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northzax Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-12-08 09:57 PM
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96. yes, this is about winning.
why would you expect anything less? Ask al gore or john Kerry whether actually winning was important. This is a zero sum game, you don't get a nice ribbon for second place. anyone who uses the line 'win at all costs' need to remember that we have had exactly one democrat win two terms since harry fucking Truman. And that was a guy willing to play rough to win. This is not a child's game, playing nice turns you into a jeopardy answer. Playing nice gives you president mccain.
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  -Tom Vilsack gets it, just like John Edwards did. Too bad the latte crowd behind Obama doesn't jackson_dem  Apr-12-08 06:43 PM   #0 
  - The "latte crowd"? You are proud of using Rove catch phrases against Democrats? n/t  PoliticalAmazon   Apr-12-08 06:45 PM   #1 
  - I am a member of the "latte crowd". There is a class schism in our party.  jackson_dem   Apr-12-08 06:46 PM   # 
  - That is rich.  sellitman   Apr-12-08 06:53 PM   #18 
  - FDR was a rich New Yorker. Was he condescending toward working folks?  jackson_dem   Apr-12-08 06:54 PM   #19 
  - Well, one could make a strong argument that FDR and RFK were ridiculously wealthy....  VolcanoJen   Apr-12-08 07:01 PM   #34 
  - FDR, RFK, & HRC...  dchill   Apr-12-08 10:21 PM   #99 
  - No, they told the truth. So did Barack.  faygokid   Apr-12-08 07:04 PM   #39 
  - yes, this is about winning.  northzax   Apr-12-08 09:57 PM   #96 
     - fuck the win at all costs shit. if that means becoming the enemy then  roguevalley   Apr-12-08 11:22 PM   #108 
        - maybe he can  northzax   Apr-13-08 01:25 PM   #122 
  - One thing is for sure  JoFerret   Apr-13-08 05:29 PM   #132 
  - self delete  JoFerret   Apr-13-08 05:29 PM   #133 
  - No they weren't, but it is looking like Obigot is.  Craftsman   Apr-14-08 10:04 AM   #148 
  - As a hunter AND a heavily armed latte liberal I think Hillary's  cliffordu   Apr-12-08 08:18 PM   #79 
     - The poll numbers are going to show you who's behind is getting bitten.  Hoof Hearted   Apr-13-08 07:49 PM   #136 
  - I make $30,000 a year. I'm filthy rich! Woohoo!  Blondiegrrl   Apr-12-08 11:16 PM   #104 
  - take it to the Hillaryforum group. maybe you can spew on Hannity  roguevalley   Apr-12-08 11:20 PM   #107 
  - JESUS H CHRIST RIGHT !!!  Cosmocat   Apr-13-08 08:09 AM   #121 
  - umm... My family and I are broke. thanks for being demeaning. nt  mckeown1128   Apr-13-08 01:35 PM   #124 
  - As opposed to Ms. $109 Million???  PatGund   Apr-13-08 02:24 PM   #131 
  - while there is a huge divide in the democratic party, the real issue is  Texas Hill Country   Apr-14-08 11:26 AM   #156 
  - i have seen BO folks here on DU use it. Who said it was Rove thingy?? It  rodeodance   Apr-12-08 06:49 PM   #10 
  - It's ok to make fun of "latte liberals" but you'd better never call Reagan Democrats bitter  VolcanoJen   Apr-12-08 06:59 PM   #29 
  - Barack Obama WON IOWA  JI7   Apr-12-08 06:45 PM   #2 
  - That was before he was exposed as a bigot  jackson_dem   Apr-12-08 06:47 PM   #6 
  - the word "bigot" is your mantra..are you Sean Hannity, or just someone who agrees with him?  virtualobserver   Apr-12-08 06:51 PM   #13 
  - Being prejudiced against people because of who they are is not bigoted?  jackson_dem   Apr-12-08 06:52 PM   #15 
