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Mon Apr-14-08 09:17 AM
Response to Reply #9 |
| 17. When the fuck was this campaign about TRUTH? |
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NEITHER Dem is addressing the WAR, UNIVERSAL HEALTH CARE, or even the ECONOMY. They are too busy pissing on EACH OTHER.
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| -Whoever you support, it must be agreed that Sen. Obama GRABBED the "third rail." |
Tyler Durden |
Apr-14-08 08:58 AM |
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The "gun" issue always comes back to bite us in the ass |
leftofcool |
Apr-14-08 09:00 AM |
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Many Democrats own guns. They just don't build shrines for them. n/t |
PoliticalAmazon |
Apr-14-08 09:07 AM |
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And....this matters how? |
Tyler Durden |
Apr-14-08 09:36 AM |
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Obama's not going to have a problem with this. |
Voice for Peace |
Apr-14-08 10:51 AM |
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I'm not the one you have to convince... |
Tyler Durden |
Apr-14-08 11:29 AM |
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he has a LONG record of voting for gun control. And this problem is HUGE. |
Texas Hill Country |
Apr-14-08 11:30 AM |
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Even most gun owners are in favor of some kinds of gun control, obviously. |
Voice for Peace |
Apr-14-08 02:02 PM |
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Newsflash - he's ALREADY got a problem with this. |
Hoof Hearted |
Apr-14-08 11:39 AM |
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I think you're wrong. Time will tell. |
Voice for Peace |
Apr-14-08 11:48 AM |
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You think I'm wrong that he has an issue with gun owners? Really? |
Hoof Hearted |
Apr-14-08 12:42 PM |
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I think it is an issue that can be overcome, yes. |
Voice for Peace |
Apr-14-08 12:44 PM |
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That was not the POINT. |
Tyler Durden |
Apr-14-08 01:25 PM |
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The point he was making was valid, if "inartful" -- which is that issues like guns and religion |
Voice for Peace |
Apr-14-08 01:39 PM |
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"No one ever went broke underestimating the intelligence of the American public." |
Tyler Durden |
Apr-14-08 01:43 PM |
#123 |
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I don't understand why you are fixated on this. |
Voice for Peace |
Apr-14-08 01:56 PM |
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A question |
Voice for Peace |
Apr-14-08 02:06 PM |
#128 |
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Shit, I had no ideas. |
Tyler Durden |
Apr-14-08 12:05 PM |
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Wrong, the gun issue has cost dems election in the past |
Craftsman |
Apr-14-08 02:23 PM |
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Yeah, but that was the past. I don't think it's going to happen this time. |
Voice for Peace |
Apr-14-08 02:33 PM |
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Why? |
Craftsman |
Apr-14-08 03:32 PM |
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Because neither guns nor gun owners is the enemy. |
Voice for Peace |
Apr-14-08 03:43 PM |
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But we sure as hell don't want our guns banned, either. (n/t) |
benEzra |
Apr-14-08 05:34 PM |
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At least he showed that he knows people value their gun rights.. |
Bensthename |
Apr-14-08 09:01 AM |
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He RAISED THE ISSUE. |
Tyler Durden |
Apr-14-08 09:12 AM |
#12 |
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he raised the issue in a private meeting in San Fran |
Scriptor Ignotus |
Apr-14-08 11:06 AM |
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Is ANYTHING off the record anymore? |
Tyler Durden |
Apr-14-08 11:27 AM |
#58 |
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yea I know what you mean |
Scriptor Ignotus |
Apr-14-08 12:20 PM |
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He didn't have to. And I'm certain he didn't mean to. |
Tyler Durden |
Apr-14-08 12:23 PM |
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Its not the money as much.. |
kenfrequed |
Apr-14-08 12:04 PM |
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A few things.... |
Texas Hill Country |
Apr-14-08 12:07 PM |
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yeah. what you said. |
Tuesday Afternoon |
Apr-14-08 09:02 AM |
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Let McCain handle the guns. He shoots from the hip. |
datopbanana |
Apr-14-08 09:04 AM |
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Hello and welcome to DU and |
Tuesday Afternoon |
Apr-14-08 09:14 AM |
