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Fri Apr-11-08 04:26 PM
Response to Reply #45 |
| 52. In some cases it is but that is 1) neither here nor there 2) not the case for all |
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Edited on Fri Apr-11-08 04:26 PM by jackson_dem
O painted with a very broad brush. Most people in small towns are good folks just like those who sip lattes in Chicago mansions. Moreover, just because something is true (which Obama's statement isn't) does not mean it is bigoted.
A true "unity" candidate would never make such a bigoted statement belitting an entire segment of the population.
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| -Obama on small-town PA: Clinging religion, guns, xenophobia |
jefferson_dem |
Apr-11-08 03:39 PM |
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If you read it n context, it's perfectly true ... sometimes the truth hurts |
LSparkle |
Apr-11-08 03:43 PM |
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Yup, the people that are outraged just skimmed over this article looking for that GOTCHA quote. |
NJSecularist |
Apr-11-08 03:45 PM |
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Its a load of BS |
OzarkDem |
Apr-11-08 03:58 PM |
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Here is an equally insightful reply: |
BushDespiser12 |
Apr-11-08 04:16 PM |
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And he thinks that w statement will make Penn vote for him? Gimme a break. |
saracat |
Apr-11-08 03:46 PM |
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McCain is not carrying Pennsylvania in the general. |
NJSecularist |
Apr-11-08 03:47 PM |
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Want to frigging bet? |
saracat |
Apr-11-08 03:54 PM |
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That's your opinion, but you are wrong. |
NJSecularist |
Apr-11-08 03:57 PM |
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Gore was an estblished figure with credibility. Obama is not,There is no comparison. |
saracat |
Apr-11-08 03:59 PM |
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It is not absurd. Pennsylvania is a state that trends Democratic. |
NJSecularist |
Apr-11-08 04:01 PM |
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Obama isn't the favorite in Pennsylvania. There isn't any justifcation for that statement at all. |
saracat |
Apr-11-08 04:18 PM |
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When is the last time a Republican won in Pennsylvania? |
NJSecularist |
Apr-11-08 04:22 PM |
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Bush in 2000, I believe |
AnnieBW |
Apr-11-08 06:08 PM |
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Nah, PA hasn't voted for the Repug on the Presidential level since Poppy Bush in '88 |
last_texas_dem |
Apr-11-08 06:17 PM |
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Okay, I'm probably mis-remembering |
AnnieBW |
Apr-12-08 09:14 AM |
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his statements sounds like straight talk to me. |
mkultra |
Apr-11-08 03:59 PM |
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yeah, I want to bet |
cali |
Apr-11-08 04:03 PM |
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Actually, I don't care. There is a difference cali. I am not "filled with hate" |
saracat |
Apr-11-08 04:16 PM |
#36 |
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your posts indicate hate |
cali |
Apr-11-08 04:28 PM |
#54 |
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And are you always so "loving' cali? The truth is, I really "don't' care anymore. |
saracat |
Apr-11-08 04:33 PM |
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You don't care if McCain becomes president? |
TheDoorbellRang |
Apr-11-08 05:26 PM |
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no, I'm not always so loving |
cali |
Apr-11-08 05:31 PM |
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Yeah, you do cali. |
cornermouse |
Apr-12-08 05:14 AM |
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Oh Cali, stop being such a hypocrite. |
Lirwin2 |
Apr-11-08 04:38 PM |
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baloney. |
cali |
Apr-11-08 05:28 PM |
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You really are something. |
thecatburgler |
Apr-11-08 04:36 PM |
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There is NOT going to be a draft no matter who is elected. And SCOTUS is a red |
saracat |
Apr-11-08 04:39 PM |
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Apr-11-08 04:48 PM |
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You are seriously rude and contemptuous of anyone with a different opinion. |
saracat |
Apr-11-08 04:50 PM |
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Name removed |
Apr-11-08 04:59 PM |
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You have no idea what my age is or what my situation is. |
saracat |
Apr-11-08 05:09 PM |
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I'm not insulting your physical state. I'm pointing out your selfishness. |
thecatburgler |
Apr-11-08 05:13 PM |
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You have no idea what my physical state is. And as I have spent a lot of time invested in the |
saracat |
