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Fri Apr-11-08 05:50 PM
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| 107. Has anyone read "What's the Matter with Kansas?" |
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It tackles some of these issues.
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| -Obama on small-town PA: Clinging religion, guns, xenophobia |
jefferson_dem |
Apr-11-08 03:39 PM |
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If you read it n context, it's perfectly true ... sometimes the truth hurts |
LSparkle |
Apr-11-08 03:43 PM |
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Yup, the people that are outraged just skimmed over this article looking for that GOTCHA quote. |
NJSecularist |
Apr-11-08 03:45 PM |
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Its a load of BS |
OzarkDem |
Apr-11-08 03:58 PM |
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Here is an equally insightful reply: |
BushDespiser12 |
Apr-11-08 04:16 PM |
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And he thinks that w statement will make Penn vote for him? Gimme a break. |
saracat |
Apr-11-08 03:46 PM |
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McCain is not carrying Pennsylvania in the general. |
NJSecularist |
Apr-11-08 03:47 PM |
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Want to frigging bet? |
saracat |
Apr-11-08 03:54 PM |
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That's your opinion, but you are wrong. |
NJSecularist |
Apr-11-08 03:57 PM |
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Gore was an estblished figure with credibility. Obama is not,There is no comparison. |
saracat |
Apr-11-08 03:59 PM |
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It is not absurd. Pennsylvania is a state that trends Democratic. |
NJSecularist |
Apr-11-08 04:01 PM |
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Obama isn't the favorite in Pennsylvania. There isn't any justifcation for that statement at all. |
saracat |
Apr-11-08 04:18 PM |
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When is the last time a Republican won in Pennsylvania? |
NJSecularist |
Apr-11-08 04:22 PM |
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Bush in 2000, I believe |
AnnieBW |
Apr-11-08 06:08 PM |
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Nah, PA hasn't voted for the Repug on the Presidential level since Poppy Bush in '88 |
last_texas_dem |
Apr-11-08 06:17 PM |
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Okay, I'm probably mis-remembering |
AnnieBW |
Apr-12-08 09:14 AM |
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his statements sounds like straight talk to me. |
mkultra |
Apr-11-08 03:59 PM |
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yeah, I want to bet |
cali |
Apr-11-08 04:03 PM |
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Actually, I don't care. There is a difference cali. I am not "filled with hate" |
saracat |
Apr-11-08 04:16 PM |
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your posts indicate hate |
cali |
Apr-11-08 04:28 PM |
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And are you always so "loving' cali? The truth is, I really "don't' care anymore. |
saracat |
Apr-11-08 04:33 PM |
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You don't care if McCain becomes president? |
TheDoorbellRang |
Apr-11-08 05:26 PM |
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no, I'm not always so loving |
cali |
Apr-11-08 05:31 PM |
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Yeah, you do cali. |
cornermouse |
Apr-12-08 05:14 AM |
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Oh Cali, stop being such a hypocrite. |
Lirwin2 |
Apr-11-08 04:38 PM |
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baloney. |
cali |
Apr-11-08 05:28 PM |
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You really are something. |
thecatburgler |
Apr-11-08 04:36 PM |
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There is NOT going to be a draft no matter who is elected. And SCOTUS is a red |
saracat |
Apr-11-08 04:39 PM |
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Apr-11-08 04:48 PM |
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You are seriously rude and contemptuous of anyone with a different opinion. |
saracat |
Apr-11-08 04:50 PM |
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Apr-11-08 04:59 PM |
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You have no idea what my age is or what my situation is. |
saracat |
Apr-11-08 05:09 PM |
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I'm not insulting your physical state. I'm pointing out your selfishness. |
thecatburgler |
Apr-11-08 05:13 PM |
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You have no idea what my physical state is. And as I have spent a lot of time invested in the |
saracat |
Apr-11-08 05:37 PM |
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You champion reproductive rights by not caring about SCOTUS? |
thecatburgler |
Apr-11-08 07:46 PM |
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I am way more than a PC and I don't believe that Barack would pick better judges, He doesn't have |