  - I have the misfortune of hearing hannity when I visit my dad every day  virtualobserver   Apr-12-08 06:57 PM   #23 
  - The biggest differnence between Obigot and the Klan is what they do to their bed linens  Craftsman   Apr-14-08 10:13 AM   #152 
  - Vilack is a bigot? I am sure you don't mean Barack.  MidwestTransplant   Apr-12-08 06:52 PM   #14 
  - What polling has been done since he was exposed as a bigot?  jackson_dem   Apr-12-08 06:57 PM   #24 
     - I don't think he was exposed as a bigot but if you are talking about mid March, about 30 days of  MidwestTransplant   Apr-12-08 07:03 PM   #37 
        - His small town comments were yesterday. Let's wait and see what happens  jackson_dem   Apr-12-08 07:11 PM   #52 
  - bigot. that's rich  fishwax   Apr-12-08 06:58 PM   # 
  - You use the word bigot and you use Jackson as your moniker  gabeana   Apr-12-08 07:20 PM   #65 
  - THANK YOU. That bugs me that anyone would uphold him as some sort of hero. eom  Blondiegrrl   Apr-12-08 11:19 PM   #106 
  - "That was before he was exposed as a bigot" really? post the link where he said he hates honkies  rosebud57   Apr-12-08 08:29 PM   #84 
  - you are exactly what you claim Obama is  cali   Apr-13-08 04:57 AM   #112 
  - And not by popular vote did he win either.  JoFerret   Apr-14-08 07:16 AM   #138 
  - with over $400,000 in debt that the Clinton camp promised to make disappear  Debi   Apr-13-08 01:46 PM   #128 
  - What the fuck is a "latte crowd"?  impeachdubya   Apr-12-08 06:45 PM   #3 
  - seems you do  rodeodance   Apr-12-08 06:50 PM   # 
  - It's now the Arugula crowd. Get with the program man!  tridim   Apr-12-08 06:56 PM   #20 
  - Mmm, I LOVE Arugula.  DangerousRhythm   Apr-12-08 07:13 PM   #55 
     - Grows wild and rustically all over sounthern Italy  JoFerret   Apr-13-08 01:37 PM   #125 
        - Wow, so...  DangerousRhythm   Apr-14-08 09:47 AM   #139 
  - The newspaper's going to tell me what a "latte crowd" is?  impeachdubya   Apr-12-08 06:58 PM   #27 
     - Its the Obama Starbuck's crowd--although  rodeodance   Apr-12-08 07:01 PM   #33 
        - I'm sorry, you keep throwing out these little loaded key phrases as if they mean something.  impeachdubya   Apr-12-08 07:04 PM   #41 
           - There are various groups of voters. Obama understands it. He is the affluent voters choice  jackson_dem   Apr-12-08 07:19 PM   #63 
              - I'm confused about this "Starbucks" thing. Hillary Clinton sat on the Corporate Board of Wal-Mart...  impeachdubya   Apr-12-08 07:31 PM   #71 
              - you are confused about a lot of things. Comes from living in the past.  rodeodance   Apr-12-08 08:41 PM   #86 
                 - Amazing how you can make 14 words say absolutely nothing.  impeachdubya   Apr-12-08 11:05 PM   #101 
                    - stupid is as stupid does  cali   Apr-13-08 05:00 AM   #113 
                       - name calling, personal attack, and ridicule.  cornermouse   Apr-13-08 05:24 AM   #115 
                          - I singled out no one.  cali   Apr-13-08 05:27 AM   #116 
                          - Why Cali?  cornermouse   Apr-13-08 05:37 AM   #117 
                             - what?  cali   Apr-13-08 05:54 AM   #119 
                          - Name calling? Like, say, "latte crowd"?  impeachdubya   Apr-13-08 05:45 AM   #118 
              - He does seem to own the young affluent crowd  JoFerret   Apr-13-08 01:39 PM   #126 
              - Slice and dice the voters  JoFerret   Apr-14-08 05:02 AM   #137 
  - It's what some HRC assholes call Obama supporters  Catherina   Apr-13-08 05:09 AM   #114 
