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Mon Apr-07-08 01:38 AM
Response to Reply #82 |
| 97. She should have verified it or corrected herself after the fact. |
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A simple "I got this from the Sheriff, but it turns out to be somewhat incorrect - here's the real story..." would be understandable and raise her credibility. But she's bothered to do nothing about it and that says that the truth is inconsequential to her.
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| -"A Painful Lie" (HospitalGate family speaks out, and they are NOT happy) |
Yael |
Apr-06-08 08:57 PM |
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No one seems to give a rat's ass about the family.... |
OhioChick |
Apr-06-08 09:00 PM |
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agreed but I've still not heard anyone in Hills camp |
formernaderite |
Apr-06-08 10:01 PM |
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Yeah, she's ALL image, no knowledge of facts |
JayFredMuggs |
Apr-07-08 12:58 PM |
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Yes, because hospitals never illegally turn people away from treatment |
lastliberalintexas |
Apr-07-08 10:11 PM |
#143 |
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right you are...they can sooo afford law suits |
formernaderite |
Apr-08-08 07:54 AM |
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It was just a convenient story for HRC to help show she is "human". |
ORDem |
Apr-07-08 12:35 AM |
#90 |
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So many women have "grabbed her arm" at campaign stops |
Alter Ego |
Apr-07-08 08:20 AM |
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this family is being hounded by this story and its so awful. she should |
roguevalley |
Apr-07-08 07:25 PM |
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I feel horrible for the family |
SunsetDreams |
Apr-06-08 09:02 PM |
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It is hard to understand this lack of professionalism. nt |
patrice |
Apr-06-08 09:03 PM |
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Obviously, Clinton and her campaign... |
dchill |
Apr-07-08 01:42 AM |
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She hadn't been able to verify any of the WMDs either. |
pocoloco |
Apr-06-08 09:03 PM |
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Wait a minute - I think you're on to something - with all the outsourcing |
hedgehog |
Apr-06-08 09:05 PM |
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You have a point there. |
Zachstar |
Apr-06-08 09:14 PM |
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I am reminded of the Mayberrys of Tennessee. |
grasswire |
Apr-06-08 09:04 PM |
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Al Gore sure wouldn't get away with |
zidzi |
Apr-06-08 09:11 PM |
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they made her wait a day w/a stillborn inside her??? |
fed-up |
Apr-06-08 09:12 PM |
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The hospital is not looking good in this |
MH1 |
Apr-06-08 09:18 PM |
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Hillary probably didn't even know the woman's name. |
lizzy |
Apr-06-08 09:41 PM |
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Saying a hospital willingly let people die over a fee is slander. |
boppers |
Apr-07-08 12:36 AM |
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Therefore...... |
dchill |
Apr-07-08 01:47 AM |
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Would Hillary repeat any juicy story that was told to her, without checking it out? |
marshall |
Apr-07-08 01:00 PM |
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Questions like that show why stories like this can back fire. |
hedgehog |
Apr-06-08 11:12 PM |
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I want to know what happened, a woman is dead |
sandnsea |
Apr-06-08 11:42 PM |
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no.. it is not out of the ordinary..it`s not an emergency |
madrchsod |
Apr-07-08 12:28 AM |
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It sounds odd to me that someone with insurance went to |
Virginian |
Apr-07-08 12:41 PM |
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That happened to me |
Madam Mossfern |
Apr-08-08 11:52 AM |
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Who named the family w/o their permission? The hospital and the WaPo. |
McCamy Taylor |
Apr-06-08 09:13 PM |
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No, Hillary did not tell an anonymous story. She made one up. |
Yael |
Apr-06-08 09:19 PM |
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You have it completely wrong |
anigbrowl |
Apr-06-08 09:44 PM |
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Clinton spokesperson said. "She had no reason to doubt his word." |
Bread and Circus |
Apr-06-08 09:15 PM |
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How does it show she knew nothing of health care policy? |
lastliberalintexas |
Apr-07-08 10:22 PM |
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"... as far as she knows..." n/t |
SoCalDem |
Apr-08-08 11:54 AM |
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Clinton needs to offer a full and public apology for this. |
Zachstar |
Apr-06-08 09:16 PM |