saracat |
Apr-11-08 09:08 PM |
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You need to get off your fat Irish ass and smell the computer seat. |
golddigger |
Apr-11-08 05:10 PM |
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You need to go piss up a rope. |
thecatburgler |
Apr-11-08 05:23 PM |
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You could have made your point without insulting her. Don't like it aye. |
golddigger |
Apr-11-08 05:41 PM |
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She can make her point without endorsing McCain. |
thecatburgler |
Apr-11-08 07:39 PM |
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I do NOT endorse McCain. I just do NOT endorse Obama. |
saracat |
Apr-11-08 09:10 PM |
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You SAID you would write in a candidate instead of the DEMOCRATIC one. |
thecatburgler |
Apr-12-08 01:31 AM |
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I will support a Democrat. |
saracat |
Apr-12-08 02:36 AM |
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Why do you Obamawhiners always put your phony words into other peoples posts? |
mtnsnake |
Apr-11-08 09:59 PM |
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Ewww |
mtnsnake |
Apr-11-08 05:46 PM |
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and Obama will win the GE, and the world will go on. |
knixphan |
Apr-11-08 04:16 PM |
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Hello? PA is now majority Democratic in registration and rising... |
BumRushDaShow |
Apr-11-08 06:40 PM |
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Give us all a break and tell us exactly how he's wrong. |
jefferson_dem |
Apr-11-08 03:48 PM |
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And why would taht matter?Insulting people doesn't influence them to vote for you. |
saracat |
Apr-11-08 03:57 PM |
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I'm sorry. I honestly don't see how this is insulting to anybody. |
jefferson_dem |
Apr-11-08 04:03 PM |
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jefferson, he is basically called them small-minded bigots |
jackson_dem |
Apr-11-08 04:15 PM |
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Bullshit. You are calling them small-minded bigots. |
jefferson_dem |
Apr-11-08 04:21 PM |
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In some cases it is but that is 1) neither here nor there 2) not the case for all |
jackson_dem |
Apr-11-08 04:26 PM |
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Oh please. He was not belittling anybody much less an "entire segment of the population." |
jefferson_dem |
Apr-11-08 04:37 PM |
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Calling small town folk a bunch of bigots isn't belittling? |
jackson_dem |
Apr-11-08 05:46 PM |
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No, it was HRC's best friend, PA Gov. Rendell, who specifically called Pennsylvanians racist |
Divernan |
Apr-11-08 04:21 PM |
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Rendell isn't running in the PA primary. If he were he would pay a price for it |
jackson_dem |
Apr-11-08 04:22 PM |
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Remember when he supposedly insulted rural Iowans? |
WesDem |
Apr-11-08 04:23 PM |
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What did he say? Did the msm cover it? |
jackson_dem |
Apr-11-08 05:45 PM |
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I don't know |
SurfingAtWork |
Apr-11-08 03:50 PM |
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You mean, pandering like he did when he invited McClurkin to SC? |
dbaker41 |
Apr-11-08 04:51 PM |
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McCain doesn't know the difference between Iran and Al Qaeda |
thecatburgler |
Apr-11-08 04:34 PM |
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He didn't make the statement to win Penn. He made it because it's the truth. |
faygokid |
Apr-11-08 06:18 PM |
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Obama is talking down about these people |
DemGa |
Apr-11-08 03:47 PM |
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To speak the honestly about rampant unemployment and how economic hardship breeds frustration ... |
jefferson_dem |
Apr-11-08 03:53 PM |
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He's not condescending at all. |
knixphan |
Apr-11-08 04:18 PM |
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I don't agree |
dbmk |
Apr-11-08 05:02 PM |
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Speaking truth to power |
WesDem |
Apr-11-08 03:48 PM |
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Speaking truth to power? HARDLY! |
dbaker41 |
Apr-11-08 04:54 PM |
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You get a clue |
WesDem |
Apr-11-08 05:54 PM |
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yes, truth/power. |
knixphan |
Apr-11-08 05:57 PM |
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-dupe delete- |
knixphan |
Apr-11-08 05:59 PM |
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It's absolutely true |
