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cosmokramer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-03-04 12:03 PM
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28. Simple answer: Look at the data.
Kerry polls the WORST in areas of foreign policy vs. Bush...

...injecting the ticket with a General will definitely help in this area. It matters. You don't go up against a "War Preznit" and his ability to inject 'fear' without full-metal ammunition.

It isn't just enough to say what you will do--you have to prove that you have the ability to succeed, and prove that you are more experienced in matters of foreign policy and war. Kerry is more experienced in war combat than Bush, but he has never dealt with the diplomatic/strategic aspects of war (though I could hardly say Bush has 'dealt' with this either, but most of the voting public believes differently). General Clark, however, HAS functioned as a negotiator and actually planned a war. He is currently in the Ukraine working on diplomatic relations/issues of international concern on behalf of Kerry. He will be an extraordinary choice for VP that will inject 35 years of experience in to the democratic ticket...a MUCH BETTER choice for VP than a trial lawyer who's only political experience is 4.5 years as a Senator.

Kerry/Clark vs. Bush/Cheney

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  -Clark 1st, McCain 2nd, Edwards falls to 3rd--Week 11 cosmokramer  Jun-02-04 10:27 PM   #0 
  - Would anyone like to take bets  dolo amber   Jun-02-04 10:28 PM   #1 
  - I would be deeeeeeeelighted that such an  cosmokramer   Jun-02-04 10:31 PM   #2 
     - Well, all of Tennessee sat up and took  Scoopie   Jun-02-04 10:38 PM   #3 
        - Likely so...  cosmokramer   Jun-02-04 10:41 PM   #4 
        - I think it's become  dolo amber   Jun-02-04 10:43 PM   #5 
        - I hate to say it  WI_DEM   Jun-03-04 08:04 AM   #19 
           - With sad disgust  troublemaker   Jun-03-04 09:04 AM   #21 
           - That isn't really your concern.  cosmokramer   Jun-03-04 12:05 PM   #29 
           - It's a done deal, it is Edwards...........................................  surfermaw   Jun-07-04 05:09 PM   #77 
           - hahahahahaha  cosmokramer   Jun-07-04 10:27 PM   #80 
           - Whatever... You didn't see US falling apart when Clark's campaign..  Kahuna   Jun-08-04 06:44 AM   #82 
        - I didn't know about the 4 phone calls...but I surmised that a deal was  Gloria   Jun-02-04 11:00 PM   #6 
        - Personally, I think it's been a done deal since the middle of  LandOLincoln   Jun-03-04 01:10 AM   #16 
           - I would agree with you, as usual.  cosmokramer   Jun-03-04 08:54 PM   #35 
           - Clark 48 appearances on behalf of Kerry...  cosmokramer   Jun-03-04 09:40 PM   #38 
  - Where's Lieberman on this list?  Voltaire99   Jun-02-04 11:01 PM   #7 
  - As much as I like general Clark, he is not the best choice  still_one   Jun-02-04 11:02 PM   #8 
  - That has been proven to be a false claim,,,  Spazito   Jun-02-04 11:29 PM   #10 
  - Strongest possible non-vulgar disagreement  troublemaker   Jun-03-04 09:07 AM   #22 
  - You're wrong about that. Sorry.  in_cog_ni_to   Jun-03-04 10:09 AM   #23 
     - Sigh... Jamie Rubin... Sigh  cryingshame   Jun-03-04 09:59 PM   #39 
        - Does Christiane Amanpour know  in_cog_ni_to   Jun-07-04 12:39 PM   #71 
           - Adorable he is!  cosmokramer   Jun-08-04 09:10 AM   #85 
  - in this messy world, one heartbeat from the presidency -- let it be Clark  sundancekid   Jun-02-04 11:19 PM   #9 
  - No doubt about is who I trust.  cosmokramer   Jun-03-04 08:17 PM   #33 
  - Clark should win all internet polls...  DjTj   Jun-02-04 11:34 PM   #11 
  - you have a good point  JI7   Jun-02-04 11:40 PM   #12 
  - I love that suit Kerry has on  juajen   Jun-04-04 02:01 AM   #43 
  - More than 12,000 people voted in the MSNBC poll...  Sopianae   Jun-02-04 11:52 PM   #13 
  - I really hate to say this but...  Darkamber   Jun-03-04 12:19 AM   #14 
     - Yeah, a few people might delete their cookies and vote several times  Sopianae   Jun-03-04 12:41 AM   #15 
     - You fail to take in to account...  cosmokramer   Jun-03-04 11:46 AM   #26 
     - So why do you think only Clark supporters would freep?  Kahuna   Jun-08-04 10:57 AM   #86 
  - 6 entries on a post from April 16 when Clark was trailing Edwards is not  Kahuna   Jun-08-04 06:47 AM   #83 
  - I like Clark! n/t  Claire_beth   Jun-03-04 07:33 AM   #17 
  - You have excellent, well-reasoned taste!  cosmokramer   Jun-03-04 10:58 PM   #40 
  - where did people get the idea that just becuz you are a military man  WI_DEM   Jun-03-04 08:00 AM   #18 
  - That crack about Clark's resume...  hf_jai   Jun-03-04 11:23 AM   #25 
  - Simple answer: Look at the data.  cosmokramer   Jun-03-04 12:03 PM   #28 