Apr-11-08 05:37 PM |
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You champion reproductive rights by not caring about SCOTUS? |
thecatburgler |
Apr-11-08 07:46 PM |
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I am way more than a PC and I don't believe that Barack would pick better judges, He doesn't have |
saracat |
Apr-11-08 09:08 PM |
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You need to get off your fat Irish ass and smell the computer seat. |
golddigger |
Apr-11-08 05:10 PM |
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You need to go piss up a rope. |
thecatburgler |
Apr-11-08 05:23 PM |
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You could have made your point without insulting her. Don't like it aye. |
golddigger |
Apr-11-08 05:41 PM |
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She can make her point without endorsing McCain. |
thecatburgler |
Apr-11-08 07:39 PM |
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I do NOT endorse McCain. I just do NOT endorse Obama. |
saracat |
Apr-11-08 09:10 PM |
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You SAID you would write in a candidate instead of the DEMOCRATIC one. |
thecatburgler |
Apr-12-08 01:31 AM |
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I will support a Democrat. |
saracat |
Apr-12-08 02:36 AM |
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Why do you Obamawhiners always put your phony words into other peoples posts? |
mtnsnake |
Apr-11-08 09:59 PM |
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Ewww |
mtnsnake |
Apr-11-08 05:46 PM |
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and Obama will win the GE, and the world will go on. |
knixphan |
Apr-11-08 04:16 PM |
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Hello? PA is now majority Democratic in registration and rising... |
BumRushDaShow |
Apr-11-08 06:40 PM |
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Give us all a break and tell us exactly how he's wrong. |
jefferson_dem |
Apr-11-08 03:48 PM |
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And why would taht matter?Insulting people doesn't influence them to vote for you. |
saracat |
Apr-11-08 03:57 PM |
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I'm sorry. I honestly don't see how this is insulting to anybody. |
jefferson_dem |
Apr-11-08 04:03 PM |
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jefferson, he is basically called them small-minded bigots |
jackson_dem |
Apr-11-08 04:15 PM |
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Bullshit. You are calling them small-minded bigots. |
jefferson_dem |
Apr-11-08 04:21 PM |
#45 |
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In some cases it is but that is 1) neither here nor there 2) not the case for all |
jackson_dem |
Apr-11-08 04:26 PM |
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Oh please. He was not belittling anybody much less an "entire segment of the population." |
jefferson_dem |
Apr-11-08 04:37 PM |
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Calling small town folk a bunch of bigots isn't belittling? |
jackson_dem |
Apr-11-08 05:46 PM |
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No, it was HRC's best friend, PA Gov. Rendell, who specifically called Pennsylvanians racist |
Divernan |
Apr-11-08 04:21 PM |
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Rendell isn't running in the PA primary. If he were he would pay a price for it |
jackson_dem |
Apr-11-08 04:22 PM |
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Remember when he supposedly insulted rural Iowans? |
WesDem |
Apr-11-08 04:23 PM |
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What did he say? Did the msm cover it? |
jackson_dem |
Apr-11-08 05:45 PM |
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I don't know |
SurfingAtWork |
Apr-11-08 03:50 PM |
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You mean, pandering like he did when he invited McClurkin to SC? |
dbaker41 |
Apr-11-08 04:51 PM |
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McCain doesn't know the difference between Iran and Al Qaeda |
thecatburgler |
Apr-11-08 04:34 PM |
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He didn't make the statement to win Penn. He made it because it's the truth. |
faygokid |
Apr-11-08 06:18 PM |
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Obama is talking down about these people |
DemGa |
Apr-11-08 03:47 PM |
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To speak the honestly about rampant unemployment and how economic hardship breeds frustration ... |
jefferson_dem |
Apr-11-08 03:53 PM |
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He's not condescending at all. |
knixphan |
Apr-11-08 04:18 PM |
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I don't agree |
dbmk |
Apr-11-08 05:02 PM |
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Speaking truth to power |
WesDem |
Apr-11-08 03:48 PM |
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Speaking truth to power? HARDLY! |
dbaker41 |
Apr-11-08 04:54 PM |
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You get a clue |
WesDem |
Apr-11-08 05:54 PM |
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yes, truth/power. |
knixphan |
Apr-11-08 05:57 PM |