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No, the hospital needs to investigate who violated the families confidentiality. |
McCamy Taylor |
Apr-06-08 09:17 PM |
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There were death notices in the local paper last August |
anigbrowl |
Apr-06-08 09:47 PM |
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wow, this is really bad news for Hillary |
slinkerwink |
Apr-06-08 09:19 PM |
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I don't see this as a big deal, except for the carelessness. |
blonndee |
Apr-06-08 09:20 PM |
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Do you want a president who repeats 3rd hand stories without vetting them? |
Yael |
Apr-06-08 09:26 PM |
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What do you think? |
blonndee |
Apr-06-08 09:27 PM |
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Me? I am still waiting to hear where the WMDs are |
Yael |
Apr-06-08 09:56 PM |
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No, obviously I want the president that claims to have been a |
lizzy |
Apr-06-08 09:36 PM |
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Oh good then you're on the Obama bandwagon |
tammywammy |
Apr-06-08 09:40 PM |
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Yea, the University said he served as a professor. |
lizzy |
Apr-06-08 09:42 PM |
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Then you'll be very happy when he's elected this coming November |
tammywammy |
Apr-06-08 09:43 PM |
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In my view, he has about as much a chance of being elected as |
lizzy |
Apr-06-08 09:44 PM |
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Obama was a professor and you are just embarassing yourself. |
Hissyspit |
Apr-07-08 03:18 AM |
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Just because he was regarded as a professor or served as a |
lizzy |
Apr-07-08 05:46 PM |
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The University of Chicago said they considered him a professor. |
Hissyspit |
Apr-07-08 10:03 PM |
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LOL, it's hard to tell if this is a sarcastic reply or not |
Fire_brand |
Apr-08-08 11:47 AM |
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Wow, a minority of you Hillary supporters... |
TwoSparkles |
Apr-07-08 12:54 PM |
#128 |
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Yes, this really disgusts me too! |
JayFredMuggs |
Apr-07-08 01:06 PM |
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it amazes me how people can't allow a university to name their |
roguevalley |
Apr-07-08 07:30 PM |
#139 |
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Glad to have you on board |
Yael |
Apr-06-08 09:42 PM |
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I am not on any board with you. |
lizzy |
Apr-06-08 09:43 PM |
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OK. |
dchill |
Apr-07-08 01:50 AM |
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He was a professor. |
Hissyspit |
Apr-07-08 03:10 AM |
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He was a professor |
catgirl |
Apr-07-08 11:11 AM |
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I don't think so either |
itsjustme |
Apr-07-08 09:03 AM |
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Ouch - A public apology is a MUST here |
varelse |
Apr-06-08 09:22 PM |
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Good Question. |
OhioChick |
Apr-06-08 09:26 PM |
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An apology from the WaPo |
McCamy Taylor |
Apr-06-08 09:26 PM |
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As Well as From HRC |
OhioChick |
Apr-06-08 09:27 PM |
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Do you understand that this was very bad publicity for the hospital? |
Levgreee |
Apr-06-08 10:09 PM |
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The hospital should sue Hillary for libel |
catgirl |
Apr-07-08 11:13 AM |
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She wasn't naming the woman or the hospital. |
lizzy |
Apr-06-08 09:29 PM |
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Because she added crap "facts" to the story that were not true. |
Yael |
Apr-06-08 09:32 PM |
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She didn't add any crap facts to the story. |
lizzy |
Apr-06-08 09:35 PM |
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Crap facts added: |
Yael |
Apr-06-08 09:47 PM |
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She was told the story by the sheriff. What the sheriff told her |
lizzy |
Apr-06-08 09:49 PM |
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She Tuzla'd the whole thing. |
Yael |
Apr-06-08 09:53 PM |
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Right here. |
lizzy |
Apr-06-08 10:04 PM |
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Reading Comprehension: D- |
Yael |
Apr-06-08 10:11 PM |
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Apparently you can't neither read nor see. |
lizzy |
Apr-06-08 10:16 PM |
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I watched it. Question remains: |
Yael |
Apr-06-08 10:28 PM |
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Hillary: Ready to believe whatever she is told on Day One. |
JBoy |
Apr-07-08 11:05 AM |