  - Amazing what happens in online polls...  Padraig18   Jun-03-04 08:05 AM   #20 
  - Scientific polls said Dean should be the nominee...  cosmokramer   Jun-03-04 11:51 AM   #27 
     - Actually, I haven't seen any  hf_jai   Jun-03-04 01:17 PM   #30 
     - The media reports what they want to report...  cosmokramer   Jun-03-04 03:19 PM   #32 
     - no, scientific polls had Kerry ahead  JI7   Jun-03-04 08:20 PM   #34 
        - He wasn't ahead in any of the national polls until a few days  cosmokramer   Jun-03-04 11:29 PM   #42 
           - Since we elect the POTUS on a state-by-state basis, ...  Padraig18   Jun-04-04 05:26 AM   #44 
              - right, Kerry was running a primary election  JI7   Jun-04-04 05:33 AM   #45 
              - Precisely. National polls, ESPECIALLY online ones, mean squat!  Padraig18   Jun-04-04 07:44 AM   #47 
              - Which was precisely my point.  cosmokramer   Jun-04-04 11:29 AM   #48 
                 - Huh?  Padraig18   Jun-04-04 12:37 PM   #49 
                    - Deleted message  Name removed   Jun-04-04 02:32 PM   #50 
                    - No. You made it for me.  cosmokramer   Jun-04-04 03:15 PM   #51 
                       - I disagree.  Padraig18   Jun-04-04 03:33 PM   #52 
                          - Didn't the polls say Dean had the nomination locked up tight?  Anti Bush   Jun-04-04 03:53 PM   #53 
                             - None said anyone had the nomination 'locked up tight', that I recall.  Padraig18   Jun-04-04 03:55 PM   #54 
                                - Actually, almost ALL of the pundits said so...  cosmokramer   Jun-04-04 08:28 PM   #55 
                                   - No, both are not valid.  Padraig18   Jun-04-04 08:31 PM   #56 
                                      - right, the polls showed that Kerry ahead at the time of the elections  JI7   Jun-04-04 08:49 PM   #57 
                                      - You don't call ahead by 10% nationally locked up?  cosmokramer   Jun-05-04 12:02 AM   #58 
                                         - no, because the election was only in iowa where Kerry was ahead  JI7   Jun-05-04 12:12 AM   #59 
                                         - You are correct, JI7. n/t  Padraig18   Jun-05-04 04:25 AM   #61 
                                         - No, I do not consider that 'locked up'.  Padraig18   Jun-05-04 04:24 AM   #60 
                                            - Yet national polls report it as so.  cosmokramer   Jun-05-04 08:22 PM   #62 
                                               - No national poll reported that--- ever.  Padraig18   Jun-05-04 08:51 PM   #63 
                                                  - Good grief...  cosmokramer   Jun-05-04 08:57 PM   #64 
                                                     - No. I get it just fine.  Padraig18   Jun-05-04 09:16 PM   #65 
                                                     - No, you don't.  cosmokramer   Jun-05-04 10:14 PM   #66 
                                                     - Yes, I do. n/t  Padraig18   Jun-05-04 10:33 PM   #67 
                                                     - Deleted message  Name removed   Jun-06-04 08:24 PM   #68 
                                                     - Deleted message  Name removed   Jun-07-04 12:50 PM   #72 
                                                     - Deleted message  Name removed   Jun-07-04 12:53 PM   #73 
                                                     - I appologize that this particular deletion came up as "moderator"...  rasputin1952   Jun-07-04 02:51 PM   #74 
                                                     - Deleted message  Name removed   Jun-07-04 03:01 PM   #75 
  - People are finally seeing the light!  in_cog_ni_to   Jun-03-04 10:12 AM   #24 
  - Yes he does offer something.  Anti Bush   Jun-03-04 01:21 PM   #31 
  - UPDATE UPDATE  cosmokramer   Jun-03-04 09:04 PM   #36 
  - WOW!  in_cog_ni_to   Jun-04-04 07:11 AM   #46 
  - pleasepleasepleasepleasepleasepleasepleasepleasepleasepleasepleaseplease  saywhat   Jun-03-04 09:06 PM   #37 
  - I'll drink to that!  Anti Bush   Jun-03-04 11:28 PM   #41 
  - Any truth to their dislike of each other?  RaRa   Jun-06-04 09:22 PM   #69 
  - Not true about intern scandal  hf_jai   Jun-07-04 06:46 AM   #70 
     - Exactly. It was NOT a Clark generated attack.  cosmokramer   Jun-07-04 04:33 PM   #76 
  - Wow! Leading in an online poll?  Cuban_Liberal   Jun-07-04 06:51 PM   #78 
  - Sure, much as it was on the Edwards blog.  cosmokramer   Jun-07-04 10:31 PM   #81 
     - There were six replies to an April post on that Clark blob that THEY'RE  Kahuna   Jun-08-04 06:50 AM   #84 
  - I'll take the antiwar general. But, MCCAIN?!  mzmolly   Jun-07-04 07:29 PM   #79 

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