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-dupe delete- |
knixphan |
Apr-11-08 05:59 PM |
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It's absolutely true |
alcibiades_mystery |
Apr-11-08 03:51 PM |
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Context, apparently, is a thing of the past. |
Walter Sobchak |
Apr-11-08 03:51 PM |
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well. ...... |
rodeodance |
Apr-11-08 06:05 PM |
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He's making blanket judgements about people he doesn't know |
OzarkDem |
Apr-11-08 03:56 PM |
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So you're saying widespread joblessness has no overall ramifications? |
NYCGirl |
Apr-11-08 03:58 PM |
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His comments weren't about joblessness |
OzarkDem |
Apr-11-08 04:00 PM |
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So how do you explain "You go into these small towns in Pennsylvania and, |
NYCGirl |
Apr-11-08 04:01 PM |
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OzarkDem also thinks Obama's a Muslim. |
Starbucks Anarchist |
Apr-11-08 05:49 PM |
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STOP LYING |
rodeodance |
Apr-11-08 06:06 PM |
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I'm not. |
Starbucks Anarchist |
Apr-11-08 06:39 PM |
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Obama insults the people who live in these towns |
OzarkDem |
Apr-11-08 07:25 PM |
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"You go into these small towns in PA and, like a lot of small towns in the Midwest, the jobs..." |
jefferson_dem |
Apr-11-08 04:02 PM |
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Your projecting your own insecurities again. |
jefferson_dem |
Apr-11-08 04:00 PM |
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no. you are sick |
cali |
Apr-11-08 04:06 PM |
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Yes, he's calling them racist and xenophobic -- but he "understands" |
DemGa |
Apr-11-08 04:14 PM |
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Bush lacks the vocabulary to make those sentences. |
knixphan |
Apr-11-08 04:19 PM |
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I live in small town PA and this is on the money |
Marnieworld |
Apr-11-08 04:02 PM |
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I live in small town PA too |
Lannigan |
Apr-11-08 05:05 PM |
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I said that it's not like this in the valley |
Marnieworld |
Apr-11-08 08:11 PM |
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It's true. |
Not the Only One |
Apr-11-08 04:10 PM |
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exactly. |
knixphan |
Apr-11-08 04:20 PM |
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Excellently stated - you have an acute grasp of the situation. |
Divernan |
Apr-11-08 04:50 PM |
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oh no....I feel another POUTRAGE a'comin.... n/t |
Cheap_Trick |
Apr-11-08 04:12 PM |
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Trust me, this is going to hurt Obama politically |
UALRBSofL |
Apr-11-08 04:13 PM |
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They don't consider pregnancy a problem? |
thecatburgler |
Apr-11-08 04:38 PM |
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Obama isn't anti-gun or anti-religion. I do think many people consider pregnancy in young |
Pirate Smile |
Apr-11-08 05:02 PM |
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Sad, jefferson. What would Jefferson say about you applauding O talking down to common folk? |
jackson_dem |
Apr-11-08 04:14 PM |
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What would Jackson say about you not being honest about the challenges of economic hardship? |
jefferson_dem |
Apr-11-08 04:19 PM |
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Obama started well, but ended badly. |
dbaker41 |
Apr-11-08 04:59 PM |
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He would say focus on those responsible: the corporate actors, don't diss the people |
jackson_dem |
Apr-11-08 05:36 PM |
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His speech "showcased Obama's core decency and high measure of regard for each individual." |
Divernan |
Apr-11-08 04:18 PM |
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This coming from the "Unity" candidate. |
2rth2pwr |
Apr-11-08 04:20 PM |
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Funny? How so? |
BushDespiser12 |
Apr-11-08 04:32 PM |
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yes, he will |
rodeodance |
Apr-11-08 08:33 PM |
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San Francisco. |
knixphan |
Apr-11-08 04:21 PM |
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HE IS CORRECT!! Give me a rational reason to disagree that looks at socio-economic reasons please. |
futureliveshere |
Apr-11-08 04:21 PM |
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listen to futureliveshere. |
knixphan |
Apr-11-08 04:27 PM |
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Thanks knixphan.. You inspired me to put up a post.. You share the inspiration with GWB though |
futureliveshere |