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how about stupidity regarding anecdotal evidence? |
rosebud57 |
Apr-07-08 11:11 AM |
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She should have had her staff confirm the facts and get the family's permission to use the story |
rox63 |
Apr-07-08 12:47 PM |
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you really have yourself twisted in knots to spin your way out of her lies |
Lerkfish |
Apr-07-08 09:49 AM |
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It wasn't a generic story, it was a well known local story. |
Crunchy Frog |
Apr-06-08 10:46 PM |
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um Pizza Hut Pomeroy Ohio? Pomeroy is a small town with 1 PizzaHut |
rosebud57 |
Apr-07-08 11:11 AM |
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The WaPo printed the family's name here: |
McCamy Taylor |
Apr-06-08 09:26 PM |
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Or, she was caught (again) making shit up |
Yael |
Apr-06-08 09:29 PM |
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Can you read? She didn't make anything up. The story |
lizzy |
Apr-06-08 09:33 PM |
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He told her about the death of the woman and her baby and that she worked for a pizza place |
Yael |
Apr-06-08 09:50 PM |
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He said the woman had no insurance. |
lizzy |
Apr-06-08 10:03 PM |
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He did? It isn't in your link... |
Yael |
Apr-06-08 10:12 PM |
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There is a link to a video in my link. |
lizzy |
Apr-06-08 10:14 PM |
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I watched it. Question remains: |
Yael |
Apr-06-08 10:28 PM |
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WTF should I discuss anything with you? |
lizzy |
Apr-06-08 10:39 PM |
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more obsession by BO fans. |
rodeodance |
Apr-07-08 12:41 AM |
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She was a salaried manager |
Yael |
Apr-07-08 07:56 AM |
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I find it strange that the BO supporters are so supportive |
goodgd_yall |
Apr-07-08 01:09 PM |
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That's because the sheriff said the woman was making minimal |
lizzy |
Apr-07-08 05:41 PM |
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She either believes everything she hears or makes things up |
AngryAmish |
Apr-07-08 08:39 AM |
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Of course she didn't, Hillary NEVER makes anything up... |
snooper2 |
Apr-07-08 09:16 AM |
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A DEPUTY sheriff in Ohio's poorest county - like he's an expert on hospital policy |
Divernan |
Apr-07-08 11:00 AM |
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OK this makes more sense now |
varelse |
Apr-06-08 09:31 PM |
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It is incredibly hurtful to the family |
Yael |
Apr-06-08 09:38 PM |
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BULLSHIT |
anigbrowl |
Apr-06-08 09:55 PM |
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Important distinction - he was a DEPUTY sheriff, not an elected official. |
Divernan |
Apr-07-08 11:05 AM |
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I feel bad for the family |
tammywammy |
Apr-06-08 09:26 PM |
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Sen. Clinton owes them a huge apology. Now. |
AZBlue |
Apr-06-08 09:33 PM |
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She didn't do anything wrong. She repeated a story that was told to her by a local sheriff. |
StevieM |
Apr-06-08 11:24 PM |
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She should have verified it or corrected herself after the fact. |
AZBlue |
Apr-07-08 01:38 AM |
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Remember Obama's story about the officer in Afghanistan? |
goodgd_yall |
Apr-07-08 12:56 PM |
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Obama's done the same things, but Hillary is the one who gets |
lizzy |
Apr-07-08 05:42 PM |
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And bush* repeated stories told to him by Ahmed Chalabi.... |
bvar22 |
Apr-07-08 11:52 AM |
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I sympathize with the family, but it's too bad the grandmother comes off as so biased. |
BerryBush |
Apr-06-08 09:35 PM |
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So HRC should find a REAL one and talk about it to raise awareness |
Yael |
Apr-06-08 09:39 PM |
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Well, the grandmother's words are unfortunate |
Crunchy Frog |
Apr-06-08 11:00 PM |
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I know, unnecessary shame |
sandnsea |
Apr-06-08 11:44 PM |
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Grandma sounds like a Republican |
goodgd_yall |
Apr-07-08 12:03 PM |
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This is VERY bad news for Hillary. |
Cali_Democrat |
Apr-06-08 09:36 PM |
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I don't know how many times I have to repeat this. Hillary never |
lizzy |
Apr-06-08 09:38 PM |
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If it wasn't for her repeated, DAILY lie fest |