  - I truly believe the Clinton have hired Rove. I know Bill admired his work in '04.  Diane R   Apr-12-08 06:46 PM   #4 
  - I love this photo of Obama clapping Rove's shoulder--both smiling:  rodeodance   Apr-12-08 07:00 PM   #32 
  - I see a dialog balloon over Obama's head...  Cassandra   Apr-12-08 07:10 PM   #49 
  - And they are engaging in a delightful converstion...not just standing  Auntie Bush   Apr-12-08 07:32 PM   #72 
  - LOL - guess you missed this  merh   Apr-12-08 09:52 PM   #95 
  - If so, Rove should share his salary with Obama for making his job so easy.(eom)  oasis   Apr-12-08 11:18 PM   #105 
  - Tom Vilsack is a big D Democrat.  MethuenProgressive   Apr-12-08 06:46 PM   #5 
  - Vilsack is a big DLC democrat...  Cassandra   Apr-12-08 06:57 PM   #25 
  - Guess who has more DLC support? Hint: not Clinton  jackson_dem   Apr-12-08 06:59 PM   #30 
     - Clinton's campaign staff,  Cassandra   Apr-12-08 07:04 PM   #43 
     - Oh. So "the DLC" can't even control its members?  jackson_dem   Apr-12-08 07:12 PM   #54 
     - uh... you sure about that?  parasim   Apr-12-08 07:36 PM   #73 
  - Whose very white, comparatively old state went massively for Obama n/t  eridani   Apr-13-08 04:53 AM   #111 
  - You need to look at this post. This has nothing to do with latte  pinkpops   Apr-12-08 06:48 PM   #7 
  - The Hillary people are grasping at straws and reading so much more  Vinca   Apr-12-08 06:48 PM   # 
  - Obama's internet flock stuffs the ballot box online like Paulites  jackson_dem   Apr-12-08 06:50 PM   #12 
     - You're seeing what you want to see and nothing will change your mind. nt  Vinca   Apr-12-08 07:02 PM   #35 
     - BO has had this condescending attitude towards the working class since the start. Its his problem.  rodeodance   Apr-12-08 10:18 PM   #98 
     - the real "condescending attitude" comes from the Hillary crowd.....  virtualobserver   Apr-12-08 07:03 PM   #38 
  - latte crowd? Enough of your crap jackson_dem welcome to my ignore list.  Zachstar   Apr-12-08 06:48 PM   #8 
  - Andrew Jackson:  pinkpops   Apr-12-08 06:52 PM   #17 
     - Damn. So Barack Obama must endorse that bad part about Jackson!  jackson_dem   Apr-12-08 06:56 PM   #21 
        - Jackson was Human and imperfect like all the rest of us  pinkpops   Apr-12-08 07:04 PM   #40 
           - I admit it. I am Barack Obama. How did you figure it out?  jackson_dem   Apr-12-08 07:09 PM   #48 
           - There's "human imperfection"  Moochy   Apr-14-08 10:04 AM   #147 
  - that really makes me lose respect for Vilsack  virtualobserver   Apr-12-08 06:48 PM   #9 
  - Tom Vilsack gets it that HRC is his only ticket out  grantcart   Apr-12-08 06:49 PM   #11 
  - "Latte crowd"?  anonymous171   Apr-12-08 06:52 PM   #16 
  - "Latte drinking, brie eating, dope smoking, tree hugging..."  DefenseLawyer   Apr-12-08 06:57 PM   #22 
  - There is a class divide in our party. It is the affluent who are with Obama  jackson_dem   Apr-12-08 06:58 PM   #28 
  - "Working folks are with Clinton." You mean, like Lobbyists? I guess Lobbying is "work".  impeachdubya   Apr-12-08 07:03 PM   #36 
  - I mean exit polls. Obama does better the more income people have. Just like a rethug  jackson_dem   Apr-12-08 07:10 PM   #51 
     - And bipedal carbon based life forms on planet Earth support him, just as they supported Hitler.  impeachdubya   Apr-12-08 07:21 PM   #66 
  - You can shove your sweeping generalizations.  VolcanoJen   Apr-12-08 07:06 PM   #44 
  - Sean Hannity was cloned and this is the result  virtualobserver   Apr-12-08 07:10 PM   # 
