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Paul Begala on Mark Penn: "it became almost a Rumsfeldian thing. And he is not even fired."
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Edited on Fri Apr-11-08 12:08 PM by Pirate Smile

Begala: 'Nothing but contempt' for Penn

Paul Begala at a New York breakfast this morning, via HuffPo:

"I have nothing but contempt for Mr. Penn," said Begala at a New York City breakfast sponsored by the non-profit group Public Agenda. "And for those of us who wanted to see him out from the beginning, it became almost a Rumsfeldian thing. And he is not even fired. He has been demoted. How could this be?"

Begala, it's worth noting, is a key consultant to Progressive Media USA, the new Democratic independent money group.

Sen. Clinton's campaign should truly serve as a warning to us regarding how an Administration of hers would be run.

That is harsher then I normally like get regarding her, but, damn, I just don't get it considering what a smart person she is supposed to be - her campaign is a huge, red warning sign. :wtf:

Edit to add more:

"Penn is looking to target non-Catholic Latino woman. All two of them He slices the baloney incredibly thin. And in addition to being a political strategist, he is heading one of the biggest public relations firm in Washington, which is a huge conflict of interest. The campaign ended up looking like Exxon Mobil instead of what it really is this campaign has been so incremental and corporate.

Edit to add even more:

"WP: Power Lunch Alert! - Mark Penn lunches with Karen Hughes

Spotted at lunch Wednesday at the pricey D.C. restaurant Il Mulino: Mark Penn, Burson-Marsteller chief and former chief strategist and major player in Sen. Hillary Rodham Clinton's presidential campaign.

His luncheon companion? None other than Karen P. Hughes, longtime Bush aide, White House counselor and State Department public diplomacy czar. We're told mutual friends arranged this as a "get-to-know-you lunch" while she was in town for a State Department public diplomacy award.

But what would the two PR wizards have discussed? Obviously not politics. Maybe Hughes, who surely would have a number of potential Mideast clients -- despite having had some rocky days over there -- would come work for Penn's firm? Maybe a little chit-chat over their favorite PR strategies? NAFTA?

Good Lord! This stuff reminds me of when Bill was complementing Karl Rove after the 2004 campaign.

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  -Paul Begala on Mark Penn: "it became almost a Rumsfeldian thing. And he is not even fired." Pirate Smile  Apr-11-08 11:11 AM   #0 
  - Penn - like Rumsfeld, only richer.  thevoiceofreason   Apr-11-08 11:16 AM   #1 
  - Coupled with the Bosnia lies and the financial mismanagement - ugghhhh.  Pirate Smile   Apr-11-08 11:18 AM   #3 
  - Begala also calls Ed Rendell's idea to look at candidates based on electoral college votes "silly."  flpoljunkie   Apr-11-08 11:55 AM   #10 
     - he's been a pretty steadfast hillary guy. this must be an eye opener  roguevalley   Apr-11-08 12:38 PM   #16 
  - And we thought Bush was bad with cronyism? I can't even imagine what her administration would be lik  GarbagemanLB   Apr-11-08 11:17 AM   #2 
  - as to her smarts  swampg8r   Apr-11-08 11:22 AM   #4 
     - Smarts?  ROakes1019   Apr-11-08 11:36 AM   #8 
  - I detect a distinct loosening of the wheels  redqueen   Apr-11-08 11:22 AM   #5 
  - The problem is obvious. The wheels need more lug NUTS!  TahitiNut   Apr-11-08 11:25 AM   #6 
  - Not many people consider the issue of Penn on HRC campaign, the mans been an utter failure. I feel..  uponit7771   Apr-11-08 11:30 AM   #7 
  - Wow I am surprised at that! Begala speaking out !  1776Forever   Apr-11-08 11:45 AM   #9 
  - What I don't get --  gateley   Apr-11-08 11:56 AM   #11 
  - I would think her supporters would hate him the most. My Mom keeps saying that Penn  Pirate Smile   Apr-11-08 12:02 PM   #12 
  - he was with bill since 1996 and they are loyal to their friends. amazing  roguevalley   Apr-11-08 12:48 PM   #21 
  - She must be the only one who thinks so - or she would have fired him altogether  hisownpetard   Apr-11-08 12:22 PM   #15 
  - Good for you, Paul. She should have hired you!  TheWraith   Apr-11-08 12:04 PM   #13 
  - Well, he likes negative campaigning so I'm not sure that it wouldn't have turned into a hatefest but  Pirate Smile   Apr-11-08 12:41 PM   #17 
  - Begala likes playing rough, but he's not a Rove type like Penn.  TheWraith   Apr-11-08 02:42 PM   #23 
  - I don't think they even do US campaigns any more.  americanstranger   Apr-11-08 12:53 PM   #22 
     - I think you're right. nt  TheWraith   Apr-11-08 02:42 PM   #24 
  - Begala sees the writing on the wall - this is about post-primary accountabilty and spin  asSEENonTV   Apr-11-08 12:06 PM   #14 
  - I'm about to get over the dislike of Paul I developed in law school  thevoiceofreason   Apr-11-08 12:43 PM   #18 
  - Why didn't Hillary hire Begala instead?  NJSecularist   Apr-11-08 12:44 PM   #19 
  - It looks like Begala is taking the life raft off the sinking SS Clinton  zulchzulu   Apr-11-08 12:45 PM   #20 

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