alcibiades_mystery |
Apr-11-08 03:51 PM |
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Context, apparently, is a thing of the past. |
Walter Sobchak |
Apr-11-08 03:51 PM |
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well. ...... |
rodeodance |
Apr-11-08 06:05 PM |
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He's making blanket judgements about people he doesn't know |
OzarkDem |
Apr-11-08 03:56 PM |
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So you're saying widespread joblessness has no overall ramifications? |
NYCGirl |
Apr-11-08 03:58 PM |
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His comments weren't about joblessness |
OzarkDem |
Apr-11-08 04:00 PM |
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So how do you explain "You go into these small towns in Pennsylvania and, |
NYCGirl |
Apr-11-08 04:01 PM |
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OzarkDem also thinks Obama's a Muslim. |
Starbucks Anarchist |
Apr-11-08 05:49 PM |
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STOP LYING |
rodeodance |
Apr-11-08 06:06 PM |
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I'm not. |
Starbucks Anarchist |
Apr-11-08 06:39 PM |
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Obama insults the people who live in these towns |
OzarkDem |
Apr-11-08 07:25 PM |
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"You go into these small towns in PA and, like a lot of small towns in the Midwest, the jobs..." |
jefferson_dem |
Apr-11-08 04:02 PM |
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Your projecting your own insecurities again. |
jefferson_dem |
Apr-11-08 04:00 PM |
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no. you are sick |
cali |
Apr-11-08 04:06 PM |
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Yes, he's calling them racist and xenophobic -- but he "understands" |
DemGa |
Apr-11-08 04:14 PM |
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Bush lacks the vocabulary to make those sentences. |
knixphan |
Apr-11-08 04:19 PM |
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I live in small town PA and this is on the money |
Marnieworld |
Apr-11-08 04:02 PM |
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I live in small town PA too |
Lannigan |
Apr-11-08 05:05 PM |
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I said that it's not like this in the valley |
Marnieworld |
Apr-11-08 08:11 PM |
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It's true. |
Not the Only One |
Apr-11-08 04:10 PM |
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exactly. |
knixphan |
Apr-11-08 04:20 PM |
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Excellently stated - you have an acute grasp of the situation. |
Divernan |
Apr-11-08 04:50 PM |
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oh no....I feel another POUTRAGE a'comin.... n/t |
Cheap_Trick |
Apr-11-08 04:12 PM |
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Trust me, this is going to hurt Obama politically |
UALRBSofL |
Apr-11-08 04:13 PM |
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They don't consider pregnancy a problem? |
thecatburgler |
Apr-11-08 04:38 PM |
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Obama isn't anti-gun or anti-religion. I do think many people consider pregnancy in young |
Pirate Smile |
Apr-11-08 05:02 PM |
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Sad, jefferson. What would Jefferson say about you applauding O talking down to common folk? |
jackson_dem |
Apr-11-08 04:14 PM |
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What would Jackson say about you not being honest about the challenges of economic hardship? |
jefferson_dem |
Apr-11-08 04:19 PM |
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Obama started well, but ended badly. |
dbaker41 |
Apr-11-08 04:59 PM |
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He would say focus on those responsible: the corporate actors, don't diss the people |
jackson_dem |
Apr-11-08 05:36 PM |
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His speech "showcased Obama's core decency and high measure of regard for each individual." |
Divernan |
Apr-11-08 04:18 PM |
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This coming from the "Unity" candidate. |
2rth2pwr |
Apr-11-08 04:20 PM |
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Funny? How so? |
BushDespiser12 |
Apr-11-08 04:32 PM |
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yes, he will |
rodeodance |
Apr-11-08 08:33 PM |
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San Francisco. |
knixphan |
Apr-11-08 04:21 PM |
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HE IS CORRECT!! Give me a rational reason to disagree that looks at socio-economic reasons please. |
futureliveshere |
Apr-11-08 04:21 PM |
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listen to futureliveshere. |
knixphan |
Apr-11-08 04:27 PM |
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Thanks knixphan.. You inspired me to put up a post.. You share the inspiration with GWB though |
futureliveshere |
Apr-11-08 05:26 PM |