Apr-11-08 05:26 PM |
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wow! |
knixphan |
Apr-11-08 05:44 PM |
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It requires a minimum level of common sense, life experience & education to approve Obama's commets |
Divernan |
Apr-11-08 04:35 PM |
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It's exactly what What's The Matter With Kansas was about. |
thecatburgler |
Apr-11-08 04:49 PM |
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It is true. What's the big deal? |
SoonerPride |
Apr-11-08 04:29 PM |
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It is true...and only a big deal to those who are offended at being "outed" by Obama's honesty... |
jefferson_dem |
Apr-11-08 04:43 PM |
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I think that statement is 100% accurate.... |
aaaaaa5a |
Apr-11-08 04:33 PM |
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gonna look for that book! |
knixphan |
Apr-11-08 04:49 PM |
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is there video or just second hand text? |
biggerfishsmallpond |
Apr-11-08 04:33 PM |
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Here is a transcript |
WesDem |
Apr-11-08 06:29 PM |
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This must be the first time in the history of the country |
Vinca |
Apr-11-08 04:34 PM |
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BO's snide remarks about gun owners destroys his recent efforts to cozy up to them. BO is a |
jody |
Apr-11-08 04:39 PM |
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his message to them sounded really full of |
ExtraGriz |
Apr-11-08 04:46 PM |
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When will Obama's camp come out with damage control? |
UALRBSofL |
Apr-11-08 04:49 PM |
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From the author of the linked cite:His speech "showcased Obama's core decency and high measure |
Divernan |
Apr-11-08 04:55 PM |
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Well.. |
dbmk |
Apr-11-08 05:22 PM |
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So, what type of folks are most likely to be 'offended' by this type of truth? |
knixphan |
Apr-11-08 04:52 PM |
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He was doing alright until he breezily |
spoony |
Apr-11-08 05:04 PM |
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Well, well well, Sigmund Obama. His "big therapy couch" approach. |
Neshanic |
Apr-11-08 05:10 PM |
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Apr-11-08 05:21 PM |
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Being a knuckle-dragging sludge-lover is a "human thing"? |
jefferson_dem |
Apr-11-08 05:50 PM |
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More like a Hillary supporter thing. We don't understand but we know you're desperate. |
kwenu |
Apr-11-08 05:55 PM |
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Why is it that In Pennsylvania |
Bluenorthwest |
Apr-11-08 05:23 PM |
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If there is video of that, it could be added to this one- |
2rth2pwr |
Apr-11-08 05:27 PM |
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Has anyone read "What's the Matter with Kansas?" |
Starbucks Anarchist |
Apr-11-08 05:50 PM |
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Wedge Issues |
eek MD |
Apr-11-08 05:51 PM |
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Damn. They have audio of it. Tune into CNN now |
jackson_dem |
Apr-11-08 06:01 PM |
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There is too much honesty in those comments for them to be helpful |
last_texas_dem |
Apr-11-08 06:12 PM |
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As a response to Clinton's bashing, Obama now can do a big speech on trade and NAFTA |
zulchzulu |
Apr-11-08 06:15 PM |
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der |
sueragingroz |
Apr-11-08 06:17 PM |
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der? What the hell is that? |
faygokid |
Apr-11-08 06:21 PM |
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Obama is absolutely correct, alot of people |
Hawaii Hiker |
Apr-11-08 06:47 PM |
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elite what a joke |
monicaaida |
Apr-11-08 06:49 PM |
#128 |
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I find no documentation for him ever working as a stock broker. |
Divernan |
Apr-12-08 05:22 AM |
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sorry as much as I still support obama |
formernaderite |
Apr-11-08 07:58 PM |
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Serious mistake by Obama. |
cornermouse |
Apr-11-08 08:12 PM |
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The people he "insulted" have been voting Repug for 2 decades..... |
scheming daemons |
Apr-11-08 10:05 PM |
#139 |
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For one thing, Obama has made the crossover vote a big |
cornermouse |
Apr-12-08 05:04 AM |
#143 |
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The issue is that even though what he says may be true |
Blue_State_Elitist |
Apr-12-08 02:40 AM |
#142 |
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