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FlyingSquirrel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-13-08 09:43 PM
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80. She's right and she's wrong
She's right that Gore seemed less personable than Bush. She's wrong that she seems more personable than Barack. She's right that stupid people vote on these stupid issues. She's wrong that she can overcome her own issues by tossing back a few shots in PA.
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  -Hillary slams Al Gore on CNN BluegrassDem  Apr-13-08 08:16 PM   #0 
  - Obama: By the way, I think Al Gore won...  PM7nj   Apr-13-08 08:17 PM   #1 
  - Did Obama really say that?  NJSecularist   Apr-13-08 08:19 PM   #4 
  - Indeed he did! NT  NYCGirl   Apr-13-08 08:19 PM   #7 
  - I caught that too. Damn he's good! nt  elizm   Apr-13-08 08:19 PM   #8 
  - Take that, Hilly!  No Surrender   Apr-13-08 08:21 PM   #12 
  - Wohooo.. I wish I had seen this.. I feel better now!!!  futureliveshere   Apr-13-08 08:25 PM   #18 
  - .  quantass   Apr-13-08 09:10 PM   #54 
  - And he would have won in 2004 had he run - but the DLC ask  Samantha   Apr-13-08 09:51 PM   #82 
  - Good catch! I didn;t make that connection during the program.  Armstead   Apr-13-08 09:59 PM   #91 
  - And Obama just praised  countingbluecars   Apr-13-08 08:18 PM   #2 
  - Obama said that he believes that Gore won  me b zola   Apr-13-08 08:19 PM   #6 
  - Gore is worthy to be praised and  zidzi   Apr-13-08 08:31 PM   #22 
  - LOL I am not holding my breath waiting for Hillary to praise Gore on CNN  proud2Blib   Apr-13-08 09:30 PM   #73 
  - I think she knows now that Gore will endorse Obama  Cali_Democrat   Apr-13-08 08:18 PM   #3 
  - Must be, since they both brought him up  Changenow   Apr-13-08 08:20 PM   #11 
  - I think that's a good deduction...  grytpype   Apr-13-08 08:28 PM   #21 
  - No he wont  leftynyc   Apr-14-08 02:01 PM   #103 
  - She thinks everyone has failed but herself. n/t  greguganus   Apr-13-08 08:19 PM   #5 
  - Deleted message  Name removed   Apr-13-08 08:19 PM   #9 
  - Deleted sub-thread  Name removed   Apr-13-08 08:46 PM   #36 
  - We are royally screwed if Hillary were the nominee. Not only do vast  beachmom   Apr-13-08 09:01 PM   #45 
     - Also:  FatDave   Apr-14-08 01:51 PM   #96 
  - Al Gore will come out for Obama; Hillary knows this now  Ikonoklast   Apr-13-08 08:19 PM   #10 
  - It won't hurt Al, only Hillary  Changenow   Apr-13-08 08:21 PM   #13 
  - he damned well ought to now  YDogg   Apr-13-08 08:24 PM   #17 
  - I honestly don't think Kerry lost because he was deemed elitist  Hippo_Tron   Apr-13-08 08:23 PM   #14 
  - Is she still running for the Democratic nomination? eom  smiley_glad_hands   Apr-13-08 08:23 PM   #15 
  - Haven't you heard  spokane   Apr-13-08 09:40 PM   #79 
  - But Obama came out and lifted him up and said: "I think Al Gore won."  Bonobo   Apr-13-08 08:24 PM   #16 
  - Bonobo, may I repeat that?  FatDave   Apr-14-08 01:54 PM   #97 
  - It's too bad she ran over a Nobel Prize winner  tishaLA   Apr-13-08 08:26 PM   #19 
  - of course you're lying. She didn't mention Gore in that context at all.  bigtree   Apr-13-08 08:27 PM   #20 
  - How did she?  Changenow   Apr-13-08 08:32 PM   #23 
  - She's been throwing "Democrats losing presidential elections" under the bus all day, stating they  K Gardner   Apr-13-08 08:34 PM   #24 
  - She's using republican frames against the party and democrats.  smiley_glad_hands   Apr-13-08 08:37 PM   #25 
  - she didn't name Gore in that regard. And DU was famous last year for bashing Democrats.  bigtree   Apr-13-08 08:38 PM   #27 
