OzarkDem
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Tue Apr-08-08 07:55 AM
Response to Reply #46 |
| 50. The sad fact of the Dem party |
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Edited on Tue Apr-08-08 07:56 AM by OzarkDem
is that its base is women voters, but its leadership is still primarily white men, who are in denial about their base.
To see our Dem male leaders lining up to attack Clinton and support a less experienced candidate is the most self-destructive thing they've done in years.
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| -The White Male Voter |
CitizenLeft |
Apr-08-08 01:15 AM |
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Thanks for posting this! |
Sandi_4_Edwards |
Apr-08-08 01:21 AM |
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it looks like Clinton did pretty good |
hfojvt |
Apr-08-08 01:24 AM |
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Perot got 19% in 1992; |
shimmergal |
Apr-08-08 07:17 AM |
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And that is why Clinton won and Kerry, Mondale, Dukakis, and Carter all lost |
jackson_dem |
Apr-08-08 04:31 PM |
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Which is why we are not nominating Hillary |
MattBaggins |
Apr-08-08 05:32 PM |
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The data shows otherwise. In FL Obama is getting 27% white male support, 28% white female support |
jackson_dem |
Apr-08-08 05:43 PM |
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bed shmed get out here and defend your post lol |
grantcart |
Apr-08-08 01:24 AM |
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Yep....I was listening to this broacast today, and I said....WTF? |
FrenchieCat |
Apr-08-08 01:24 AM |
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Interesting |
blogslut |
Apr-08-08 01:25 AM |
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Excellent post, and I hope the spinners and |
cliffordu |
Apr-08-08 01:26 AM |
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Let's keep this kicked. |
FrenchieCat |
Apr-08-08 01:38 AM |
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A 56 year old white male working class Obamaniac |
woolldog |
Apr-08-08 02:43 AM |
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Does this mean I can get some health insurance now????? |
cliffordu |
Apr-08-08 02:46 AM |
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Just emailed this to some of my co-horts...... |
FrenchieCat |
Apr-08-08 01:37 AM |
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That Nascar dad isn't pastorbaiting, is he???? |
cliffordu |
Apr-08-08 01:41 AM |
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With his other hand? |
FrenchieCat |
Apr-08-08 01:45 AM |
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RE: On edit - |
cliffordu |
Apr-08-08 01:43 AM |
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just now getting back to the post... |
CitizenLeft |
Apr-09-08 09:57 PM |
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Interesting!!! |
Cali_Democrat |
Apr-08-08 01:43 AM |
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Ain't it tough....... |
FrenchieCat |
Apr-08-08 01:48 AM |
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I said it on another post - |
cliffordu |
Apr-08-08 02:01 AM |
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you obviously do not live in Texas n/t |
Skittles |
Apr-08-08 02:31 AM |
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Well, I used to live in Austin, but that ain't really Texas, is it.... |
cliffordu |
Apr-08-08 02:32 AM |
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nope and I would know |
Skittles |
Apr-08-08 02:35 AM |
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My wife and I lived there for 10.... |
cliffordu |
Apr-08-08 02:36 AM |
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I lived there way back |
Skittles |
Apr-08-08 04:17 AM |
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very cool! |
CitizenLeft |
Apr-09-08 10:00 PM |
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The swing group is white women, not white men |
Awsi Dooger |
Apr-08-08 02:18 AM |
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I think that after Hil's team going after Bill Richardson and Obama's race speech |
FrenchieCat |
Apr-08-08 02:24 AM |
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please no |
Ramonna Villota |
Apr-09-08 11:04 PM |
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What makes you think Edwards would have dented that deficit? |
woolldog |
Apr-08-08 02:52 AM |
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All true, thanks |
OzarkDem |
Apr-08-08 07:50 AM |
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this I agree with: |
CitizenLeft |
Apr-09-08 10:14 PM |
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Excellent point by Ms. Maddow. |
woolldog |
Apr-08-08 02:30 AM |
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"If Barack Obama gets even 27-30% of the white male vote, it'll be a triumph" |
woolldog |
Apr-08-08 02:41 AM |
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I meant in terms of how nasty this campaign will get... |
CitizenLeft |
Apr-09-08 10:21 PM |
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Interesting and alarming |
XemaSab |
Apr-08-08 03:06 AM |
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The republicans |
struck_dumb |
Apr-08-08 04:36 AM |
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I think one of the main reasons is a lot of white male voters Don't VOTE |
MagickMuffin |
Apr-08-08 05:47 AM |
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Obama appears more likely to draw more white male votes than Hillary. |
TexasObserver |
Apr-08-08 06:08 AM |
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psychic |
struck_dumb |
Apr-08-08 06:12 AM |
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Why can't we just forget about white males this election? |
undeterred |
Apr-08-08 06:10 AM |
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I've got one reason... |
struck_dumb |
Apr-08-08 06:13 AM |
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Yes but they've messed things up for 200 years |
undeterred |
Apr-08-08 06:22 AM |
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Speaking of which |
TexasObserver |
Apr-08-08 07:24 AM |
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Thank you Texas white male. |
undeterred |
Apr-08-08 07:29 AM |
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revolutionaries |
struck_dumb |
Apr-08-08 07:26 AM |
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Because we can't win without some male votes. |
totodeinhere |
Apr-08-08 07:29 AM |
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We could easily win |
OzarkDem |
Apr-08-08 07:38 AM |
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including women |
struck_dumb |
Apr-08-08 07:43 AM |
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They're in denial about their party's base |
