployed neighbor is right now shooting his gun in his backyard, and  B Calm   Apr-16-08 08:32 AM   #90 
  - It's funny watching DUers pretend not to grasp the irony of the Hundred Million Dollar Couple...  BlooInBloo   Apr-15-08 10:47 AM   #62 
  - The hundred million dollar couple had nothing  Lovesgunslovesgod   Apr-15-08 10:58 AM   #72 
  - money does not equal elitist. and we are not saying he IS elitist, we are saying what he SAID was  Texas Hill Country   Apr-15-08 10:49 AM   #65 
  - What he said was not elitist; Hillary's and the MSM's spin is duping people  ocelot   Apr-15-08 10:56 AM   #69 
  - no, actually, what he said was... what he meant may not be.  Texas Hill Country   Apr-15-08 11:00 AM   #73 
  - I agree  Lovesgunslovesgod   Apr-15-08 11:01 AM   #75 
  - And voting for a war doesn't create an eligibility argument? You know how you sound?  wowimthere   Apr-15-08 11:03 AM   #76 
  - it's the media duping others... not me... Media "elite" are stupid...  wowimthere   Apr-15-08 11:01 AM   #74 
  - Crown Royal whiskey.  Bornaginhooligan   Apr-15-08 11:03 AM   #77 
  - People are falling all over themselves talking out of their own asses...  wowimthere   Apr-15-08 11:11 AM   #80 
  - Agreed. This is bullshit.  ocelot   Apr-15-08 12:24 PM   #87 
  - You confuse wealth with elitism.  MethuenProgressive   Apr-15-08 11:43 AM   #86 
  - Hi Elrond! Do you know where I can find this?  Kajsa   Apr-15-08 12:29 PM   #88 

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