     - Clearly.  VolcanoJen   Apr-12-08 07:16 PM   #59 
  - Yeah, those black voters in Mississippi love their lattes.  faygokid   Apr-12-08 07:06 PM   #45 
  - That is the difference between Obama and Dean (and Bradley)  jackson_dem   Apr-12-08 07:14 PM   #56 
     - Maybe Obama realized a parade wave and a smile from the spot where Dr King died  proud2Blib   Apr-13-08 01:54 PM   #130 
  - in reality- Hillary is trying to create one for her own benefit. She's a class divider, not a uniter  virtualobserver   Apr-12-08 07:08 PM   #46 
  - You are helping to CREATE a class divide, where none exists  DefenseLawyer   Apr-12-08 07:10 PM   #50 
  - Sparky, you need to get the facts. The popular vote margin is 2.6% excluding FL and MI  jackson_dem   Apr-12-08 07:17 PM   #60 
     - So you're saying it is 50/50 and 50% of Democrats are "affluent"  DefenseLawyer   Apr-12-08 07:27 PM   #68 
  - I am a working folk and I am not with Clinton...  MN Against Bush   Apr-12-08 08:09 PM   #74 
  - I don't drink latte, but I eat brie sometimes and many years ago I used to smoke pot. As for  Seabiscuit   Apr-12-08 11:12 PM   #103 
     - That must have been some powerful weed  DefenseLawyer   Apr-14-08 10:09 AM   #150 
        - That must be some powerful  Seabiscuit   Apr-14-08 11:28 AM   #157 
           - Easy now.  DefenseLawyer   Apr-14-08 11:35 AM   #159 
              - Please read the warnings on the label  Seabiscuit   Apr-14-08 02:50 PM   #160 
                 - Can you get back to talking about how you make your own coffee?  DefenseLawyer   Apr-14-08 04:28 PM   #161 
                    - Sure. Here 'ya go:  Seabiscuit   Apr-14-08 05:12 PM   #163 
                       - Excellent  DefenseLawyer   Apr-14-08 05:19 PM   #164 
                          - Alrighty. Got cheese?  Seabiscuit   Apr-14-08 05:26 PM   #165 
  - Vilsack doesn't seem to get it at all  fishwax   Apr-12-08 06:58 PM   #26 
  - Yeah and Trent Lott didn't "say" he believed in segregation either. It was implied  jackson_dem   Apr-12-08 06:59 PM   #31 
     - it's only implied if you have an agenda and are looking for something that's not there  datopbanana   Apr-12-08 07:04 PM   #42 
     - I don't see the connection  fishwax   Apr-12-08 07:14 PM   #57 
  - ok, I gave you guys a week's amnesty, but I see you're not improving your game  Lerkfish   Apr-12-08 07:09 PM   #47 
  - I don't agree with the interpretation of what Obama meant  Clovis Sangrail   Apr-12-08 07:11 PM   #53 
  - Latte crowd? What an absolutely breathtakingly stupid wedge  nichomachus   Apr-12-08 07:15 PM   #58 
  - having Dem in your name doesn't force you to behave like one  virtualobserver   Apr-12-08 07:18 PM   #61 
  - Wedge? This from a supporter of a candidate who uses homophobi, ageism, and racism to win  jackson_dem   Apr-12-08 07:18 PM   #62 
     - your posts would be funnier if they were less insane  virtualobserver   Apr-12-08 07:20 PM   #64 
     - Yeah. Insane posts can be funny for a while, but there's a steep drop-off.  impeachdubya   Apr-12-08 11:09 PM   #102 
     - I don't follow you  nichomachus   Apr-12-08 07:24 PM   #67 
     - Vilsack, Jackson?  Condem   Apr-12-08 07:30 PM   #69 
     - So you admit it's a wedge eh Wedgey boy?  Moochy   Apr-14-08 09:51 AM   #142 
  - I am not part of the "latte crowd" and am an Obama supporter;  grannylib   Apr-12-08 07:30 PM   #70 
  - people are pissed at the Bush governement and hillary is apologizing for Bush  bambino   Apr-12-08 08:11 PM   #75 
  - Don't use the words Vilsack and Edwards in the same sentence.  Inspired   Apr-12-08 08:13 PM   #76 