OzarkDem |
Apr-08-08 07:47 AM |
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Yes! and I'd go so far as to say... |
struck_dumb |
Apr-08-08 07:58 AM |
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Why shouldn't they bash her? |
WesDem |
Apr-08-08 04:37 PM |
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because it was 'dogpile' on Hillary... |
struck_dumb |
Apr-08-08 05:09 PM |
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Aw, she was ambushed |
WesDem |
Apr-08-08 05:58 PM |
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yup, yur right |
struck_dumb |
Apr-08-08 06:06 PM |
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I'm not for Hillary but I agree with you |
undeterred |
Apr-08-08 07:44 AM |
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true (added to) |
struck_dumb |
Apr-08-08 07:49 AM |
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Honest? |
OzarkDem |
Apr-08-08 07:58 AM |
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yes, I crossed over topics there |
struck_dumb |
Apr-08-08 07:59 AM |
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Men are afraid of the First strong woman. |
undeterred |
Apr-08-08 07:59 AM |
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As a woman living abroad... |
struck_dumb |
Apr-08-08 08:02 AM |
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The sad fact of the Dem party |
OzarkDem |
Apr-08-08 07:55 AM |
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But there is more to qualification for office than experience. |
totodeinhere |
Apr-08-08 12:31 PM |
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Grasping at straws? |
OzarkDem |
Apr-08-08 03:43 PM |
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I didn't say that she isn't a good candidate. |
totodeinhere |
Apr-08-08 04:10 PM |
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I think Barry is a bit of a puppet... |
struck_dumb |
Apr-08-08 04:15 PM |
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I haven't seen anything whatsoever to suggest that Obama is anyone's puppet. |
totodeinhere |
Apr-08-08 04:37 PM |
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thanks for the reply :) |
struck_dumb |
Apr-08-08 05:00 PM |
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For someone so "vague and untrained" he has sure run a great campaign. |
totodeinhere |
Apr-08-08 07:54 PM |
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that's just ridiculous |
hfojvt |
Apr-08-08 11:01 AM |
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No, it doesn't make any sense to try to drive away women voters from the party. |
totodeinhere |
Apr-08-08 12:36 PM |
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Agree |
OzarkDem |
Apr-08-08 07:34 AM |
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the biggest part of the Dem base is women voters, period |
OzarkDem |
Apr-08-08 07:33 AM |
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Good point. Obama does far worse with white women than white men |
jackson_dem |
Apr-08-08 04:29 PM |
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Ad idea: Beer and Football commercials ... |
phrigndumass |
Apr-08-08 07:34 AM |
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Very interesting statistics Thanks! n/t |
JayFredMuggs |
Apr-08-08 07:42 AM |
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ive heard on a couple of radio talk shows.. |
indimuse |
Apr-08-08 07:59 AM |
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beautiful. |
knixphan |
Apr-08-08 12:34 PM |
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Very interesting ~~ leave it to RM to find the facts! |
Hepburn |
Apr-08-08 12:38 PM |
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Hah... thanks for posting this! |
redqueen |
Apr-08-08 01:12 PM |
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If we get 27%-30%, it'll be a triumph? |
zlt234 |
Apr-08-08 04:26 PM |
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The Clinton numbers are misleading since there were 3 candidates |
jackson_dem |
Apr-08-08 04:34 PM |
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yes... it would be a triumph... |
CitizenLeft |
Apr-09-08 10:31 PM |
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Because they are over 1/3 of voters |
jackson_dem |
Apr-08-08 04:28 PM |
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I'll be in that number |
NotGonnaTakeIt |
Apr-08-08 04:36 PM |
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How did all these candidates do? |
jackson_dem |
Apr-08-08 04:51 PM |
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right on my Dem friend!! |
struck_dumb |
Apr-08-08 05:26 PM |
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We should call you "struck_down." |
Starbucks Anarchist |
Apr-09-08 11:35 PM |
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You really think Hillary will fair better with |
MattBaggins |
Apr-08-08 05:47 PM |
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no, delusions in check thanks to groundbreaking medications |
struck_dumb |
Apr-08-08 05:50 PM |
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better than Obama and she will do much better with white female voters |
jackson_dem |
Apr-08-08 06:52 PM |
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And Kerry did better among white males than Clinton in 92 |
sniffa |
Apr-08-08 05:54 PM |
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so true! the WMV were not going for Obama before Wright |
GoldieAZ49 |
Apr-08-08 06:35 PM |
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That is part of but many of them think Obama can win with 27% white male support |
jackson_dem |
Apr-08-08 06:54 PM |
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beautiful, go rachel |
crankychatter |
Apr-08-08 06:04 PM |
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is that 'rebroadcast' available online? |
GoldieAZ49 |
Apr-08-08 06:37 PM |
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Very enlightening. Good post. |
Bensthename |
Apr-08-08 06:53 PM |
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kick |
GoldieAZ49 |
Apr-08-08 09:53 PM |
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I think he'll get around 33-36% of the white male vote. |
NJSecularist |
Apr-09-08 10:29 PM |
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someone said that above, and I agree... |
CitizenLeft |
Apr-09-08 10:38 PM |
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you mean someone like this lady? |
madrchsod |
Apr-09-08 11:35 PM |
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thanks, everyone, for your comments! |
CitizenLeft |
Apr-09-08 10:39 PM |
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The White male voter is extremely important |
demasiado |
Apr-09-08 10:44 PM |
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i know of 6 republican voters who are voting for barack |
madrchsod |
Apr-09-08 11:32 PM |
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