     - DU is not the democratic party.  Zachstar   Apr-13-08 08:44 PM   #33 
        - she said that in 2000, 2004, large segments of voters didn't think our party shared their values  bigtree   Apr-13-08 08:57 PM   #41 
           - No, no, no, that is NOT what is going on here. Hillary has zero use for "the truth".  beachmom   Apr-13-08 09:03 PM   #46 
           - well, that's just rhetoric. The reality is, that she stated the obvious  bigtree   Apr-13-08 09:09 PM   # 
              - I wonder why it was perceived that Democrats didn't represent people's values?  beachmom   Apr-13-08 09:14 PM   #57 
                 - It certainly is a legitimate issue. We HAVE good values, but those haven't been communicated well  bigtree   Apr-13-08 09:17 PM   #60 
                    - It is NOT a legitimate issue in the context of how Hillary is raising it.  beachmom   Apr-13-08 09:55 PM   #86 
                       - So are you saying  leftynyc   Apr-14-08 02:05 PM   #104 
           - First - there was an equally large section of the population that  Kber   Apr-13-08 09:08 PM   #50 
              - She spoke about the overall population of voters in those contests. Try some intellectual honesty  bigtree   Apr-13-08 09:13 PM   #55 
                 - "intellectual honesty"...... after the bitter comment crap?  TLM   Apr-13-08 09:26 PM   #68 
                 - right, you feel she lied, so you lie?  bigtree   Apr-13-08 09:27 PM   #70 
                 - Oh so it is OK for Hillary and her supporters to lie and distort to attack Obama...  TLM   Apr-13-08 09:30 PM   #74 
                 - She said no such thing  leftynyc   Apr-14-08 02:06 PM   #105 
                 - So was I. (Referring to GE, I mean)  Kber   Apr-13-08 10:32 PM   #93 
  - yes she did....  TLM   Apr-13-08 09:16 PM   #59 
     - she was speaking to the portion of the vote which went to republicans  bigtree   Apr-13-08 09:26 PM   #69 
        - Oh see how you have to make excuses about what she meant?  TLM   Apr-13-08 09:28 PM   #71 
           - beats lying about what she said  bigtree   Apr-13-08 09:29 PM   #72 
              - Ok so you only support lying about Obama....  TLM   Apr-13-08 09:32 PM   #76 
  - ENDORSE AL!!!!  tekisui   Apr-13-08 08:37 PM   #26 
  - I agree! Clinton is doing nothing but crapping on the democratic party now and enough is enough!  Zachstar   Apr-13-08 08:45 PM   #34 
  - She did not name Al Gore.  AX10   Apr-13-08 08:38 PM   #28 
  - She mentioned the 2000 and 2004 elections.  tekisui   Apr-13-08 08:49 PM   #39 
  - She was talking about perceptions.  AX10   Apr-13-08 08:57 PM   #42 
  - And we won seats in 2006. So 2000 and 2004 were about the presidential candidates.  beachmom   Apr-13-08 09:06 PM   #48 
  - Turn down the RPMs on the Spin Machine  Zachstar   Apr-13-08 09:52 PM   #83 
  - there WAS a large segment of voters in those contests who opted for the republican nominee  bigtree   Apr-13-08 09:05 PM   #47 
     - No, this is about bashing Obama for being "elitist". Hillary does not  beachmom   Apr-13-08 09:08 PM   #49 
     - that's a convenient way to avoid being honest about what she actually said.  bigtree   Apr-13-08 09:15 PM   #58 
     - I contend that Obama does it better than any Democrat in decades.  tekisui   Apr-13-08 09:09 PM   #51 
        - he certainly does have a knack for communicating  bigtree   Apr-13-08 09:17 PM   #62 
  - No, it was plural  catgirl   Apr-13-08 09:19 PM   #63 
  - THEM FIGHTING WORDS!  Tinksrival   Apr-13-08 08:38 PM   #29 
  - It jumped the shark after Iowa.  Fox Mulder   Apr-13-08 08:39 PM   #30 
  - " Because they were deemed" is NOT "because they were" nt  Mezzo   Apr-13-08 08:40 PM   #31 