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Mark my words: he won't have to say ANYTHING. |
Tyler Durden |
Apr-14-08 09:15 AM |
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from a historical perspective |
WannaJumpMyScooter |
Apr-14-08 09:06 AM |
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You said it...I didn't. |
Tyler Durden |
Apr-14-08 09:15 AM |
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Controllings Guns in U.S. Cities - Today - Monday on C-SPAN3 at 2pm ET |
Breeze54 |
Apr-14-08 09:07 AM |
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Not a good path to go down. That's for sure. |
susankh4 |
Apr-14-08 09:07 AM |
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The dangerous third rail of truth? |
Kristi1696 |
Apr-14-08 09:08 AM |
#9 |
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When the fuck was this campaign about TRUTH? |
Tyler Durden |
Apr-14-08 09:17 AM |
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This is a fact. |
JoFerret |
Apr-14-08 09:31 AM |
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Thank you. NICE to hear someone other than me say it out loud. |
Tyler Durden |
Apr-14-08 09:32 AM |
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But the amazing thing is |
JoFerret |
Apr-14-08 10:37 AM |
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They've addressed all of these issues--and cowardice is failed politics |
CK dexter |
Apr-14-08 09:40 AM |
#30 |
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Or...put up with McCain. |
Tyler Durden |
Apr-14-08 09:54 AM |
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The only hope is to change the damned system. |
Tyler Durden |
Apr-14-08 10:04 AM |
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That wasn't the position that was (unwittingly, perhaps) taken '94-'04. |
benEzra |
Apr-14-08 05:38 PM |
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The two that were actually addressing those very important issues were kicked to the curb. |
Blue State Native |
Apr-14-08 10:43 AM |
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And thank you too! |
Tyler Durden |
Apr-14-08 11:11 AM |
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Haven't been paying attention, have you? |
damonm |
Apr-14-08 01:04 PM |
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AND, in my not so humble opinion, both have done a piss poor job. |
Tyler Durden |
Apr-14-08 01:27 PM |
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The minute Obama goes off script he always gets into trouble. |
The_Casual_Observer |
Apr-14-08 09:10 AM |
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YA. ALWAYS!! 2 or 3 times during 15 months of campaign is 1 to 5 times TOO MANY! |
datopbanana |
Apr-14-08 12:26 PM |
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3 occurances at 2 weeks wasted each...6 weeks. |
Tyler Durden |
Apr-14-08 01:39 PM |
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well it depends. is the third rail inbetween rails 1 and 2 or is it lateral to either rail 1 or 2 |
datopbanana |
Apr-14-08 09:10 AM |
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Oh give it a rest, you literalist. n/t |
Tyler Durden |
Apr-14-08 09:17 AM |
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Now I don't have to agree with your negative assessment of Obama's |
nomad1776 |
Apr-14-08 09:13 AM |
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This just didn't have to come up. |
Tyler Durden |
Apr-14-08 09:24 AM |
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It was more like grabbing four "third rails" simultaneously |
lumberjack_jeff |
Apr-14-08 09:15 AM |
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Hey, this should cheer you up! He doesn't believe any of those things. Don't buy into spin. |
datopbanana |
Apr-14-08 09:17 AM |
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Who cares what Clinton or Obama BELIEVE? |
Tyler Durden |
Apr-14-08 09:27 AM |
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im right there with you... |
datopbanana |
Apr-14-08 09:35 AM |
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Most people obsessed over the issue but don't |
mmonk |
Apr-14-08 09:19 AM |
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Whatever you say, boss. |
Tyler Durden |
Apr-14-08 09:31 AM |
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And Hillary held his arm to the track, instead of helping him out |
Armstead |
Apr-14-08 09:36 AM |
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His choice wasn't POOR, it was FUCKING STUPID. |
Tyler Durden |
Apr-14-08 09:44 AM |
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I am not referring to the fence sitters and independents |
Armstead |
Apr-14-08 11:11 AM |
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Which is what he should have done, and didn't do. |
Tyler Durden |
Apr-14-08 11:13 AM |
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I wish we could take back the last few days |
Armstead |
Apr-14-08 11:22 AM |
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And Obama would have been an Idiot not to jump on it if Clinton said it. |