Yael |
Apr-06-08 09:41 PM |
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way to fuck up, Hillary |
JVS |
Apr-06-08 09:39 PM |
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Hillary should be ashamed, but she has no shame. It's all about her. |
InAbLuEsTaTe |
Apr-06-08 09:40 PM |
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Omg. It just gets worse every day. |
sfexpat2000 |
Apr-06-08 09:44 PM |
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This I can agree with |
Lone_Star_Dem |
Apr-06-08 09:55 PM |
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This family is much more important to me than either campaign. |
sfexpat2000 |
Apr-06-08 10:14 PM |
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I know can you imagine |
tammywammy |
Apr-06-08 09:55 PM |
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This is really scandalous. |
Kristi1696 |
Apr-06-08 09:52 PM |
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Problem is Hillary looks sloppy. She doesn't fact check well |
dkf |
Apr-06-08 09:55 PM |
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wouldn't Hillary's solution have been |
darboy |
Apr-06-08 10:06 PM |
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Yes -- and garnish her pay |
Yael |
Apr-06-08 10:14 PM |
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“We implore the Clinton campaign to immediately desist from repeating this story.” |
zulchzulu |
Apr-06-08 10:11 PM |
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The Author of this Wrote for the Village Voice and is a good reporter |
Ichingcarpenter |
Apr-06-08 11:08 PM |
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I broke the story of this on DU first |
Ichingcarpenter |
Apr-06-08 11:10 PM |
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Thanks for doing the work too :) |
SunsetDreams |
Apr-06-08 11:15 PM |
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Thanks Yael asked me if I wanted to post it |
Ichingcarpenter |
Apr-06-08 11:22 PM |
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Heya Iching! |
Yael |
Apr-07-08 08:04 AM |
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K & R |
Scurrilous |
Apr-06-08 11:24 PM |
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This is what happens when you spread rumors and gossip! |
TexanDem |
Apr-06-08 11:29 PM |
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Exactly - rumor/gossip |
fifthoffive |
Apr-07-08 09:16 AM |
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That's why hearsay is inadmissible in court of law - and HRC was taught that at Yale Law |
Divernan |
Apr-07-08 11:06 AM |
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My deepest sympathy to the family |
pompano |
Apr-06-08 11:38 PM |
#85 |
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my friend and his wife went through the same thing |
madrchsod |
Apr-07-08 12:36 AM |
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I have to wonder if there isn't a backstory here |
ekwhite |
Apr-07-08 12:33 AM |
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The hospital is changing its story. My guess it is being investigated now. |
rodeodance |
Apr-07-08 12:43 AM |
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You must have guessed on Math tests too |
Ichingcarpenter |
Apr-07-08 12:46 AM |
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you are making ASSumptions and look foolish when you do that. |
rodeodance |
Apr-07-08 01:00 AM |
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Deleted message |
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Apr-07-08 01:49 AM |
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I don't blame Hillary for this. Maybe her campaign staff should have verified it. |
writes3000 |
Apr-07-08 02:01 AM |
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So her Staff is in-charge of Hillary taking a personal story and making it real? |
Ichingcarpenter |
Apr-07-08 03:11 AM |
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"Made her look like she was a welfare bum" |
goodgd_yall |
Apr-07-08 11:59 AM |
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I don't understand why they didn't just contact the family 1st... |
CitizenLeft |
Apr-07-08 12:47 PM |
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Clinton camp... "hadn't been able verify all the details" |
krkaufman |
Apr-07-08 05:03 PM |
#134 |
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This is an attack against health care reform, not just Clinton |
OzarkDem |
Apr-07-08 07:36 PM |
#140 |
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Thank you! |
lastliberalintexas |
Apr-07-08 10:32 PM |
#145 |
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I'm sure the Clinton camp didn't mean any harm. But the story should have been vetted better |
LittleClarkie |
Apr-07-08 10:06 PM |
#142 |
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***ALL OF YOU WHO JUMPED ON LIKE SHEEP AND SMEARED HILLARY ARE SHAMEFUL: |
rodeodance |
Apr-07-08 10:41 PM |
#146 |
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They also oppose health care reform |
OzarkDem |
Apr-08-08 08:03 AM |
#148 |
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You never have any links for your outrageous statements, DO YOU? |
JayFredMuggs |
Apr-08-08 11:57 AM |
#152 |
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