  - It's also not "Because they were wrongly deemed"  FatDave   Apr-14-08 01:58 PM   #99 
  - Clinton screwed up bad with that remark!  Zachstar   Apr-13-08 08:43 PM   #32 
  - Sounds like she was talking about Kerry  OzarkDem   Apr-13-08 08:46 PM   #35 
  - Gore got the mandate of the people. Kerry did not.  AX10   Apr-13-08 08:46 PM   #37 
  - so it's okay if it's Kerry she's attacking?  book_worm   Apr-13-08 08:49 PM   #38 
  - Wasn't the electorate pretty much split in those elections? She spoke the truth.  bigtree   Apr-13-08 09:00 PM   #43 
  - The scare mongering was the #1 reason Bush was re-elected in '04.  beachmom   Apr-13-08 09:09 PM   #52 
     - attacking me personally doesn't make your argument  bigtree   Apr-13-08 09:20 PM   #65 
  - Yep. They are still bitter that he didn't endorse their candidate n/t  politicasista   Apr-14-08 01:59 PM   #100 
  - What part of 2000 and 2004 do you not understand?  FrenchieCat   Apr-13-08 08:55 PM   #40 
  - Makes me think there's truth to the rumor that Gore is endorsing Obama soon.  Kber   Apr-13-08 09:01 PM   #44 
  - I've been hearing that since December  leftynyc   Apr-14-08 02:10 PM   #106 
  - I CANT BELIEVE SHE SLAMMED GORE!!  quantass   Apr-13-08 09:10 PM   #53 
  - Where did she slam Gore?  leftynyc   Apr-14-08 02:13 PM   #107 
  - Disgusting!  usregimechange   Apr-13-08 09:13 PM   #56 
  - IT  symbolman   Apr-13-08 09:17 PM   #61 
  - oooooooooooooooooh  Lisa0825   Apr-13-08 09:19 PM   #64 
  - The Clintons would discard everything great and good with the Democratic party  tabasco   Apr-13-08 09:22 PM   #66 
  - I guess that goes for primary nominations, as well.  BullGooseLoony   Apr-13-08 09:26 PM   #67 
  - It's just a sham superdelegate argument that she should have kept to herself  BeyondGeography   Apr-13-08 09:32 PM   #75 
  - If he did it now he could  leftynyc   Apr-14-08 02:14 PM   #108 
  - I can't see how any DUer can support her after tonight  nomad1776   Apr-13-08 09:33 PM   #77 
  - The same way many Supported Clinton before in my view.  Zachstar   Apr-13-08 09:55 PM   #87 
     - In all fairness Hillary is more like a republican than a democrat  nomad1776   Apr-13-08 09:58 PM   #90 
        - Their choice but it will not stop the many states that In my view will turn Blue this fall.  Zachstar   Apr-13-08 10:22 PM   #92 
  - Maybe if her and Bill stood up for the Democratic voters instead of their deafening silence  mod mom   Apr-13-08 09:36 PM   #78 
  - She's right and she's wrong  FlyingSquirrel   Apr-13-08 09:43 PM   #80 
  - VIDEO HERE:  mod mom   Apr-13-08 09:45 PM   #81 
  - Well he didn't win people  Jennos20   Apr-13-08 09:52 PM   #84 
  - I am not brave enough to say what needs to be said about Hillary, you did, and most thinking people  IsItJustMe   Apr-13-08 09:54 PM   #85 
  - Al Gore lost because he was saddled with Bill Clinton's indiscretions  dkf   Apr-13-08 09:56 PM   #88 
  - Wait! Gore was President in 2000?  Jennos20   Apr-13-08 09:57 PM   #89 
  - He was the elected president of the United States.  Zachstar   Apr-13-08 10:34 PM   #94 
  - She trashed San Francisco AND LIED about her role as First Lady in Romania  zulchzulu   Apr-13-08 10:35 PM   #95 
  - Why are you so upset?  leftynyc   Apr-14-08 01:56 PM   #98 
  - hmmm, makes me wonder if there was and 'uncomfortable' call  Whisp   Apr-14-08 01:59 PM   #101 
  - Gore is quickly becoming 'the present'  knixphan   Apr-14-08 02:00 PM   #102 
  - it was that close only because he was painted as elite and out of touch by Repubs  Texas Hill Country   Apr-14-08 02:32 PM   #109 

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