Tyler Durden |
Apr-14-08 11:25 AM |
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I don;t think EITHER of them should deliberatly help the GOP that way |
Armstead |
Apr-14-08 11:52 AM |
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The both have done this before; this is not a "first" |
Tyler Durden |
Apr-14-08 11:57 AM |
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I wish I was as much of an idiot as Obama |
Armstead |
Apr-14-08 12:06 PM |
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You may be saying that in the minority in November. |
Tyler Durden |
Apr-14-08 12:10 PM |
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In a nutshell... |
Armstead |
Apr-14-08 12:16 PM |
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I don't think Obama or Clinton see the other camp as "..your own troops..." |
Tyler Durden |
Apr-14-08 12:21 PM |
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It can be ignored by Hillary -- That's how it should be responded to by her |
Armstead |
Apr-14-08 01:08 PM |
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As I said, I don't think either side sees the "other" as "theirs".... |
Tyler Durden |
Apr-14-08 01:22 PM |
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No - it must NOT be agreed upon. |
OhioBlue |
Apr-14-08 09:40 AM |
#29 |
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Keep it up. |
Tyler Durden |
Apr-14-08 09:48 AM |
#32 |
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let them read my comments |
OhioBlue |
Apr-14-08 03:04 PM |
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Mistake or not, its minor due to the fact that he handles it amazingly and makes it work for him |
Political Heretic |
Apr-14-08 09:53 AM |
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Oh, everything he does is just so amazing isn't it? |
Hoof Hearted |
Apr-14-08 11:53 AM |
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Not everything, but enough so that he is winning. |
Political Heretic |
Apr-14-08 02:17 PM |
#129 |
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The objective voice of Tyler Durden. |
Buzz Clik |
Apr-14-08 09:53 AM |
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#'s 33 and 34? You're on IGNORE and I can't read you. |
Tyler Durden |
Apr-14-08 09:57 AM |
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Is this in reference to his bitter comments? |
smiley_glad_hands |
Apr-14-08 10:44 AM |
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The GUN portion of his comments. |
Tyler Durden |
Apr-14-08 11:15 AM |
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Yeah -- I know the gun nuts in my neighborhood are taking down their Obama signs |
nichomachus |
Apr-14-08 10:51 AM |
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If you can't be objective about a serious problem.... |
Tyler Durden |
Apr-14-08 11:17 AM |
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Uh, do you even read your own trash? |
Drunken Irishman |
Apr-14-08 11:19 AM |
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Actually, they are making excuses. and so much for you. |
Tyler Durden |
Apr-14-08 11:22 AM |
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I'll return the favor. |
Drunken Irishman |
Apr-14-08 11:46 AM |
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What part of "IGNORED" didn't you get? n/t |
Tyler Durden |
Apr-14-08 11:58 AM |
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Cheerlead??? |
nichomachus |
Apr-14-08 11:25 AM |
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"Yeah -- I know the gun nuts in my neighborhood are taking down their Obama signs" |
Tyler Durden |
Apr-14-08 11:32 AM |
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Not a candidate thread? Then, why is Obama's name in the title? |
nichomachus |
Apr-14-08 11:36 AM |
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Because it wasn't "an unknown Democratic Candidate." |
Tyler Durden |
Apr-14-08 11:41 AM |
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But she did push all those buttons -- just in different ways |
nichomachus |
Apr-14-08 11:50 AM |
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And as I said, if Clinton had said it and Obama had not replied... |
Tyler Durden |
Apr-14-08 11:53 AM |
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he didn't just stick his foot in his mouth |
paulk |
Apr-14-08 10:55 AM |
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He might pull out the "religion" bit...but the guns? Never. |
Tyler Durden |
Apr-14-08 11:19 AM |
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All that pandering to the fundies gone to waste |
Lilith Velkor |
Apr-14-08 01:11 PM |
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Whatever one says, it cost us time and money from both campaigns. |
Tyler Durden |
Apr-14-08 01:28 PM |
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He didnt say anything that we dont believe. And was said in private. |
Bensthename |
Apr-14-08 11:11 AM |