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wow! |
knixphan |
Apr-11-08 05:44 PM |
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It requires a minimum level of common sense, life experience & education to approve Obama's commets |
Divernan |
Apr-11-08 04:35 PM |
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It's exactly what What's The Matter With Kansas was about. |
thecatburgler |
Apr-11-08 04:49 PM |
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It is true. What's the big deal? |
SoonerPride |
Apr-11-08 04:29 PM |
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It is true...and only a big deal to those who are offended at being "outed" by Obama's honesty... |
jefferson_dem |
Apr-11-08 04:43 PM |
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I think that statement is 100% accurate.... |
aaaaaa5a |
Apr-11-08 04:33 PM |
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gonna look for that book! |
knixphan |
Apr-11-08 04:49 PM |
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is there video or just second hand text? |
biggerfishsmallpond |
Apr-11-08 04:33 PM |
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Here is a transcript |
WesDem |
Apr-11-08 06:29 PM |
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This must be the first time in the history of the country |
Vinca |
Apr-11-08 04:34 PM |
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BO's snide remarks about gun owners destroys his recent efforts to cozy up to them. BO is a |
jody |
Apr-11-08 04:39 PM |
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his message to them sounded really full of |
ExtraGriz |
Apr-11-08 04:46 PM |
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When will Obama's camp come out with damage control? |
UALRBSofL |
Apr-11-08 04:49 PM |
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From the author of the linked cite:His speech "showcased Obama's core decency and high measure |
Divernan |
Apr-11-08 04:55 PM |
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Well.. |
dbmk |
Apr-11-08 05:22 PM |
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So, what type of folks are most likely to be 'offended' by this type of truth? |
knixphan |
Apr-11-08 04:52 PM |
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He was doing alright until he breezily |
spoony |
Apr-11-08 05:04 PM |
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Well, well well, Sigmund Obama. His "big therapy couch" approach. |
Neshanic |
Apr-11-08 05:10 PM |
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Apr-11-08 05:21 PM |
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Being a knuckle-dragging sludge-lover is a "human thing"? |
jefferson_dem |
Apr-11-08 05:50 PM |
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More like a Hillary supporter thing. We don't understand but we know you're desperate. |
kwenu |
Apr-11-08 05:55 PM |
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Why is it that In Pennsylvania |
Bluenorthwest |
Apr-11-08 05:23 PM |
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If there is video of that, it could be added to this one- |
2rth2pwr |
Apr-11-08 05:27 PM |
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Has anyone read "What's the Matter with Kansas?" |
Starbucks Anarchist |
Apr-11-08 05:50 PM |
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Wedge Issues |
eek MD |
Apr-11-08 05:51 PM |
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Damn. They have audio of it. Tune into CNN now |
jackson_dem |
Apr-11-08 06:01 PM |
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There is too much honesty in those comments for them to be helpful |
last_texas_dem |
Apr-11-08 06:12 PM |
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As a response to Clinton's bashing, Obama now can do a big speech on trade and NAFTA |
zulchzulu |
Apr-11-08 06:15 PM |
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der |
sueragingroz |
Apr-11-08 06:17 PM |
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der? What the hell is that? |
faygokid |
Apr-11-08 06:21 PM |
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Obama is absolutely correct, alot of people |
Hawaii Hiker |
Apr-11-08 06:47 PM |
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elite what a joke |
monicaaida |
Apr-11-08 06:49 PM |
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I find no documentation for him ever working as a stock broker. |
Divernan |
Apr-12-08 05:22 AM |
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sorry as much as I still support obama |
formernaderite |
Apr-11-08 07:58 PM |
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Serious mistake by Obama. |
cornermouse |
Apr-11-08 08:12 PM |
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The people he "insulted" have been voting Repug for 2 decades..... |
scheming daemons |
Apr-11-08 10:05 PM |
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For one thing, Obama has made the crossover vote a big |
cornermouse |
Apr-12-08 05:04 AM |
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The issue is that even though what he says may be true |
Blue_State_Elitist |
Apr-12-08 02:40 AM |
#142 |