  - notice again... obama bashers and haters can only quote...  TLM   Apr-12-08 08:15 PM   #77 
  - it`s difficult to understand complex ideas...  madrchsod   Apr-12-08 08:20 PM   #80 
  - Vilsack - past chairman of the DLC (aka - Republican wing of the Democratic Party) 'nuff said.  Tierra_y_Libertad   Apr-12-08 08:17 PM   #78 
  - Vilsack = DLC hack  TML   Apr-12-08 08:23 PM   #81 
  - I'll tell you something, TML  Condem   Apr-12-08 08:26 PM   #83 
     - I'll tell you something  TML   Apr-12-08 09:31 PM   #87 
     - Deleted message  Name removed   Apr-12-08 09:34 PM   #88 
        - Thanks for the personal attack  TML   Apr-12-08 09:37 PM   #89 
           - Sorry, TML- My bad.  Condem   Apr-12-08 09:38 PM   #90 
              - No worries  TML   Apr-12-08 09:40 PM   #91 
                 - Thanks, TML  Condem   Apr-12-08 09:41 PM   #92 
     - That cracks me up. She made a snide comment once about Elizabeth.  Inspired   Apr-13-08 08:04 AM   #120 
  - what has edwards said about this issue?  madrchsod   Apr-12-08 08:24 PM   #82 
  - Oh for heaven's sake, enough with the latte silliness. n/t  myrna minx   Apr-12-08 08:29 PM   #85 
  - Very good article - Obama is out of touch with a majority of Americans  GoldieAZ49   Apr-12-08 09:44 PM   #93 
  - And how do the majority of Americans think, Goldie?  Condem   Apr-12-08 09:45 PM   #94 
  - Carter/Gore PLEASE take her away!!! Her supporters have become Republicans.  kwenu   Apr-12-08 10:17 PM   #97 
  - Carter? Carter is a political waste of space. He and Dubya just need to stay out of politics.  Texas Hill Country   Apr-14-08 10:12 AM   #151 
  - So how is Hillary gonna win the GE if she pisses off the latte liberals?  PerfectSage   Apr-12-08 10:22 PM   #100 
  - You can pry my latte  Mz Pip   Apr-12-08 11:31 PM   #109 
  - I am a Obama supporter and I resent being classified as a latte drinker.  wisteria   Apr-12-08 11:53 PM   #110 
  - Yea Tom Vilsack, his presidential campaign lasted all of 5 days  Hippo_Tron   Apr-13-08 01:32 PM   #123 
  - What Tom Vilsack got was his campaign debt paid off by Clinton supporters  Debi   Apr-13-08 01:42 PM   #127 
  - Well I drink lattes  proud2Blib   Apr-13-08 01:47 PM   #129 
  - You assume this bot has wetware in it  Moochy   Apr-14-08 09:49 AM   #141 
  - Y'know.  yibbehobba   Apr-13-08 05:31 PM   #134 
  - Watch this video, he was right before anyone said he was wrong  bigbrother05   Apr-13-08 05:39 PM   #135 
  - Thank you so much for the video.....I wish his campaign would use it ....  Tippy   Apr-14-08 10:06 AM   #149 
  - I want to throw a triple Latte at you  Moochy   Apr-14-08 09:48 AM   #140 
  - "Latte crowd" lol  IAmJacksSmirkingRevenge   Apr-14-08 09:52 AM   #143 
  - I do not like latte  bluestateguy   Apr-14-08 09:53 AM   #144 
  - K&R  cricket08   Apr-14-08 09:56 AM   #145 
  - "The Latte Crowd"  BlueDogDemocratNH   Apr-14-08 10:02 AM   #146 
  - A plea to posters here  JasonHill   Apr-14-08 10:19 AM   #153 
  - I agree. Using republican frames against dems is bad for business.  smiley_glad_hands   Apr-14-08 10:24 AM   #155 
  - Still throwing progressives under the bus? eom  smiley_glad_hands   Apr-14-08 10:21 AM   #154 
  - I do not consider many of the BO fans progressive.  rodeodance   Apr-14-08 11:31 AM   #158 
  - I'll have to  FlaGranny   Apr-14-08 04:31 PM   #162 
  - Are the "latte crowd" those folks who lump other folks together in Republican stereotypes?  Orsino   Apr-14-08 05:37 PM   #166 

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