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No, he just said it in the middle of a dangerous campaign, in public. |
Tyler Durden |
Apr-14-08 11:21 AM |
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It was not in public. It was a private meeting with a Clinton/Rove decoy sitting in to record it. |
Bensthename |
Apr-14-08 11:39 AM |
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Saying "Rove" in regard to one of the candidates is on Skinner's list. |
Tyler Durden |
Apr-14-08 11:42 AM |
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rephrase it? No, I think it was accurate. |
Bensthename |
Apr-14-08 11:58 AM |
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I'm just sorry you felt the need to say it in the first place. |
Tyler Durden |
Apr-14-08 12:01 PM |
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Agreed. |
Bensthename |
Apr-14-08 12:11 PM |
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Well.....Let's see..... |
cliffordu |
Apr-14-08 11:27 AM |
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Well...Let's see.... |
Tyler Durden |
Apr-14-08 11:35 AM |
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Awright, I can go with that. |
cliffordu |
Apr-14-08 12:10 PM |
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Excellent. Now how do we talk the chief "Head Cases" into keeping trap SHUT? |
Tyler Durden |
Apr-14-08 12:14 PM |
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he reinforced the idea that the dems are anti-gun, anti-god and think they are racist xenophobes |
Texas Hill Country |
Apr-14-08 11:29 AM |
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Strike three. |
Tyler Durden |
Apr-14-08 11:37 AM |
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Valid points. It was a completely unnecessary sideshow. |
rug |
Apr-14-08 11:44 AM |
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And now it's back out of the "Midway Freak Show" and back in "Center Ring." |
Tyler Durden |
Apr-14-08 12:07 PM |
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this is a change election...That won't fly this time. I discount your judgment... |
wowimthere |
Apr-14-08 12:00 PM |
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You don't live in Michigan, Florida, New York, California..... |
Tyler Durden |
Apr-14-08 12:04 PM |
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it doesn't matter where I live... I'm looking at the candidates and this race isn't close... |
wowimthere |
Apr-14-08 12:18 PM |
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The media is leading you down a dark alley! Caucus states still go to the Convention... |
wowimthere |
Apr-14-08 12:22 PM |
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Whatever you say.... |
Tyler Durden |
Apr-14-08 12:28 PM |
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the comments weren't stupid...they were true and the issues should be the economy and health care |
wowimthere |
Apr-14-08 12:35 PM |
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I'm certain you can volunteer to steer the country's opinion. |
Tyler Durden |
Apr-14-08 01:30 PM |
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I laughed really hard at this sentence. |
Alter Ego |
Apr-14-08 12:24 PM |
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Unfortunately true, isn't it? |
Tyler Durden |
Apr-14-08 01:31 PM |
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The funny thing is... He told the truth... No one is taking away the 2nd amendment |
wowimthere |
Apr-14-08 12:33 PM |
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You need to stop thinking "Clinton." She didn't say it. |
Tyler Durden |
Apr-14-08 01:34 PM |
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Is someone gonna try to take away my gun? |
goldcanyonaz |
Apr-14-08 01:25 PM |
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You aren't stupid enough to believe someone will, are you? |
Tyler Durden |
Apr-14-08 01:36 PM |
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Gun Control. Stupidest. Plank. Ever. nt |
billyoc |
Apr-14-08 01:33 PM |
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You're fuckin' "A" right. |
Tyler Durden |
Apr-14-08 01:37 PM |
#119 |
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Many guns owners loathe the idea of Chicago-style or Illinois style gun control going national |
aikoaiko |
Apr-14-08 01:43 PM |
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EXACTLY. So why did he have to say ANYTHING? |
Tyler Durden |
Apr-14-08 01:47 PM |
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It's ok |
sudopod |
Apr-14-08 01:54 PM |
#125 |
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Big mistake to take on the gun-owners across the country... |
hayu_lol |
Apr-14-08 02:30 PM |
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We've got to be honest here. |
sudopod |
Apr-14-08 02:46 PM |
#133 |
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If it does, then the House and Senate will turn red. Again. |
benEzra |
Apr-14-08 09:19 PM |
#139 |
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